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I have a Motorola Milestone and am intersted in an HD2. A few people around my area are selling them that run android but I want to know if android is running smoothly and is stable on this device. Is it ok for everyday use without messing around with it very much?
It would be to replace my milestone, which is an android device, so I'm wondering if the HD2 runs as smoothly as an actual android device
Thanks!
With NAND recently released for the HD2, I'd say very stable.
If I were you though, I'd rather buy a stock HD2 rather than an "android ready" HD2 just because of personal preference of builds. Buy a HD2, read the forums and look for a build that'll suit you. For me, iamgpc's gingerbread rom is good enough for me and I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
bazinga said:
I'm waiting for a official release of WP7
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WP& Rom is ALREADY offically released. Its simply that it hasnt been directly released on XDA for various reasons.
Just because it hasnt been posted by cotulla doesnt mean it hasnt "officially" been released.
Wond3r said:
Well I could still just search around and do a wipe and flash of a build that I like right? (even if its android loaded)
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Android works Great on the HD2 If you can get one cheep (under $200) get it and yes you can change android any time + if the HD2 already has Android it most likely has already had HSPL 2.08 and the Radio updated so thats less for you to have to learn how to do
Hi :-D
I have a motorola milestone (and develop for it ) and now a brand new HD2, and must say, WM lasted for about 35 seconds LOL
Now I have NAND desreHD build, and (without overclock but with memory optimization and tweaks) is butterly smooth!
Like and maybe more than Milestone...
With a senseless rom is far superior to a milestone (stockspeed) and like same smoothnes with [email protected] with MUCH more memory
As the others said, it is very stable now with NAND, and apparently now you can dual boot WP7 and Android off you SD cards. There are just plain SO MANY OPTIONS on this phone, so you will make a good move going. Plus you can hop back and forth to sense/non-sense with relative ease, especially with clockwork...
I bought my HD2 when launched. I now have NAND Android on it. I'm happy with it... BUT
If you want to buy and HD2 to put Android... why don't you buy a Desire HD instead? I was not able to compare both of them but I imagine that if hardware and OS are developped to go together it has to be better (faster boot, all working, stability) and after a while you will find custom Android ROM for it (maybe yet available).
If I have to buy something today, between HD2, HD7 and DHD... I will go for DHD. The hardware seems the best (8Mp camera, newer proc, more NAND).
Of course, all this depend at what price you'll find each device.
personally i will choose the HD2 because you can run android on it..HD2..HD7..evo there are the same phones..just one has a 8MP camera and a front camera but that is about it..I used to own a touch pro 2 unlocked version and I barely used the front camera..it was useless for me. So HD2 FTW.
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DHD has a front camera? I didn't even know this...
I just read that the DHD boot in 2sec; Is this real? If it is it could be very nice for me, I would like to know also if the A-GPS is working fine (I'm mean that data is written in the chip itself same as WM6 does on HD2).
But anyway, all this is subjective. I had a HD2 and I'm very happy with it. It's a really good device.
And second anyway... all this was not the initial subject... sorry for thread pollution
Yes, Android is stable on HD2 and it can be the main OS.
Hi guys,
I appreciate most of the things I'm going to ask have some explanation somewhere already on the forum, but I'm not entirely confident I know my way around well enough to get to where i want with my HD2.
So first off, I have a UK HD2, with HSPL2 and a couple month old WM energy rom flashed. I am running Android Froyo from my SD card, and i find myself using it most of the time. Because of this it seems sensible to get Android on my NAND and stop using WM. However I'm having some problems with my phone and I'm not sure if some may be caused by android.
Firstly the battery is lasting less than a day on a full charge without using any power craving features like wifi, gps or even a constant data connection. My phone is less than a year old, so hopefully HTC will issue me with a replacement [PENDING].
Secondly, when I do want to use the data connection I find I rarely get one where I normally would on WM.
