This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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See: http://www.gigadroid.com/androidtalk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21
verusevo said:
This may sound completely stupid, but how do you play video on your xoom? I mean there isn't even a dedicated video app. How the hell do you release a tablet and expect it to compete with the I pad without a native video player or support for most video formats? I just transferred a couple of avi files that don't show up anywhere because there's no app to play them.
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Theres an icon on your homescreen that says gallery. It plays movies as long as they are supported format. Try rockplayer universal it will play avis
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tencent.research.drop&feature=search_result
QQplayer works for me too. Multichannel too. i havent tried mkv files yet
edit: it does play MKV files and with subtitles
Great just what I was afraid of. I have almost a 1TB of movies/videos/TV shows. So my only options are to convert them all or use a non tablet android app to play unsupported files. Thanks for the info though guys.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tencent.research.drop&feature=search_result
QQplayer works for me too. Multichannel too. i havent tried mkv files yet
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mkv high profile will not work on Xoom with any current player and I tried them all.
Ya i just tried a couple of files i had already converted for my moms ipad. a couple were DVDrips and those played pretty much fine using rocklayer. But one was a converted 1080p music video. The music video played fairly well but there was a noticeable difference in the frame rate from the standard def videos.it wasnt at all choppy but it wasnt as fluid as i would have liked. If this is what im going to have to expect from HD video then im definitely not sold on this tab.
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Ya i just tried a couple of files i had already converted for my moms ipad. a couple were DVDrips and those played pretty much fine using rocklayer. But one was a converted 1080p music video. The music video played fairly well but there was a noticeable difference in the frame rate from the standard def videos.it wasnt at all choppy but it wasnt as fluid as i would have liked. If this is what im going to have to expect from HD video then im definitely not sold on this tab.
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It is certainly not what i expected. Hopefully it can be fixed with an update or app.
i downloaded dvd catalyst 4 online it was 9.99 (normally $20) and has a preset for motorola xoom
just load any dvd into your computer click go and when its done it will have you connect the xoom and transfer it
then click on the gallery app and there it is. the quality is great too
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/63258/kw/video/p/7901,7906
You can use Handbrake, a free video encoding program. I found that redoing h.264 high profile to h.264 main profile(see the link) and dropping motion estimation method to diamond, Subpixel ME & Mode Decision to 0, and avg bitrate to 4000 kbps makes for a lower encode time(20ish minutes for 1 hour on my i7 920 win 7 64bit). Excellent quality too vs original.
I'm attempting to convert a 720p copy of inception using handbrake right now. (6 hrs estimated time) what a pain in the ass. I set it to the APPLE preset. Which I'm hoping/assuming is what one would use for the ipad. Ill let you guys know how it turns out. If it does work won't be so bad as I can just set a bunch of files to convert in queue while i sleep.
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I'm attempting to convert a 720p copy of inception using handbrake right now. (6 hrs estimated time) what a pain in the ass. I set it to the APPLE preset. Which I'm hoping/assuming is what one would use for the ipad. Ill let you guys know how it turns out. If it does work won't be so bad as I can just set a bunch of files to convert in queue while i sleep.
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Iceytea posted a handbrake preset for Xoom. I am trying it now and it is going much faster. 2 hour 720p movie took me 1 hour estimated with Apple universal preset and with this one 45 minutes. Can't comment on quality yet as it is still converting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11695846&postcount=50
someone on here said that mkv works on RockPlayer on the Xoom
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someone on here said that mkv works on RockPlayer on the Xoom
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mkv works with stock player as well just have to convert it to baseline. High profile mkv works with nothing on the Xoom. I tried them all.
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Great just what I was afraid of. I have almost a 1TB of movies/videos/TV shows. So my only options are to convert them all or use a non tablet android app to play unsupported files. Thanks for the info though guys.
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Dude, the SDK was just released this week. There will be a tablet optimized app within a month or so... your video files are not wasted.
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ok, so is it true we will never get to be able to play 1080p video because of our cpu ?
You can play 1080p videos, they just have to be encoded exactly how nvidia wants them to be encoded for them to play. 1080p baseline profile should play fine. If you are asking if you are simply going to be able to download a file and transfer it to the xoom and have it play, then that is probably not going to happen as most if not all hd video uses high profile h.264 encoding. Never say never though.
I love everything about the tablet. I sold my I pad for it! Ill look into different decoding methods but dang this is sad... I haven't seen a sucessfl solution to play correctly. I starting to think there is no native movie app because they knew it sucked. Ill give them until march 2nd.
Can your iPad play high profile H.264? Just curious ... I have never owned one.
