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So, has anybody verified yet if the $539 wifi Xoom at Sam's Club rumor was valid? There's nothing yet on their Web site, and my closest Sam's club is 30 miles away...
My local Sam's Club did not have it at all. And as you said, its not on their site yet.
Yeah, I called around and it's looking like only some selected stores will be carrying the Xoom, maybe the sames ones that are carrying the iPad. None of those are close to me, so I'll be off to Costco today to get my wifi-only (and then return the 3G version once I see that the wifi-only version is decent).
wynand32 said:
So, has anybody verified yet if the $539 wifi Xoom at Sam's Club rumor was valid? There's nothing yet on their Web site, and my closest Sam's club is 30 miles away...
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As it has been said about 100 times, the picture was from a setup store. Its 589 at sams.
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bwcorvus said:
As it has been said about 100 times, the picture was from a setup store. Its 589 at sams.
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Obviously, I hadn't seen it verified that the price at the setup store wouldn't make it into reality, and if that's been verified "100 times" since the wifi Xoom started selling this morning, I'd be amazed. Indeed, my question was about confirmation one way or another about whether or not that price would be the official price, which could only be settled today.
I also haven't seen the wifi Xoom at any Sam's Club stores, period, at any price. So, a good answer would have been, "It's available at some Sam's Clubs, but it's selling for $589." Incidentally, what stores have you seen it at? I called the three within an hour's drive of my house and they all said they won't be carrying it. Apparently, only certain stores might be carrying it (and they weren't sure), probably the limited number of stores that also carry the iPad.
wynand32 said:
Obviously, I hadn't seen it verified that the price at the setup store wouldn't make it into reality, and if that's been verified "100 times" since the wifi Xoom started selling this morning, I'd be amazed. Indeed, my question was about confirmation one way or another about whether or not that price would be the official price, which could only be settled today.
I also haven't seen the wifi Xoom at any Sam's Club stores, period, at any price. So, a good answer would have been, "It's available at some Sam's Clubs, but it's selling for $589." Incidentally, what stores have you seen it at? I called the three within an hour's drive of my house and they all said they won't be carrying it. Apparently, only certain stores might be carrying it (and they weren't sure), probably the limited number of stores that also carry the iPad.
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It was covered on every major place that ran the $539 story that this was a mock store and a mockup potential price, and there was no real indication that any store would actually be selling this low or selling it at all with any widespread availability, especially considering Costco is only selling for $589.
martonikaj said:
It was covered on every major place that ran the $539 story that this was a mock store and a mockup potential price, and there was no real indication that any store would actually be selling this low or selling it at all with any widespread availability, especially considering Costco is only selling for $589.
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Hence my freaking question... You know, to verify or debunk the rumor.
Damn, these forums are frustrating sometimes.
I went to my Sam's Club (Naperville, IL) and they don't even have a date for them to arrive in inventory. The local Costco however, had the big display with cardboard XOOMs with gel case for $589.
wynand32 said:
Hence my freaking question... You know, to verify or debunk the rumor.
Damn, these forums are frustrating sometimes.
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Exactly what I was saying... No one has been able to confirm the price or availability. Not sure what else you want people to tell you. I was simply informing you that the first poster isn't incorrect, it really has been said a million times that this is a mockup price.
I don't think that meeting informative answers with snarkiness is getting you anywhere. If you've read up on any of the articles that this was reported in when it first came out (been a while now) you'll see that there really isn't any information on the Sam's Club price or release. The only response you're gonna get is this unless you contact a store and get a concrete answer.
I was waiting on Sam's myself but with Amazon being tax free and free shipping, it works out to almost the same as Sam's price+tax.
The Sam's Club in Kenosha WI did not have it either, nor could he tell me if and when to expect it. I wound up buying one at the BB up there since they offer 18 months same as cash, and sales tax is half of Illinois.
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG
Motorola released earnings today...
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/28/mot...xoom-tablets-shipped-increase-in-net-revenue/
Glad to see the analysts were wrong. If Moto shaves a little off the price is think they'll fly off the shelves.
