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Stock Quadrant Score with 2.2?

Hello ladies and gents of the Vibrant forum. I'm a G2 user thinking about returning his G2 tomorrow for a Vibrant. What is the Vibrant stock Quadrant score with the OTA 2.2 update? Already tried search.

The OTA was not 2.2, it was an update to 2.1.

rembonjaski said:
The OTA was not 2.2, it was an update to 2.1.
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Oh.
Nevermind then.

Hmmm
There's no 2.2 update yet... sorry

Are you guys serious?! Eugene released a stable 2.2 ROM this morning!
With just a stock 2.2 flash youre looking @ 980 on quad & 14.xx @ 5.9 sec on linpack.
As always though... Benchmarks dont mean jack! From personal experience this phone is awesome! If I stopped flashing it so damn much I'd be able to get 20+ hours on the battery too!

I believe the 'stable' rom you're referring to has broken GPS still.
Also, I think the op thought that the recent update was an official stock 2.2...
Anyway, the quadrant score is around 819 stock but with different mods, a good stable score is around 1600
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disturkis4u said:
I believe the 'stable' rom you're referring to has broken GPS still.
Also, I think the op thought that the recent update was an official stock 2.2...
Anyway, the quadrant score is around 819 stock but with different mods, a good stable score is around 1600
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I think what the OP wanted was a 2.2 vibrant score w/ JIT enabled... eugenes ROM has it.
Stable means usable & will not die or cause nuclear war. Perfect ROM? No... Only working 2.2 ROM working (minus GPS & a few other things not working) on the vibrant, yes.
exactly what does stability & usability have to with a mathematical bench mark test? are you referring to hacks & mods vs. hard code? Stability wise? # wise??

I just got 1903 after using the z4mod (ext2) on JI6:
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All~G1 said:
Are you guys serious?! Eugene released a stable 2.2 ROM this morning!
With just a stock 2.2 flash youre looking @ 980 on quad & 14.xx @ 5.9 sec on linpack.
As always though... Benchmarks dont mean jack! From personal experience this phone is awesome! If I stopped flashing it so damn much I'd be able to get 20+ hours on the battery too!
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I'm sorry, I don't like when people put benchmarks down. I happen to believe that some of the benchmarks, including Quadrant Professional are accurate and reflective of real performance. Then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

disturkis4u said:
I believe the 'stable' rom you're referring to has broken GPS still.
Also, I think the op thought that the recent update was an official stock 2.2...
Anyway, the quadrant score is around 819 stock but with different mods, a good stable score is around 1600
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I just flashed bionix final team whiskey ,oc n everything its really really fast but I just ran a 790! Why did our run so slow? I barely have any apps on here in the first place...?

i get 900-910 with JI6 everything stock.
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sorry OP wants Score with 2.2

down8 said:
I just got 1903 after using the z4mod (ext2) on JI6:
Quite happy with that - but more happy with a somewhat useable phone!
-bZj
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exactly what i was about to say. who cares about 2.2 when you can flash a bionix rom and hit up to 2600 on quadrant. not that quadrant really means anything more than a benchmark.

I think OP is looking for a official froyo 2.2 rom...Sorry OP, no official froyo, but there is a ported version eugene has done.
Click here
Although this is a "froyo", no one is sure if this can be an accurate representation of how our vibrants will run when we get the official OTA, but if you want "froyo" now, by all means go ahead and flash it. Its still missing a few kinks and has bugs.

1.6 GHz Overclock

Team Whiskey has been successful in overclocking the T-Mobile Vibrant to 1.6 GHz, according to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8844947&postcount=41
Pretty incredible stuff. They're working on incorporating voodoo into this kernel right now, then they'll release it.
It sounds too good to be true.

omg!
(yeah, that's about all I have to say)

I believe I read somewhere that they were gonna do a captivate specific ROM via bionix. Pretty sure it is for 2.1, linpack is @12 MFLOPS and open GL site shows it on 2.1.-impressive? Yes . Can't say that I wouldnt take it for a spin though. Hopefully 2.2 will soon follow
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kennethpenn said:
Team Whiskey has been successful in overclocking the T-Mobile Vibrant to 1.6 GHz, according to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8844947&postcount=41
Pretty incredible stuff. They're working on incorporating voodoo into this kernel right now, then they'll release it.
It sounds too good to be true.
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Damn, with the back panel on the Captivate being metal, you might burn your hand with this setup.

kennethpenn said:
Team Whiskey has been successful in overclocking the T-Mobile Vibrant to 1.6 GHz, according to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8844947&postcount=41
Pretty incredible stuff. They're working on incorporating voodoo into this kernel right now, then they'll release it.
It sounds too good to be true.
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Its real...
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designgears said:
Its real...
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I came buckets

Dg do you have your hand in this cookie jar as well? Can we expect an overclocked version of cog 10? Lol
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I'll pretty sure they're gonna make z4mod their base. They're also going to implement led button notifications (;
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Yup its real his name is morfic. I briefly saw him and unhelpful chatting about it. I cant believe this thing is stable... only bad side is that it only runs eclair till we get source for froyo kernel.