Finally, I regularly get process terminated messages while running android from boot until the inevitable low-battery shutdown. (fairly sure this is purely android)
So, bearing this in mind, I would like to have a newer (preferably Gingerbread) build of android running from my NAND, presumably requiring MAGLDR. Would this APN settings thing, and 'rooting' I've read about recently help with these problems? Also I can't find anything about gingerbread with sense and assume this is because there have been no HTC gingerbread devices yet; is this the case? If so would you recommend Froyo with sense or gingerbread without? (personally I'm not keen on the curved sense home menu at the bottom, but i like the other features of sense)
A final thing to further complicate the situation is that I'd REALLY like to have a play with WP7, and last i read it had been ported and was running without LIVE services (making it practically useless), but then not too long ago a hack to make it pretend to be a HD7 was made allowing this. Is this a proper solution which makes the whole phone like a WP7 device (with the few performance niggles here and there) or is it like a demo or a shell of a phone which isn't really usable? The 'average user' review on the front page was posted before this LIVE hack, so i'm not sure it takes it into account.
So in summary, if I could get some guidance with the best choices in having Android NAND (and possibly WP7 on dual boot) covering what preparation and fixes I will need to apply it would be much appreciated. Possibly a list of tutorials I should follow in order, or even something more customised to my situation. Alternatively, if there is a guide covering all this I haven't found, that would be great!
As far as getting NAND working correctly check out this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
And dual booting wp7 and android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
However if you dual boot wp7 would be the main os and you'll still be booting android from sd and as far as fixes and tweaks most of the time it depends which build your using I find that most of the time what works doesn't always work for others
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Hi guys,
I appreciate most of the things I'm going to ask have some explanation somewhere already on the forum, but I'm not entirely confident I know my way around well enough to get to where i want with my HD2.
So first off, I have a UK HD2, with HSPL2 and a couple month old WM energy rom flashed. I am running Android Froyo from my SD card, and i find myself using it most of the time. Because of this it seems sensible to get Android on my NAND and stop using WM. However I'm having some problems with my phone and I'm not sure if some may be caused by android.
Firstly the battery is lasting less than a day on a full charge without using any power craving features like wifi, gps or even a constant data connection. My phone is less than a year old, so hopefully HTC will issue me with a replacement [PENDING].
Secondly, when I do want to use the data connection I find I rarely get one where I normally would on WM.
Finally, I regularly get process terminated messages while running android from boot until the inevitable low-battery shutdown. (fairly sure this is purely android)
So, bearing this in mind, I would like to have a newer (preferably Gingerbread) build of android running from my NAND, presumably requiring MAGLDR. Would this APN settings thing, and 'rooting' I've read about recently help with these problems? Also I can't find anything about gingerbread with sense and assume this is because there have been no HTC gingerbread devices yet; is this the case? If so would you recommend Froyo with sense or gingerbread without? (personally I'm not keen on the curved sense home menu at the bottom, but i like the other features of sense)
A final thing to further complicate the situation is that I'd REALLY like to have a play with WP7, and last i read it had been ported and was running without LIVE services (making it practically useless), but then not too long ago a hack to make it pretend to be a HD7 was made allowing this. Is this a proper solution which makes the whole phone like a WP7 device (with the few performance niggles here and there) or is it like a demo or a shell of a phone which isn't really usable? The 'average user' review on the front page was posted before this LIVE hack, so i'm not sure it takes it into account.
So in summary, if I could get some guidance with the best choices in having Android NAND (and possibly WP7 on dual boot) covering what preparation and fixes I will need to apply it would be much appreciated. Possibly a list of tutorials I should follow in order, or even something more customised to my situation. Alternatively, if there is a guide covering all this I haven't found, that would be great!
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The battery issue is definitely an Android issue and I would recommend using a Froyo based Android build, which also has less problems with data connections. Unfortunately to say is that you might expect some problems using either Android or WP7 on the HD2, because it's still a WnMO device, although it can handle other OS's as well.
regards, Kuzibri
@SpiderVenom
Thanks for the links
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if you dual boot wp7 would be the main os and you'll still be booting android from sd
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I got the impression this may be the case, which emphasizes my question, is Windows Phone 7 on HD2 good enough to be usable, is it worth it?
@Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
The battery issue is definitely an Android issue and I would recommend using a Froyo based Android build, which also has less problems with data connections.