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I love everything about the tablet. I sold my I pad for it! Ill look into different decoding methods but dang this is sad... I haven't seen a sucessfl solution to play correctly. I starting to think there is no native movie app because they knew it sucked. Ill give them until march 2nd.
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my I pad will play "1080p" video from youtube downloaded and my xoom will not. They are .Mp4 files.
Try if you can play high profile encoded video.
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my I pad will play "1080p" video from youtube downloaded and my xoom will not. They are .Mp4 files.
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Just thought I would throw out that there is a huge difference in performance and stability on the Xoom when using Rockplayer Universal from the Rockplayer website versus Rockplayer Lite in the Market. Many(not all) of my playback issues have been solved. Hope this helps some people.
Link-
http://www.rockplayer.com/index_en.html
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What playback issues were you having that were resolved? Are you playing avi's or mkv files?? Tried h.264 high profile encoded videos in either 720p or 1080p?
Unfortunately no, it does not resolve the mkv issues. But the overall playback quality is much improved for me. Xvid files are playing much smoother. There is much less tiling and pixelation and improved audio quality.
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I have problems with Rockplayer freezing my Xoom when I play AVIs and change the scaling. However, if I leave it alone, it does play files that the stock video player doesn't.
I just tried playing an AVI and it seems to be playing just fine
Everyone is complaining about the high profile HD. It is sad something this powerful has a crazy limit or flaw but, In reality if you wanted to watch those are you really going to put that many movies on a micro SD card? Most of my TV shows and movies are avi. 10 hours of playback I want more to watch.
What I would have liked is a better way to stream from my nas. Sucks to have to copy over to watch something.
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Everyone is complaining about the high profile HD. It is sad something this powerful has a crazy limit or flaw but, In reality if you wanted to watch those are you really going to put that many movies on a micro SD card? Most of my TV shows and movies are avi. 10 hours of playback I want more to watch.
What I would have liked is a better way to stream from my nas. Sucks to have to copy over to watch something.
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In reality yes. I want to copy what I have available quickly to the SD card and walk out the door. With the HD high profile issue, I have to convert everything I want to watch on the Zoom before I can walk out the door. Just converted a 2 hour 720p MKV movie using Handbrake and it took one hour to complete. But it does look very nice and works properly.
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
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In reality yes. I want to copy what I have available quickly to the SD card and walk out the door. With the HD high profile issue, I have to convert everything I want to watch on the Zoom before I can walk out the door. Just converted a 2 hour 720p MKV movie using Handbrake and it took one hour to complete. But it does look very nice and works properly.
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Everyone is complaining about the high profile HD. It is sad something this powerful has a crazy limit or flaw but, In reality if you wanted to watch those are you really going to put that many movies on a micro SD card? Most of my TV shows and movies are avi. 10 hours of playback I want more to watch.
What I would have liked is a better way to stream from my nas. Sucks to have to copy over to watch something.
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Average 720P movie in high profile h.264 is under 5 GB. Xoom has 30gb free space. Also, don't forget tv shows in 720P which are around a GB for 42 minutes.
And don't forget that as soon as the Xoom is given CIFS support, it will be able, or should be able rather, to stream movies and whatever else off your network.
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Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
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Uh, the Galaxy Tab running Froyo cranks out high profile like a boss. My Epic4g cranks out high profile like a boss.
gogol said:
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
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My Galaxy S phone plays them flawlessly. I guess my expectations were too high. I thought a dual core processor would be capable.
BS...
gogol said:
Is there any tablet out there that you can just throw any high profile HD video and it will play flawlessly?
Let me check, one of the best tablet right now is iPad.
No, it cannot play high profile video:
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/87921/ipad-as-video-device-not-so-much/
The iPad can only play back video files in .mp4, .mpv, and .mov file formats with H.264 video at Main Profile level 3.1 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps/48kHz. In other words, the iPad basically plays back video in the iTunes format and really nothing else.
So, I would not complaint much probably.
I know, there are some single core phones that can play high profile video.
But probably, Tegra 2 offers something else which those single core could not, for example: good battery life? Or ...?
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My iPad looks amazingly smooth on high profile x264 files encoded by Handbrake. The XOOM chokes so badly on these files it looks like a bad slideshow. YOU ARE WRONG.