Man I've been wanting to push this badboy past 1.2 ghz

Stable and tentative... Could see 1800! I was just thinking today (with the droid oc and all) when another one would come our way. I guess it was just a matter of time. And boy did it ever come!! Great thing is there is already plans to bring it our way
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I wanna see the screen shot with them running "quadrant advanced" to see the cpu score!!
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This one is Cognition 8.1 with z4mod.

Damn!!! I just read it as well, cant wait to give it a spin some day

if you read the current setup required for that 3k+ quadrant score, he said he was running OCLF, so drop between 500-700 points just for that to get a more realistic voodoo score. it's impressive, don't get me wrong, but it isn't as astounding because a lot of that score is still from OCLF (hell you can get 2500 with 1.2GHz and OCLF)...
as for a *STABLE* 1.6 GHz OC, I'll believe it when I see it.

Kaik541 said:
as for a *STABLE* 1.6 GHz OC, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Yeah my phone doesn't run well with a simple 1.2 GHz OC... so I'm skeptical of a stable 1.6 OC kernel.
Quadrant is just terrible. Any comparison scores should be taken using Advanced with the I/O test subtracted. But, even then, it only scores Qualcomm MSM processors "correctly."

Kaik541 said:
if you read the current setup required for that 3k+ quadrant score, he said he was running OCLF, so drop between 500-700 points just for that to get a more realistic voodoo score. it's impressive, don't get me wrong, but it isn't as astounding because a lot of that score is still from OCLF (hell you can get 2500 with 1.2GHz and OCLF)...
as for a *STABLE* 1.6 GHz OC, I'll believe it when I see it.
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It also gets 78fps in neocore versus ~55fps stock and it removes the fps cap. Issues with 1.2ghz seem to be due to undervolting rather than overclocking to 1.2ghz. In my experience it has worked fine at 1.2ghz without undervolt.
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/27/lat...-unlock-achieving-78-0-breaks-3k-on-quadrant/

WickedStyx said:
It also gets 78fps in neocore versus ~55fps stock and it removes the fps cap. Issues with 1.2ghz seem to be due to undervolting rather than overclocking to 1.2ghz. In my experience it has worked fine at 1.2ghz without undervolt.
http://phandroid.com/2010/10/27/lat...-unlock-achieving-78-0-breaks-3k-on-quadrant/
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yes, but I never questioned the FPS cap, I have no idea what affects that so I can't question it. besides, it's not like our eyes can see much more than 30 FPS, so the difference between 60 FPS and 78 FPS means little to me (in day to day usage). also, I never said anything about undervolting either or made a comment about the 1.2 GHz overclock. Mine runs fine with a 1.2 GHz overclock and the hummingbird processor has already been theorized to be stable up to 1.6 GHz, so this isn't really news, just the first time someone is advertising it as fully implemented. and, what stable means, is it runs across all the devices without things like the "sleep of death" effect occuring (which still happened for SOME with the 1.2 GHz OC).
so until I can personally see 1.6 GHz on my phone without any ill effects on battery life (which should only be minimal if the CPU is being scaled dynamically) or sleep death effects, I won't make a judgment... which is what I already said

This is awesome though! Woot woot!
Who needs a Galaxy S 2 with this?
2GHZ OC here we come!

Will hopefully find out soon a dl link for the vibrant ROM is in new thread "Manhattan project." Viral black posted that they have a Captivate but will try to port to every sgs variant possible. Captivate will be 2nd I would suppose. Sombionix did say they were working on a 2.2 ROM, so hopefully this will meet froyo in the not so distant future. It seemed to be working well from the posts that I read. Then again it is still early.
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Can be downloaded now:
"Manhattan Project"
http://www.teamwhiskey.com/home/downloads

HTC vs Epic why???

This might not be the right fourm but could someone please tell me why HTC phones are twice as fast than the Epic on linpack? I've tried a EVO and a Droid Incredible, both get a score of 32.500! Why?

Because JIT is optimized for Snapdragon processors, you see more performance boosts with those phones. However, mere benchmarks do not translate to real world performance whatsoever. My Epic is faster than any phone that's out there. Never go by benchmarks, lot of them are as useless as the Windows Experience Index crap. Our phones have the better hardware, when official Froyo is out and devs get the source, you'll see how powerful it really is.

