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I've been a se fan for years right from the t68i, I've enjoyed se phones right up until the x1i, Satios, x10i. se always seem to leave things out which are common knowledge or rushed out phones even though they were announced yonks ago. tediously slow at getting firmware out. I thought I'd give se one last chance as the x10 looked like se were back on the ball.
first few weeks of having the x10 I was amazed by it, but now the broken software and multitouch in games and a few other nags has made me fed up with it.
the last draw was today announcement of mspot, the app that enables you to upload your music library to the cloud, but of course its for 2.1 and along with Twitter and the best games!
also a few weeks back in typical se fasion se announced there would be a new firmware in a few weeks that fixes battery life and other things, well where the tool is it?
no multitouch (to be fair to se I did expect a flagship phone to be multitouch)
huge battery drains
broken photo tagging
slow timescape
none of the good games or apps
late promised firmware.
I think this is the last se phone ill buy, been burned too many times now.
rant over....
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Is easy.
If you don't like something, get rid of it.
Why so many questions?
Some buy smartphones for media capabilities.
Some buy them to play games.
some buy them to stay connected.
Some buy them because they look great.
Some...
Some...
If is not the phone for YOU, sell it.
It's funny that you used you X10 to write your post!! (just joking with you)
Come on... don't be too pessimistic and remember that every device has some bugs
To end your misery I'm willing to get rid of the X10 for you at no charge. My address is...
certainly you should get rid of it now
Haven't you got rid of your X10 yet hoss ????
The X10 is the best phone I have ever had... I've had a few !
I actually wish I had enough money to buy new phones each week as many on this forum seem to have. But seriously, changing to a new phone, exporting contacts, downloading apps, configuring etc.... I have better things to do with my life.
cashaw said:
Haven't you got rid of your X10 yet hoss ????
The X10 is the best phone I have ever had... I've had a few !
I actually wish I had enough money to buy new phones each week as many on this forum seem to have. But seriously, changing to a new phone, exporting contacts, downloading apps, configuring etc.... I have better things to do with my life.
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im with him 100% by the way u can look at the bad said all u want but if u look to what u can have from the market and how much apps u can find for what u need and this big 4" screen battary life doesnt matter as long as u have it working when u need it every thing about this phone for me is great im one of SONYs GREATS FANS and anything that has SONY under it for me is the best...that is how i feel sorry if i talk about my self:S but really look at the bright side u will be more than happy dont comper ur self to others every1 has his idea...
finaly love my phone
the thing is its got to the point that I don't trust se, it would be my nodding luck that I get rid of the x10 and then bam se brings multitouch to the x10!
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get the nexus one. it's got all the goodies you want.
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get the nexus one. it's got all the goodies you want.
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....and my Nexus ONE owning friends want to get rid of theirs and switch to the X10
It would really be a sad World if we all liked the same thing.
add this every1 knws september is the day the x10 will shin the most....
and u wont knw mybe the update after that keeps coming just stik to it and use it for what u have time will pass u will be happy u didnt sell it se will come to a point and make x10 one great phone .... coming from the word of HOPE
the main problem with x10 is it easily scratches (not screen ,the surround like side mirrors) and that it is impossible to be rooted
This phone was just an investment to me,
I nearly had it for free and it boast a high trade-in value in Singapore.
