[Q] T-mobile Rom upgrade 3.14 HD2 - feedback? - HD2 General

T-Mobile UK have released the v3.14.110 rom upgrade for the HD2. I am currently using the V1.72.110.4 ROM. I have seen a number of older comments about the upgrade but I would welcome any recent feedback from people who have just upgraded. Is it worthwhile, are the changes significant enough, does it improve radio/battery performance and what sort of things don't work as well as before?
Thanks in advance for your help.

I do not recommend to update
I've recently updated from German T-Mobile 1.72.111.4 to 3.14.111.1 GER.
Because I own my device only for a few weeks, I can describe only a few visible changes now.
Unfortunately, I have carry out no improvements. Only the following disadvantages:
Solid black Sense tab backgrounds instead of shaded grey ones. Read on »
The touch screen seems to react too much sensitively.
Scrolling in Sense is much more sluggish. I don't like the look and feel at all.
Older versions (?) of Digital Compass or Google Streets (I'm missing the 'Destination:' button below compass)
3 megabyte less free mass storage (208 MB instead of 211 MB ;-)
The wrong 404 page is not shown any more if you stay offline in Opera. But Opera without a client area behaves unstable.
The control panel applet "Screen" is missing (Touchscreen calibration, Activate ClearType).

From your comments and others that I have read, there seems to be very few positive reasons to upgrade. 3.14 seems to have a number of bugs and loss of some important functionality. I'll stay with 1.72.
Many thanks

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My phone moves slawly

i have Flashed my rom with the ROM Black diamond 1.3
i have notice that my phone moves slawly
if i jump from option into the others he gives very very slawly reaction
is there is solution to make it faster ?
or new rom ?
thanks for the help
I know I'll catch a little flak for this, but here goes:
I do not recommend loading WM6 on your Wizard.
I know, I know. It's fun, etc. to hack your phone, and I'm not saying don't hack it. Load different builds of WM5, and you'll see some dramatic increases in speed. Most WM6 builds (remember, I said MOST) will slow down your wizard. The bulkier they are, the more likely you'll see a slow-down. The processor in a Wizard just isn't that fast, compared to most phones that have come with or been officially updated to WM6. HTC's official stance was to pass over the Wizard for the upgrade, in spite of the clamor of Wizard owners.
I've had considerable luck just streamlining my Wizard's WM5 by turning off lots of useless features (menu animation? WTF?) and by overclocking it, but not too aggressively.
At the end of the day, it's really up to you, and there'll be lots of people who disagree with my position.
BTW, here's what you can do with a streamlined WM5, a few freeware apps (rlToday, Mortscripts, PaulyA.com Vista Dialer, etc.), and one pay-for app (Wisbar):
Hello thanks so much
Atlest you did answered i really appreciate your help
if i back to the WM5 can i still connect with wirless?

[iPAQ-91x June 2009] BR is back! WM6.1 (21042) and WM6.5 (21815) updates

I've released a new build - 21820 - fixes most problems. Get it!
News:
Montecristo's fix for WM6.5 hardware keyboard issues.
Coming in July version of WM6.5:
- updated to build 21820
- keyx's suggested A2DP fix
- Montecristo's keyboard fix
Hey y'all,
Bet you didn't think I'd get this done before my earlier WM6.5 ROM expires at the end of the month, eh? WM6.5 build 21815 is the newest leaked build and is RTM quality; it has no known expiry timebomb.
I present to you the following June 2009 releases for the iPAQ 910c/912c/914c Business Messenger:
WM6.1 21042br0609 (cooked last-minute without testing - anyone?)
WM6.5 21815br0609
Both ROMs feature HP's newest firmware base, meaning increased max volume and other fixes. I have removed the following OEM junk:
- Cyberon Voice Commander
- iPAQ Tips, Help & Support
- HP Photosmart Mobile (and screensaver)
- Snapfish uploader
- HP custom IE homepage
- HP Today theme (and other customizations)
- Google Maps (old)
- Goolge Search (old)
Also the WM6.5 releases remove:
- iPAQ DataConnect
(...since the new WM6.5 AutoConnect feature does the same thing)
Both ROMs contain the following little additions:
- NumBattery
- GPS Viewer
- Backlight Controller 0.9.5.2
Once I get around to making some new OEM packages for my favourite freeware apps, I'll bundle those in the "m" series next month:
WM6.1 21042br0709m "motherload" - pending
WM6.5 21815br0709m "motherload" - pending
INSTRUCTIONS FOR FLASHING:
1. Get a microSD card sized 2 GB or lower (SDHC won't work) and format it with regular FAT filesystem. Copy my FLASH.DIO to the root of the card. Insert card into your device.
