Having a couple of questions about the HD2 - also considering flashing!

Having a couple of questions about the HD2 - also considering flashing! - HD2 General

Hi there.
I have owned the HD2 for about a month. I find it difficult to say for sure whether I like it or not - it diffently has a lot of both pros and cons. But since I am not looking to give a review of the device I just have a few pressing questions that I have not been able to find the answer to while doing alot of reading in these greats forums.
1. I have problems with both stability and lag. Could a possible ROM switch to say "energy (the newest version)" fix that?
2. Are the custom ROMS considered better than the stock ones - or is it mainly just because it is fun to be able to completely mess around with your phone?
3. If I choose to switch to energy's latest ROM is there some way for me to get my Danish T9 dictonary to work on the ROM - I have not been able to find the answer to that simple question while reading through those almost terrifyingly many pages contained in the thread for the energy ROM!!!! Found something about Chinese or Korean input... not helpful!
4. A side question: Is there a way to disable the function in HTC''s sms program that makes it able to input a different letter than the one pressed? Say you I have have pressed "e" but accidently released it on "r" making it type "r" instead of "e" - annoying the hell out of me.
Right now I am using my HD2 together with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.4 - the change of interface alone has seemed to reduce lag - but of course the Mobile Shell is not as "connected" as HTC's Sense interface, and I miss my music player and twitter integration :/
Hope you are not going to get a stroke or brain bleed because I did not RTFM enough
Thank you for your time reading this

From my experience with cooked ROMs, it seems like some are just as stable if not more so than stock ROMs whereas others can have more problems... You'll just have to try a few and see which one you like.
Cooked ROMs are nearly always faster than stock and they usually have much more up to date versions of the various system components and programs.
The main reason I decided to flash a cooked ROM was to get the updated TMOUS camera drivers which fixes the overexposed effect that made the LED flash more or less useless. I'm using Dutty's V6 Hybrid at the moment and it uses a different bluetooth stack. I can't tell you why but it does make music sound better (when using a bluetooth headset obviously) and it's much faster than my old 1.44 stock ROM...
I hope those examples show why cooked ROMs can be so amazing. Just be careful not to flash a stock ROM with the latest SPL from your microSD card or you'll be stuck with it...

I prefer tweaking the default rom. This is not to say that the cooks don't do a good job i just prefer not to get too extreme with the custimization. I do tweak the registry and i have installed a different spl and updated the radio. It's also been overclocked and so far i'm very happy with it (at the end of week 2 of ownership). The tweaks and the overclock combined with the 3D gfx driver that you can get from here have solved the lag and speed issues with all programs except for the messaging application.
I've also installed several applications including SRS WoW HD, a WM 6.1 style task manager, WIFI remote access and phm regedit. I've also updated the facebook application and dropped a copy of office mobile 2010 on.
At the end of the day the choice is yours. My phone is as stable as a rock right now and never crashes although i must say it wasn't but i found, like most people, that the problems were caused by a particular program. In my case it was a slightly dodgey remote desktop client that it turns out i didn't need anyway. It's also feels as responsive as my very expensive desktop pc (specs below).
The issue you mention with text messaging could be solved by decreasing the sensitivity of the touch interface or (and this is what i do) rotate the phone to landscape mode and type like that. It makes the keyboard wider and a bit easier to use. You could also get a foldable bluetooth keyboard.
What route you take is entirely your choice so if you think a custom rom is the right route to take go for it. There are some many out there your not going to be short of choice so it may be worth exploring more than just energy's roms.

Thank you very much for your answers
Well, I predict that if choose to flash some custom ROM, that i will spending alot of time trying out the different ROMs of the different chefs, but then again, i do not feel completely satisfied with the way my device is running now.
I have actually recently flashed back with a stock ROM... Tried to install some different radios so that I would get better reception, but I was no different. Plus i didn't think flashing radios was as "dangerous" as flashing ROMs How can i check if my device has been "locked"?
I also think that I have narrowed down the problem with the lag (not the instability) to when the facebook integration of my contact is downloading new info (every 2 hours right?), lags horribly for about one minute throughout the whole menu, actually, every time it accesses the internet to either update tweeter, face or check for email, it lags!
I am hoping these things can be overcome by flashing a new ROM, if that is even possible for me now :S

If you have reinstalled a stock rom you will probably need to install an unlocked spl again. To do this you'll need to get a copy of hspl or hspl2 (look in the rom development board). flashing the radio is less danagerous to a certain extent but i advise you have look for customruu there is a version that is configured not to wipe the device after install. I would post a link but i'm out and about and all my resources are on my desktop.
The lag you experience with the facebook/twitter integration i haven't experienced as i don't use it but i do have an exchange server that is configured with direct push and i don't have any lag with that. It may be worth you looking into the 2 tweaks sticky threads and implementing some of them. I would also suggest that you have a look for the 3D gfx driver and netrippers LCS which will allow you to disable the processors autoscaling. You may find this illiminates the lag. It certainly did the trick for me.

Unless you use a ROM with the TMOUS camera drivers you might as well not have a flash for taking pictures in dark settings. I spent quite some time just playing around with my old stock ROM too but in the end I gave in because of this issue...
Flashing from the microSD is the safest way to flash anything just make sure that you're battery's fully charged (to be on the safe side) and it's not a stock ROM with an SPL included which would overwrite your HSPL.

Here is a question based on your last comment, Neo, and i'm only asking because i noticed an image was over powered by the flash at around a metre distance. is it possbile to install the tmous camera driver on a stock rom and if so where do i find it?
I found a thread with a link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5866852&postcount=13) but it fails to install on my stock 1.66 rom and looking at the thread many other too. Although that thread reveals - consistant with neo's comment - that the driver is included in many cooked roms based on the tmous 2.10 (and above) rom

Okay guys. Thanks for the tips. I guess I will have to install HSPL again and this time try to flash Energy's ROM. Don't know if it has the new camera drivers, or if it has those nice bluetooth drivers (I have noticed the voice quality is not very good on my bluetooth headset).
3D GFX and that CPU program, check!
Guess I will also try that "Slide to Unlock", saw it in a youtube demo and it had many more features than i originally thought... nice!!!
So if I understand this right, flashing a stock ROM with the stock SPL does not remove the ability to install HSPL again? But it is just annoying having to install HSPL all over ?

Related

idiot mogul user desperately needs your help !!!!!

hello everyone ! I just got my Mogul about 2 days ago and im a freakin mess on trying to figure out how to use it. here are things i need your help with....
#1 how do i transfer my contacts onto my PC? I installed the program it came with but i cant figure out how to copy my contacts to my PC.
#2 I tried to upgrade my rom(i dont even know what rom is,lol) and before i updated the rom it read ROM VERSION 2.09.651.3 AND THE ROM DATE WAS 6/14/07. after the update was complete it still read the same thing !! And the mogul appeared to be slower, screens wouldnt open fast or shut down fast etc etc. (which rom should I use??)
#3 THE CUBE, I was checking out the cube for my mogul but i wasnt sure what the benifet was of useing this program...its looks a lot for user friendly and cooler then what the mogul has now....(how do I install the cube into my Mogul?)
#4 lastly, when my phone shuts off i have to push the power button to wake it up everytime...is there any way i can just touch the screen or push a face button to turn it back on?
any help would be awsome
stacy

anyone????????

I'd suggest you visit ppcgeeks.com titan forum. Many more titan users over there and there are several custom roms available.
As far as answering your questions....
1. Not sure, i don't use activesycn for anything other than transferring programs to by phone to install.
2. I've posted a few custom roms on the ppcgeeks ftp and have had numerous compliments. My most current rom is UTCG.2.2.2 and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with it. I don't add in all the extra "crap" some one people do. I use a stable base rom and update some of the features as well as tweak it for performance. My most current ROM runs with ~28mb free ram and is very quick. EDIT: I will post link here shortly.
I'm assuming that you're new to the whole "flashing" thing so I'm uploading a complete file with the rom and flashing software in it right now. I'll update this thread with the direct link to download once it's done.
3. The real cube is not functional on the mogul. There are many hybrid cubes that other members have made. Some are Adobe Flash-Based programs and others are stand-alone programs. I like the idea of the Cube when i got my mogul just like you. But, after messing with it so much and realizing the amount of resources it uses I personally don't think it's worth it. It's just another "gimmick" to compete with the iPhone.
4. I'm not sure why you would want it to "wake-up" by tapping the screen but if this is a necessity than here's how to do it.
Tap "Start" on your mogul.
Tap "Settings"
Tap "System" Tab on the bottom
Tap the "Power" icon
Tap the "Advanced" Tab on the bottom
uncheck the box "On Battery Power: Turn off device if not used for ____"
That will keep the mogul from turning off. BUT, it will also kill your battery really quickly. Personally, i slide by mogul in and out of my pocket all day that it would be a problem if i had it activated by the screen.