If the ROM could enable the X10 ( 4 MFLOPS ) to be nearly as good as the nexus one( 37 MFLOPS ), then I may keep it afterall - that is with Android 2.2
And if the battery could be way better, I would remove SE from my blacklist
Hi everybody
I've started this topic to share with you some of my wonderis regarding SE way of doing bussines. I mean why you promote a phone with some nice specs to a couple of costumers, just to show them a glance of heaven, and after that just spend an entire year trying to develop ando 2.1 and release that in a market where is allready history. Look at htc and other who are allready running 2.2. How far behind are they. This phone is theire flag ship. Android 2.2 is a couple of months olld... so based on this facts SE will be on top of the market... when? Something else: you got a nice processor and you only put 384 ram, when outthere top end devices got over 500 ram. Why is that SE is doing only half of the job wright. Is that a winning mentality? I bought this phone in the begining of september for 200 pounds becouse i wanted a device with gps cap. and i do not regret the choice i have made but i got a feeling that i could have done better... My last phone was a nokia 6210
so for me xperia x10 is a big step forward. Other stuffs: look
at time and mediascape witch are real nice stuff (this two are putting SE on top of the market and differentiate SE from the rest) but its just not enough...xperia x10 will never have the blink of a hd2 or nexus or iphone or whatever... becouse they restraint themself. Why? I really dont have a clue. What if the coming update will be a complete mess... hd rec and autofocus sound nice...but other will be running 2.2 with the same capabilities if not better. So in conclusion, SE had the chance to be on the top of their game but they started wrong (nice processor but only 384 ram) ,they continued wrong with unbelievable long time to develop a working 2.1(witch should have been relesed sometime in june or july just to be in the same pace, not in front, with the market) and they will do very wrong if they dont come fast with a new device that can be a real competitor for the beasts from the market. Xperia x10 is allready a lost cause.
Thank you for your time and please feel free to share your opinion.
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Arrogance.
They still think that Nokia is their only competition, and if it wasn't for EU law that made it a requirement to standardize chargers they would still be using their fastport connector.
so you open thread about the poor marketing skills
closed there is no point to it and it isn't contructive
The new SE Xperia Arc looks good.
Opinions on which one you would choose...
Personally I will never again buy a Sony Ericsson phone. Ever! Not after the debacle that was the X10.
They have a horrible habit of messing the software up in a big way and then taking ages - if at all - to fix it.
Nah, I'll definitely stick with my DHD I think
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i got rid of my SEx10 for my DHD, now the wait for the 2.1 upgrade for my X10 was well worth it but , i think im going to stick to my DHD for the time being as the ARC would be good should you want an upgrade
Sony means good hardware and horrible software support. By the time Gingerbread was releasing they were finally getting around to updating the X10 to Eclair.
If you are ok with being stuck with the same software version for the next two years I'd say go Sony.
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The Arc looks like a great handset but Sony (along with Samsung and LG in my experience) seem to have a history of failing to support their phones as soon as new ones come out... so personally I'd rule it out because of that.
Still, who needs manufacturer support when we have XDA
I had to get rid of my X10 too, i would not recommend getting an SE phone, at least not at launch.
The x10 was a joke. (Although still the best looking phone ive seen to date)
i have to be honest the Arc was tempting me. It looks absolutely awesome, it has HDMI out which i really wish the DHD could have, and it has this really hyped up camera technology which is great for low light photos i hear (SE cameras are great in general). Also people are praising the screen which is using bravia technology.
But alas, sony's really poor support with software, and thir god aweful ui on their phones is keeping me from getting one. I hear the X10 still doesnt have custom roms on it yet. that's another major drawback for it imo.
I'll be sticking with HTC for now.
Having only just got rid of the x10, i feel sony was a really big let down....custom roms are only just turning up, unlocking the bootloader looks to be very long way away. and the kernel which at this mo can still not be flashed and is holding what could of been a great phone back.Not many Devs working on the handset so it will take longer.
Sony are ment to have good cameras but the x10 was ok ish..
SunjinSak said:
Personally I will never again buy a Sony Ericsson phone. Ever! Not after the debacle that was the X10.
They have a horrible habit of messing the software up in a big way and then taking ages - if at all - to fix it.
Nah, I'll definitely stick with my DHD I think
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Exactly what I was thinking.
I mean don't get me wrong the X12 looks amzing and feature packed but after what happened to the X10 I don't think I can trust SE again with software updates.
There have been a lot of cool phones been announced at CES but tbh no other manufacturer has made a phone that I personally would want to buy, i'm stuck on HTC! I am really happy with the desire HD!
The main reason for xda exsisted was HTC phones, no other phones gets as much support dev wise, that why I always buy HTC, of course they great hardware and experience. Samsung come a close 2nd these days.