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Well I'm using Froyo now, and I have all these problems, and I think the battery problem currently exists on both WM and android, so I'm relatively convinced it's the battery.
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@SpiderVenom
Thanks for the links
I got the impression this may be the case, which emphasizes my question, is Windows Phone 7 on HD2 good enough to be usable, is it worth it?
@Kuzibri
Well I'm using Froyo now, and I have all these problems, and I think the battery problem currently exists on both WM and android, so I'm relatively convinced it's the battery.
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Well, I'm not really convinced that it's your battery. Check your SD Card and my advice would be: shut down device - remove SD Card - insert in to PC - backup you data to PC - do a slow format with PC - after formatting with PC, reinsert SD Card in device and power up - format SD Card with the device's SD formatting tool (windows - tools - SD Formatting tool). Power off device, remove SD Card and insert into PC and restore your data. Reinsert after that your SD Card in to device and power up again and see what your battery does. Should be much better.
regards, Kuzibri
OK, thanks, I will try it and get back to you, but this isn't the main point of my question, and I don't want the subject veering off on a tangent
Personally I don't think wp7 is worth it right now. The devs are doing great work on it but as of right now as a main OS I think because of the limitations and all the hoops and hurdles you have to go through for it. I'm sticking with NAND personally.
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OK, thanks, I will try it and get back to you, but this isn't the main point of my question, and I don't want the subject veering off on a tangent
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you're right about that, but this can solve most of your battery problems.
Regarding WP7 on HD2: see reaction of SpiderVenom
Regarding Android on the HD2: well the NAND version is much better than the SD card one, but it's and will be a personal choice.
i personaly stick to WinMo 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM on it.
regards, Kuzibri
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you're right about that, but this can solve most of your battery problems.
Regarding WP7 on HD2: see reaction of SpiderVenom
Regarding Android on the HD2: well the NAND version is much better than the SD card one, but it's and will be a personal choice.
i personaly stick to WinMo 6.5.5 with Artemis ROM on it.
regards, Kuzibri
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wp7 on hd2 is as useful as it is on any native wp7 device...actually, even better than any native device, because you can dual boot with a good android build off sd card...i would suggest you first try the sd card gingerbread ram version from mdj and superram froyo from darkstone..to checkout the differences. i personally use mdj desire hd 4.6 on sd card (it cannot be replaced by any non-sense build..tried them all, but had to come back to it)and wp7 on nand...
as for the battery, try the sd card format as described above.
also..try this....confirmed to work...but no one knows why it works.. charge your phone for 8 hrs (even though it says 100%)...then switch off phone...charge for 1hr..then switch on and charge for 1hr..........you will see a gross difference in battery
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Personally I don't think wp7 is worth it right now. The devs are doing great work on it but as of right now as a main OS I think because of the limitations and all the hoops and hurdles you have to go through for it. I'm sticking with NAND personally.
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I agree completely with SpiderVenom.
Right now, you do have some hoop jumping to go through in order to get wp7 working correctly.
I'm also using MDJ's NAND Gingerbread install with zero issues and excellent battery life. It's also nice that all of the purchased android apps are usable on both of my android devices. (I have an Archos 5IT.)
Thanks for all your comments, I'm getting the impression (from SpideVenom and apallohadas) that getting WP7 going is troublesome, I would be interested to hear from people who have already jumped the necessary hoops (pakure?) to see if they think it's worth the effort. I don't mind jumping hoops as long as I only have to do it once (when I install).
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try the sd card gingerbread ram version from MDJ and superram froyo from darkstone
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I assume these are 'RAM' builds, and I guess they're somehow better than plain SD versions? Still not sure about the whole Gingerbread w/o Sense vs Froyo with Sense situation. Do others agree with these suggestions?
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also..try this....
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Thanks, I'll try that too
Nintynuts said:
Thanks for all your comments, I'm getting the impression (from SpideVenom and apallohadas) that getting WP7 going is troublesome, I would be interested to hear from people who have already jumped the necessary hoops (pakure?) to see if they think it's worth the effort. I don't mind jumping hoops as long as I only have to do it once (when I install).