You can get my newest rom here:
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Unzip and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe

utexascg said:
You can get my newest rom here:
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Unzip and run the RomUpdateUtility.exe
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I would highly recommend reading the Flashing Basic Guide over at PPCgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927 before attempting any of this.
There are a selection of ROMs available for different needs/tastes, and you'll also need to unlock your phone first (its all in the guide).
But, all this is only necessary if you'd like a customized ROM instead of the stock Sprint release. Most people feel that the custom ROMs perform better, but to be honest, if you don't know what a ROM is or why you want it custom, I'd just leave things as they are. As long as everything works for you, just leave well enough alone.
Now as far as your questions:
1) This is a basic PPC question and not Mogul specific. You need 2 programs installed to do this: Outlook to view/access/edit your personal information (comes on the disc) and Activesync to talk to your device and actually make sure to keep all info in sync (also comes on disc).
Each program will work without the other, but it won't sync your info unless both of them are installed and the device is plugged in.
2) The Sprint releases have bugs. There was an updated ROM (2.16) that caused more problems than it fixed, so they pulled it. Now we're back to 2.09, so that's why nothing changed. There are custom roms that combine the best "fixed bits" of all the releases so far, but don't do these unless you feel comfortable messing with it for now.
3) Cube is a fancy interface designed for the HTC Touch phone. Its supposed to make easy shortcuts for one-fingered use, and has some nifty scrolling 3D effect that they call a "cube" (even tho it has only 3 sides. I guess calling it the "extruded triangle" wouldn't have gone over as well). But, it only works on the touch, so some folks have tried to mimick it by writing their own application that looks just like it. Most of them don't work, or are too slow to be useable, only the real one on the actual device called the "touch" seems to be any good. Its still cute to show off. Not all that functional on the mogul, and I've tried many versions.
4) YES! There's a setting somewhere to wake up on power key only, or for any keypress. The screen touch thing would set it off WAAAY too easily and kill your battery as utexas said. I feel the same way about all the buttons since there are so many that accidentally get pressed when taking it and out of holsters. However, the options is there if you want it.
Good luck!

Your awsome !! could i ask you one more thing? when i want to make a phone call and i go to my contacts list all of my friends names are backwards...meaning that their last name is showin first and this is annoying because i not showing up as it used to in my old filp phone...should i download some sort of firmware to change my contact ist set up??
Dishe said:
I would highly recommend reading the Flashing Basic Guide over at PPCgeeks http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=9927 before attempting any of this.
There are a selection of ROMs available for different needs/tastes, and you'll also need to unlock your phone first (its all in the guide).
But, all this is only necessary if you'd like a customized ROM instead of the stock Sprint release. Most people feel that the custom ROMs perform better, but to be honest, if you don't know what a ROM is or why you want it custom, I'd just leave things as they are. As long as everything works for you, just leave well enough alone.
Now as far as your questions:
1) This is a basic PPC question and not Mogul specific. You need 2 programs installed to do this: Outlook to view/access/edit your personal information (comes on the disc) and Activesync to talk to your device and actually make sure to keep all info in sync (also comes on disc).
Each program will work without the other, but it won't sync your info unless both of them are installed and the device is plugged in.
2) The Sprint releases have bugs. There was an updated ROM (2.16) that caused more problems than it fixed, so they pulled it. Now we're back to 2.09, so that's why nothing changed. There are custom roms that combine the best "fixed bits" of all the releases so far, but don't do these unless you feel comfortable messing with it for now.
3) Cube is a fancy interface designed for the HTC Touch phone. Its supposed to make easy shortcuts for one-fingered use, and has some nifty scrolling 3D effect that they call a "cube" (even tho it has only 3 sides. I guess calling it the "extruded triangle" wouldn't have gone over as well). But, it only works on the touch, so some folks have tried to mimick it by writing their own application that looks just like it. Most of them don't work, or are too slow to be useable, only the real one on the actual device called the "touch" seems to be any good. Its still cute to show off. Not all that functional on the mogul, and I've tried many versions.
4) YES! There's a setting somewhere to wake up on power key only, or for any keypress. The screen touch thing would set it off WAAAY too easily and kill your battery as utexas said. I feel the same way about all the buttons since there are so many that accidentally get pressed when taking it and out of holsters. However, the options is there if you want it.
Good luck!
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Contacts can only be listed by Name or Company. You can however edit the contact to change the way the contact is filed in the edit screen there is a field labeled "File as:" it's here that you can change the way the name is displayed in the contact list.

Should I flash-ROM to a better WM version than T-Mobile's -- before installing ifonz?

I am not a developer; just an end-user. But I've read tons of threads, wiki entries for Herald, etc -- and I can't figure out the sequencing of what to install on my T-Mobile WING.
Everything I've read says that these OEM versions of windows come loaded down with crap that wastes device storage, and hampers performance. But I have been scratching my head trying to figure this out:
I for sure am using ifonz theme -- I have been using it for past week installed onto the T-Mobile default default, and the navigation system is so great, I love it. But I get lots of Memory error messages and freezes if I run ifonz, MortPlayer, and a browser such as NetFront or OperaMini... Just not enough memory avail to handle it all.
From reading, I have seen that various ROMs cooked here have performance boosts (whether it involves overclocking or whatever). So my question is: which ROM is best for this purpose for me -- to be the underlying windows OS running that enables me to run ifonz and several other apps without this problem?
What confuses me is that ROMs seem to be OS tweeks PLUS UI display functionality -- such as emulating the HTC Touch etc. I just can't decode all of this to understand what elements are best for my needs, and which components MUST be on device vs storage card, and which would be optimal to install on storage card so as to leave headroom on device?
I also have installed PCM Keyboard (but I can't get it to stick as the default keyboard; the windows one always comes back), MortPlayer, Comm Manager (love this!). I am so impressed by the current ifonz theme. I read the whole thread from its first release and practically every suggestion has been implemented -- that is so impressive. (I wont bog down this topic further.)
All suggestions appreciated. And thank you. I will be donating to each component's authors. Y'all are the best! I can't believe the productivity difference since modifyng my PoclketPC. Now I can actually use the many aps and utilities!

quicksite said:
I am not a developer; just an end-user. But I've read tons of threads, wiki entries for Herald, etc -- and I can't figure out the sequencing of what to install on my T-Mobile WING.
Everything I've read says that these OEM versions of windows come loaded down with crap that wastes device storage, and hampers performance. But I have been scratching my head trying to figure this out:
I for sure am using ifonz theme -- I have been using it for past week installed onto the T-Mobile default default, and the navigation system is so great, I love it. But I get lots of Memory error messages and freezes if I run ifonz, MortPlayer, and a browser such as NetFront or OperaMini... Just not enough memory avail to handle it all.
From reading, I have seen that various ROMs cooked here have performance boosts (whether it involves overclocking or whatever). So my question is: which ROM is best for this purpose for me -- to be the underlying windows OS running that enables me to run ifonz and several other apps without this problem?
What confuses me is that ROMs seem to be OS tweeks PLUS UI display functionality -- such as emulating the HTC Touch etc. I just can't decode all of this to understand what elements are best for my needs, and which components MUST be on device vs storage card, and which would be optimal to install on storage card so as to leave headroom on device?
I also have installed PCM Keyboard (but I can't get it to stick as the default keyboard; the windows one always comes back), MortPlayer, Comm Manager (love this!). I am so impressed by the current ifonz theme. I read the whole thread from its first release and practically every suggestion has been implemented -- that is so impressive. (I wont bog down this topic further.)
All suggestions appreciated. And thank you. I will be donating to each component's authors. Y'all are the best! I can't believe the productivity difference since modifyng my PoclketPC. Now I can actually use the many aps and utilities!
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It really depends on your likes and disliked. Try a few and see which one fits you best.
As far as the stock ROM goes:
ROM: Stock ROM vs Just2Clean
RAM: 11mb free vs 32mb free
Storage: 26mb free vs 65mb free
So yes, a custom ROM should solve the memory issues. ^_^

Okay, thanks. so would you want to put me into the ballpark of which ROMs are lean and most efficient for my needs?
If you're suggesting the DESCRIPTIONS of the various ROMS will make that obvious to me, well, okay... but I could use some recs...
Also: A followup for my grasping the concept:
When most people here are cooking up these custom ROMs, they are selecting various apps to stitch together into on overall release, right?
If so, I am trying to understand if there are appreciable differences between
(a) A stripped bare custom ROM.... and then my then adding and manually installing a la carte cab files for things like S2U2, Comm Manager, Mort Player, etc ...
and
(b) starting with a ROM that has those aps integrated into the one cab file?
That's too hard for a lay person to understand without an expert explaining, so I hope someone will do that.
If (b) actually enables efficiencies in performance, I would obviously want to use one of those ROMS.
If they are 6 of one and half dozen of another, and no code difference whatsoever as pertains to the way those individual apps perform within the package, then I guess it doesn't matter much at all.
Should I be posting to a different forum -- like maybe the Herald forum, to get specific recommendations on which ROMS would be god for me to start ourt with knowing that my end game is to run ifonz and similar iphone-like applications?
thanks!

quicksite said:
Okay, thanks. so would you want to put me into the ballpark of which ROMs are lean and most efficient for my needs?
If you're suggesting the DESCRIPTIONS of the various ROMS will make that obvious to me, well, okay... but I could use some recs...
Also: A followup for my grasping the concept:
When most people here are cooking up these custom ROMs, they are selecting various apps to stitch together into on overall release, right?
If so, I am trying to understand if there are appreciable differences between
(a) A stripped bare custom ROM.... and then my then adding and manually installing a la carte cab files for things like S2U2, Comm Manager, Mort Player, etc ...
and
(b) starting with a ROM that has those aps integrated into the one cab file?
That's too hard for a lay person to understand without an expert explaining, so I hope someone will do that.
If (b) actually enables efficiencies in performance, I would obviously want to use one of those ROMS.
If they are 6 of one and half dozen of another, and no code difference whatsoever as pertains to the way those individual apps perform within the package, then I guess it doesn't matter much at all.
Should I be posting to a different forum -- like maybe the Herald forum, to get specific recommendations on which ROMS would be god for me to start ourt with knowing that my end game is to run ifonz and similar iphone-like applications?
thanks!
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it all depends on what you want... if you want to use apps that you only like and dont like the ones that people have cooked, go with a lite rom or a clean rom.. if some of the apps and configs that the cooks have made work for you go with the ones that are fully loaded...
ivans roms are usally neked roms ( bare bones roms that run fast and efficent because he took out all the junk that you dont need, and that also slow the rom down )...
papa has a good rom out right now even though he has it customized you can still dissable some of the stuff on his rom and tweak it how u want...
for more info on the roms for the wing check out pureskillzzz thread on the roms of xda...
im going back to watching the basketball game...
check my sig for links to a slideshow of ttrans open touch 5.0ul and papas black rom...
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if you like ifonz ( which I did too when i first saw it - its a good app) read up on ultimate launch or throttle launcher which takes the ifonz concept to another level... ultimate launch is good because you can customize it to look like ifonz with the icons, but you have more power with your device... ifonz is a ipod type launcher and it also drains the phones memory.