But Sony Arc and even LG Star might look like great phones but with no community support, they are dead in my eyes.
The only other phone I'd consider which isn't HTC or Sammy would be Atrix the new moto phone, but then again moto in Europe has poor support, and they tend have stupid bootloader.
i have a contract up in april and i think i will get the LG star the screen looks so good and a good battery music to my ears
also just incase you think i am anti HTC i have DHD my wife has desire and my little girl has my old HD2 running cm7 gingerbread on nand.
i dumped my x10 after their growing debate on multi touch and its poor battery life
ever since i gotten my DHD i'm so pleased i finally got HTC sense + the HTC keyboard that i didn't need to hack to get
don't think i'll switch back unless the arc has a better battery, i'm not too pleased with my DHD's battery
My wife will be getting the Arc on release as if she got a DHD she would always be confusing hers for mine (as she tends to lose hers a few times a day!).
I'm looking forward to having a play on it. I doubt very much it'd be worth an upgrade from a DHD, but for people on a Desire or below it might be worth a shout. Wife is still on a Hero, so should be a nice big upgrade for her.
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My wife will be getting the Arc on release as if she got a DHD she would always be confusing hers for mine (as she tends to lose hers a few times a day!).
I'm looking forward to having a play on it. I doubt very much it'd be worth an upgrade from a DHD, but for people on a Desire or below it might be worth a shout. Wife is still on a Hero, so should be a nice big upgrade for her.
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Especially true if she isn't an uber geek like most of us are. Normal people aren't overly concerned about being stuck on, say Eclair, if Eclair is providing for them the functionality they require.
However if you know about these forums and frequent them I will bet money you are not a normal user so in that case the X12 is still a bit of a gamble for reasons already discussed. I for one am confident that we will get official Gingerbread with HTC sense this quarter and it wouldn't surprise me if the Desire got it in short order too.
As for X12 users they may well be stuck on Gingerbread forever. That wouldn't be a bad thing because its hard fault Gingerbread it feels like the coming of age for Android to me but when Honeycomb comes I will want it even if the new features don't change the way I use my phone on a daily basis, only because I am a geek and want new features to play with.
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Until Sony releasing an android walkman, am sticking to desire HD
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Especially true if she isn't an uber geek like most of us are. Normal people aren't overly concerned about being stuck on, say Eclair, if Eclair is providing for them the functionality they require.
However if you know about these forums and frequent them I will bet money you are not a normal user so in that case the X12 is still a bit of a gamble for reasons already discussed.
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Yeah, exactly. She won't even let me root her phone so I can put FroYo on it! She even refused to put the OTA to 2.1 on until I begged her as it would fix the things she was moaning about!
So I think the Arc will probably be ideal for her. I'm sticking to my S-OFF, Rooted DHD though
There is a video of the arcs UI in action in engadget and let's just say Sony is still bad with software it looks very slow and lags a bit in the video. I guess don't might work it out before release but the if the x10 is any thing to go buy then I would advise to stay away from the arc.
Imo Sony and any compact for that matter would sell loads more units if they would just put stock android builds on their devices as it stands only HTC sense seems decent and even then I'd prefer stock
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I will not buy a SonyEricsson any time soon again...
I have my X10 lying in a drawer only as a toy, and spare phone...
The fact that Sonyericsson is lightyears behind HTC with firmware and other software, and the fact that they abandon a device like the flagship x10 after only 8 month on the marked, speak for it self...
And when they say that the new ARC is 4 times faster than the old x10, they hide the fact that the x10 also could be more than 4 times faster with optimized and new firmware...! the xda devs have proved that already...
Sonyericsson say they never will update the x10 to android 2,3 or even to 2,2, as they say that the users will gain nothing from that...
So x10 will be stuck on android 2,1...
And ARC users need to expect the same will happen to them also, don't expect to get newer firmware than what you buy the phone with...
The ARC don't even have dualcore, that many other manufacturs are planning to send out now...
