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As the title states.. at this moment there is absolutely no reason why we dont have custom roms floating around for our devices yet, other then the fact that noone has taken the time to make one
We have a fully functional recovery from koush as far as pushing custom roms go.. we also have a fully functional froyo base to work with as well as a froyo .32 kernal.. nothing is stopping us at this point other then the fact that noones done one yet
Whos going to be the first to throw one out there?
Whoever it is, please remove all the bloat... Deodex all the system files for easy theming and try to zipalign and optimize however you can
This thread is absolutely useless, not to mention in the wrong section.
anybody can post it. But why sud be Start to Speculate or Gamble. When it will be available it will be like we got Froyo 2.2 stock image
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As the title states.. at this moment there is absolutely no reason why we dont have custom roms floating around for our devices yet, other then the fact that noone has taken the time to make one
We have a fully functional recovery from koush as far as pushing custom roms go.. we also have a fully functional froyo base to work with as well as a froyo .32 kernal.. nothing is stopping us at this point other then the fact that noones done one yet
Whos going to be the first to throw one out there?
Whoever it is, please remove all the bloat... Deodex all the system files for easy theming and try to zipalign and optimize however you can
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if your phone has root you can remove all the bloat you want and install whatever you want. you should get started with root explorer
Make your own F***ing rom then if you dont feel like waiting for somone to make one. Anyway I bet there is many people working on roms right for the droid x
So many smartasses. How about you guys lay off and get a life, the guy was just asking a question.
I agree with the OP, right around the time that koush released his recovery there were a bunch of people talking about coming out with froyo roms (birdman and rainabba namely)but without the froyo kernel, then the leaked froyo came out and nothing ever happened since.
Now we have a froyo kernel to work with, we just need a stock android build without any oem customization.
Bootloader still locked?
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I dont feel like we really need a new rom, whats it gonna do for me? It will either be 2.1 or the 2.2 leak with different themes/different apps, something I could and would rather do myself.
Outside of theming, I dont see the point.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I dont feel like we really need a new rom, whats it gonna do for me? It will either be 2.1 or the 2.2 leak with different themes/different apps, something I could and would rather do myself.
Outside of theming, I dont see the point.
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There is definately benefits to be had as far as performance goes as well.. cleaning up the froyo build and optimizing / zipaligning the apks will get things going well, and as you said as far as theming goes, a completely deodexed rom will allow complete themes from A to Z not just status bar things, could even put a new lockscreen in place that may not have any crazy lag
I could see an industrious dev cleaning up the froyo build a little, but I have had almost zero issues with this build, outside of a build.prop change. We will see one soon I am sure, hell, Im just glad we finally have a custom recovery.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
I could see an industrious dev cleaning up the froyo build a little, but I have had almost zero issues with this build, outside of a build.prop change. We will see one soon I am sure, hell, Im just glad we finally have a custom recovery.
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Yeah i just find it humerous that everyone was complaining we dont have a custom recovery and the world is goin to end, and im not going to buy a Droid X because the bootloader is locked etc etc yada yada... but then when we actually get rom flashing capabilities, noone even uses it lol
Isn't the bootloader for the Droid X still locked? IE no custom roms?
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They found a way around it, custom roms are doable now, just noones made one
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So, maybe this would be better asked in another thread, but how would I go about pulling the recovery image in order to customize it? I'm simply assuming that's how it's done, so if not, let me know. I would like to start messing with making some roms, but have no clue where to start as it seems to be all device-centric. Where does one learn all of this?
Joe92T said:
They found a way around it, custom roms are doable now, just noones made one
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I don't understand how it's doable with a locked bootloader? If someone created a clean froyo rom how would it boot? Wouldn't that be similar to removing all the apk's from the leaked rom and expecting it to boot?
Please tell me if I'm wrong...
bart77 said:
I don't understand how it's doable with a locked bootloader? If someone created a clean froyo rom how would it boot? Wouldn't that be similar to removing all the apk's from the leaked rom and expecting it to boot?
Please tell me if I'm wrong...
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We can do custom roms, but have to include and not modify the stock kernel. So, no modular overclocking I believe.
Basically, the first roms to come out will be de blur'd so to speak, and then AOSP roms will hit later. Promise Just a matter of time.