I assume these are 'RAM' builds, and I guess they're somehow better than plain SD versions? Still not sure about the whole Gingerbread w/o Sense vs Froyo with Sense situation. Do others agree with these suggestions?
Thanks, I'll try that too
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the ram versions are faster even than nand android
well, you wont get to know, unless you try wp7 for yourself..anyway, you can always fall back to wm6.5/android..its all one flash away.
I have been trying a NAND gingerbread build and it's running a lot better than froyo was off my SD, and the battery drain is reduced too.
However I'm finding android without sense intolerable. So I think I need to switch back to a froyo build (unless anyone knows of a Gingerbread build with sense).
I was wondering what's the best way of switching; Is there any way of keeping applications in tact? If not, is it possible to backup my existing NAND contents to SD card so I can flash it back if need be?
Also, is Android RAM ACTUALLY better/faster than NAND, and would it be worth having a WP7 NAND and Android from SD on RAM?
Finally, can anyone recommend a Froyo Sense RAM build? I find it very difficult to filter through the forum threads picking out the one that's right for me. I found a site which gives VERY brief overviews of the current builds, but it doesn't cover stuff like what's not working etc and not all the associated forum threads do.
isnt it a matter of personal choice...what may suit me the best may not be good for others...so its just keep trying till u figure which one is the best for yourself
My first HD2 got all messed up and overheated way too much and it was basically useless. Before it started overheating I installed HSPL 3.0 and went crazy on ROMs. Then Android came along and basically the same thing happened again.
I loved Android way more than any ROM I ever installed, so my question is, should I install a custom ROM when I receive my new HD2, or is it best recommended to do that? If so, why?
I'm only going to use NAND Android, but still, I just want to get some opinions. Also, on my 1st HD2 I never formatted my SD card, is that something crucial or no? Because my phone still ran the ROMs and still ran Android.
Random: Should I sell this new HD2 and get a better phone that comes with Android? I'm on T-Mobile, and I've been eying the Nexus One but I'm sure that if I buy it I'll greatly regret it cause something better will come out.
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My first HD2 got all messed up and overheated way too much and it was basically useless. Before it started overheating I installed HSPL 3.0 and went crazy on ROMs. Then Android came along and basically the same thing happened again.
I loved Android way more than any ROM I ever installed, so my question is, should I install a custom ROM when I receive my new HD2, or is it best recommended to do that? If so, why?
I'm only going to use NAND Android, but still, I just want to get some opinions. Also, on my 1st HD2 I never formatted my SD card, is that something crucial or no? Because my phone still ran the ROMs and still ran Android.
Random: Should I sell this new HD2 and get a better phone that comes with Android? I'm on T-Mobile, and I've been eying the Nexus One but I'm sure that if I buy it I'll greatly regret it cause something better will come out.
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If you were only planning on running Android I'd say the best thing is what you suggested, try and sell it or maybe trade it for a native Android device.
But at the same time if you want to use multi OS's in the future stick with your HD2
Well IMHO, the HD2 blows the N1 out of the water as far as perfomance is concerned. Seeing as the HD2 is crazy afforadle right now, and you can put WinMo, Android, Ubuntu, WP7 and MeeGo on it, I would definately stick with the HD2.
Awesome, thanks guys
So now I would just like to know should I load a ROM on it for better performance or for whatever other reason, even though I'm planning to only use Android? (Sorry if noob question)
Also, is formatting my SD card crucial?
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Awesome, thanks guys
So now I would just like to know should I load a ROM on it for better performance or for whatever other reason, even though I'm planning to only use Android? (Sorry if noob question)
Also, is formatting my SD card crucial?
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please! help me with these questions
if you run android and sd card, format sd card is very crucial. You have to format it the prefer or right way. I use window mobile to format. If you run with nand, i dont' think format matter.
What dealkk is saying is formatting the sd card with FAT32 is very crucial for running android off of one's sd card. So in NAND, it's not needed to format the sd in FAT32, but it could be useful if you do.
I just got an activation code for my HD2 and am wondering if I should install WP7 on it now, or should I wait for the update to be released in case any blacklisting takes place?
What do you guys think i should do?