I will personal NOT buy it, I would look at the LG X2 or wait for HTC to send out new handsets...
Buy a Sonyericsson and expect to get ****ed by them...
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Never buy or wait for a smartphone from SE. it is simply not worth it.
they promise you whatever you want to hear/read but they fail to deliver in all categories. i bought a p990i and and xperia-x1 and the story is always the same: first they announce a model, then they move the release over and over again up to 6-12 months. they rarely make more then 1 update/hotfix. they fail to upgrade the OS in a reasonable time (if they even consider it). they drop support on phones pretty fast.
service, support and updates: FAIL
i did observe this on: p990i, p1, x1, x10 ...
they even released android 1.6 phones in the US after most other companys switched to frojo ...
-QuadWord
Dual cures core phones are not exciting me much at all. They are worthless until there is an Android os which is optimized for them, and apps won't benefit until they are optimized for dual core.
Just like when the first 64 bit desktop cpu came out. Most people were still using 32 bit os on them until very recently because most software was and still is 32 bit anyway.
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Well X8's Golden Era is pretty much over.
What were your highlights?
My X8 was and is a dear companion, I love.
But now with no more development (little development) to be done we are at the end of the road, ready to part company move on to new devices unless you already have moved on.
You're kinda right, I must agree. More powerful OS's have come which the X8 can't fully handle but I liked this "journey" as I met the world of Android. Now I am a new dev, I've made some clocks and I will definitely keep up with it and get further. I loved the thrills of the first root moments and the other hacking stuff etc., making X8 better and better with new ROMs and mods, making it beautiful with lots and lots of themes but... X8 has gotten kinda old.
I'll buy a Galaxy Nexus when it's out or a Samsung Galaxy S II but I will never forget my X8... It was truly inspirational for me...
Noo don´t say that, i`ve just bought my X8 30 days ago.
I have my X8 for almost a whole year and its so good and i hope that it will survive next year too
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You will see that X8 fans development won't stop so fast
Yeah... you're right. I'm not selling away my X8. I'm gonna keep it. You know... This "journey" you said, Chris. It really brought us to the world of android. I'll buy a samsung galaxy s plus maybe. But I'll wait for a day when we'll laugh and get a fully working 2.3. Gonna miss you guys.
In my opinion, X8 is an outdated phone since the first day it launched. Although it was Android 1.6 and updated to 2.1, but it should be a 2.1 phone in that period. After that SE is never update it anymore except the small patchs.
I never saw a phone in my country drop 30-40% in price after 3-4months. The trade-in valve even less than Nokia 5800 Music Express. If you ask me why I bought this phone, it is because it was the best and cheapest phone around that period. If i know it will drop that much in so short time, i will wait for it.
But anyway, XDA and their developers made my phone worth to use. I am not going to buy/sell any phone in another year, although X8 has no better hardware compare to now, but still is a good phone for daily use and small games/apps. A phone can call, sms and surfing net is enough for me. The only bad thing is the small screen, if X8 had 3.5-4", it definitely a better phone for me to use in next year.
Finally, the only thing i hope for X8 is the ICS. It maybe cannot fulfill, but it is the last thing to hope for. After that, i guess we will change our phone for 2years later.
This is the phone that introduce me to the amazing world of Android.
My 1st Android phone and won't be the last.
don't say thaatt~
i love my x8, my first android phone..................
yeah it has been a year too for me too using x8 but i am happy that i didnt buy that outdated symbian phones xda has done many things to our phone
i just hoped that i will get app2sd for my phone thats all but see now we have fully devloped gb rom and if we are lucky probably ics too thanks to great devlopers like doixanx,ratch,gravier(you saved me twice with your flash tool) and all the other great devlopers
even if I buy a new phone I would still love my X8 ...but only if it still alive
Nothing can replace laughing my arse out when people with their fancy htcs had much more problems and lags than me...
Ofc they weren't rooted...
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X8 will never die... my first android phone...