The original lockdown of the bootloader and "efuse" scared a lot of dev's off of getting the X. I only know a handful of people deving for the X, so I assume this is why customs roms are taking a while to come out.
Regardless, they'll be here soon enough. Patience
Im getting the x soon, and maybe i can whip up a rom
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Koush's recovery for 2.1? Will it work on 2.2?
Steeleio said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Koush's recovery for 2.1? Will it work on 2.2?
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Unless the 2.2 out isnt root friendly, it should work, but then again, i dont have an x
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Please excuse my noobieness, but could someone explain to me what exactly kernels are pertaining to roms? The reason why I ask is because I have the Fascinate with EB01 with Voodoo. I want to use Superio's voodoo sound tweaks, and I know that it isn't currently possible without the Froyonate's source code. Is it possible to use the Galaxy S's voodoo froyo kernel for the Fascinate? If so, what can I do to make it happen? Thanks in advance...
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Please excuse my noobieness, but could someone explain to me what exactly kernels are pertaining to roms? The reason why I ask is because I have the Fascinate with EB01 with Voodoo. I want to use Superio's voodoo sound tweaks, and I know that it isn't currently possible without the Froyonate's source code. Is it possible to use the Galaxy S's voodoo froyo kernel for the Fascinate? If so, what can I do to make it happen? Thanks in advance...
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OK but we're going to need a lot of peanut butter.....
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brickbeats said:
Please excuse my noobieness, but could someone explain to me what exactly kernels are pertaining to roms? The reason why I ask is because I have the Fascinate with EB01 with Voodoo. I want to use Superio's voodoo sound tweaks, and I know that it isn't currently possible without the Froyonate's source code. Is it possible to use the Galaxy S's voodoo froyo kernel for the Fascinate? If so, what can I do to make it happen? Thanks in advance...
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For general information about what the linux kernel is/does do some google searches. The kernels across different galaxy S devices are NOT interchangeable. We currently do not have source for froyo on the fascinate. Due to the nature of how the modifications work, voodoo lagfix was added to the kernel without needing to recompile form source, however voodoo sound fixes must be applied to source, rather than an already compiled kernel. Samsung will not release the source until at the very least, an official froyo is released. I suspect you might get some angry replies for posting this question. This is essentially because unless you're a competent linux hacker, the only thing you can do is wait patiently, even once the source is released.
This belongs in general. You should really use the search function.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announ...oderator-team/
Ok, I think that thr kernel is the core of the android operating system, where the drivers for the different hardware of your phone resides and the rom is the actual operating system, the kernel must be compatible to your phone otherwise it will not work. Many roms that you see posted here include kernels, the ones that dont you have to be carefull because if you have for example a non vodoo kernel and install a vodoo rom you will have serious problems, im no expert but maybe somebody more knowledgeable can correct me
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Voodoo is part of the kernel, not the rom. If you see a rom that is advertised as a Voodoo rom, it's because it comes with a Voodoo kernel. Installing a Voodoo rom and/or kernel won't cause any harm, but if you have the Voodoo lag fix installed and flash a non-Voodoo kernel, or a rom that contains a non-Voodoo kernel, you will get to learn how to use Odin very quickly. It's always a good idea to learn whether or not the rom you are flashing contains a kernel or not, just so that you don't get surprised by something after the fact.
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ivorycruncher said:
you will get to learn how to use Odin very quickly.
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wait i learned odin real quick... isn't that thing we use to flash stuff and only click PDA and start on? <----- sarcasm.
ugh... my humor has really gone bonkers... time to take a couple ambien...
hello fellas
this was as pm for supercurio mentioned i cant send him one and cant answer/make a topic in the dev sektion so i decided to make a new topic in the general sektion if someone could give him the info ive got if he didnt knowed that, that would be nice
so the info ive got for you is:
a friend of mine got the nexus s (i9023) and i compared my sgs and the nexus s with the android system info tool cause i would like to know why its that bit better
1st thing i saw was that the 2 phones have exactly the same processor and gpu the only thing is that the nexus s got a few more sensors
so why its faster
at this point i looked at the mountpoints and what amazing surprise the whole nexus s runs on ext4 even the system, data, dbdata etc.