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I just got an activation code for my HD2 and am wondering if I should install WP7 on it now, or should I wait for the update to be released in case any blacklisting takes place?
What do you guys think i should do?
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i dont think it will matter much when you activate. when the update is released you are not forced to do it. you should wait for dev to release something and not jump into the MS update.
Activate now. From what I've read on the M$ support pages the update backs everything on your device up prior to it being performed, which leads me to believe it will flash a complete new ROM, so I highly doubt that our HD2s will work until the devs have released a ROM based on the update.
Thanks for the info guys, really good food for thought, think i am going to go ahead with flashing it tomorrow then.
Another question though, is I've only got a 4GB card at the moment (my 16GB one has on Android with an ext4 partition that I want to keep just in case WP7 isn't working good enough for daily use). If i later purchase a 16GB card do I have to re-activate?
I would like to know about the reactivation too cause I was wondering if a hard reset would make me have to reactivate my phone again
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Thanks for the info guys, really good food for thought, think i am going to go ahead with flashing it tomorrow then.
Another question though, is I've only got a 4GB card at the moment (my 16GB one has on Android with an ext4 partition that I want to keep just in case WP7 isn't working good enough for daily use). If i later purchase a 16GB card do I have to re-activate?
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no, you would just install the card, reset the phone and it will partition and format the card for you. however, you will go through the setup process again.
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I would like to know about the reactivation too cause I was wondering if a hard reset would make me have to reactivate my phone again
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i have flashed wp7 over 3 times and used the same activation code. no issues.
I've reactivated three times as well with the same code while trying to find the idea configuration for running WP7 and Android on the sd. I have a 16gb card and both OSs are working well. I use WP7 and the Desire HD 4.6 sd build for Android. WP7 boots very fast and the Desire HD isn't as fast booting but respectable, so I can which between the two as needed.
I prefer Android for games and apps since there are lots more games and apps for the Android. The Android build is also a much more fluid pinch zoom internet browsing experience and has flash support. But for ease of navagation, phone call quality, email viewing, and social media I prefer WP7.
WP7 is my boot up OS and I switch to Android as needed. Since both builds aren't perfect using them together this way I get the best of both builds and a solid user experience.
When I bought my HD2 a few month back it was only because I knew I would be able (thanks to the developers on XDA) to run both WP7 and Android Desire HD. I must admit in happened a tad sooner than I thought it would.
On yeah, if you want to use the MDJ Desire HD 4.6 build along with the MGLDR to run WP7 you will need a modified rootfs.img file. I found one by searching the stickies on this forum. If you can't find it I will attach the one I used.
I’ve currently got a HTC Touch Pro and I’m thinking about maybe buying a HD2 which I can get on eBay for about £170 - £200 and that’s quite a lot of money so I want to be sure before I buy it. What has mainly gotten me interested in this phone is the fact it can run Windows Phone 7 which looks lovely. A few things I’m unsure about is the size and the fact this phone doesn’t have a hardware keyboard, I’ve used a friend’s HD2 before but only for a few minutes. Anybody here upgrade to the HD2 from a phone with a hardware QWERTY keyboard how did you find getting use to the onscreen one, was it better?
Thanks
It can run WP7, but it's a bit of a hack, you basically can't "activate" it to get apps from the marketplace or other xbox live services without calling Microsoft and getting a gullible representative on the line, which are hard to come by because by now they've mostly been briefed on this.
Also, who knows when nodo comes out in March if the old ROMs will still function indefinitely, nodo itself will have to be hacked in order for it to accept sideloading which Microsoft has stated they'd close. Also half the reason why the closed-source WP7 works so well on the HD2 is because it was prototyped on the HD2, the ROMs available now are based on those prototypes, after nodo, that also won't be the case, necessitating the making of drivers for a closed-source OS with no native SDK.
I don't want to sound negative, but my experience with WP7 is that it's not a "daily driver" on the HD2, and unlike Android on the HD2 is very much an unfinished work with an uncertain future due to Microsoft locking up the platform. It is fun to play with though, and I think you'd enjoy the HD2 in general, but if what you want is a WP7 phone, you probably should buy a WP7 phone.