thanks very much!... that's interesting re other launchers and performance. (i know i'm in over my head but is that because ifonz was written in .NET vs native code ? i thiught i read that somewhere).
QUESTION: is there a "Browse by Photo Gallery" forum or wiki section... that lets one see the look/UI of the theme, launcher, etc of the various roms, as a means for narrowing down choices?
thx

quicksite said:
thanks very much!... that's interesting re other launchers and performance. (i know i'm in over my head but is that because ifonz was written in .NET vs native code ? i thiught i read that somewhere).
QUESTION: is there a "Browse by Photo Gallery" forum or wiki section... that lets one see the look/UI of the theme, launcher, etc of the various roms, as a means for narrowing down choices?
thx
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nah but you can check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395793
and read thru the reviews...
I recomend ttrans or papamops roms... then itjes, and ivans roms... the first 2 cause those are the ones that i have tried....
what are you looking for in a rom... read the link that i gave you about the reviews of most of the roms on here

I didn't know there are these many ROMs out there now... WOW what a collection!
To OP: to make your pcm keyboard sticky, search for SIP change. This utility will automatically change to whatever SIP you choose after reboot so you don't have to manually select it.

everyone's gonna recommend something different. i personally prefer just2clean. it's exactly that. smooth, fast, and clean. honestly, of all the roms i've ever flashed, it's the only one that i've had absolutely zero issues with. i don't mind taking the time to install each program i really want. most of the other roms come with lots of extra programs that i have no use for, and can't delete, since there isn't an add/remove item for them... they're cooked in with the rom.
so really, it all just come down to your own preference. just check the herald rom development section. i think pureskillz (maybe?) did a write up on various roms and his pros and cons on each.

alongenemylines said:
everyone's gonna recommend something different. i personally prefer just2clean. it's exactly that. smooth, fast, and clean. honestly, of all the roms i've ever flashed, it's the only one that i've had absolutely zero issues with. i don't mind taking the time to install each program i really want. most of the other roms come with lots of extra programs that i have no use for, and can't delete, since there isn't an add/remove item for them... they're cooked in with the rom.
so really, it all just come down to your own preference. just check the herald rom development section. i think pureskillz (maybe?) did a write up on various roms and his pros and cons on each.
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yes that is true, but the point of trying different roms is seeing what programs and configs that you like the best, then after time ( how ever long the herald is around ) you will try a lite rom or clean rom and add the programs that you want to it... thats what im doing right now... there are a few that are great from the get go, but sometimes you dont need all that extra stuff...
that brings me back to the original question what do you want in the rom that you flash ??

thanks so much! This is exactly what I have been seeking... some kind of top-level context.
I love this community... and thank you for your personal recs as well.

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To OP: to make your pcm keyboard sticky, search for SIP change. This utility will automatically change to whatever SIP you choose after reboot so you don't have to manually select it.
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wow! thank you so much!

alongenemylines said:
most of the other roms come with lots of extra programs that i have no use for, and can't delete, since there isn't an add/remove item for them... they're cooked in with the rom.
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Another of my primary questions answered. Thanks so much! I was trying to learn the practical differences between apps cooks in, and installing cab files a la carte.
My own recap:
(1) YES, flash to a better ROM to free up memory, remove OEM junk
(2) There is no gallery of ROM photos of interfaces, but a great REVIEW thread of lots of ROMS
(3) Apps as part of the ROM makes them unremoveable.
(that recap's for other newbies like me!)

quicksite said:
Another of my primary questions answered. Thanks so much! I was trying to learn the practical differences between apps cooks in, and installing cab files a la carte.
My own recap:
(1) YES, flash to a better ROM to free up memory, remove OEM junk
(2) There is no gallery of ROM photos of interfaces, but a great REVIEW thread of lots of ROMS
(3) Apps as part of the ROM makes them unremoveable.
(that recap's for other newbies like me!)
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i have slide shows of 2 herald roms and 1 wizard rom in my sig...
right now im running pappamops rom and its very good, good to use right away, just a little tweaking, has alot of storage and its fast, plus you can dissable anything that you dont want to use right now( mainly Ultimate Launch ) you will need batterystatus ( you can disable the theme )... one of the best roms if you like to put your own stuff on the phone...

Ideas for my new ROM

Hi guys. I am in the process of doing research into making my own ROM. I would like to know if you have any requests or ideas for me to base my ROM on. I want to know if there are some features, apps or configuration that you would like to see that other ROMs may not have.
Anyway let me know here and i will try to include the most popular options.

I got one...
I L-O-V-E the Khanx Touch Navia.
HOWEVER, the only thing missing, in my opinion, is a calender tab that I can see my upcoming appointments. In the original M2D you can only see 1 app ahead.

I would like to see a ROM without M2D, but with Throttle Launcher. Not everybody likes Manilla.

Since the time I got my orbit I'm missing very simple ROM and I requested it many people:
I need just serial ROM with all the unnecessary stuff removed, such as microsoft bug report, touch cube etc, with optimization tweaks and without side software at all. I'd say lite version of the serial 6.1 ROM =)
All of us got their must-have software so just let people choose what they need.
All the ROMs existing now are a kinda clones, its have very similar functionality... The mistake of the most of rom-makers is that they are trying to provide all possible features together with their ROMs. They insert there manilla, opera, config tools and many more, and I guess it takes them a lot of time to have all this things work together. Then after some time this "extra" tools getting updated and you have to develop updated ROM and catch new bugs...
Actually, the closest software to my wishes was Bepe's software, but it's not updating anymore...

I am going to look into two versions.
Naked build
lightweight and simple.
only the essential apps (to be decided)
basic config/customisation tools
Skeleton build
bare bones
no extra apps
basic config/customisation tools.
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Actually, the closest software to my wishes was Bepe's software, but it's not updating anymore...
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I had a quick look for this, but couldn't find what you mean. can you please send me a link.

t1m said:
Since the time I got my orbit I'm missing very simple ROM and I requested it many people:
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I agree....I tried all the new ROM's and finally went back to pre 6.1 more memory, faster speed, reliable phone and most important - Clean customised installs and screens.
I wish I could get something similar to Khanx Lite and Panosha's butterfly ! I have no interest in Manila, 3d or whatever - just a naked build and my own apps - whatever needed- installed have over 50MB to play with and nearly 2+ days battery life -what more could i ask for?

devdarshan said:
...I wish I could get something similar to Khanx Lite and Panosha's butterfly ! ...
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i will check them out. sounds like a good place to start

Ideal ROM for me:
1. Fast and stable build (probably official HTC build is better than some leaked build)
2. Minimum software - no cube, no customer feebback, no opera, no manila, no windows live and live messenger etc.
3. Performance tweaks included
4. Video call support (I mention this since recently many chefs drop this functionality from their ROMs)
5. Maximum free RAM

How about a kind of tracker app?
I am planning to cook a ROM for me including this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
Also remove some apps to make the system faster.
In my case, I dont need the audio booster, audio manager, calculator and getting started.
Regards,
Luciano
HTC Cruise
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil

How's the cooking going Jabba1701?
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How about a kind of tracker app?
I am planning to cook a ROM for me including this app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203
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That won't help you at all Luciano. The program works by sending the location to another phone by sms. That phone number has to be cooked in the ROM, else it would be gone upon hard reset. So this kind of applications only works when you cook your own personal ROM.

Jabba1701
I agree with the "Skeleton build".
This is a numbers game - quite a few posts have wished for such a skeleton ROM, but many more seem to like all the doo-dads and frippery being cooked into the ROM's on offer. Since most chefs quite rightly wish for donations, they choose the doo-dad route.
The basic reasons I dislike the doo-dads is that I have no use for most of them (I use the device as a mini-computer as much as a phone), they consume flash memory and RAM and you cannot update them without flashing a new ROM.
M'Amine's kitchen and one of his new ROM's is the place to start, I suggest. He has not protected his ROM's so we can completely dis-assemble them, remove the doo-dads and re-cook.
I'm slowly wending my way through this process now. The basic difficulty is figuring out all of the folders, files and Registry references associated with those doo-dads I want to remove.

working on this ROM has been pushed back in the queue a fair bit. We are currently getting our house up for sale so we can move for our kids school next year and my wife's new job. There are a few things i'd like to look at to make testing the ROMs a bit easier and quicker (ie an emulator or similar) but i really haven't had the time to even google it.