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ya, 450-500 would really compete with the transformer, esp when all the people get to best buy and see its sold out
DroidHam said:
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG
Motorola released earnings today...
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/28/mot...xoom-tablets-shipped-increase-in-net-revenue/
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Actually you are wrong. They shipped 250,000, they did not sell 250,000.
almostinsane said:
Actually you are wrong. They shipped 250,000, they did not sell 250,000.
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Actually, that's money in their pocket, they sold 250k. Verizon and brick and mortars are the ones who haven't sold 250k.
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Actually you are wrong. They shipped 250,000, they did not sell 250,000.
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You don't quite understand the concept as it applied to a public company releasing quarterly results. Why are you so intent on pooping on these threads? Does it piss you off so much that xoom sales weren't as bad as the apple slavelords demanded you to believe?
Glad to see the numbers reflect reality. The wifi xoom is sold out in retail stores here in st. Louis. Had to order it online
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seriously, shipped or sold, every store in Montréal has sold all xooms and accessories since day one...
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You don't quite understand the concept as it applied to a public company releasing quarterly results. Why are you so intent on pooping on these threads? Does it piss you off so much that xoom sales weren't as bad as the apple slavelords demanded you to believe?
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I don't think you need to have an "apple slavelord" to see that the article that the OP linked to says in the TITLE that:
"Motorola Reports 250,000 XOOM Tablets Shipped"
and then the OP creates a thread that says:
"250,000 Xooms sold, NOT 25,000
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG"
Its called reading comprehension. And yes there is a major difference between shipped and sold. If Motorola SOLD 250k tablets, then there would be significantly more in stores ready to be sold and various retailers would have to adjust their purchase orders from Motorola to compensate for that demand. If they SHIPPED 250k tablets, stores might have only sold 100k meaning that future orders for new Xoom's from Motorola will be slower as retailers have overstocked the item and can shift inventory from one location to another to compensate. That is why there are two separate words and they are not interchangeable.
Also, the entire point of this thread and especially dumb comments like yours, is to prove that the Xoom is popular among consumers. This article does nothing to help prove that point, as it gives ZERO sales figures. Who cares if Motorola shipped 5 million Xooms if consumers only bought 50 of them. I don't really understand why you would even want to bring up an issue like this as you will never "win" against Apple and the entire conversation is stupid to begin with. Who cares how popular your device is among consumers?
I have no doubts that Xoom sales are good, but they are right. They shipped 250,000 units, that doesn't mean that 250,000 were sold to consumers--which is the important number to note.
Again, no doubts that Xoom sales are great, but jumping on a guy who is just pointing out a fact, calling him an Apple fanboy, etc, really not necessary.
Random comment to help re-leave the tension: Tomorrow's sales are yesterday's sales today.
To be honest, why do we care how many sell? It's not like Motorola will stop supporting the
Xoom if nobdoy buys more. Still it's nice to know they had some sort of confidence in this device.
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Smokexz said:
To be honest, why do we care how many sell? It's not like Motorola will stop supporting the
Xoom if nobdoy buys more. Still it's nice to know they had some sort of confidence in this device.
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People like to justify their Xoom purchase. They wanna prove its selling well and that their purchase was good. They wanna know that everything's gonna be okay with their Xoom, so they're going to want to prove that other people are buying it too.
muyoso said:
I don't think you need to have an "apple slavelord" to see that the article that the OP linked to says in the TITLE that:
"Motorola Reports 250,000 XOOM Tablets Shipped"
and then the OP creates a thread that says:
"250,000 Xooms sold, NOT 25,000
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG"
Its called reading comprehension. And yes there is a major difference between shipped and sold. If Motorola SOLD 250k tablets, then there would be significantly more in stores ready to be sold and various retailers would have to adjust their purchase orders from Motorola to compensate for that demand. If they SHIPPED 250k tablets, stores might have only sold 100k meaning that future orders for new Xoom's from Motorola will be slower as retailers have overstocked the item and can shift inventory from one location to another to compensate. That is why there are two separate words and they are not interchangeable.