I bought the HD2 for use as a student/scientist to be able to communicate with work effectively through email along with mobile office and all the great features it has. The lack of qwerty keyboard is made up for by the large screen. It gives a touch screen keyboard a lot of real estate to work with. But I just recently decided to install android on it instead of upgrading to WM7. That has made me love this phone. You can keep WM6.5 on the phone as well as install android for all the fun quirkiness you need. It has made this phone perfect for me. This phone is like a mullet: Business in the front (windows), party in the back (android, and by back I mean SD card).
I had a Desire and moved on to the HD2 about a month ago - the larger screen makes using the touch keyboard easier.
A side effect of booting Android off an SD card (as I do) is that a *full* backup of the installation can be made by simply copying the contents of the relevant directories on the SD card. Also, the data.img file (equivalent to the data partition on a phone where the O/S is installed in EEPROM) can be resized (with some care) to a larger size if needed.
Should you buy an HD2?
YES.
Firstly WP7 works properly and is EASY to activate via MS helpline.(1 phone call approx. 2 mins). There is a ton of support for you and any questions or problems you have, right here on this site.
A bit of a hack?... Yes, well this is XDA and I'm pretty sure you know that and are comfortable with it already.
WP7 on the HD2 works better (faster) than on the HD7!!!!
Secondly if you don't like WP7 as an everyday OS (are you ill?) then you can have WM6.5, Android, Ubuntu, Meego and even Win 95/98 or I think I read somewhere XP????
Why would you even ask if you should buy one?
£200 is cheap (£400+ rrp) compared to anything else on the market especially when you look at the specs and performance of those devices compared with the HD2.
I've had to upgrade my SD Card for £30, but I didn't have to fork out £300 for HD7, and I was going to upgrade anyway to fit more music on.
As for the soft keyboard...what can I say? It's bigger than the hard keys you've got at the minute and the Touch Screen works great.
The only question you should be asking is;
Why hasn't everyone got an HD2?
No matter what you prefer as an OS, the HD2 has got you covered thanks to the hard work of some great people on XDA, Cotulla and Bepe @ DFT and lots of others, too many to name here.
Essentially the HD2 will do what you want it to do when you want it to do it. And if what you want to do is sell it, for a new iPhone or HD7 (seriously, you may want to book some time with your GP), then plenty of people on here will want to buy it.
BUY... BUY... BUY....
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PloniAlmoni said:
It can run WP7, but it's a bit of a hack, you basically can't "activate" it to get apps from the marketplace or other xbox live services without calling Microsoft and getting a gullible representative on the line, which are hard to come by because by now they've mostly been briefed on this.
Also, who knows when nodo comes out in March if the old ROMs will still function indefinitely, nodo itself will have to be hacked in order for it to accept sideloading which Microsoft has stated they'd close. Also half the reason why the closed-source WP7 works so well on the HD2 is because it was prototyped on the HD2, the ROMs available now are based on those prototypes, after nodo, that also won't be the case, necessitating the making of drivers for a closed-source OS with no native SDK.
I don't want to sound negative, but my experience with WP7 is that it's not a "daily driver" on the HD2, and unlike Android on the HD2 is very much an unfinished work with an uncertain future due to Microsoft locking up the platform. It is fun to play with though, and I think you'd enjoy the HD2 in general, but if what you want is a WP7 phone, you probably should buy a WP7 phone.
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WP7 on HD2 is a hack, yes, but this is the XDA site, and if you're here, you're probably already comfortable with that fact.
WP7 works properly and is EASY to activate via MS helpline.(1 phone call approx. 2 mins). There is a ton of support for you and any questions or problems you have, right here on this site.
HD2 was the test bed for WP7 on HTC devices, and HD7 is a slightly worse re-worked version of the HD2, so any future HD7 updates will be portable to HD2 which, if experience is an indicator, will run them better than HD7.
The Chevron7 unlock guys have been talking with MS about their sideload app, and although MS are going to close the loophole, Windows is Windows...infinitely hackable.
You may not be trying to sound negative, but you're not doing a very good job.
Definitely buy a HD2 and run Android (NAND) and you'll never look back.