Hi, I agree with all previous comments. In my case I like to build my own UI with WAD so I do not like m2d/manila/htc roms. They look all the same to me and I still end using additional software for photos, music and even contacts
I am very happy with the rom I am using: swtos light rom (see my signature).
The only problem is swtos is not anymore with a touch so I do not expect any updates to new builds. I would say I have a 0 bugs rom, with 160 mb for programs and circa 50 mb free ram. I do not plan to go back to wm 6.1 official or to try other roms if I do not have relevant new features over this one in terms of performance.
Since swtos is not cooking polaris anymore he may be willing to share the kitchen. You can see in the thread that people is happy with this rom and missing swtos new work.
I have a couple of suggestions:
- naked roms are so naked that are only good for very advanced users. light roms most of the times already include config tools, ui and basic programs. I think a really naked but pre-configured rom would be great.
- I would suggest to explore radio compatibility. It seems to be a nightmare quite often and many people do not want to flash the phone many times.
- I suggest to concentrate on performance, scrolling and Ram recovery and exploit current hardware as it is rather than bringing it to the limit (eg. 3d drivers)
Bepes rom I think is much older than swtos so even if it is well known for its stability, I would not use it as the starting point.
Good luck !

I'm attempting to build an ultra-clean ROM from one of the public releases recently.
I tried one from c_shekhar but it contained some very confusing (to me) entries on Language and SYS versions.
Trying one of M'Amine's next

ianl8888 said:
Jabba1701
I agree with the "Skeleton build".
This is a numbers game - quite a few posts have wished for such a skeleton ROM, but many more seem to like all the doo-dads and frippery being cooked into the ROM's on offer. Since most chefs quite rightly wish for donations, they choose the doo-dad route.
The basic reasons I dislike the doo-dads is that I have no use for most of them (I use the device as a mini-computer as much as a phone), they consume flash memory and RAM and you cannot update them without flashing a new ROM.
M'Amine's kitchen and one of his new ROM's is the place to start, I suggest. He has not protected his ROM's so we can completely dis-assemble them, remove the doo-dads and re-cook.
I'm slowly wending my way through this process now. The basic difficulty is figuring out all of the folders, files and Registry references associated with those doo-dads I want to remove.
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sorry mate, not sure how i missed your post when giving an update.
I am the same as you with how i use my phone, it is more like an organiser and computer that just happens to have a phone in it. I use mine for Geocaching, tomtom, email, twitter, photos, brain training games..... and i occasionally get a phone call or SMS or two.
Do-dads are great fun to try out, but the novelty wears out over time, and they just suck up resources and slow other apps down and hurt stability.
At the moment i am trying out the more popular lite ROMS to see what they do and how they perform so i can get a feel of to expect from mine.

nuvogue7.0 or baroggi44's new build?

hey been using nsfans 6.5 rom for a long time now, wouldn't mind trying a new rom.
looking for quick and stable, which rom is better nuvogues 7.0 or baroggi44's new build...anyone tried both yet?

Fair question!
I always encourage people to try both! Barogi44 was pretty much inspiration to try my hand at my own!
And to be totally honest, NuVogue 7.0 is a little bit of a dive in a different direction from the previous 6. It has some features, such as a unique UI, that might not even continue in 8.0 and beyond (I wanted to tinker with it, but it can sometimes slow down the system a little more than I like).
Two things about my build: first and foremost: I put stability above all else when I cook my ROMs - if a program will make it unstable, I won't include it - you can install it yourself, later if you really want it - but if I think it will compromise stability, I'm leaving it out. Second: I always hear that mine boots extremely quickly - but I don't think "boot time" should be a determining factor in which ROM you use! It's always about what you're looking for in your build - which programs are pre installed, how stable the ROM is, etc...
If you have the bandwidth and a little bit of time, I say: give'em both a try! Barogi44 certainly has more users than I do (based on thread length and feedback alone!), so to be honest - that may just be a tell tale sign in itself!
NuAngel

I'm currently using your latest rom now NuAngel. It is fast and stable, which important to me.
I flashed to barogi44's latest build durng my post, it boots slower than yours...his home screen is like the htc-default except abit flashier. but i like your drop/up down list layout as well.
where' gps in your rom?
also if v7 wasn't so large, there's a lot of things i wouldn't put in there...maybe i can try cooking my own rom, what apps do i need to try...anyways NuAngel, the rom is work great so far, i like the photo 'scratch' effect for pictures, kind of neat....sometimes its just little things that make me like a rom more than another, good job!

Thanks for the comments. Yeah, NuVogue has gotten VERY big lately, but that's the addition of the care-pack: if you look under File Manger and the root of the phone, you can see there is a folder called "NuVogue Care Pack" - that folder is just a bunch of Installers that you can use to install many popular programs (including a better version of the EZ Input Keyboard, Swype, if you want it, Google Maps, and more!) - without the need to take the time downloading all of the giant CABs. If you don't want any of those programs, just delete the NuVogue Care Pack folder - it will warn you that these are system files, but you can just go ahead and delete them, it won't cause any problems.
As far as where's the GPS? That I don't know - not sure what "GPS" app you're looking for. GPS works perfectly in other programs such as Sprint Navigator, Google Maps, Trapster, etc... but if you're looking for a particular program, I'm unsure what you're used to using.
Also - if you'd like to switch the interface to the Manila style with the large clock, you can simply click START > SETTINGS > HOME SCREEN > slide right to ITEMS > and check the box that says TouchFLO. I like Titanium, though - I find it much faster.
Any further questions, just put them in the official NuVogue thread.
NuAngel

baroggi44's ROM is a newer build of WM6.5 where as nuvogue7.0 is an older version. Don't let the numbers mess with. Just becasue nuvogue7.0 is 28014 doesn't mean that its newer version of WM6.5. I can't find the tree that shows all of the different builds.

Here is how I see it after trying pretty much everything out there (including Android) on my Vogue:
For the best (IMO) newer 6.5 ROM that includes newer TouchFLO - I'd choose brack21's ROM over on PPCGeeks. It is a ROM that I never had to reboot, found it very stable and fast.
For the Titanium only ROM that fast lean and mean, I'd pick nuvogue 6.0. I did not install 7.0 but am now running 6.0 with few Titanium customizations: installed Home Screen Customizer from Marketplace, which gave me Contacts and App launcher in Titanium. I also installed Titanium Notifications add-in which gives me notifications in Titanium too. (The only problem with that is that notifications do not display correctly as there is some overlapping font issue if you had a missed call). Perhaps 7.0 is best for that...

i'm using nuvogues 7.0, so far so good...i'll try the one you suggested, thanks for the input.

Thread moved to General. Next time, please use either the Q&A thread or post under General if you have questions like these.

jadesse said:
baroggi44's ROM is a newer build of WM6.5 where as nuvogue7.0 is an older version. Don't let the numbers mess with. Just becasue nuvogue7.0 is 28014 doesn't mean that its newer version of WM6.5. I can't find the tree that shows all of the different builds.
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Very true, but in my experience and the experience of the people that use my ROM, newer doesn't always mean better. If you ask "the average user" to tell you the difference between ANY of the builds, they have no answers.
28014 mostly expanded on a few Internet Explorer features - but I also find it far better at memory management & stability. I reboot my phone once every 5 days or so. When I used 23569 or other 23xxx series builds I was 2 days at best, and I hear the same from several of my users and friends. Don't get me wrong, there are other builds in the 28xxx series that are just as horrible.
I'm not trying to put down Barogi44's ROM by any means, but I just think "newer" isn't necessarily "better."
NuAngel

NuAngel said:
Very true, but in my experience and the experience of the people that use my ROM, newer doesn't always mean better. If you ask "the average user" to tell you the difference between ANY of the builds, they have no answers.
28014 mostly expanded on a few Internet Explorer features - but I also find it far better at memory management & stability. I reboot my phone once every 5 days or so. When I used 23569 or other 23xxx series builds I was 2 days at best, and I hear the same from several of my users and friends. Don't get me wrong, there are other builds in the 28xxx series that are just as horrible.
I'm not trying to put down Barogi44's ROM by any means, but I just think "newer" isn't necessarily "better."
NuAngel
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You are right newer doesn't necessarily mean better especially when it comes to MS. I just thought that I would point out 28014 is an older build. I really haven't really noticed much difference between the different builds. Somewhere the start icon was moved to the bottom. However,I am currently not running either.

[GUIDE]The ULTIMATE n00bs guide to the HD2-HardSPL, Android, ROMs, Radios and more!

THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO VOTED THIS TO THE FRONT PAGE!!!
Alright people, I am making this to aggregate information for the n00bs among us. And I’m not talking about just people new to the HD2; I’m talking about TRUE WinMo n00bs, as well as people new to the HD2. This is mostly from my own research, so anyone that has anything to add please do so. This guide is meant to be super easy for ANYONE to follow along with, and as such, PLEASE read ALL the information before posting a question. At certain points in the guide you will see the following tag-[IMG(X)] where (X) is a number. When you see this tag, it means that there is an image at the bottom of the post that refers to or helps explain what the text is telling you, so please refer to those images to help you along.
Onto the guide!
Note that this guide assumes that you are using your US T-Mobile HTC HD2...on T-Mobile US service. Other carriers need not apply.
Please note that things in CAPITAL LETTERS and RED are IMPORTANT AND SHOULD BE READ. DON'T SKIP OVER STUFF!
PLEASE NOTE!!! THIS GUIDE IS !ONLY! FOR THE T-Mobile US VERSION OF THE HD2!!! DO NOT! I REPEAT !NOT! FOLLOW THE FLASHING INSTRUCTIONS IF YOU ARE USING AN INTERNATIONAL HD2! I TAKE !NO! RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE FOLLOWING THIS GUIDE!!!
CURRENT SECTIONS:
SECTION 1-ANDROID
SECTION 2-WINDOWS MOBILE
SECTION 3-WINDOWS PHONE 7
SECTION 4-INTERNET ON THE HD2
SECTION 5-PROGRAMS, HACKS AND TWEAKS
SECTION 6-GENERAL HD2 Q&A
SECTION 7-WARRANTY RETURNS
SECTION 8-MAGDLR AND NANDROID
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Section 1-ANDROID ON THE HD2 AND YOU!
Alright, this is going to be a simple, broken down, easy to understand answer to the most common Android questions.
Q1-CAN I RUN ANDROID ON MY HD2?
A1-Yes, you can.
Q2-ALRIGHT, HOW?
A-Almost all Android distros come in a folder called "Android" that you then copy to your storage card. Now, where is the most common question. The answer-to the ROOT of your storage card. The ROOT of your storage card is where all of your files begin. [IMG1] is a screenshot of my HD2 connected to my PC via USB. The icon on the left with the name of "\" is your device's internal memory, and of course "Storage Card" is your Micro SD card inserted into your device. THAT is where you will copy your Android folder to. Double click on the "Storage Card" icon and then copy the Android folder inside it. See [IMG2].
Q3-ALRIGHT I'VE DONE THAT, NOW HOW DO I RUN IT?
A-Hold on there Skippy, you need to check something first. Are you running the stock T-Mobile ROM on your phone? If so, most builds of Android WILL NOT have the proper sound support. To check which version of Windows Mobile you are running, please see the next section. If you ARE NOT running the stock ROM, OR have a build of Android that is confirmed to work on the stock ROM then you are good to go! To run Android, simply navigate to the Android folder that you copied to your storage card using File Explorer, run the CLRCAD.exe program(nothing will happen, it’s not supposed to), then run the HaRET.exe program to begin booting Android. See [IMG3] for what this looks like. For more detailed instructions please refer to your particular builds thread for more information. DO NOT ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC ANDROID PROBLEMS IN THIS THREAD. THEY WILL BE IGNORED.
Q4-COOL, ANDROID IS BOOTED. NOW, WHY DON I HAZ INTERNETS?!?
A-Because you have to setup your APN settings. Some builds of Android don't include the T-Mobile APN settings, and you have to enter them manually. Please refer to your builds thread for more information.
Q5-BUT WAIT, DO I NEED HARDSPL TO RUN ANDROID?
A-If you are going to be using the stock ROM and radio, no; you do not need HardSPL in order to boot Android. But since most builds of Android don't work on the stock ROM, you will need to flash HardSPL and a custom ROM in order to boot Android. Please refer to the Windows Mobile section below.
Q6-MAH PROGRAMS ARE SLOW ON ANDROID!
A-Of course they are. Android was not built to run on the HD2, all of the builds are unofficial ones that people have made in their spare time, so some programs may not work very well or at all on the HD2. Which leads into the next question...
Q7-OH NOES! BLUETOOTH/Wi-Fi/GPS/CAMERA ETC DON’T WORK! HALPS!
A-Not all builds of Android have everything working. Some don't have GPS, but have full camera. While others have no GPS but great Bluetooth, it all depends on the build and who made it. Please refer to the builds thread for more information. DO NOT POST ABOUT NON WORKING HARDWARE FEATURES IN THE GUIDE. THEY WILL BE IGNORED.
Alright, that's about it for Android I think. I will update it as I see fit. Onto WinMo!
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SECTION 2-Windows Mobile, the dyeing giant.
Lets face it people, as awesome as Windows Mobile is...its dying. I love it, and most people at XDA love WinMo (it IS what XDA was founded for after all contrary to popular belief), but it’s now overshadowed by iN00b OS, Android and pretty soon WP7...but WinMo can still be awesome! Thanks to the EXCELLENT work by the cooks at XDA, WinMo is still alive, and better than ever. Let’s get to it!
Q1-WHAT VERSION OF WINMO DO I HAVE?
A-A good question! With so many out there now, it can get a bit confusing, but never fear, it’s not hard to find out which you have. If your Start button is in the top left hand corner of your screen, you are using Windows Mobile 6.5.1 or earlier. If your Start button is on the bottom left of your screen, then you are using Windows Mobile 6.5.3 or later (maybe). To get your specific version and build numbers, simply navigate to Start->Settings->System->About. On that page at the top is displayed your OS version and build number. Please see [IMG4] for an example of what mine looks like.
Q2-KK, I'VE GOT 6.5.1, AND I WANT 6.5.3!
A-Cool, then you will need to flash a custom ROM. Doing so is relatively easy to do. But you will need some things before you start. Here's what you need:
#1-A T-Mobile US HD2 (this guide is ONLY for the US version!)
#2-A MicroUSB cable
#3-The HardSPL3 kit
#4-The ROM of your choice
#5a-If on Windows XP-Activesync
#5b-If on Windows Vista/7-Windows Sync Center-AKA Windows Mobile Device Center
HardSPL3 can be downloaded from the main section of the T-Mo LEO forums. I am not going to hotlink out of respect to the creator, and WMDC or AS can be downloaded from http://www.windowsmobile.com.
After you assemble all these components, first things first, a proper warning. BACKUP ANYTHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOSE BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FLASH! Files, pictures, texts, emails...anything you don't want lost. You can either use a backup program, or move these items to your SD card. EVERYTHING ON YOUR DEVICES INTERNAL MEMORY WILL BE DELETED WHEN YOU FLASH A NEW ROM!!! PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND! Now, follow these steps to get yourself flashed with a new ROM!
#1-Install WMDC or AC.
#2-Connect your device and let it fully sync. If some windows pop up asking you to enter a device name and such, just close them. Every time you flash a new ROM you will have to go through that process again as your computer thinks that it is a new device.
#3-Once your device is connected and synced unzip HardSPL and follow the instructions in the HardSPL thread to get it applied.
#4-After HardSPL is applied, connect your device again, and then navigate to your custom ROMs folder that you downloaded earlier and run the "CustomRUU" program from within and follow the instructions. THAT'S IT! If all went well, you have now successfully flashed a new ROM onto your HD2!
Q3-BUT, FOR WHATEVER REASON, I CAN'T FLASH USING USB!!!
A-Follow my man Snarksneeze's guide here in the T-Mobile HD2 forums for COMPLETE details on flashing both your ROM and radio via Micro SD card. I can't explain it any better than he does...so I'm not gonna even try!
Q4-COOL! I HAVE A NEW ROM!!! BUT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THE OLD ONE...
A-Of course it doesn't. All ROMs are different, and every cook is different. No two ROMs are ever exactly the same. Try them all out! Which leads too...
Q5-WHICH ROM IS BEST?? JUST POINT ME TO IT!!
A-Asking this question, ESPECIALLY making a new thread about it, is about the fastest way to get hated at XDA. Lemme say this nice and calm...WHICH ROM IS BEST IS A SUBJECTIVE THING. THERE IS NO ONE BEST ROM, THERE IS ONLY THE BEST ROM FOR YOUR NEEDS. PLEASE PEOPLE, WE DON'T NEED MORE THREADS ABOUT THIS!
Q6-I DON'T THINK I LIKE THIS CUSTOM ROM, CAN I GO BACK TO STOCK!!
A-Yes! You can! Simply connect your phone via USB again, download the CORRECT stock ROM for your device (look below for more info) and flash away1
Q7-CORRECT STOCK ROM? QUE?
A-The T-Mobile HD2 is NOT, IN ANY WAY, compatible with international, or other carrier ROMs. It is imperative that you ONLY flash the T-Mobile US carrier ROMs to your US HD2 or you will end up with a nice shiny brick of a device. You can find T-Mobile US HD2 carrier ROMs in the "Official ROMS" thread in the ROMs section.
Q8-WHAT ABOUT RADIOS?!
A-Radio ROMs are what control your cell radio, your GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, among other things. And they can be JUST as dangerous as custom ROMs, if not more. You CANNOT flash a radio ROM to your HD2 if it has the number (.51) in its name. CANNOT. IF you do, it will insta-brick your HD2 beyond repair. Radio ROMs that have .51 in their name are specifically for international HD2s and will not work with the T-Mobile US version. Radio ROMS flash just like regular ROMs.
Q9-MAH SPL! IT CHANGED!
A-If you flashed an official T-Mobile ROM via MicroSD, then yes, it did. When flashing via USB, your SPL is not touched. But when flashing via MicroSD, it overwrites ANY SPL you have applied, even HardSPL.
Q10-HOW DO I INSTALL PROGRAMS?
A-Windows Mobile programs generally come in a format that ends with ".cab". These files are simply installers, very similar to .exe's on your PC. To install a WinMo program, simply copy that .cab file to either your device or storage card, navigate to it using file explorer on your device and click on it. Follow the instructions and BAM, new program.
Q11-ZOMG WHY CAN'T I DOWNLOAD THE NEW OFFICIAL ROM UPDATE???? WHERE CAN I GET IT?!?
A-Because you aren't a T-Mobile customer, or because you aren't looking very hard. To make this easy for people, I have downloaded the official update, and uploaded it to Multiupload. You can download it from this link-http://www.multiupload.com/6W0HRU5PGU
Q12-I HAVE A MAC, HOW CAN I FLASH MY PHONE?
A-The RUU of course will not run under a Mac OS environment, but there are a few ways to get your phone flashed. Some users have had success using DarWINE, a Windows API emulator to run the RUU, but some have also run into problems with Mac OS not having proper RDIS drivers to recognize the device with. Other Mac users simply create a Bootcamp partition, install some flavor of Windows, and flash normally. And the third, and easiest way to flash your phone while using Mac OS, is to simply extract the ROM itself and flash it via SD card, here's how; If you download an official T-Mobile ROM it will come in the form of an .exe, which is simply a self extracting archive that extracts the ROM file itself (xxxxxx_SIGNED.nbh) and the RUU to a temporary folder on your PC, then runs the RUU and flashes your phone, then deletes the temp data. Under a Mac OS system, you can simply download this .exe, and use an archiving program such as StuffIt to un-archive the .exe and gain the raw files. StuffIt may or may not recognize the .exe as an archive, but select it anyways and it should continue. After you have extracted the files to a folder, connect your SD card to your computer through a reader of some sort, and follow the directions in Snarksneeze's stickie on how to flash a ROM via an SD card. If you downloaded a custom ROM, then you can skip the un-archiving step, and just follow the SD card flashing guide.