so my thoughts are that it could be worth to have a look at the nexus s sources cause of the same hardware of the phones i think that the missing features can be found there
im not a coder but im a linux enthosiast and more hardware interrested but i thought this could be usefull for making ext4 work on the sgs
so with the best regards
yours
sputnicyes
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Ext 4 Does work on the SGS, its called a lagfix, and anybody running a custom ROM / Kernel is probably using Ext 4.
unless i have misunderstood your post ???
sputnicyes said:
hello fellas
this was as pm for supercurio mentioned i cant send him one and cant answer/make a topic in the dev sektion so i decided to make a new topic in the general sektion if someone could give him the info ive got if he didnt knowed that, that would be nice
so the info ive got for you is:
a friend of mine got the nexus s (i9023) and i compared my sgs and the nexus s with the android system info tool cause i would like to know why its that bit better
1st thing i saw was that the 2 phones have exactly the same processor and gpu the only thing is that the nexus s got a few more sensors
so why its faster
at this point i looked at the mountpoints and what amazing surprise the whole nexus s runs on ext4 even the system, data, dbdata etc.
so my thoughts are that it could be worth to have a look at the nexus s sources cause of the same hardware of the phones i think that the missing features can be found there
im not a coder but im a linux enthosiast and more hardware interrested but i thought this could be usefull for making ext4 work on the sgs
so with the best regards
yours
sputnicyes
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I do not mean to be rude but you are approximately one year late with this idea of yours.
As far as I can tell the OP may have had one of three goals in mind when they put this post up:
1) The OP is saying that Ext4 would be a viable option for the file system on the SGS: Yes, this was discovered and almost universally implemented on custom ROMs and kernels here. In fact, searching for the term Ext4 in the i9000 forums brings up more than 250 threads where Ext4 is a keyword. The OP may even find some of them instructive.
2) The OP is saying that devs may be able to learn a new way to implement Ext4 on the i9000 by studying the file structure of the Nexus S: I would doubt that. The file system is the file system no matter the hardware it is mounted on, besides which everyone has already made very clear that as far as Android implementation the Nexus S and the SGS line are pretty much identical.
3) The OP was trying to illustrate WHY Supercurio doesn't accept random PMs: Mission accomplished.
lol i knowed that my sgs runs on that lagfix
but there are missing features in 2.3.3 and it seems that the the nexus s (also running 2.3.3 and the same processor) has that missing features implemented in the kernel
or im wrong what supercurio writes in his post about the ext4 lagfix on 2.3.3 for the sgs
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Try any Custom Kernel, Speedmod, Voodoo Stable, DamianGTO, Dark Core & many more. All have the option to convert all partitions to ext4.
Or you can try Darky, Docs, Juwe's or any other Custom Rom, The Kernels included with all custom roms usually support conversion to ext 4.
And yes ext4 on SGS make it Super fast. I use it personally & really like the fast response of ext4 compared to RFS.
Just try it. If you are on stock Rom I would suggest to try a custom kernel from Development Section of this forum to see how it feels. Search for any of the kernels i mentioned & follow the installation instructions there.
so let me get clear
supercurio writes here:
[KERNEL] Hacked Lagfix/Ext4 Samsung Galaxy S Gingerbread - JVB
that there are missing features in the kernel of 2.3.3 jvb
my thoughts are that these missing features can be found in the nexus s kernel sources cause it runs also an 2.3.3 release of android
Galaxy S is not as fast as NS because of bad samsung coding and bad framework implementation. Try CM7 on SGS and see it is as fast.
I now use with samsung s gingerbread - jfs filesystem and I can see it s faster than ext4 but still not cm7 fast (which has ext4).
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So I just picked up a tab today and of course the first thing to do is root, so just a couple of questions, I have a SGS and am on a CM7 ROM, so Im not a complete noob, although this next question may be a noob one... I was looking at the VFP OC kernel and was wondering if it was rooted, meaning can I just flash that kernel and be rooted?
The useragent mod looks to be a no brainer as far as having it, what other apps or mods would you guys consider standard ones to have?