2. Put your device into SDLoader mode by holding VOLUP+OK(button on right side) and pressing RESET. Make sure your battery has a decent charge (over 50%) and isn't connected to any USB charge or sync cable (or else your device will just go into RUU mode).
3. Watch the magic... SDLoader will check the file integrity, flash to your device ROM, do a clean reboot (can take a minute longer than usual) and then go into the "Welcome to Windows Mobile, tap here to continue" stuff.
4. If you run into any problems, repeat steps 1 through 3 with a FLASH.DIO that has worked before (i.e. you can make one from HP factory ROM update using Paloma's instructions posted here)
CREDITS
- Keyx for kitchen tools and early guidance
- PPCGeeks for 21815 sys and xip
- HP for the oem
- many others on xda-devs and ppcgeeks for their releases, tutorials, etc.
DONATION?
- I've never made a donation on xda-devs
- I'm not interested in a donation from xda-devs
- I cook mainly for my own use and interest
- I share what I cook, because sharing is easy
- I don't take orders
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wooohhoooo.
i'm downloading your 6.5 now..
thx very much for your efforts bro
"Bet you didn't think I'd get this done before my earlier WM6.5 ROM expires at the end of the month, eh?" that will be me~ lol (thought you must be busy with sth. else recently
welcome back, god Ben!!!
just flashed Monte's rom yesterday, so maybe flash your one bit later~
the 91x is truly becoming unbeatable among all the qwerty wm phones!!! rock on!!!
WoW!
Great job! I'm using your WM 6.5
I've just a little problem with the Titanium Weather, doesn't work :S
No weather icons at all. Any suggestion about that?
just running on your 6.5 now..
first impression? damn good!! (it also my 1st experience using 6.5)
oke here's some glitch i found :
-everytime i type using keyboard there is some delay in somewhat the same like i type using a keypad on my 610.. and it's kind a annoying to me coz, sometime if type an email address(or a sentence) after i type @(or a space) and i continue to type without waiting the half-underscore disappear, the cursor came back again to the first word of the sentence (or after the @) when the half-underscore is disappear. for example i always typing [email protected] but this problem giving me result [email protected] (if i type mail fast enough).
- and the capslock or function indicator near the keyboard is not showing at all
- the device is restarting my itself. here's the condition : i'm pushing the cpu clock to 624mhz (PHM), using wcdma network, and loading google using IE6.. and the device is going off...
another condition : every setting is normal, i watched a movie on coreplayer, and got an incoming call... and the device went off instead of freeze..
but despite all the problems above, i still enjoying your 6.5, but the device is becoming less productive...
ohoh,, can you give me a solution how to change screen orientation without restarting the device?
and once again i'm thanking you very very much for you Ben..
Gibla said:
WoW!
Great job! I'm using your WM 6.5
I've just a little problem with the Titanium Weather, doesn't work :S
No weather icons at all. Any suggestion about that?
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I couldn't get it to work either, and thought it was something I was doing. Hmm. I'll look into that.
AbsolutBenz said:
just running on your 6.5 now..
first impression? damn good!! (it also my 1st experience using 6.5)
oke here's some glitch i found :
-everytime i type using keyboard there is some delay in somewhat the same like i type using a keypad on my 610.. and it's kind a annoying to me coz, sometime if type an email address(or a sentence) after i type @(or a space) and i continue to type without waiting the half-underscore disappear, the cursor came back again to the first word of the sentence (or after the @) when the half-underscore is disappear. for example i always typing [email protected] but this problem giving me result [email protected] (if i type mail fast enough).
- and the capslock or function indicator near the keyboard is not showing at all
- the device is restarting my itself. here's the condition : i'm pushing the cpu clock to 624mhz (PHM), using wcdma network, and loading google using IE6.. and the device is going off...
another condition : every setting is normal, i watched a movie on coreplayer, and got an incoming call... and the device went off instead of freeze..
but despite all the problems above, i still enjoying your 6.5, but the device is becoming less productive...
ohoh,, can you give me a solution how to change screen orientation without restarting the device?
and once again i'm thanking you very very much for you Ben..