For right now, that's it for the WinMo section...now onto something ALOT worse...
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SECTION 3-Windows Phone 7...on the HD2?
Yes, it’s true; Windows Phone 7 CAN be installed on the HD2.
Q1-WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD A WP7 ROM?
A-By using Google. At this time, there is no OFFICIAL Cotulla release of WP7 for the HD2, likewise posting direct links to the leaked release are AGAINST the XDA rules.
Q2-WHY CAN'T WE HAVE IT?
A-Because the current release hasn't been officially released to XDA yet, but only on Cotulla's personal site.
Q3-WELL, WHO IS DEVELOPING IT? CAN I HELP TEST?
A-Cotulla and his team are currently working on porting WP7 to the HD2, and if they need your help they will ask. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not bother Cotulla or his team about WP7, they are doing what they can, and if it works they will release it to the public. Not any sooner, begging for it will only make it take longer.
Q4-BUT, THE HARDWARE IS THE SAME, WHY WON'T WP7 JUST BOOT NOW?
A-Because the hardware isn't actually the same. Yes the HD7 has more or less the same specs, but the hardware itself is completely different. Different processor, different type of RAM, different storage. It’s not as simple as just hacking the RUU to work with the HD2; proper drivers have to be written first. It’s just like Android at this point.
Q5-OKAY, I HAZ WP7...BUT I CAN'T DOWNLOAD APPS!
A-No, you can't. Currently ALL WP7 devices have what is called a PVK(private key) embedded in the software, which basically acts like Windows Genuine Advantage for desktop versions of Windows.
Q6-CAN I BYPASS THIS "PVK"?
A-Not officially no. Methods do exist, but we at XDA DO NOT recommend or support them in ANY WAY. Users posting activation keys or requests for such keys will be warned.
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SECTION 4-Internet on the HD2....whatsup?
As some of you may know, it seems that T-Mobile has finally decided to close the T-Zones proxy loophole with the HD2, and force people to upgrade their plans to the 20USD or more a month mobile internet plan. It is currently unknown if this is permanent, here-say or a wives tale as the effect does not seem to be nationwide. We will just have to wait and see how it pans out.
Q1-DO I NEED AN INTERNET PLAN TO USE THE HD2?
A-It's not required in order to use the phone, but highly recommended. As with all WinMo phones, the HD2 has loads of options to be connected...streaming video, music, full desktop like browsing, IM, downloading programs, Twitter, Facebook...the works...and it all uses the internet to connect of course. You can of course use Wi-Fi with the HD2, but that will only work if you have a hotspot to connect to. While internet service isn't needed for the HD2 to function, I DEFINATELY recommend it.
Q2-DOES THE HD2 SUPPORT Wi-Fi N? OR N+?
A-Using a registry hack yes, the HD2 does indeed support Wi-Fi N. N+ is currently not supported and is unlikely to ever be supported as the HD2 lacks the hardware to do so.
Q3-UNDER NORMAL USE, HOW MANY MB OF DATA DOES THE HD2 USE A MONTH?
A-This is completely upto you. If you hardly ever use data, then very little. If you are like me, and have 4 email accounts syncing every 30 minutes, stream music with Slacker at least an hour a day, update Twitter and Facebook every now and then, and use Bing for navigation, you can EASILY use 500MB or more of data a month. I usually average about 1.2GB of downstream data a month with my kind of usage but your mileage will of course vary.
Q4-DOES THE HD2 SUPPORT HSPA? OR HSPA+?
A-Yes and yes. The HD2 does support both forms of pseudo-4G that T-Mobile is providing right now. You do not need to sign up for anything or enable anything in order to receive 4G speeds, you just need to be in an area that supports it...which leads to...
Q5-WHEN WILL I GET 4G?
A-Who knows? T-Mobile does. T-Mobile's website has a map that shows what coverage and where is provided in any given state of the US. Check it out at http://www.tmobile.com/coverage.
Q6-MY DOWNLOAD SPEEDS ARE SLOWER IN WINMO THAN IN ANDROID!
A-For some reason...yes, they probably are. For reasons that I cannot explain, nor have found an answer for, download speeds seem faster in Android than in WinMo. Go figure. I currently get 4MBps down in WinMo so I don't complain .
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So you have an HD2. AWESOME! Now, you want some cool programs to make the iTards jealous eh? AWESOME. Now, how do you get them?
Q1-I WANTS ME SOME PROGRAMS!
A-Well that's cool.
Q2-SERIOUSLY, GIVE THEM TO ME!
A-Alright, alright. There are literally hundreds of thousands of freeware programs available for Windows Mobile nowadays, and there are some great resources to find them aswell. One of the BEST places is the Opnmarket, a program that runs on your phone and connects you to the depository of programs at http://www.freewarePocketPC.net and download them straight to your device. Best of all, EVERYTHING at FPPC is, as the name implies, FREE...and so is the program! The only thing you need in order to use the program is an account at the site, which is ALSO free. Seriously, it’s a win/win/win situation. You can download Opnmarket from the main page of FPPC, and then register for an account right on your phone and start downloading. If the OpnMarket isn't your thing, then there is also the inbuilt Windows Marketplace for Mobile. The Marketplace isn't all that great in my opinion, but it does have its benefits...such as downloading free updates to Microsoft built programs. To use it simply hit Start and find the icon for Marketplace. If you are using a custom ROM and the Marketplace isn't already installed, simply search the forums for "MS Skymarket" and you should be able to find it. The third option is the new-ish XDA-Marketplace. Now right now there really isn't all that much there, and the program itself is pretty buggy, but before long I feel confident that it will become the premiere repository for XDA members to post applications. The XDA-Marketplace is where XDA members can post their work for FREE, and allow XDA members to download them...FOR FREE! See a pattern here? So far there isn't much there...so please be patient. And lastly, there is the internet...AKA, the world’s LARGEST app store. Seriously, if you need a program, fire up your nearest browser and search away, as I stated above, there are hundreds of thousands of WinMo compatible programs out there, and not all of them are available in marketplaces...so search around!
Q3-AWESOME. IVE GOT SOME PROGRAMS FROM THE INTERNET. NOW, WTF IS THE ".cab" FILE?
A-It is an installer that runs under WinMo. To install programs to your device you must first copy these .cab files onto either your storage card or internal memory and then navigate to them using File Explorer, on your device, and clicking on it. The installer will then start and ask you where to install the program. Unless specifically stated to install the program to internal memory, it’s usually best to install things to your SD card. The more free internal memory you have, generally the faster your device will run as WinMo caches to the internal memory of your device. One of the few exceptions to this is registry hacks or tweaks to internal Windows functions, if asked, go ahead and install those to main memory as installing them to your SD card usually will not yield any results.
Q4-COOL. THAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT ABOUT IF I DOWNLOAD STUFF FROM ONE OF THE MARKETS? WHERE DO THEY INSTALL?
A-If using either the OpnMarket or XDA-Marketplace, after the program is downloaded through the program, the installer will ask you where to install the program to. If using the MS Marketplace, you can change where programs default their install locations to using the Settings menu from the main page. If your storage card is full, or if a program must be installed to main memory, the Marketplace will notify you upon beginning the installation.
Q5-WELL, ARE INSTALLERS CACHED SOMEWHERE?
A-If using the OpnMarket or XDA-Marketplace...yes, they are cached on your storage card. The exact location may vary. And if using the MS Marketplace, no, the installers are not cached and are deleted once the program has been installed.
Q6-I SEE SCREENSHOTS OF PEOPLE's HOMESCREENS THAT LOOK AWESOME AND DIFFERENT THEN MINE...HOW DO I MAKE MINE LOOK THAT WAY?
A-Well that depends. There are several different homescreen replacements available for Windows Mobile. In no particular order the ones I know of and have experience with are:
#1-Titanium-The basic WinMo 6.5 homescreen, also known as "Sliding Panels Homescreen"
#2-Sense-The stock homescreen that comes with a stock ROM on the HD2, used to be known as TouchFlo3D
#3-Today Screen-The AMAZINGLY old and standard WinMo homescreen from back in the day of WinMo 2003. Hasn't changed much over the years, but can be customized with LOADS of plugins
#4-SPB Mobile Shell-A commercial app that offers alot of customization, but in my opinion a massive resource hog for what it does
#5-CHT Sense-A modification of the stock Sense homescreen that comes with your device that offers MUCH more customization than stock. What I usually use personally.
For explanations on the various homescreens, please see the next post!
Alright people, that’s it for now...more to come! Please let me know what to improve!
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SECTION 6-GENERAL HD2 Q&A
We all know that the HD2 runs WinMo, and that WinMo has its share of weirdness...but what about the device itself?
Q1-I JUST GOT A NEW HD2, AND MY RESET BUTTON IS A DIFFERENT COLOR!!!
A-Yep, hopefully it's yellow. The reset button is widely believed to be a hardware revision giveaway, IE, depending on the color is what revision of the device you have. So far 2 different colors are in circulation that we know of, those being RED and YELLOW. The HD2's that have red reset buttons seem to be revision ones, or based off of the Euro hardware, and seem to be more flaky when it comes to touchscreen quality and overall stability. For whatever reason, HD2's with red buttons seem to have touchscreens, mainly the digitizers that are more prone to failure. The second revision HD2's seem to all have yellow reset buttons and as far as we know these are the only ones being produced as of late. Yellow button models seem to be more stable hardware wise, and use a completely different motherboard and touchscreen/digitizer assembly.
Q2-HOW CAN I SIM UNLOCK MY HD2?
A-Well, if you are a T-Mobile customer, then you can do so pretty easily. Simply have an account with them in good standing for 60-90 days and call Customer Care to request an unlock code. It should be sent to your email within 48ish hours. If you are not a T-Mobile customer you can use one of the MANY sources available on the internet to SIM unlock your device...eBay usually has the best deals. Most services cost around 15USD and are instant.
Q3-OKAY I GOT MAH CODE, WHERE DO IT GOEZ?
A-Once you have your code, simply slap a different, non T-Mobile SIM into your HD2 and it will ask for the code upon reboot. If for whatever reason it doesn't ask for the code upon reboot, or you do not have another SIM handy, simply use File Explorer on your device to navigate to the \Windows folder on your phone, then scroll down near the bottom and run a program called "simlock.exe", which will then ask for the code.
Q4-ALRIGHT, MY HD2 IS UNLOCKED...BUT MY SIM ISN'T RECOGNIZED!!!