So I am using the rom in my Sig and since using Android I have been unable to play my higher quality movies. My latest example is Inception, I burned it from my DVD at 2000kbs, 29.47 fps, 128kps audio & 480x800 res. File size is roughly 2.28gb (mainly because of the length of the movie, a 90 min movie averaged about 1.1gb)
Now that may seem crazy but movies burned this way played just fine when using WP7 (never got around to switching back to WinMo to test it but I would imagine it would work), I played inception for example before switching to Android and now when using several different media players I get a "this video can not be played" error message. Nothing about the file has changed at all
Does anyone have any suggestions? Does Android have a problem with movies over a certain file size? It's encoded as h.264 mp4 using iSkysoft media burner (which is awesome btw, well worth the money)
Thanks for anyone that can help as I don't want to switch back to WP7 just to view my movies (at least until Mango is released )
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So I am using the rom in my Sig and since using Android I have been unable to play my higher quality movies. My latest example is Inception, I burned it from my DVD at 2000kbs, 29.47 fps, 128kps audio & 480x800 res. File size is roughly 2.28gb (mainly because of the length of the movie, a 90 min movie averaged about 1.1gb)
Now that may seem crazy but movies burned this way played just fine when using WP7 (never got around to switching back to WinMo to test it but I would imagine it would work), I played inception for example before switching to Android and now when using several different media players I get a "this video can not be played" error message. Nothing about the file has changed at all
Does anyone have any suggestions? Does Android have a problem with movies over a certain file size? It's encoded as h.264 mp4 using iSkysoft media burner (which is awesome btw, well worth the money)
Thanks for anyone that can help as I don't want to switch back to WP7 just to view my movies (at least until Mango is released )
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download qqplayer in the market works perfect for me to watch any format videos even vob
which players have you tested?
Yup! Download QQPlayer from the market. Also make sure you overclock. I've found that overclocking results in smoother video...
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download qqplayer in the market works perfect for me to watch any format videos even vob
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which players have you tested?
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VPlayer and RockPlayer also worck great
i know there is a converter and some people having problems with mkv and i know about h.264 and im starting use my atrix as multimedia i watch some movies in "dvdrip" i doubt since seems quality it lower, i try with an anime dvdrip .mp4 and i cant watch so im wondering wich software i can use to convert in the desire format without lose quality. i have any dvd converter.
so not sure how to convert and what settings. this start annoy me since my n1 play several formats. sorry if this was covered but i didnt find the right solution.
thanks a lot
I would appreciate an answer to this as well.
I have found that the Affix will play most of the .avi movies that I download. I haven't had any luck with the few mp4 or mvk files I've tried.
If anyone knows how to convert any format to something the Atrix can play, please let us know..
Thanks!!
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Instead of converting just install a player that can decode all of these files. There are a couple of good ones out there. I've read good things about Meridian and VPlayer.
I try rock player no luck ,i download from youtube the google io in hd 60 fps 1280x720 and .mp4 and surprise I can't play.
My one year old nexus one do fine stupid motorola y try convert with any dvd and was awful the video was so fast not sync with sound,i guess because 60 fps and max van convert its 30 fps any more tips? Thanks
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zen kun said:
i know there is a converter and some people having problems with mkv and i know about h.264 and im starting use my atrix as multimedia i watch some movies in "dvdrip" i doubt since seems quality it lower, i try with an anime dvdrip .mp4 and i cant watch so im wondering wich software i can use to convert in the desire format without lose quality. i have any dvd converter.
so not sure how to convert and what settings. this start annoy me since my n1 play several formats. sorry if this was covered but i didnt find the right solution.
thanks a lot
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Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
jpinoy said:
Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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thanks i will give a shoot, this reduces the HQ videos???
zen kun said:
thanks i will give a shoot, this reduces the HQ videos???
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None that I've seen. Plus, even with a smaller bitrate, the resolution and density of the qHD on the Atrix makes up for it... movies look great
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None that I've seen. Plus, even with a smaller bitrate, the resolution and density of the qHD on the Atrix makes up for it... movies look great
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thanks, im pretending use multimedia mode in my TV so will be more to watch on my 42" tv than atrix xD i will try it thanks
The issue is not codecs, it's Tegra 2 cannot handle high profile HD decoding (at least at the moment)
If you stick to Main profile and no B-frames you will likely be ok. Which also means you are likely having to re-encode your video.
More info here
Handbrake preset here
qqplayer works
If you add the video with motorola media link (think that's what its called) it will convert it to play on your phone.
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I'm actually hoping VLC comes out soon for Android... would be sweet..
http://gigaom.com/video/vlc-for-android-demo-beta/
zen kun said:
I try rock player no luck ,i download from youtube the google io in hd 60 fps 1280x720 and .mp4 and surprise I can't play.