I wont be doing anything till I fully read over what to do as far as rooting or anything else goes but it seems pretty straight forward since we are using the same tools i.e. CWM and ODIN, so just looking for suggestions ATM
Thanks ahead of time
DT3CH said:
So I just picked up a tab today and of course the first thing to do is root, so just a couple of questions, I have a SGS and am on a CM7 ROM, so Im not a complete noob, although this next question may be a noob one... I was looking at the VFP OC kernel and was wondering if it was rooted, meaning can I just flash that kernel and be rooted?
The useragent mod looks to be a no brainer as far as having it, what other apps or mods would you guys consider standard ones to have?
I wont be doing anything till I fully read over what to do as far as rooting or anything else goes but it seems pretty straight forward since we are using the same tools i.e. CWM and ODIN, so just looking for suggestions ATM
Thanks ahead of time
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Welcome! Use the rooting video guide to get CWM on your GT10, once you've done that just use the CWM program to flash both ROMs and Kernels.
As for the mods, you don't need them as they are already baked into most of the ROMs. Try Starburst or Task650 for ROMs, And definitely use pershoot's Kernel (and get the SetCPU app to overclock, you can get it free somewhere in these forums).
Have fun!
slack04 said:
Welcome! Use the rooting video guide to get CWM on your GT10, once you've done that just use the CWM program to flash both ROMs and Kernels.
As for the mods, you don't need them as they are already baked into most of the ROMs. Try Starburst or Task650 for ROMs, And definitely use pershoot's Kernel (and get the SetCPU app to overclock, you can get it free somewhere in these forums).
Have fun!
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Great thanks for the help and direction
Firstly, let me give MASSIVE props to mskip for turning rooting a new baby from a horror into an ice cream on the beach with his S3 Toolkit (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703488).
I began my android journey 2 years ago with the original S1 i9000. It was awesome, I fell in love, i rooted and flashed everything from stock root to cyanogen / darky / MIUI to debusROM. I ended up using MIUI for a while and eventually settled for the most stable ROM - cyanogen 9 (stable version).
I have just bought an SGS3 and face a dilemma. Without custom ROMs, the android (read:samsung) experience if unsatisfactory to say the least. However I need this phone to WORK, so cannot afford flashing buggy ROMs. Cyanogen 10 is only released as a nightly (unstable), and while some people say its fine, others say it doesn't play well with the S3.
I'm looking for a JB ROM that is as stable as a brick ****house and will not give me any issues. This is not a "best rom" thread because that implies subjectivity. This is a binary query, a yes / no statement. Either its stable 10 / 10 or its unstable 1-9 / 10.
I'm leaning towards WanamLite (from what I've read), but would like input on which custom ROMs offer a completely stable experience, with everything working.
Thanks for your replies, thanks for this awesome community, thanks devs, yo.
Cape Town, South Africa
I am a constantly dissatisfied rom slut, and I have tried at least 95% of the roms out there ranging from Samsung based MIUI to CM10.1 and there have only been quite a few that I've really come to like.
On the aosp side, there's CM10.1, which I deeply love. Though, I don't stay on it for longer periods because it has its fair share of bugs. All because of Samsung's unwillingness to give out the sources needed for the exynos SoC.
JellyBam (another aosp rom) is also quite nice because it's a mix of three aosp roms. CM, AOKP and ParanoidAndroid.
On the Sammy side, there's the Omega series. Absolutely wonderful Samsung based rom. Touchwiz isn't as near beautiful as AOSP is, though it's not bug ridden either.
WanamLite is okay, but I like Omega better. Greeks now their stuff.
I'm swaying back and forth between aosp and Samsung like a palm tree on a windy day.
Thanks for the reply. So Omega is like stock, but with extended power menu, more control, etc?
That might be the way to go, even if it is samsung...
I HAVE A BUILD / BASEBAND QUESTION
I am slightly confused as to what is important. My stock details read:
Baseband Version:
I9300XXDLID
Build Number:
JRO03C.I9300XXDLJ1
The baseband is my modem, right? And the build of a rom i flash needs to be similar to what I already have? What if I can't find a custom rom with the same details? Does it not matter?
I don't remember i9000 rom flashing being this complex with regards to build numbers...
jonalexgalaxy said:
Thanks for the reply. So Omega is like stock, but with extended power menu, more control, etc?