A-Are you using a prepaid SIM from a service like ATT GoPhone or TracPhone? If you are then that's why you aren't getting any signal. It is the current belief that prepaid SIM cards do not work with US HD2s, but I CANNOT 100% CONFIRM THIS. I say that they don't because of several threads here about trying to use prepaid SIMs, and getting no signal.
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SECTION 7-WARRANTY RETURNS
As much as I would like to say that it doesn't happen, the HD2 does indeed sometimes completely fail because of user error, or just plain hardware faults and must be returned to either T-Mobile or HTC. The warranty process can be a scary one, especially if you HardSPL'd your phone or installed a custom ROM. But fear not! You can get your device back to stock rather easily! In this section I am going to cover the more common HD2 failures and their solutions, as well as how to revert back to your stock carrier ROM and SPL for warranty purposes. Now, this guide assumes that you bought your HD2 from a T-Mobile store and that you are a T-Mobile USA customer. If you purchased your HD2 through an online reseller, or are not with T-Mobile USA, the only option you have is to send your device to HTC directly and have them repair it. See the bottom of this section for more info.
Q1-MY TOUCHSCREEN DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE! WHAT HAPPENED? DID SOMEONE SET ME UP THE BOMB?
A-Where you running Android? For some reason, there seems to be a connection between touchscreen failure and running Android on the HD2. No one currently knows why it happens more often under Android, but it does happen. Please run Android at your own risk. If your screen fails under WinMo, it's more than likely just a strange hardware quirk, and not because of what you are running.
Q2-OKAY WELL NOW MY SCREEN IS BAD, WHAT DO I DO FOR WARRANTY?
A-If you bought your device through a T-Mobile store and it is COMPLETELY STOCK, IE stock SPL and stock ROM, then simply take your phone up to the store you got it from(or any store for that matter) and request that they replace it because the screen seems to be faulty. Most of the time they will have no problem doing so. If your device is NOT in warranty(the warranty period is one year from purchase) you will need to call Customer Care and request they quote you a repair cost. It is usually around 120USD for a new touchscreen includeing shipping, and takes around 4 weeks round trip to be repaired.
Q3-OH NOES! I HAZ CUSTOM ROM! HALPS!
A-No worries. Reverting from a custom ROM to the T-Mobile stock is a fairly simple process, as is reverting back to the stock SPL from HardSPL, and they can be done at the same time with one process. Simply download the latest T-Mobile stock ROM(3.14 as of this writing) extract the .nbh from it and rename it LEOIMG.nbh and place it on the root of your storage card. Then place that card into your device, and start your phone whilst holding down the DOWN volume key to go into bootloader. Follow the onscreen instructions and voila! Stock ROM and SPL in one shot! You are now good to either goto a T-Mobile store and request a new device, or send it back to T-Mobile or HTC for warranty without fears of being denied or paying an extra 50USD for "software restoration".
Q4-WHAT ABOUT A CRACKED SCREEN? IS THAT COVERED?
A-No, cracked screens are NOT covered under either T-Mobile's or HTC's warranty.
Q4.5-BUT I HAVE INSURANCE!
A-Doesn't matter, T-Mobile does not cover cracked or damaged screens, of any kind, under warranty or insurance.
Q5-I BOUGHT MY HD2 THROUGH EBAY, OR FROM ANOTHER SELLER, DOES IT HAVE WARRANTY THROUGH T-MOBILE?
A-Maybe. It all depends on wether the person who bought it originally before reselling it bought it officially through T-Mobile or not. if they did, then again, maybe it does. Warranty status and eligebility also depends on whether you are a T-Mobile customer or not. If you are, then the worst they can tell you is no. Now, if it is NOT covered by T-Mobile, and is less than a year old, it MAY be covered by HTC directly. A call to HTC's warranty department is a harrowing process, so be prepared to be on the phone for at least 30 minutes before you start the call. Goto HTC's website for a phone number for your correct region.
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SECTION 8-MAGDLR AND NANDROID
What's this? MAGDLR? NANDROID? What does that mean? Quite simply friends...MAGDLR is a bootloader that allows Android to be flashed and booted directly from NAND on the HD2.
Q1-WOW! SO I CAN BOOT ANDROID AND WINMO!
A-No. You can boot either or. MAGDLR takes the place of the WinMo loader, and as such, you cannot have MAGDLR flashed and a WinMo ROM on NAND at the same time.
Q2-OKAY, HOW DO I GET IT?
A-From the Android development section. It's a sticky near the top. Be sure to download the latest version for the most compatability.
Q3-GOT IT, FLASHED IT...NOW WHAT?
A-Now, you either flash Android or WP7.
Q4-OKAY, BUT HOW!
A-Read the directions contained within the MAGDLR folder and your NANDroid distro. Basically they are all the same.
Q5-I HATE NANDROID! I WANT TO GO BAQ TO WINMO!
A-Fair enough, simply download the proper stock WinMo ROM for your device and flash it via MicroSD card. Please note that this WILL remove both MAGDLR AND HardSPL, so you will need to re-apply HardSPL if you want to then flash to a custom ROM.
SENSE-Alright. Personally, I like Sense. On the HD2, it works well. ESPECIALLY if you apply cOokies Home Tab, or CHT for short. CHT is an extension of Sense if you will, that adds TONS more functionality to it. I mean really, the customization and flexibility of CHT is HUGE. If you are using Sense, and NOT using CHT, you really owe it to yourself todo so. Once you use CHT you will never go back. It's that good. You can download it from the main HTC LEO section of the forums.
Now, Sense is referred to sometimes as Touchflo, Touchflo3D or Manilla...and essentially it is all of those. The main core of Sense is called Manilla, and it's been around for nigh on 4 years now. TF and TF3D where the older versions of Sense, and basically didn't work unless you had a super bare-bones ROM and a powerful device like the Diamond or Touch Pro, so essentially Sense is just an upgraded Touchflo...but it's also MUCH more than that. While Sense is mainly just a homescreen, its roots go throughout your device. Many times while using the HD2, you will find that Sense-looking programs or pages will often crop up, and that is what is supposed to happen. The only big thing that people don't like about Sense is that it does hog a bit of RAM...about 25MB under normal usage. Sense is everywhere on the HD2 and it's a real shame if you disable it for another homescreen...which brings us to...
TITANIUM-Ahhh Titanium. Windows Mobile 6.5.1 brought us Titanium, which I personally think is a really boss homescreen. If you have a WinMo smartphone device, you might know this as "Sliding Panel Homescreen". Titanium, for what it's worth, is very customizable through plugins and .net programs, but isn't compatible with older WM homescreen plugins. Titanium was basically Microsoft's attempt at making WinMo more finger friendly...and in a way worked, and in a way didn't. See, Titanium starts out on a panel in the middle, which is where all the panels can be interacted with, by scrolling the panels up or down, you bring one into focus at the middle of the screen and can click it, slide it left or right, hit switches on it etc. Not a great description, but hey, sue me. Anyways, the way that it didn't work was that at the time, Titanium was only on devices that had resistive screens, IE, all of them (the HD2 is still the only WinMo device with a capacitive screen) and trying to scroll up or down with your finger was often a game of over or under scrolling trying to get to the item you wanted...and made alot of people (me included) just use the d-pad instead, which kinda defeats the purpose. Titanium looks cool nonetheless, and doesn't use quite as much RAM as Sense, try it out and see for yourself.
TODAY SCREEN-If you have used a WinMo device from around 2-3 years ago, then you more than likely have use the standard WinMo Today screen. It’s basically just a list of things aggregated to your homescreen. Ugly, but functional. It's biggest plus is that it's HIGHLY customizable through the use of plugins. Now I know that I have said that about both Sense and Titanium, but the standard Today screen is BY FAR the most customizable. The reason for this of course, is because it's been around the longest. Seriously, switch over to the Today screen on your HD2. Now...imagine the year 2002...now look at your screen. THAT is what WinMo has looked like since Windows Mobile 2002. Seriously. Not a pretty sight is it? Not really, but through the use of plugins it can be INFINITELY useful. The entire point of the Today screen is to aggregate all your stuff, emails, appointments, missed calls, texts...everything, and show it to you at a quick glance, without having to drill too far into your device, or scroll around a whole lot. There are extensions and plugins for the Today screen like there are snakes in a sugar cane field, so be on the lookout!
SPB MOBILE SHELL-Ugh...SPB. Some swear by and it uses nothing else, others (like me) have always avoided it like the plague. SPB Mobile Shell is a complete UI replacement for much of WinMo, and it's also one of the few that costs. It's around 30USD, but with one purchase you get free updates and can re-download it as many times as you like. SPB not only replaces your homescreen, but your Start menu and most of the settings as well. It makes them all nice, bubbly and shiny...kinda like the iPhone. Personally, I hate the iPhone and everything about it, and as such I hate SPB. But that's not the only reason...SPB is a massive resource hog. Historically SPB has only run on advanced or high end devices, and even on the HD2 it's slow to start, slow to move around...it's just slow overall in my opinion. It does look pretty, and if that's what you want, then go with SPB. SPB can all be customized just like all the others by the use of modules...but these modules are rather few and far between, so there is not a whole lot there. But with CHT in the running for your homescreen, it's kinda hard to justify SPB nowadays, as CHT offer the same amount of customization, for free, and works better overall.
The real true beauty of Windows Mobile is how customizable it is. From things like fonts, to the pixel height of scroll bars...nearly EVERYTHING can be customized to death. All in all, it doesn't really matter what type of homescreen you choose, as they all offer the same basic core functionality, it all comes down to your preference. Do you want flashy? Functional? Stable? Choose accordingly:
HOMESCREEN MATRIX v1.0a(will one day be an inserted Excel spread, use this for now)
[X] represents a point towards the particular homescreen in a given area. [O] represents a point away.
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Today......................[X].........................[X].................FREE...............[O].....
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HTC Sense................[O].........................[O]................FREE...............[X].....
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HTC Sense w/CHT......[X].........................[X]...........DONATIONWARE......[X].....
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SPB Mobile Shell.........[O].........................[O]...........30USD PER LISC......[X].....
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Titanium...................[X].........................[O].......FREE WITH 6.5.1.........[O].....
Now eventually I am going to merge these posts together...and the formatting will be correct! And the color will eventually come back aswell. Stay tuned for more updates!