My first android phone x16746798
Why I bought it? No I didnt it was a gift..First impresion not so good, compare to the other phones disaster. Then Columbo discovered xda forum and rooting then it was amazing transformation (new and beter custom rooms, multitouch, app2sd, fully working flash player...)
For this price there is no beter phone.
Now it's time to choose, which rom to use...
ahhh...
man, i could probaly see my phones life flashing through its eyes (its still alive dont worry i have 12 more months with this since its a contract im on.)
this phone has had its glory and now os moves on to ultimate stages where our x8 will not be able to compete in. i love my x8, its the first android iv ever had. my dad has an x10 mini so i got the insparation of an x8 from him but how our phone is obsolete. i will Always love my x8 but when my contract is over i will probaly het a xperia play or htc pr something like that
Its been a wonderful journey, but for me. I think my phone can last a few more months and that's it. Thanks to doixanh our phone is better than I could've ever imagened. 6 months ago, I never knew that I'd be running android 2.3.7 on my x8.
I love you SE,
but I hate the updates. You should hire. Doixanh.
Xperia 8 - Rooted - GINGERDX v018
yea x8 was a good phone but had it's grips for me MT was it !! (was a synaptic user)
so i just gave it to my brother and got myself a new handset and comparing it to the x8 it's a BLAST !
Well, yeah... X8 was my first android phone. I learn a lot, but there's still a lot of people here in M'sia using X8. because it's cheap. You can get it at around RM 400 (Around 129 USD).
Pretty nice smartphone. When it was announced, one year ago, I was thinking on getting it as soon as I could. But instead of it I got the Xperia X10, wich I don't have anymore...
So, I got X8 until now. I bought it last saturday, I got it in black with an extra case, black & cherry. It's a really good phone, small but cool, and with a Gingerbread ROM (GingerDX) I made it even better.
However, Im looking forward. If on December things go as I expect, I'd get Xperia Neo or Arc and give this master piece to my girlfriend, who needs a good phone. In case that I can't get one of those two, I'd stick with my X8 until next year when the new Sony Ericsson smartphones come out ("Nozomi", perhaps?)
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
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drali500 said:
In the beginning of this topic I like to thank all the people here that helped me and inspired me for the past 6 months and made me love my phone more and use it to the max.
I just got a heartache when I saw the news of jb not coming for our beloved device which is capable unfortunately .sony used their own ways to make the rumors come true .
So I will sell it today I am not a fan of Sony anymore I will buy nexus or s3 or HOX, so goodbye my friends and god bless you all.
Special thanks for :
Aeon
Thilianic
JJdoctor
Pandemic
Jader
Maxio
Besttt
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And many more of you .
Sent from My Xperia U_R_J_I_B_S
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I also expected that atlest arc s will get jb
Lot of us won't buy sony again. I'll stick to samsung or maybe LG Nexus 4. A lot of people ask me for advise when buying a new phone, Sony is banned from now on.
Only Sony if they release acceptable hardware with unlocked bootloader. Probably LG or Nexus for me next year.
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this is what i think
i dont know more about this
but as i have noticed and i have seen as weel
compair to SAMSUNG and LG sony is giving at list 2 updates as well as if you take a close look at UI and hardware design then you will realize that sony is making such nice handset of the level where in samsung LG cant even think
one very true incident
in my family most of people are using sony and you all guys wont believe they all have even not update to ics they has to say that its more then enough
so if you think keeping general customer in hand then they all are satisfied
but you for development crezzy genies like you all guys sony should at list provide 4.1.1 or 5.1 to arc s as that is the most and the last expensive handset by SE(sony ericsson)
here i have just shared my opinion i may b wrong or right but this is what i think
I don't like sony because...
- Screens are not so good imho
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for example
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM.
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Why I hate Sony:
- Screens are all 100% CRAP! arx Screen has 20% Contrast compared to S3, looks really unsharpen
- Outdated Hardware
- Crappy build quality just lost my arc while jogging and now its screen is cracked and i can pay 130$ haha Never... I'll buy new phone
- Exmor R actually really sucks compared to Note 2 Camera for exsample
- Really Slow. My arc on stock ics had 0.00MB free RAM - than Ultimate HD came LOLz
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- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
mr_torture said:
- Screens are not crap. And it doesn't look unsharpen because of contrast but because of much lower dots-per-inch density. And, comparing an phone released in january 2011 with one released in may 2012... Really?