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The keyboard is buggy for me too sometimes; I have no idea why. These OEM packages are taken directly from the new HP update. Has anyone experienced this behaviour on any other 91x roms? I also can't explain the capslock/numlock indicator... it is a DLL that I am still including just like the stock ROM, but maybe it also relies on stuff from the HP Customization package?
Device restarting itself... that has not happened to me and I've been running this ROM for a few days now. Are you sure your battery connection isn't loose?
Can anyone else confirm these issues and/or confirm if they are present in Montecristo's ROMs? I think he tends to take his SYS directly from the keyx kitchen, whereas I'm usually porting a release from Da_G or somebody else on ppcgeeks.
Hi,
I'm using your ROM, I haven't that problem!! Keyboard is normal!
I solved the problem with the weather, was a server problem with accu weather!!
hey BR,
Yeah, the keyboard bug is present in Mc's ROM too ... I'll give yours a try, I like your style!
Cheers,
John
bourkej said:
hey BR,
Yeah, the keyboard bug is present in Mc's ROM too ... I'll give yours a try, I like your style!
Cheers,
John
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Thanks. I just tried out mine and the keyboard was fine... but I've experienced that from time to time, even on the HP Factory roms. Maybe HP still needs to work on their keyboard driver a bit?
I am glad you've returned! OEM hp which building are you using?
Montecristo said:
I am glad you've returned! OEM hp which building are you using?
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I'm using the OEM extracted from HP's most recent ROM update, BIOS 1.20.09 (21 May 2009)
...but I removed a number of files and registry entries to take out most of the HP branded stuff. Feel free to use osnbtool to extract my ported XIP from 21815br0609 if you are planning to build your own 21815.
Hi Ben!
I'm looking forward to trying your WM 6.5 build for the first time (first time using a cooked ROM, actually!) on my 914c, but I noticed that you mentioned using BIOS 1.20.09. When I clicked through to the link to the HP website, this was listed as being compatible only with the 910c, with SKU ID FB168AA#ABA.
My SKU ID is FB052AA#ABB, would installing this ROM cause any problems? The latest OEM firmware HP have for my model is 1.01.01 dated 28th April 2009, yours is more recent but I'm not sure if my phone will run with it.
Matt
carrige said:
Hi Ben!
I'm looking forward to trying your WM 6.5 build for the first time (first time using a cooked ROM, actually!) on my 914c, but I noticed that you mentioned using BIOS 1.20.09. When I clicked through to the link to the HP website, this was listed as being compatible only with the 910c, with SKU ID FB168AA#ABA.
My SKU ID is FB052AA#ABB, would installing this ROM cause any problems? The latest OEM firmware HP have for my model is 1.01.01 dated 28th April 2009, yours is more recent but I'm not sure if my phone will run with it.
Matt
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I'm not sure... but I think you should try, since I'm only updating the OS portion of the ROM anyway. If things don't work out for some reason, you can always flash back to your own Factory ROM using either DNW or the SD Loader (Paloma has posted on this); somebody reportedly flashed a 61x ROM to their 91x and was able to get it working again that way.
My assumption thus far is that there are no hardware differences between the 910c, 912c and 914c that require specific OS roms.
Okay, I'll try it out later on tonight and post here if/when I manage. Thanks!
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benjaminries said:
My assumption thus far is that there are no hardware differences between the 910c, 912c and 914c that require specific OS roms.
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Hmm. 1.20.xx is only available from hp for the 910c. For the 914c the latest update is 1.01.01. The legend is the same for both updates: "fixes keyboard lockup issue and audio quality"
BTW, Montecristo does not recommend to use the 1.20.xx version of his ROM, he still uses 1.01.01 (which seems to be more compatible).
He uses SYS folder from keyx 614 kitchen but boot.rgu from HP 1.01.01.
Once more, if you want to fully update your phone (Modem part, Bootloader, etc) go to this thread, works fine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517094
It's great BR is back in town for more cooking!
I am still figuring out how to modify the hardware keyboard layout using the registry. No success. Only AEKmap (ae.inc.ru) seems to help...
hi
first I must say tnx 4 the rom and 4 your work
I have tested your rom and I have some issues
1 I-go8.3 will not load up (stop after installation –need sr 2 releases but will not load at any way)
2 keyboard, have issue unlike anything I have seen
sometimes if u type a dot then a letter the cursor will go back one step
(I think there is like t9 dll or something that gets in the way)
3 rom is real nice (good looking ) but a lot slower if compared 2 Montecristo
expired rom (u have more apps/plugins but looks like it is more then apps difference )
4 sometimes rom freeze
5 sometime tmail will not open and u will get sounds like stuck recording (DJ iPAQ) sr will stop this sounds and then u can enter tmail o.k.