Because linpack performance does not equal real life performance.... I also recall reading that linpack has not been optimized for the epic's processor. However, try 30 seconds using an evo and compare it to the epic and you'll have your actual answer
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I think they are a 128 bit system versus 64 bit. But all I hear from evo user is the epic is faster
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nimaim said:
Because JMy Epic is faster than any phone that's out there.
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Just like cars, there's always someone faster...I think it is pure ignorance to state you alone have the fastest phone in the whole world. *shrug* For me my user experience is awesome and i know firsthand that benchmarks don't tell the whole story and can be faked. With tmpfs and a little knowhow anyone can 3000+ on quadrant.
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I didn't mean to come across as arrogant. I didn't mean I alone have the fastest phone in the world at all. I meant with everything that's out in terms of OC'd kernels, Epic owners in general have faster phones than practically any other out there (currently). Benchmarks are not high, but that does not translate to real world performance which is what I was getting at.

Essentially what has been said before: Linpack has been compiled and optimized for the other processor. Someone has to write code for each specific processor in order for it to take advantage of each one's architecture. Back when Intel's Nahalem chips came out, similar results were observed (I used to build HPC clusters).

Try nenamark1. The epic smokes the evo in that test
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Simple, linpack is a test checking for raw CPU power via floating points..Snapdragon has a thing called a VFP which is a Floating Point Accelerator...
Aka instead of checking raw CPU power of the CPU..your checking how fast the the VFP processes floating points lol..
To give an example, its like one person actually taking a test, while the other is copying off an answer sheet..who will be the fastest?

If you go by benchmarks that have not had their code optimized for the Snapdragon, where it is more apples to apples (it will never be completely apples to apples), the Hummingbirds generally come out on top.
Plus, if you look at gaming, the FPS on the Hummingbird is much faster. Of course, CPU and graphics benchmarks are quite different.

It has a keyboard

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I'm pretty new to android phones but I did my homework before i decided on my epic. My wife wanted the Evo for the larger MP camera and bigger screen so we ended up with one of each. Form the time i've spent on my wife's evo and the time she has spent with my Epic we both have to agree that the Epic preforms far better in realworld test. The scrolling is smother and it has a better overall experience than the evo. So forget about benchmarks... just try one head to head and you'll see which one is the better device..

I've said this before and will say it again. My rooted evo with cm6 and oced to 1.12 ghz isn't as smooth as my epic was out the box. My evo gets 1500 on quadrent while my epic gets 1100 with no jit. Now you tell me wich phone is faster?
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gTen said:
To give an example, its like one person actually taking a test, while the other is copying off an answer sheet..who will be the fastest?
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The person taking the test will be faster since the copier has to wait for the answers.

Facepalm...
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crabjoe said:
The person taking the test will be faster since the copier has to wait for the answers.
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...your assuming he is copying from the other persons answer sheet and not the teacher's answer sheet...must we really get into this? >.> lol
Either way thats the reason...

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The person taking the test will be faster since the copier has to wait for the answers.
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Winner by TKO.

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Squirel aids!

Anyone else getting very low quadrant scores??

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This is about as high a score as I get. I'm running the new EB01 ROM with CPU set to performance and 1ghz. Anyone else getting these scores?
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Im only getting 1550ish with the new EB01 voodoo kernel. =/ That score you have is about what I get without voodoo on 2.2.

yeah im getting around 1500 with voodoo 2.2. I used to get over 2000 with 2.1 voodoo. Not sure what this is all about.

Quadrant standard is overrated unless you just like those pretty numbers.

ataranine said:
This is about as high a score as I get. I'm running the new EB01 ROM with CPU set to performance and 1ghz. Anyone else getting these scores?
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Considering a actual voodoo kernel (not leak) has yet to be released, that is expected. 1Ghz is just the normal max speed for the fascinate, so nothing surprising there.

I got 966 on my first try
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

Not sure what they mean but thats what I got
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

I scores are 1051, 1089, 1092, 1042
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Why is everyone so concerned with quadrant scores? They really don't mean anything.
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Kevin Gossett said:
Why is everyone so concerned with quadrant scores? They really don't mean anything.
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The phone runs fells like it's running faster and smoother to me than it did on 2.1 with a custom kernel. Quadrant score is lower though, so does that mean my phone is slower? No. Quadrant is just a test, its results mean absolutely nothing in terms of actual performance. If it did, that'd mean that Snapdragons are the superior CPU/GPU combo, when we all know that the Hummingbird is the most advanced chip in a phone outside of the Tegra 2.

Kevin Gossett said:
Why is everyone so concerned with quadrant scores? They really don't mean anything.
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Bragging rights..what else.