Also, the entire point of this thread and especially dumb comments like yours, is to prove that the Xoom is popular among consumers. This article does nothing to help prove that point, as it gives ZERO sales figures. Who cares if Motorola shipped 5 million Xooms if consumers only bought 50 of them. I don't really understand why you would even want to bring up an issue like this as you will never "win" against Apple and the entire conversation is stupid to begin with. Who cares how popular your device is among consumers?
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They technically are sales figures for motorola, but they are not sales figures for verizon, costco, and any of the other countless retailers out there. At no point did the person you respond to say anything about apple, all he said were that people claiming only 25k had been sold were inaccurate, and he is right. This does in fact prove that the xoom has sold better than expected because those retailers don't keep that many units sitting in storage, and they certainly wouldn't keep ordering the tablet if it wasn't selling. I know for a fact that the tablet was fairly popular simply because they sold out in all the retail locations near me. I had to drive nearly an hour and half away just to find a best buy that had them in stock. This was the second week the xoom was out. Anyway you can get all bent out of shape if you want but the xoom was not as big as a flop as you seem to want it to be.
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Motorola ships 250k to vendors = sales for Motorola, no?
The link was regarding Motorola's sales, which were 250,000. "Shipping them to vendors" is the same as selling them.
I never once talked about how many best buy, walmart, or any other store sold.
I said they shipped 250k, which means they sold 250k.
Did I miss something here? Why is this hard to comprehend?
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Motorola ships 250k to vendors = sales for Motorola, no?
The link was regarding Motorola's sales, which were 250,000. "Shipping them to vendors" is the same as selling them.
I never once talked about how many best buy, walmart, or any other store sold.
I said they shipped 250k, which means they sold 250k.
Did I miss something here? Why is this hard to comprehend?
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Some people just don't understand how a supply chain works, especially a J.I.T. one (typically what the US has is J.I.T.)
JIT = Just In Time. Most if not all any more, Major Retailers work off Just In Time, meaning the only stock they truly carry in store is what is sitting on the shelves, or what is soon to be on the shelves. This also means a stores warehouses, are nothing more than emptying Tucks A, B, C and D's contents into trucks E,F,G, and H. There is no physical inventory of anything, it is almost literally straight from manufacturer to sales floor.
JIT does several things:
1) In the event of an issue with a product (recall), the retailer has a very limited inventory to rope in.
2) Reduces Cost
3) Reduces storage space (See #2)
4) Reduces the volume a store actually purchases at one time (Again see #2, less items in the clearance bin) This also makes their financial figures looks a ton better due to the lower over head.
Motorola doesn't front the product to the retailers and say "Hey, pay me when you sell all these" - no, they have to recoup production cost - which means they probably have a net15-net30 contract with most retailers (meaning, 15-30 days to pay or your cut off the supply flow) regardless of how many units the retailer actually sold.
Now it is true that we don't know how many of these are in the hands of customers actually being used. Only Big G and Moto probably have any clue about that number. I would venture to guess, because retail stores don't keep "Stock" piled in the back - most of them are in the hands of customers.
I work at a retailer and that is generally correct. You only want enough stock to get you through until the next shipment, ideally. There are times you load up, when demand is expected to be high and the manufacturer has had issues keeping the supply chan full-looks at nintendo.
You certainly don't want to have a lot of an unpopular product so when sales are unknown you go conservative. Our you end up like the nintendo 3ds in the us. It should have sold well, did not and now you have a crap ton of these things you can't give away.
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tumbes20000 said:
Our you end up like the nintendo 3ds in the us. It should have sold well, did not and now you have a crap ton of these things you can't give away.
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I would take one for 1/4 the price....#justSayin
Silly Nintendo
muyoso said:
I don't think you need to have an "apple slavelord" to see that the article that the OP linked to says in the TITLE that:
"Motorola Reports 250,000 XOOM Tablets Shipped"
and then the OP creates a thread that says:
"250,000 Xooms sold, NOT 25,000
So those haters saying 25,000 Xooms were sold were WRONG"
Its called reading comprehension. And yes there is a major difference between shipped and sold. If Motorola SOLD 250k tablets, then there would be significantly more in stores ready to be sold and various retailers would have to adjust their purchase orders from Motorola to compensate for that demand. If they SHIPPED 250k tablets, stores might have only sold 100k meaning that future orders for new Xoom's from Motorola will be slower as retailers have overstocked the item and can shift inventory from one location to another to compensate. That is why there are two separate words and they are not interchangeable.