6 I use opera mini as main explorer don’t know way but u cannot log into forum (like xda …) at all website I have tested user name will be o.k. but password will not enter the field (stay blank)
What I must point out is that radio connection and auto data setup is great
igo and opera mini are important apps 4 me
do u have a fix 4 this issue or know a way….?
Tnx 4 the rom I like it
BR,
6.5 is running smooth, thanks! I have tested every 6.5 release out there and unlike Erezyad I haven't noticed major speed differences between them. My 914c is heavily used for both business and private.
I like this release a lot as it is the most vanilla, neutral and well balanced.
Thanks again,
John
EREZYAD said:
hi
first I must say tnx 4 the rom and 4 your work
I have tested your rom and I have some issues
1 I-go8.3 will not load up (stop after installation –need sr 2 releases but will not load at any way)
2 keyboard, have issue unlike anything I have seen
sometimes if u type a dot then a letter the cursor will go back one step
(I think there is like t9 dll or something that gets in the way)
3 rom is real nice (good looking ) but a lot slower if compared 2 Montecristo
expired rom (u have more apps/plugins but looks like it is more then apps difference )
4 sometimes rom freeze
5 sometime tmail will not open and u will get sounds like stuck recording (DJ iPAQ) sr will stop this sounds and then u can enter tmail o.k.
6 I use opera mini as main explorer don’t know way but u cannot log into forum (like xda …) at all website I have tested user name will be o.k. but password will not enter the field (stay blank)
What I must point out is that radio connection and auto data setup is great
igo and opera mini are important apps 4 me
do u have a fix 4 this issue or know a way….?
Tnx 4 the rom I like it
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I have no idea what the issue with i-go and opera mini is; I don't have i-go but will test opera mini. It is java (as you know) and should be more or less isolated from the OS, so that's really weird.
The keyboard issues... might possibly be a result of me using a 910c-specific OEM base while you have a 912 or 914, but I doubt it. I haven't experienced the jumpy cursor lately, but I can tell you that I used to get it once and a while, even on the default HP factory ROM. Montecristo and I both use the keyboard driver/files supplied by HP, so I don't know what the problem could be. Personally, I suspect that we're encountering a physical hardware defect in these units - wherein errant d-pad keypresses are being registered when you press other keys sometimes. Try disabling word completion and word suggestions - I've found that improves performance a lot.
I'm not familiar with the ipaq dj (what is that?) and the tmail problems you describe.
As for the overall speed of the ROM, you are right that I have included almost all SYS packages from the generic WM6.5 installation (except for Autoupdate, SampleMusic, SQM, WelcomeCenter and WindowsLive). I think keyx and Montecristo (who just uses whatever SYS is in keyx's kitchen, I think) omit Enterprise, IPSECVPN and Transcriber. I kept those in because they actually seem useful for some people. However, I think my ROM has a bit less of HP's junkware than the others'. To me the biggest impact on speed is free RAM, and you can keep nearly 60 MB free on my build if you terminate running programs.
I have considered releasing an "l" series (as in "lite") that omits Enterprise, Entertainment, IPSECVPN, Themes, Transcriber, Skybox, Skymarket and Widgets... it would be ruthlessly pared down. But then again, I don't take donations and I'm not really interested in a whole lot of cooking of ROMs that I wouldn't personally use. I expect WM6.5 to be a bit slower than WM6.1 because of all the added glitz.
Bottom line: other than fixing bugs that can be reproduced by others (and aren't just due to the OEM drivers or OS, which are beyond my control), I'm not going to compete with Montecristo for "fastest ROM" or whatever. If the 910c vs. 912 and 914 OEM base thing turns out to be a big deal, maybe Monte will cook for 912/4 and I'll stick to the 910c.
Thanks for the feedback!

Having a couple of questions about the HD2 - also considering flashing!

Hi there.
I have owned the HD2 for about a month. I find it difficult to say for sure whether I like it or not - it diffently has a lot of both pros and cons. But since I am not looking to give a review of the device I just have a few pressing questions that I have not been able to find the answer to while doing alot of reading in these greats forums.
1. I have problems with both stability and lag. Could a possible ROM switch to say "energy (the newest version)" fix that?
2. Are the custom ROMS considered better than the stock ones - or is it mainly just because it is fun to be able to completely mess around with your phone?