- Get yourself an Samsung/Apple device, and let it fall while you're jogging. Let us know the result.
- Exmor R Sucks?
- Yes, the ICS update is quite slow, mostly because of laziness of Sony programmers, not because of crappy hardware.
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1. I said it look unsharpen AND low contrast. I hate sony screens
2. Ok. I dropped my iPod 3 times at same day and no probs at all
3. Yes, very high colored Pixels (dont remeber word)
4. Yeah
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My Mighty WhiteHOX has arrived
Goodbye SONY & welcome HTC
Good luck with white hox!
http://gizmodo.com/5931430/htc-one-x-after-4-months-weird-batteries-and-wimpy-gorrillas
Well about the ppl comparing arc s and samsung galaxy s 3 are u ****ing kiding me? ?? 4 cored phone vs single core ? with around 1 and a half year defferance ?Sony was never really good at developers phones.Sony/sony ericsson was good at making beautiful phones and thats what arc is and now xperia T.In my opinion arc s gives all the productivity the main stream user needs.If u were looking for a developer's phone u should have bought nokia n900 or HTC HD 2 and test whatever software u want.I still have friends that are all new software inthusiasts and they are still using hd 2 with ICS on it.So... pls stop crying about sony not adding more and more updates to there 2011 phones.U cant ever compare arc s to sg s2 because s2 got 2 times the proccesor power and if u bought atnt version it got even more soooo ***** please
I just cant believe all these post.
- Sony has a really nice screen, beatiful real color, not amoled that are just strong shiny fakes color, Only for the blacks are better. And outside with the sunlight i dont have problem with my Arc, except sometimes but trust me, all other phone would have the same problem.
- My Arc fell from my bed or desktop thousand of times and it has only a uncolored edge and some lines behind the cover if u look really closly. My bro dropped his Nexus S once and the glass got broke. Its just luck, but for sure isnt bad our screen.
- The camera is something awesome. A bit buggy? well still 1000 better than my friend's Galaxy Nexus.
- Audio quality and all Media services are fantastic. I love the Walkman, the Album, and Video. Are really well done. Listening music with the earplugs makes me enjoy about my choise and i dont need some stupid iPod or Mp3 player.
- Design, i fell in love with it.
- price/quality of the Arc is perfect.
- ICS yes it was buggy but at least we had it, lot of other mobile didnt even get it and are stuck with Froyo or GB, so u can go back to GB to have a smoothest phone and have their same experience and dont have ICS.
And well the outdated hardware is true, but then if u prefer the last quadcore dont complain about the prices. I payed my arc S same price of how much the Galaxy S was. Glad i choose this. and honestly if i have to pay 150 euro for a ****ty phone with 300MB of ram, 600Mhz a 3Mpx camera and 3.5" screen, or 700/800 euro for a quadcore , 4.7" screen and God knows what other useless feature, i prefer 300 euro for such a good quality.
Next time feel free to buy a useless quadcore (they are smartphone...playing N.O.V.A or FB dont really need a 1.5GHz quadcore) that come with ICS, will get JB and LK and then in the middle of 2013 or beggining of 2014 will be the same story again. Samsung/HTC/LG dont update our phone, they suck, never again.
Only the Ram its the only thing that new phones, and also old one needs.
Im sad like all of u, but they need to sell new phones, they dont gain anything by upgrading. Maybe in a future would be nice if they give us the source, but nowdays people changes phones every 6 months, like people who had bought GSII and some months after the GS III and as soon the GS IV will come out, they will buy it. There are always people who will buy the last product, so they just care about creating new things for new consumers. Sony already updated the ICS series. Buggy? then as i already said go back to GB like most of all other 2011 phones.
