[Q] Help me understand Kernels... - Fascinate General

Please excuse my noobieness, but could someone explain to me what exactly kernels are pertaining to roms? The reason why I ask is because I have the Fascinate with EB01 with Voodoo. I want to use Superio's voodoo sound tweaks, and I know that it isn't currently possible without the Froyonate's source code. Is it possible to use the Galaxy S's voodoo froyo kernel for the Fascinate? If so, what can I do to make it happen? Thanks in advance...

brickbeats said:
Please excuse my noobieness, but could someone explain to me what exactly kernels are pertaining to roms? The reason why I ask is because I have the Fascinate with EB01 with Voodoo. I want to use Superio's voodoo sound tweaks, and I know that it isn't currently possible without the Froyonate's source code. Is it possible to use the Galaxy S's voodoo froyo kernel for the Fascinate? If so, what can I do to make it happen? Thanks in advance...
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OK but we're going to need a lot of peanut butter.....
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brickbeats said:
Please excuse my noobieness, but could someone explain to me what exactly kernels are pertaining to roms? The reason why I ask is because I have the Fascinate with EB01 with Voodoo. I want to use Superio's voodoo sound tweaks, and I know that it isn't currently possible without the Froyonate's source code. Is it possible to use the Galaxy S's voodoo froyo kernel for the Fascinate? If so, what can I do to make it happen? Thanks in advance...
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For general information about what the linux kernel is/does do some google searches. The kernels across different galaxy S devices are NOT interchangeable. We currently do not have source for froyo on the fascinate. Due to the nature of how the modifications work, voodoo lagfix was added to the kernel without needing to recompile form source, however voodoo sound fixes must be applied to source, rather than an already compiled kernel. Samsung will not release the source until at the very least, an official froyo is released. I suspect you might get some angry replies for posting this question. This is essentially because unless you're a competent linux hacker, the only thing you can do is wait patiently, even once the source is released.

This belongs in general. You should really use the search function.
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Ok, I think that thr kernel is the core of the android operating system, where the drivers for the different hardware of your phone resides and the rom is the actual operating system, the kernel must be compatible to your phone otherwise it will not work. Many roms that you see posted here include kernels, the ones that dont you have to be carefull because if you have for example a non vodoo kernel and install a vodoo rom you will have serious problems, im no expert but maybe somebody more knowledgeable can correct me
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Voodoo is part of the kernel, not the rom. If you see a rom that is advertised as a Voodoo rom, it's because it comes with a Voodoo kernel. Installing a Voodoo rom and/or kernel won't cause any harm, but if you have the Voodoo lag fix installed and flash a non-Voodoo kernel, or a rom that contains a non-Voodoo kernel, you will get to learn how to use Odin very quickly. It's always a good idea to learn whether or not the rom you are flashing contains a kernel or not, just so that you don't get surprised by something after the fact.
Posted from my EB01 SuperClean Fascinate with Voodoo

ivorycruncher said:
you will get to learn how to use Odin very quickly.
Posted from my EB01 SuperClean Fascinate with Voodoo
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wait i learned odin real quick... isn't that thing we use to flash stuff and only click PDA and start on? <----- sarcasm.
ugh... my humor has really gone bonkers... time to take a couple ambien...

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[Q] Kernal Question.

Hello, right now I am using JTsuperclean ROM and his kernel. If i were to just flash Stupid-fast right over that, would my phone still work? Sorry if this is kind of a stupid question.. I am still learning about my phone and what I can and cannot do.
That is exactly how its done.
Your phone should work great. I am on stupidfast undervolt and like it a lot.
Have fun.
P.S. its voodo that can change how you flash from one kernel to another.
As long as its not voodoo you can change at will.
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yea it depends on if your kernel has voodoo or not.
IF YOU HAVE A VOODOO KERNAL DO NOT FLASH STUPIDFAST.
you need to uninstall voodoo first
PS: dont post questions in the development section, the general section is for that.
Alright thanks. I know for a fact i am NOT using Voodoo. i made sure to use non-voodoo. So i can just change ROMS and Kernels whenever I want, as long as i am NOT using voodoo?
Yes
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[Q] Some slightly newbish Questions