3. If I choose to switch to energy's latest ROM is there some way for me to get my Danish T9 dictonary to work on the ROM - I have not been able to find the answer to that simple question while reading through those almost terrifyingly many pages contained in the thread for the energy ROM!!!! Found something about Chinese or Korean input... not helpful!
4. A side question: Is there a way to disable the function in HTC''s sms program that makes it able to input a different letter than the one pressed? Say you I have have pressed "e" but accidently released it on "r" making it type "r" instead of "e" - annoying the hell out of me.
Right now I am using my HD2 together with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.4 - the change of interface alone has seemed to reduce lag - but of course the Mobile Shell is not as "connected" as HTC's Sense interface, and I miss my music player and twitter integration :/
Hope you are not going to get a stroke or brain bleed because I did not RTFM enough
Thank you for your time reading this
From my experience with cooked ROMs, it seems like some are just as stable if not more so than stock ROMs whereas others can have more problems... You'll just have to try a few and see which one you like.
Cooked ROMs are nearly always faster than stock and they usually have much more up to date versions of the various system components and programs.
The main reason I decided to flash a cooked ROM was to get the updated TMOUS camera drivers which fixes the overexposed effect that made the LED flash more or less useless. I'm using Dutty's V6 Hybrid at the moment and it uses a different bluetooth stack. I can't tell you why but it does make music sound better (when using a bluetooth headset obviously) and it's much faster than my old 1.44 stock ROM...
I hope those examples show why cooked ROMs can be so amazing. Just be careful not to flash a stock ROM with the latest SPL from your microSD card or you'll be stuck with it...
I prefer tweaking the default rom. This is not to say that the cooks don't do a good job i just prefer not to get too extreme with the custimization. I do tweak the registry and i have installed a different spl and updated the radio. It's also been overclocked and so far i'm very happy with it (at the end of week 2 of ownership). The tweaks and the overclock combined with the 3D gfx driver that you can get from here have solved the lag and speed issues with all programs except for the messaging application.
I've also installed several applications including SRS WoW HD, a WM 6.1 style task manager, WIFI remote access and phm regedit. I've also updated the facebook application and dropped a copy of office mobile 2010 on.
At the end of the day the choice is yours. My phone is as stable as a rock right now and never crashes although i must say it wasn't but i found, like most people, that the problems were caused by a particular program. In my case it was a slightly dodgey remote desktop client that it turns out i didn't need anyway. It's also feels as responsive as my very expensive desktop pc (specs below).
The issue you mention with text messaging could be solved by decreasing the sensitivity of the touch interface or (and this is what i do) rotate the phone to landscape mode and type like that. It makes the keyboard wider and a bit easier to use. You could also get a foldable bluetooth keyboard.
What route you take is entirely your choice so if you think a custom rom is the right route to take go for it. There are some many out there your not going to be short of choice so it may be worth exploring more than just energy's roms.
Thank you very much for your answers
Well, I predict that if choose to flash some custom ROM, that i will spending alot of time trying out the different ROMs of the different chefs, but then again, i do not feel completely satisfied with the way my device is running now.
I have actually recently flashed back with a stock ROM... Tried to install some different radios so that I would get better reception, but I was no different. Plus i didn't think flashing radios was as "dangerous" as flashing ROMs How can i check if my device has been "locked"?
I also think that I have narrowed down the problem with the lag (not the instability) to when the facebook integration of my contact is downloading new info (every 2 hours right?), lags horribly for about one minute throughout the whole menu, actually, every time it accesses the internet to either update tweeter, face or check for email, it lags!
I am hoping these things can be overcome by flashing a new ROM, if that is even possible for me now :S
If you have reinstalled a stock rom you will probably need to install an unlocked spl again. To do this you'll need to get a copy of hspl or hspl2 (look in the rom development board). flashing the radio is less danagerous to a certain extent but i advise you have look for customruu there is a version that is configured not to wipe the device after install. I would post a link but i'm out and about and all my resources are on my desktop.
The lag you experience with the facebook/twitter integration i haven't experienced as i don't use it but i do have an exchange server that is configured with direct push and i don't have any lag with that. It may be worth you looking into the 2 tweaks sticky threads and implementing some of them. I would also suggest that you have a look for the 3D gfx driver and netrippers LCS which will allow you to disable the processors autoscaling. You may find this illiminates the lag. It certainly did the trick for me.