I dont care what they mean. I was just showing what I got.
From my super clean dl30 fascinate

Im getting about 1600 on eb01 on voodoo kernel without i get in the 900s but it may be because the voodoo kernel by jt is still in testing stage and he may not have it just right yet but knowing how good he is i am sure he will have it perfect soon.

I scored just over 1000 on EB01 non-voodoo but it really doesn't mean squat! I dunno why it doesn't score higher cause it fly's the way it is now... I mess with a friends Dinc all the time and I can see a huge difference in "Real World" use!

It means nothing.

Daswolven said:
It means nothing.
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Hahaha... Too funny

Benchmarking is good for 2 things, and ONLY 2 things:
1. Comparing a device to itself with different configurations to determine performance increases (like JIT vs non-JIT, voodoo vs non-voodo, etc).
2. Comparing one device to another with the same software configuration to determine build quality, find a hardware fault, etc (i.e. 2 identical SGS phones with identical software configuration, but one scores 1,500, and the other scores 600).
Other than that, benchmarks are nothing but pissing contests where one or both participants could be aiming into the wind at any given time (no matter the situation, someone ends up all wet).

Think I found an answer for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11443973#post11443973
same problem on my evo.... summary = newest version of quadrant is to blame.

I was getting damn near 1600 on Jt's aosp 2.2 w/o voodoo but meh

yeah i get like 943. The quandrant scores don't lie: 2.2 has slowed our phones down immensely.

ec05 vs eb13 modem

anyone have seen differences?

Yes they fixed some bugs from eb13. I'm getting faster 3g speed and no data lockups.
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musclehead84 said:
Yes they fixed some bugs from eb13
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Edit: (not to be confrontational, I am curious.)
Like? I'm on ec05 from eb13. I haven't noticed a modem-specific difference except one un sent sms on ec05.

I've been running the SyndicateROM 1.0.2 on the EB13 build and my performance was outstanding. I was getting benchmarks 1997 on Quadrant Standard. But I just flashed SyndicateROM 1.1.0 on the EC05 build and my performance dropped significantly. But only in numbers. It still feels as fast. And it feels more stable. I don't see any FCs and my 3G and GPS seem more stable, but my benchmarks dropped to 1327 on my last run. -___- I don't know what to make of this

froyotlbw88 said:
It still feels as fast. And it feels more stable. I don't see any FCs and my 3G and GPS seem more stable, but my benchmarks dropped to 1327 on my last run. -___- I don't know what to make of this
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Maybe realize how useless benchmarks are...

063_XOBX said:
Maybe realize how useless benchmarks are...
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Winnar!!! ACS has said numerous times they don't make their ROMs to have high benchmark scores, they make them for everyday use. To make them as fast and stable as possible for what you actually use the phone for, not for test.

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Maybe realize how useless benchmarks are...
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I guess... but my gaming graphics seem to be better with the EB13

froyotlbw88 said:
I guess... but my gaming graphics seem to be better with the EB13
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I would check out Smartbench 2010 or 2011 for benchmarks, seems to give a better comparison than other benchmark apps, at least IMO
As to the Modem, I seem to get better 3G signal in places I was getting a poor signal before, and my GPS works better than it ever has before

froyotlbw88 said:
I guess... but my gaming graphics seem to be better with the EB13
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I think that may be more to do with the new kernel in their new rom. they raised the fps cap and the overclocking. Everyones epic will react a little different to those changes. I have also noticed when graphics get intensive in games it seems to lag a little more then before but not much. Not trying to knock them its an amazing rom and its my daily. Just saying. Your benchmarks are way low though 1327 im asuming your talking quadrant? Im usualy around 2000.

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anyone have seen differences?
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I seem to have less latency in general. Throughput itself is about the same though.
I can't speak about call quality since the phone function sees very little use in my sad little life.

I know I'm just some random, anonymous internet dweeb who could be anyone but my opinion on benchmarks are this:
1) They're great for waggling e-penii.
2) Practically, they're a fair tool to use when comparing different ROMs and changes but ONLY when they're on the same hardware (i.e., your own phone)
3) They are useless tools when comparing to other people's phones even if they're the same hardware/model.
But, as you can see from my disclaimer below, it's just like, my opinion, man.

ringold24 said:
Your benchmarks are way low though 1327 im asuming your talking quadrant? Im usualy around 2000.
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Yea, when I was running on the EB13 modem my quadrant scores were pushing about 2000 also

since updating to ec05, I've found that data takes a bit longer to connect, but once it does its faster. I've also found that not when I'm sitting at my desk at home my phone will drop calls frequently which it never did before.... I walk 10 feet out onto my balcony and my signal increases from 0 bars to 5 bars and call quality is good. Never had this issue before ec05.

dchawk81 said:
I can't speak about call quality since the phone function sees very little use in my sad little life.
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