Also, the entire point of this thread and especially dumb comments like yours, is to prove that the Xoom is popular among consumers. This article does nothing to help prove that point, as it gives ZERO sales figures. Who cares if Motorola shipped 5 million Xooms if consumers only bought 50 of them. I don't really understand why you would even want to bring up an issue like this as you will never "win" against Apple and the entire conversation is stupid to begin with. Who cares how popular your device is among consumers?
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Actually, to add a bit of circumstantial evidence, which I'm aware doesn't mean much, there are a lot of people that know what the Xoom is. I have my Xoom with me at all times, it's my data device, I got rid of my Droid and moved to a dumbphone. Anyways, everywhere I go, people recognize instantly it's not an iPad and usually ask me if it's a Xoom. People are actually interested in it and I've had many chances to demonstrate it's capabilities to people. There's a lot of interest, even if it doesn't translate directly to sales yet. I feel like the attention I get with my Xoom is likened to the attention the early adopters of the iPad got.
Also, you've not addressed my previous post.
The problem is, he didn't just state it in this thread, he stated it in the thread I started before earnings were released.
And it isn't about reading comprehension. It is about understanding how a public company reports. Apple gets to say that they sold every i-whatever that was shipped to an app,e store because apple gets to control how an apple store reports what it is selling. Motorola does not get to control what best buy states, as they are separate companies. Best buy will not allow motorola to ship more xooms than best buy is able to sell unless best buy is able to ship back unsold inventory. Motorola is a tier one producer, and it will not enter into retail agreements that are contingent on mass adoption - they don't need to.
When motorola ships a product, it is a sale for motorola. When the entity motorola shipped to agreed to the shipment, it is because that entity has projected the entire inventory to be sold at some point in the very near future.
Motorola is precluded by FINRA from overstating sales figures in quarterly reports. Motorola cannot count shipped units as sold if the inventory shipped is not sold or accounted for as sold. If moto says shipped, consider it as sold. And while I doubt you will take my word as gospel, just know that my job in the real world depends upon my ability to understand what a company is saying in quarterly reports.
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Anyone have a clue if this is in response to the TF 2 coming out in October Allegedly?
Update: Looks like it was a typo. It is now $394.99. Originally it was $349.99. Sorry guys.
trevoryour said:
Anyone have a clue if this is in response to the TF 2 coming out in October Allegedly?
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I think it's a response to the US crumbling economy and spirraling out of contro debt because of lame successive governments who have pandered to non tax increases despite needing tax increases.
When I go there it shows $394. And no, they arent going to be discounting something for an unannounced product that might come out in a few months.
I see $394.99 also. Am I missing something?
When an item is available from multiple sources, Amazon will switch among them when supplies are tight. I believe they first try to fulfill from their own store, Amazon.com, LLC, and switch to other stores when Amazon.com, LLC does not have stock. These other stores may offer a different price than Amazon. The downside is you do not buy from Amazon.Com, LLC you are subject the return and replacement conditions of the store which may not include free returns, 30-day returns, etc.
LOL, looks like it was a mistake. I just checked the site again and it is now $394.99. It was previously $349.99. Must have been a typo. Looks like we missed our window.
I see a lot of people in the UK ordering the Note from the german amazon site, what places are people in the United States ordering the phone from and for what price? I wanted the nexus prime but this looks like it may be an overall better device, not to mention its available now and has a sd card slot which I wanted.
Negri Electronics, ~$800 US with 2nd day shipping and $35 off promo cert.
I initially wanted a prime too, but it was more for the hardware than the software (which the Note will get eventually), and the note's got better goods.