My one year old nexus one do fine stupid motorola y try convert with any dvd and was awful the video was so fast not sync with sound,i guess because 60 fps and max van convert its 30 fps any more tips? Thanks
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That Sucks so much Fail in the Atrix reason mines in the Box my G2X runs Dvix 1080p out the Box like a champ its a shame the Atrix can't
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That Sucks so much Fail in the Atrix reason mines in the Box my G2X runs Dvix 1080p out the Box like a champ its a shame the Atrix can't
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Yeah but do u have a Biometrics finger sensor ? Lol
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Yeah but do u have a Biometrics finger sensor ? Lol
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LOL xD
i try handbrake not sure how to make 1280*720 playable on atrix, i want my atrix play because i can play in multimedia dock si i can watch movies in HD on my tv its useless have a multimedia app if you cant use =X and i cant use vlplayer or something in multimedia mode =X so any suggestion about settings to hanbrake and keep 720 quality??
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Use Handbrake and follow this guide for converting.. I've used it to convert anime as well.. works great for me...
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html
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Thanks for the link. Ill take a look at it and try to convert my stuff.
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Thanks for the links as well!
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If you just want to play files on your phone, try Moboplayer. I use it to watch XVIDs and it works perfectly. It is also free so worth a try.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.clov4r.android.nil&feature=search_result
Taken from their AM page:
Enjoy Your Video. The best video player on Android! Watch any of your videos on a phone without conversion, anytime and anywhere. We feature the best playback experience and quality.
Our video player supports:
All video formats (need to choose "software decoding" mode in most cases)
Popular subtitle formats such as SRT, ASS, and SAA
Subtitles built in MKV, MPV, MOV, and others
Multi-audio streams and multi-subtitles
Playlists and continuous play on same type files
Videos streamed through HTTP, RTSP protocols
Media libraries and sort videos by type
Thumbnail displays of videos
strange dude, my atrix plays all formats, i think that have one, that only comes audio, but this video was 1080p(HD) and i dont made even 1 update in my atrix
it's not that simple.
just because you can play one individual 720p h.264 file doesn't mean you can play them all. there are different profiles / bit rates etc.
For h.264 Tegra 2 supports main profile but not high profile. Xoom owners have done all kinds of tests on this. To date no video player has been able to overcome this.
Who is actually Gunna download movies that take about 6 gigs of space and the download time is forever, is there another way to watch 1080p besides small youtube clips. The 1080p really looks great!
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Well first of all, you're wasting your time on 1080p. You want 720p. Second of all, it doesn't take too long to copy files over and you can even split them up using something like virtualdub.
Ok thanks thought it supported 1080p
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Ok thanks thought it supported 1080p
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The screen resolution is only 1280x720p. So 720p video will look the best on it.
Yes downloading some 720p movies right now.!
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Checkout BubbleUPnP - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1118891 - includes a local renderer & acts as a control point for DLNA/UPnP
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Who is actually Gunna download movies that take about 6 gigs of space and the download time is forever, is there another way to watch 1080p besides small youtube clips. The 1080p really looks great!
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1080p MKV movies are a bout 1GB (2hrs long)
720 are 500Mb
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1080p MKV movies are a bout 1GB (2hrs long)
720 are 500Mb
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That is still quite compressed.... Regular 1080p mkv's are anywhere from 10gb to nearly 50gb.
A 6gb 1080p rip is still probably very good quality.
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1080p MKV movies are a bout 1GB (2hrs long)
720 are 500Mb
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Yeah right.. A 45 minute 720p TV show is just over 1GB, a 720p bluray movie comes out to about 2 - 4GB, 1080p is double that.
Even DVD rips of full length movies are bigger than 500mb if you want quality.
I'm not sure if this is on topics, but I download 720p anime mkv(most common format) and it's playback is very choppy on galaxy tab, and I've tried stock video player, mvideoplayer, and mobo player. I have to spent time re encode those files with handbrake or ripbot to make it plays properly. but the exact same file play fine on my galaxy s phone without any conversion.
anyone know what's the problem?and ideas how I can fix it? the goal is to just copy my downloaded anime to galaxy tab and play it smoothly, not spending extra time to re-encode it again.
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I'm not sure if this is on topics, but I download 720p anime mkv(most common format) and it's playback is very choppy on galaxy tab, and I've tried stock video player, mvideoplayer, and mobo player. I have to spent time re encode those files with handbrake or ripbot to make it plays properly. but the exact same file play fine on my galaxy s phone without any conversion.
anyone know what's the problem?and ideas how I can fix it? the goal is to just copy my downloaded anime to galaxy tab and play it smoothly, not spending extra time to re-encode it again.
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Your best option is to convert it. Freemake is my favorite. It even lets you effortlessly hardcode those subs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140403
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Your best option is to convert it. Freemake is my favorite. It even lets you effortlessly hardcode those subs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140403
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yeah, I spent some time reading several topics and the consensus seems that this is Tegra 2 hardware problem? so there's no hope for new firmware update to suddenly make it playable smoothly without converting?