+1 For Gogobaba behind me even if Arc S kicks GS II ass. For normal phone usage (is not playing games. We arent iPhone users, we buy SMARTphone not Gambeboy) the dual core doesnt show any difference, maybe 0.5 second faster.
BTW my first phone was a Samsung Omnia II: WM 6.x and Samsung top mobile. 1 weeks after that i bought it,all omnia's owner find it out that we werent going to get WP 7.
Did i said Samsung suck or never again windows? no i just enjoyed my phone.
As above, people moan but they're talking about what is now technologically an old phone....
People grumble about lagging and other trivial things but mine for example, flies! Admittedly through the help of some good developers....those who complain surely haven't had it from release because there are some crazy expectations. If you can't afford a fancy top line handset, At least don't moan about the best your budget can afford. I've had one from release and still now there's not anything on any other phone that I can't live without...
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I ditched Sony when I found out downgrading your arc two versions lower bricks the battery gauge.
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Oh yea and I couldn't unlock my bootloader for some reason, just wouldn't let me from the Sony website.
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I totally agree with you. So many butthurt people =j
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I can't believe people buy Sony phones expecting to get a powerhouse, my sister owns a Xperia Arc and she doesn't even knows she can update to ICS (she doesn't even knows what that is) and she is 100% in love with her phone, the reason why I like and will stick to Sony phones are the following:
-Polished, simple and unique UI (I'm looking at you, TouchWiz and however LG's UI is named).
-Beatiful designs. (Kind of personal here, but I mean, SG2 is just a rectangular phone with a button on the center compared to the NXT series).
-Good camera. (at least on my X10a, MK16a and SK17a).
-Unlike other companies, they prove hardware doesn't means good user experience (check iPhone 4 performance [good] and 2011 Xperia performance on GB [good] and LG Optimus Black performance [ugh])
There may be some more reasons I forgot, but seriously, Xperias are very good offerings all around, that's why my next phone will be either Xperia V or P, I mean: good designs, good prize (at least on Xperia P), good camera and good performance.
Besides, I got Galaxy Note 1 with my new contract on March and I really didn't liked it, screen was pretty nice and camera didn't dissapoint, but performance wasn't as smooth as Samsung was claiming, it also got pretty hot, HELL! when I got out of the store the day I got it, it got so hot I had few blue paint on my hand! ._. I sold it in 1 week and got my Xperia Pro and a Laptop with that money. <.<
I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
I think sony still better than samsung as the devices are less brickable hardware-wise.
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I agree that Sony has already done its good job to arc, but I dun agree that it has "finish" their job already.
Here is the fact:
- Arc was launched since 2011 Apr
- 4.1 Jelly Bean Source Code Released to AOSP in 2012 Jul, which is 16 months after Arc was available
- Sony(Ericsson) was a member of the Android Alliance which has promised timely Android OS updates for 18 months after device launch, in Google I/O 2011
Unless Sony gives out a strong reason and proof that the hardware of Arc is the inadequacy for the update, I cannot conclude Sony has delivered its best effort to for Arc/2011series
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Couldn't agree more
But I was expecting JB atleast for Arc S.
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Atleast, Arc S should have been updated, no?
Oh lord and even for the newly released ph we have to wait 4-5 months more, when it was supposed to come with JB. And no new about NXT series. Uff, I dont even like Samsung and HTC, and now only way is "Nexus".
Too bad Sony, you asked for it.
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I think Sony users are very lucky and should be happy with their phones. I had an Arc, absolutely loved it. Jumped ship to an LG Optimus 3D and it doesn't even have ICS yet, much less any talk about JB (screw the Open Handset Alliance). Sony ROMs give one of the cleanest, stock-like experiences unlike almost all the other manufacturers which bundle crap like Touchwiz, Optimus UI, Sense etc, which imo is one of the few reasons why the 2011 Xperia devices are able to run ICS so smoothly. I really don't see why people are already complaining because there isn't any phone running JB that is single core AFAIK, especially when the phone is admittedly rather old.