I'm always wary of ordering from Negri, plemix..etc. I just wait for it to get to Amazon.com or Newegg.com at least they have return policies on the devices. If you order from one of those NY web retailers your pretty much SOL on returns.
looks like its on backorder on negri, I thought I saw people paying $700 for the phone? I would love for it to show up on amazon.com
Handtec, paid $723, they shipped it overnight
PolishDude said:
looks like its on backorder on negri, I thought I saw people paying $700 for the phone? I would love for it to show up on amazon.com
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Yes and also on BO in mobilecityonline
inurb said:
I'm always wary of ordering from Negri, plemix..etc. I just wait for it to get to Amazon.com or Newegg.com at least they have return policies on the devices. If you order from one of those NY web retailers your pretty much SOL on returns.
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Negri has a return policy right on their website...
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I love Negri...bought 3 high end phones from them over the last 3 years. Not a single problem with returns, etc. Sorry I waited a day late to get my order in.
I found 2 places locally (Chicago area) who "said" they are getting them by Friday...we'll see!
I just bought through handtec @ $776 Canadian. US and Canadian dollars are pretty close right now, might be like $769 USD. 2-4 day shipping with Fedex to North America. They are getting more stock and shipping Friday the 4th, apparently.
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I just ordered mine last Friday, Oct 28th from Unlocked Mobiles.com and they shipped the same day. Total Cost £504.15 = $807.72! Very good about tracking and notification. Tracking shows my phone in New York, I should have it by Friday this week!
I ordered from Negri on Monday, its suppose to be in texas tomorrow. But the guy stated it was shipped Tuesday but did not have tracking number. But I kept asking and it looks like he was on back order but shipped today for tomorrow delivery. Even though I paid for 2 day delivery so he kept to his promise of the date for delivery.
Spent more than I wanted but thats fine if shows up. I had previously ordered with Expansys and they played a lot of games with my order so I canceled with them and went to Negri. But I just got an email from Expansys stating they have them in stock ready to ship. But somehow I do not believe them. There were others that received units from them. Use at your own risk.
Negri seems to be on the up and up, As well it seems there is one person that I kept dealing with on chat and email. So it might be a single guy running the site. So far he has kept to his promise and that means a lot when trusting a unknown website.
inurb said:
I'm always wary of ordering from Negri, plemix..etc. I just wait for it to get to Amazon.com or Newegg.com at least they have return policies on the devices. If you order from one of those NY web retailers your pretty much SOL on returns.
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They have return policies, that said I've never used them before, so I've never had to return anything to them. Generally I'd agree with you, the big web stores feel better, but lots of people here have used negri before with positive feedback.
Handtec seems to have the cheapest price I've seen. Anyone order stuff from them? Any bad experiences?
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5504/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
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Handtec seems to have the cheapest price I've seen. Anyone order stuff from them? Any bad experiences?
http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5504/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked-
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i ordered from handtech yeterday...hoping for nov 4th ship date.
I just received this e-mail from CNET stating that the wifi Xoom is selling for $349.99 + $4.99 s/h on Daily Steals (new, not refurb).
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-57319545-58/get-a-10-inch-motorola-xoom-wi-fi-tablet-for-$349.99/?tag=nl.e796
http://www.dailysteals.com/
YEP! Just ordered from there! Excited to finally replace this Crappy Ipad!
Want to use the xoom with google navigation as I do on my Evo..
Any tips or tricks to do to it?
Nice, i just paid 345 for a like new one on ebay. I would have believed it was new if it wasn't told to me though so I don't feel too bad
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Has anyone received the email about shipment yet? I've read bad things about dailysteals...
From feedback on bargain sites and from personal experience, it usually takes about 2-3 weeks for delivery. Since these are liquidation merchants, returns are difficult. If you have issues, you'd likely have to deal with your payment provider or the manufacturer directly. They aren't "bad," as long as you know who you're dealing with.
IMO, if the Xoom is what you want, the $350 refurb from Walmart is a better option. The 15-day electronics returns period for many B&M stores has been extended to Jan 2012. Walmart's return policy is liberal.
But if every dollar counts, then the Xoom refurb is $330+$5 ship on Woot today. These are normal prices going forward for Teg2 tabs, so don't get excited and take your time. The price differential between these and new tablets (the Asus Prime or Xoom 2) isn't that great.
http://www.woot.com/