Hey Guys I have done a little searching and haven't found the answers to my particular questions.
I came from a MotoD1 and had done plenty of custom Rom flashing and I feel pretty comfortable with the whole process. Now my question is about the selection for the Galaxy S (specifically the Fascinate) phones. I see all these vodoo lagfixes and ext file system fixes and the like. Maybe I am over thinking this all but I am confused.
On the D1 you picked out the ROM you wanted and made sure the kernel was the correct for your version on android (Eclair, Froyo, etc.) And some times you found a ROM and kernel that just didnt work too well together.
Is the Vodoo kernel just a group of guys doing it like Chevy and P3Droid and I can flash it to any compatible versions of and android rom? or is it something slightly different?
An dwhat exactly is the lagfix?
finakechi said:
Hey Guys I have done a little searching and haven't found the answers to my particular questions.
I came from a MotoD1 and had done plenty of custom Rom flashing and I feel pretty comfortable with the whole process. Now my question is about the selection for the Galaxy S (specifically the Fascinate) phones. I see all these vodoo lagfixes and ext file system fixes and the like. Maybe I am over thinking this all but I am confused.
On the D1 you picked out the ROM you wanted and made sure the kernel was the correct for your version on android (Eclair, Froyo, etc.) And some times you found a ROM and kernel that just didnt work too well together.
Is the Vodoo kernel just a group of guys doing it like Chevy and P3Droid and I can flash it to any compatible versions of and android rom? or is it something slightly different?
An dwhat exactly is the lagfix?
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Wrong section, please post in general.
Voodoo is lagfix. Lagfix fixes the lag. Though with the newer kernels, the lag isn't noticeable really. Join the irc and we will be happy to help you.
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[Q] BLN on DL30

Is there a kernel out for it yet?
No, and there will not be, until Froyo is official.
Or unless someone leaks the kernel source to wikileaks!
This reminds me... I've been wondering about JT's boot animation kernel. Did he just patch the leaked DL30 kernel somehow? His ASOP froyo kernel still has some things not implemented, so I don't think it's based off of that. Ah, this little side note has become too long and is now off topic.
Anyway, isn't it a goal of BLN to get all of their implementation out of the kernel so that any kernel can be used? I think supercurio is trying to do that with the Voodoo sound driver too, so that it won't need to be added to the kernel.
I fully support this, especially if we start seeing more fascinate froyo (or higher) leaks.
There won't be a working bln kernel until we have source to build from. Boot animation support is one of the few things that can be changed about the kernel we have.
I see. Thanks!
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[Q] Non_Voodoo Kernal for EB01

First I wanted to give props to lowkee for his thread:
[EB01 WALKTHROUGHS] Rooting, Clockwork, Voodoo, Stock and Custom ROM, Battery, etc
Awesome walk through for newbies, but a question to the developers on possibly developing a non-Voodoo kernal for EB01. I liked how on previous versions of the Fascinate ROMS there was that option, if you're weren't great at backing out of Voodoo. Plus it can add to the walk through as another option.
If it already exists than I apologize for not doing enough research in the forums.
stang281 said:
First I wanted to give props to lowkee for his thread:
[EB01 WALKTHROUGHS] Rooting, Clockwork, Voodoo, Stock and Custom ROM, Battery, etc
Awesome walk through for newbies, but a question to the developers on possibly developing a non-Voodoo kernal for EB01. I liked how on previous versions of the Fascinate ROMS there was that option, if you're weren't great at backing out of Voodoo. Plus it can add to the walk through as another option.
If it already exists than I apologize for not doing enough research in the forums.
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Non Voodoo kernel is included in the stock and superclean rom.
i think he was looking for options with the kernels (non-voodoo).
Maybe OC, low voltage, etc....
no kernel source equals more than likely no custom kernels til after the ota....minus the addition of ext4

Trying to flash voodoo to phone....

I'm trying to flash the latest voodoo kernel to my boys fascinate. But it doesn't seem to work like it did when I did it to my mesmerize. Is there a thread that gives you the step by step process? He really wants to use the BLN notification app but we need to do this first. So any help will be greatly appreciated.
voodoo and BLN are two different things. If he is on froyo, we cannot add BLN to it due to lack of source. Once we get source, we will add BLN but until that time all we have in 2.2 kernels is voodoo lagfix, because that can be injected into kernels.
This belongs in general:
Here's a guide that contains everything you will need:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897889
Ctrl+F is your friend.
cabagekiller said:
voodoo and BLN are two different things. If he is on froyo, we cannot add BLN to it due to lack of source. Once we get source, we will add BLN but until that time all we have in 2.2 kernels is voodoo lagfix, because that can be injected into kernels.
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he is still on eclair. We are just trying to do bln mod

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