That might be the way to go, even if it is samsung...
I HAVE A BUILD / BASEBAND QUESTION
I am slightly confused as to what is important. My stock details read:
Baseband Version:
I9300XXDLID
Build Number:
JRO03C.I9300XXDLJ1
The baseband is my modem, right? And the build of a rom i flash needs to be similar to what I already have? What if I can't find a custom rom with the same details? Does it not matter?
I don't remember i9000 rom flashing being this complex with regards to build numbers...
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Yes, Omega is like stock, though with a black statusbar, blue circular battery icon and some good looking quick toggle icons, plus a lot of mods.
You don't need the rom to match your current setup, so long as the rom you flash is for the i9300; you're good to go.
Omega +1
Lightning fast updates and a ton of options. The largest ROM following cant be wrong.
jinosong said:
Omega +1
Lightning fast updates and a ton of options. The largest ROM following cant be wrong.
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Thanks guys.
busy downloading Omega 44.1 (XXUFMB3) 4.2.1.
Wow.. i remember when roms were 150mb!
Once this is downloaded, what kernel do you suggest? The one that comes with Omega? Also, where can I find a list of modems, and how to i find out which one is good for South Africa?
jonalexgalaxy said:
Thanks guys.
busy downloading Omega 44.1 (XXUFMB3) 4.2.1.
Wow.. i remember when roms were 150mb!
Once this is downloaded, what kernel do you suggest? The one that comes with Omega? Also, where can I find a list of modems, and how to i find out which one is good for South Africa?
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Aosp roms ate around 150 mb
If going with omega 44.1 = stock kernel.
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jonalexgalaxy said:
Thanks for the reply. So Omega is like stock, but with extended power menu, more control, etc?
That might be the way to go, even if it is samsung...
I HAVE A BUILD / BASEBAND QUESTION
I am slightly confused as to what is important. My stock details read:
Baseband Version:
I9300XXDLID
Build Number:
JRO03C.I9300XXDLJ1
The baseband is my modem, right? And the build of a rom i flash needs to be similar to what I already have? What if I can't find a custom rom with the same details? Does it not matter?
I don't remember i9000 rom flashing being this complex with regards to build numbers...
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baseband is your modem......there are two modem threads, one with just modems, and one with modems and their corresponding RIL, I suggest using the latter.
Don't worry about the build, not relevant really.
Follow induction from the thread for installation, and just as a foot note
I advice putting your Rom on the ext sd card, several Roms ask in the installer if you want to do a super wipe prior to installation, this will wipe internal ad, hence the advise! Don't forget to make a nandroid, do a titanium, and most importantly back up your efs with HC-KTool from Play store
Thanks. Please explain what the latter actually is? I've flashed tons of modems in my i9000 days, but never heard of a RIL.
I wish devs always released an Odin-flashable version. Always so much easier.
jonalexgalaxy said:
Thanks. Please explain what the latter actually is? I've flashed tons of modems in my i9000 days, but never heard of a RIL.
I wish devs always released an Odin-flashable version. Always so much easier.
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RIL = Radio Interface Layer, has some carrier specific info as far as I know.
Flashing a modem in recovery is easier than doing it with Odin, but most modems have both versions available
don't go with omega 44.1 if you want a stable rom. it 's based on a samsung 4.2.1 leak and pretty buggy as of what i've heard. Try the 43 which is the latest 4.1.2 based omega.
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+1 for omega 43 using it now and its, well... epic!
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As usual,a best Rom thread in disguise
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Omega 43 w/ PERSEUS kernel. It's an amazing kernel with features like screen calibration and custom cpu governor tweaks.
My screen looks SO MUCH BETTER bc of Perseus. The new calibration profile is beautiful. I can't believe how ugly the S3 screen was compared to now. Finally, I have true whites and blacks.
There are other kernels like Siyah, yank555 and Boeffla. But Perseus is the deepest and most sophisticated.
Also, forget sounds tweaks like Acid and Boeffla. Go straight to MegaBassMods. Other sound mods cancel each other out. MegaBassMods offers no nonsense bass with an EQ.
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This seems like a "best ROM" thread which aren't normally allowed. Everyone has their own opinion and what works for them best. I would look at features and bugs and see what fits you best.