Hi! I'd like to buy an hd2 too. My questions (in part you have already answered) are the following: i would buy an used hd2 to run above all android (and maybe occasionally i could try wp7 or the original wm6.5). But worth buying an hd2 for an unofficial rom? and android on hd2 is stable as the official one? has it problems (maybe it freezes...)? thank you very much!!!
jackal992 said:
Hi! I'd like to buy an hd2 too. My questions (in part you have already answered) are the following: i would buy an used hd2 to run above all android (and maybe occasionally i could try wp7 or the original wm6.5). But worth buying an hd2 for an unofficial rom? and android on hd2 is stable as the official one? has it problems (maybe it freezes...)? thank you very much!!!
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Running WM6.5 I stuck with HTC ROMs, but WP7 means Custom is the new Standard. I don't know about Android, there is a seperate forum, I've never used it, too happy with WP7 (WM6.5 is also very good functionally), which works perfectly if you do it properly. See the posts on this forum about SD Cards.
In short, if you've thought about buying an HD2 you've made a mistake. JUST DO IT, you (probably) wont regret it.
I offer no guarantees on your experience when you decide to purchase. My experience has been awesome.
I am not paid by HTC to advertise their product, however if they offered to pay me, I would gladly advertise the HD2.
I have a Touch Pro & bought the HD2 about a month ago. It is a good device. In my opinion Android is not that special & WM7 is not worth the hassle.
I find Energy WM6.5.x build ROMs superb, rock solid with great GUI of sense & CHT.
The only thing better in Android is available games, Android platform itself is far from ground breaking & graphically dull as dull can get.
On screen keyboard options are good with WM although I still prefer a hard keyboard but the HD2 is good becuase of the huge screen & of course the SnapDragon.
Viewing websites is also far easier with the large screen & Opera 10 or 9.7.
You won't go far wrong with a HD2 if you are up to speed on modding WM, W7 & Android will leave you with problems (W7) or dull OS (Android).
Everyone is different but at least with the HD2 you can have many platforms in one device if you so wish.
ok. thanks a lot!! last question: i already tried to change bootloaders and roms in previuos winmo phones, luckily always all was ok. But in the hd2 is enough simple change bootloader/radio? i know that there are always risks but i've seen a lot of threads about "bricked" and "dead"/no more usable hd2. My question then is: if you follow carefully instructions of cookers is enough improbable that you brick your phone?? is this true? sorry for my bad english!
ps: can i trust buying used hd2 that already have android or however unofficial roms? This doesn't mean that these phones are "bricked", is this correct? even better then i may not have to change radio, correct? thank you very much!!
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I only found out about Custom ROMs, flashing and Bootloaders 3 weeks ago, the first time I flashed everything worked. The HD2 is very stable, the ROMs on this site can be very stable.
Read the instructions carefully, make sure you have everything you need and a few hours spare to do the work. If you do this everything will be fine.
The Radio, MAGLDR and HSPL are as easy to install as a stock ROM, once you've read the instructions available.
NOW GO BUY YOUR HD2!!!!
NOW INSTALL WP7!!!
Thank you all for the replies and your be happy to know that I brought a HD2 yesterday on eBay for £177 I can't wait to get my hands on it =-D
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ok. thanks a lot!! last question: i already tried to change bootloaders and roms in previuos winmo phones, luckily always all was ok. But in the hd2 is enough simple change bootloader/radio? i know that there are always risks but i've seen a lot of threads about "bricked" and "dead"/no more usable hd2. My question then is: if you follow carefully instructions of cookers is enough improbable that you brick your phone?? is this true? sorry for my bad english!
ps: can i trust buying used hd2 that already have android or however unofficial roms? This doesn't mean that these phones are "bricked", is this correct? even better then i may not have to change radio, correct? thank you very much!!
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I would prefer to buy a stock device rather than one that could of been subject to a lot of flashing ect.
Also try to buy the revision model identified by having yellow reset button rather than red.
These are reported to have better motherboards & screen assemblies (HTC revised model due to large amount of motherboard & screen fault warranty returns)
If buying used don't buy anything that sounds a bit iffy, HD2 is not a cheap or simple device to fix.