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Great Post.

Yeah man that would be awesome!

I got 2 question regarding the t-mobile hd2 because I'm thinking to buy one !
I can flesh the international HD2 custom roms that are based on tmous driver ?
If I wanna cook a my personal rom for the t-mobile HD2 the only difference between the standard hd2 and the t-mobile one is that I have to use the driver of the official t-mobile roms instead of the internation hd2 drivers right ?
Android build that boot from memory card can all be installed on t-mobile HD2 or I have to check if they are compatible with t-mobile hd2 like windows mobile ?
Sorry for all this question but I need to know those things !

light_n_roses said:
I got 2 question regarding the t-mobile hd2 because I'm thinking to buy one !
I can flesh the international HD2 custom roms that are based on tmous driver ?
If I wanna cook a my personal rom for the t-mobile HD2 the only difference between the standard hd2 and the t-mobile one is that I have to use the driver of the official t-mobile roms instead of the internation hd2 drivers right ?
Android build that boot from memory card can all be installed on t-mobile HD2 or I have to check if they are compatible with t-mobile hd2 like windows mobile ?
Sorry for all this question but I need to know those things !
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What exactly do you mean by international version? If I had a US and International HD2 I could flash the same custom rom onto both. For example Energy Rom and Chucky Roms. I would have to first change the international HD2 radio to a .50. radio due to them having a .51. radio.
If you provide me with a link to a specific rom I could say yes or now.
These rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 for the most part are compatible with both US and International HD2 devices. With the expectation of a few which are probably International stock rom dumps with a .51. radio.
Custom rom cooking is not at all an easy task. But, yes all the drivers are available online. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592663 is a good source for drivers.
Just because HTC cooked a specific driver into the rom does not mean it's the best. All program / cabs and easliy be found on XDA. Take a look at my sticky and you'll see links to stock cabs that have been extracted from both US and international devices. A good example is the wifi router cab which wasn't released in the US stock rom but was included in the international stock rom. The program / cab can be used on any HD2 device.

I meant the t-mobile version of the HD2 and the standard ( or european version call it how you want ! ) of the HD2, I was asking this because in many rom here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=534 has been specified to not be used on the t-mobile version od the HD2 to avoid brick of the phone..
So I can use rom all rom dased on tmous rom and not the one based on the "radio" series right ?
Is there this difference also for android build or no ?

Android is universal, its only loads from the SDcard.
Can you give me a link to a rom in that thread that you shouldn't load on your phone? I want to see if you know what to look for.
For example the one that say Europe Rom....don't get that one. It's mostly the shipped roms that come with a radio already installed.
If it makes you feel better here the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=624 to what should be an only USA rom thread.

yea I have checked now and it seems that almost all rom are compatible...maybe I have had the bad luck to find one of the few ones that are not compatible the last time I checked...the onyl big problems seems to be the HD2 with 1 GB rom from t-mobile..

plz xplain about USB host, we are all confused

Ok can someone please explain why wp7can run on hd2 but not on desire or sgs
you said it ur self that drivers will have to be written for hd2 because the hardware isnt actually the same so isnt that the case for desire and sgs write new drivers and it should work
i am not an expert and iam not saying give me wp7on my sgs
but i just want to know the reason why it cant be run on other devices
please explain and thanks.
Ps also not saying i wouldnt appreciate wp7 on sgs but it needs to have android working well first

I have a very strange problem and if anyone could help me I'd very much appreciate it as I can't find anything similar in the forums (with a solution) after a month of searching.
My HD2 has HardSPL3 and the ChuckyDroid ROM with Android on an SDCard.
The USB connector on the handset has stopped working (the metal D-shape thing wobbles about) so I cannot flash a ROM to it via the ROM Update Utility, only by the LEOIMG.nbh on an SDCard method works.
I need to send the handset back to Vodafone for a warranty repair, but obviously having HSPL3 and a custom WM ROM invalidates my warranty so I need to flash the stock ROM back to the phone to remove them both.
Problem is that I can flash any custom ROM I find to the handset using the SDCard method (Except Energy ROM's for some reason) but when I try to flash the stock Vodafone ROM using this method it fails to start the phones flash routine.
So I'm stuck with a phone I can't charge (using desktop charger for the battery atm) and I can't send back for repair.
Any ideas?????
Thanks in advance!

faresmasouty said:
Ok can someone please explain why wp7can run on hd2 but not on desire or sgs
you said it ur self that drivers will have to be written for hd2 because the hardware isnt actually the same so isnt that the case for desire and sgs write new drivers and it should work
i am not an expert and iam not saying give me wp7on my sgs
but i just want to know the reason why it cant be run on other devices
please explain and thanks.
Ps also not saying i wouldnt appreciate wp7 on sgs but it needs to have android working well first
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ok so your answer in simple words is NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS IMPOSSIBLE
of course it is possible to have wp7 running on any of the devices , android running on any device, iphone os running on any devices .. provided there are thousands of dedicated developers working on it...
when you see android running on the galaxy s or the desire there are thousands of people which these big companies hire to work for them and develop the operating systems and make it 100% compatible for running on that device
so if you want wp7 to run on samsung galaxy s or any other device its very simple.. hire thousand developers and give them this job of making it compatible for any device u wish simple as that.
the bottom line:- the people who make so many great builds, custom roms, android roms compatible for our devices put hours and months in making their roms .. and thats why please give them respect by not asking such silly questions....

nlo said:
I have a very strange problem and if anyone could help me I'd very much appreciate it as I can't find anything similar in the forums (with a solution) after a month of searching.
My HD2 has HardSPL3 and the ChuckyDroid ROM with Android on an SDCard.
The USB connector on the handset has stopped working (the metal D-shape thing wobbles about) so I cannot flash a ROM to it via the ROM Update Utility, only by the LEOIMG.nbh on an SDCard method works.
I need to send the handset back to Vodafone for a warranty repair, but obviously having HSPL3 and a custom WM ROM invalidates my warranty so I need to flash the stock ROM back to the phone to remove them both.
Problem is that I can flash any custom ROM I find to the handset using the SDCard method (Except Energy ROM's for some reason) but when I try to flash the stock Vodafone ROM using this method it fails to start the phones flash routine.
So I'm stuck with a phone I can't charge (using desktop charger for the battery atm) and I can't send back for repair.
Any ideas?????
Thanks in advance!
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ohhh.... thats really a tricky situation .. may be open up a new thread so that some of the experienced dev's can help u out ..
just copy the whole thing and put it in a new thread.. cozz this post could go unnoticed ...

devabhishek said:
ohhh.... thats really a tricky situation .. may be open up a new thread so that some of the experienced dev's can help u out ..
just copy the whole thing and put it in a new thread.. cozz this post could go unnoticed ...
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Ok, will do.
Any suggestions on which would be the best forum section to post it in?
Thanks!

nlo said:
Ok, will do.
Any suggestions on which would be the best forum section to post it in?
Thanks!
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This one cuz it has more traffic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=532
Have you tried cleaning your usb ports with a toothbrush? Turn off the computer before doing so.

My question is this.
I have the US T-Mo HTC HD 2 of course. Running a Nexus One Android ROM on it.
How do I go about modifying it? Do I have to use the Nexus One themes and apps? Where and how do I install my tweaks?

What kind of tweaks? I've never hear of any tweaks being available for only one certain build.
Tweak away.

ddgarcia05 said:
What kind of tweaks? I've never hear of any tweaks being available for only one certain build.
Tweak away.
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Icons, clocks, taskbar, colorize the black & white stuff....etc
My reasoning is that since it's a N1 based ROM I figured I needed N1 themes.
And as far as tweaking where do I place it on my sd card?

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