Unless you use a ROM with the TMOUS camera drivers you might as well not have a flash for taking pictures in dark settings. I spent quite some time just playing around with my old stock ROM too but in the end I gave in because of this issue...
Flashing from the microSD is the safest way to flash anything just make sure that you're battery's fully charged (to be on the safe side) and it's not a stock ROM with an SPL included which would overwrite your HSPL.
Here is a question based on your last comment, Neo, and i'm only asking because i noticed an image was over powered by the flash at around a metre distance. is it possbile to install the tmous camera driver on a stock rom and if so where do i find it?
I found a thread with a link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5866852&postcount=13) but it fails to install on my stock 1.66 rom and looking at the thread many other too. Although that thread reveals - consistant with neo's comment - that the driver is included in many cooked roms based on the tmous 2.10 (and above) rom
Okay guys. Thanks for the tips. I guess I will have to install HSPL again and this time try to flash Energy's ROM. Don't know if it has the new camera drivers, or if it has those nice bluetooth drivers (I have noticed the voice quality is not very good on my bluetooth headset).
3D GFX and that CPU program, check!
Guess I will also try that "Slide to Unlock", saw it in a youtube demo and it had many more features than i originally thought... nice!!!
So if I understand this right, flashing a stock ROM with the stock SPL does not remove the ability to install HSPL again? But it is just annoying having to install HSPL all over ?

nuvogue7.0 or baroggi44's new build?

hey been using nsfans 6.5 rom for a long time now, wouldn't mind trying a new rom.
looking for quick and stable, which rom is better nuvogues 7.0 or baroggi44's new build...anyone tried both yet?
Fair question!
I always encourage people to try both! Barogi44 was pretty much inspiration to try my hand at my own!
And to be totally honest, NuVogue 7.0 is a little bit of a dive in a different direction from the previous 6. It has some features, such as a unique UI, that might not even continue in 8.0 and beyond (I wanted to tinker with it, but it can sometimes slow down the system a little more than I like).
Two things about my build: first and foremost: I put stability above all else when I cook my ROMs - if a program will make it unstable, I won't include it - you can install it yourself, later if you really want it - but if I think it will compromise stability, I'm leaving it out. Second: I always hear that mine boots extremely quickly - but I don't think "boot time" should be a determining factor in which ROM you use! It's always about what you're looking for in your build - which programs are pre installed, how stable the ROM is, etc...
If you have the bandwidth and a little bit of time, I say: give'em both a try! Barogi44 certainly has more users than I do (based on thread length and feedback alone!), so to be honest - that may just be a tell tale sign in itself!
NuAngel
I'm currently using your latest rom now NuAngel. It is fast and stable, which important to me.
I flashed to barogi44's latest build durng my post, it boots slower than yours...his home screen is like the htc-default except abit flashier. but i like your drop/up down list layout as well.
where' gps in your rom?
also if v7 wasn't so large, there's a lot of things i wouldn't put in there...maybe i can try cooking my own rom, what apps do i need to try...anyways NuAngel, the rom is work great so far, i like the photo 'scratch' effect for pictures, kind of neat....sometimes its just little things that make me like a rom more than another, good job!
Thanks for the comments. Yeah, NuVogue has gotten VERY big lately, but that's the addition of the care-pack: if you look under File Manger and the root of the phone, you can see there is a folder called "NuVogue Care Pack" - that folder is just a bunch of Installers that you can use to install many popular programs (including a better version of the EZ Input Keyboard, Swype, if you want it, Google Maps, and more!) - without the need to take the time downloading all of the giant CABs. If you don't want any of those programs, just delete the NuVogue Care Pack folder - it will warn you that these are system files, but you can just go ahead and delete them, it won't cause any problems.
As far as where's the GPS? That I don't know - not sure what "GPS" app you're looking for. GPS works perfectly in other programs such as Sprint Navigator, Google Maps, Trapster, etc... but if you're looking for a particular program, I'm unsure what you're used to using.
Also - if you'd like to switch the interface to the Manila style with the large clock, you can simply click START > SETTINGS > HOME SCREEN > slide right to ITEMS > and check the box that says TouchFLO. I like Titanium, though - I find it much faster.
Any further questions, just put them in the official NuVogue thread.
NuAngel
baroggi44's ROM is a newer build of WM6.5 where as nuvogue7.0 is an older version. Don't let the numbers mess with. Just becasue nuvogue7.0 is 28014 doesn't mean that its newer version of WM6.5. I can't find the tree that shows all of the different builds.
Here is how I see it after trying pretty much everything out there (including Android) on my Vogue:
For the best (IMO) newer 6.5 ROM that includes newer TouchFLO - I'd choose brack21's ROM over on PPCGeeks. It is a ROM that I never had to reboot, found it very stable and fast.
For the Titanium only ROM that fast lean and mean, I'd pick nuvogue 6.0. I did not install 7.0 but am now running 6.0 with few Titanium customizations: installed Home Screen Customizer from Marketplace, which gave me Contacts and App launcher in Titanium. I also installed Titanium Notifications add-in which gives me notifications in Titanium too. (The only problem with that is that notifications do not display correctly as there is some overlapping font issue if you had a missed call). Perhaps 7.0 is best for that...
i'm using nuvogues 7.0, so far so good...i'll try the one you suggested, thanks for the input.
Thread moved to General. Next time, please use either the Q&A thread or post under General if you have questions like these.
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baroggi44's ROM is a newer build of WM6.5 where as nuvogue7.0 is an older version. Don't let the numbers mess with. Just becasue nuvogue7.0 is 28014 doesn't mean that its newer version of WM6.5. I can't find the tree that shows all of the different builds.
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Very true, but in my experience and the experience of the people that use my ROM, newer doesn't always mean better. If you ask "the average user" to tell you the difference between ANY of the builds, they have no answers.
28014 mostly expanded on a few Internet Explorer features - but I also find it far better at memory management & stability. I reboot my phone once every 5 days or so. When I used 23569 or other 23xxx series builds I was 2 days at best, and I hear the same from several of my users and friends. Don't get me wrong, there are other builds in the 28xxx series that are just as horrible.
I'm not trying to put down Barogi44's ROM by any means, but I just think "newer" isn't necessarily "better."
NuAngel
NuAngel said:
Very true, but in my experience and the experience of the people that use my ROM, newer doesn't always mean better. If you ask "the average user" to tell you the difference between ANY of the builds, they have no answers.
28014 mostly expanded on a few Internet Explorer features - but I also find it far better at memory management & stability. I reboot my phone once every 5 days or so. When I used 23569 or other 23xxx series builds I was 2 days at best, and I hear the same from several of my users and friends. Don't get me wrong, there are other builds in the 28xxx series that are just as horrible.
I'm not trying to put down Barogi44's ROM by any means, but I just think "newer" isn't necessarily "better."
NuAngel
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You are right newer doesn't necessarily mean better especially when it comes to MS. I just thought that I would point out 28014 is an older build. I really haven't really noticed much difference between the different builds. Somewhere the start icon was moved to the bottom. However,I am currently not running either.

Archos 70b eReader

Anyone have this yet? Wondering how it compares to NookColor, etc. Note there are two versions of this...the 70b being the newer model with only the two hardware button.
Specs look decent for an e-book reader. Android 2.1, wifi etc.
Would love to see a review...anyone have feedback?
http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk...hscreen__and_Android-based_eReader.12552.html
I plan on buying it. it looks decent
but there no bluetooth built it.
I wanted to know if a bluetooth usb key would work or not.
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Anyone have this yet?
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Got it in MediaMarkt for 139 euros (available online starting 119).
Model Nbr - A7EM
Firmware - 1.0.0
Kernel - 2.6.25 / [email protected] #98
Build - V 0.18.ECLAIR.eng.root.20101209.172546
First impression - pretty slow (comparing to SGS 2.2.1), bugs in original keyboard, pretty bad resistive touchscreen (seems like or a bit better than other Archos tablets) , "read" buttons are not working with all applications, very sensitive orientation sensor - switching all the time, standard Android orientation is horizontal - but the device made for vertical/portrait orientation. So too many software "features".
Also, very important for any user, they made pretty bad decision of making scroll bars very thin on such pretty large screen. Meaning that they could not be used for actual scrolling and it is almost impossible to scroll any screen.
Summary so far - NOT RECOMMENDED for a novice user, but, as I understand, pretty standard so could be "tuned" by an experienced person. Especially if 2.2 ROM could be ported to it.
PS: Could not find any extra information about device itself and how it could be rooted so far. Very limited info on official site, no firmware available, almost no postings on any sites except of 1-2 reviews.
If anybody has questions - please do it quickly. I'm planning to return this device back because it is pretty much failing it main purpose - it has no convenient ebook reader application, so, considering very limited supply in Archos app store - (Stanza is missing!), it is too much work to make this device useful.
(will keep posting with info) Good news:
User 'shinset' posted very interesting video on Youtube "archos 70B ereader" : www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOqbPI3aqDQ
Some modifications were done to the software (see next post).
Not just being cool, but the device looks much snappier and many standard programs could be installed (excluding Google closed source ones as he said in comments). Also with stylus navigation on 70B resistive touchscreen is much easier than with fingers.
'NightTimeification' mentioned: "the only good thing about the A70B is the "c-paper" screen if you read a lot ". Confirming that screen looking pretty good for such a cheap model also color wise.
Checking blogeee forum using Translate from French.Google as: www.blogeee.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=480&t=20537&sid=5c81e90baf766f186ff0c6595748807f
Summary on the device
Product looks alike (except A70b as Android 2.1): Nextbook Next2 7" eBook Reader:
URL: www.nextbookusa.com
PREVIEW: www.youtube.com/watch?v=11KiiL4cMjs
FCC application A70b including Internal photos:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...Frame=N&application_id=420383&fcc_id='SOV7702
= Summary from the French forum (first 13 pages):
- Only temporary root with Z4Root (till reboot)
- no known access to boot manager or Froyo
- apps to be compatible with enlightens 2.1
- Suggested modification: Zeami launcher + home switcher + alternative market (Slide me)
- Office app - Quickoffice - http://gallery.mobile9.com/f/1618835/
- Opera Mini browser 5 is considered as the best browser
- Google calendar via - GCalendar Widget
- A transitional model because Archos is switching to Arnova brand later this year - www.generation-nt.com/archos-arnova-chine-strategie-tablette-android-actualite-1166241.html
- Most of people are pretty happy with functionality for this money
Now I'm not sure any more ...
i have this
http://www.jbmm.fr/2011/02/08/archos-70b-ereader-mes-impressions/
http://www.jbmm.fr/2011/02/04/deballons-larchos-7ob-ereader/
i prefer the 7 IT
the "big" interest for this ereader is the "ADOBE DRM" !
for use epub/pdf with drm
Adobe DRM
cajl said:
the "big" interest for this ereader is the "ADOBE DRM" !
for use epub/pdf with drm
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Indeed, but there is one problem with it - CPU is pretty slow, so any serious PDF is taking ages to load (like a minute to load every page). So I would not count on this device as being a good PDF reader. In emergency situation - yes, but any complex PDF - no.
PS: On my SGS phone with 1 Ghz CPU reading PDF is much more smooth, but the screen is only about 1/3 of 70b. No perfection in this world
Played with device the whole weekend. Here is a summary of how I think about this device:
For:
Size and weight are just right (for me)
Screen type (c-paper) meaning brightness levels, contrast and colors
Overall functionality for this money
Contra:
Resistive screen
Configuration of a single Home screen is just stupid
Immature and obsolete OS version (full of small bugs)
Incompatible with many Android apps I need (not installing)
The only reasonable usage is as e-book reader. All other are inconvenient in a sense
Low chances that it would be ever properly supported by Archos
PS: I've complained to Archos. Waiting for their reaction.
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Contra:
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PS: I've complained to Archos. Waiting for their reaction.
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It looks that Archos never would contact me. So I'm bringing device back to the shop.
For others who are interested, some workarounds:
> Resistive screen
You need a stylus or something alike (finger nail) with small contact surface. Any scrolling easier to do in diagonal style: bottom_left to top_right.
Combining these two, the interface does not look so ugly any more.
> Configuration of a single Home screen
Get a different Launcher and make it default
> Incompatible with many Android apps
It should be a way. Probably in Archos Internet Tablets section they should have more information about this. May be just some libraries to be installed, may be this is just an Installer bug.
> reasonable usage is as e-book reader
It is not bad already.
WiFi driver is not power consumtion friendly - just keep it connected to charger
Browsing is not easy - just try different browsers
> not properly supported by Archos
Who cares! They are a commercial company, but there are a lot of enthusiasts around who might help.
> No bootloader or real permanent root
Get Titanium Backup and z4root, make a full backup (including System settings). So the applications could be easily re-installed and most of settings preserved.
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(will keep posting with info) Good news:
User 'shinset' posted very interesting video on Youtube "archos 70B ereader" : www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOqbPI3aqDQ
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Brought it for less than 100 euro. I've followed the instruction, making a very usable tablet. Even Angry Brids runs on it . I am however looking for a calendar app, which doesn't required the stock calender as it is removed by Archos.

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