Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
I did. Well I was an idiot and bricked my phone and was lucky enough to get it replaced without the $100 deposit (thank you Dustin). I planned on rooting and flashing asap until I literally was about to connect the usb cable into my pc. For now I am staying stock. I may Z4 it to get rid of some stock apps but I am taking a break from the ROM/Modem flashing and theming stuff. My new Epic is running WAY better now then my old one was on DK28. I mainly wanted flash 10 but once I got it I never used it. I thought it would be great for watching HULU in between class or when I take the bus to work but my battery life was only 4hrs and I never could fix it no matter what recommendation I tried. Now my battery lasts all day again. We will see what I do in another week or 2 though lol.
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Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
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Did you try the "Truly Epic Rom" I was on the same boat as you, and was about to switch till I gave that ROM try....Its rocks!!! and its silky smooth!!
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I did. Well I was an idiot and bricked my phone and was lucky enough to get it replaced without the $100 deposit (thank you Dustin). I planned on rooting and flashing asap until I literally was about to connect the usb cable into my pc. For now I am staying stock. I may Z4 it to get rid of some stock apps but I am taking a break from the ROM/Modem flashing and theming stuff. My new Epic is running WAY better now then my old one was on DK28. I mainly wanted flash 10 but once I got it I never used it. I thought it would be great for watching HULU in between class or when I take the bus to work but my battery life was only 4hrs and I never could fix it no matter what recommendation I tried. Now my battery lasts all day again. We will see what I do in another week or 2 though lol.
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Yeah I hear ya!! Hopefully they will come out with the official froyo so I can actually have a decent phone with froyo that actually works without all the head aches.
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Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
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From what I've experienced, there really aren't any issues with DK28 that aren't already in 18. Every Rom I've tried recently (Quantum, Bonsai, Midnight) has been silky smooth and I haven't gotten any FCs, calling glitches or anything you've experienced.
I just think its odd that people blame all their problems on the build. Its understandable if everyone is having the same issues as you, but when you're the odd one out, doesn't that mean you're the one thats the problem?
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From what I've experienced, there really aren't any issues with DK28 that aren't already in 18. Every Rom I've tried recently (Quantum, Bonsai, Midnight) has been silky smooth and I haven't gotten any FCs, calling glitches or anything you've experienced.
I just think its odd that people blame all their problems on the build. Its understandable if everyone is having the same issues as you, but when you're the odd one out, doesn't that mean you're the one thats the problem?
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Well when Im looking through the threads and Im reading the titles that people post who are experiencing the same issues as I am and many others on this site, then I would assume its the build and not just one particular person. Not to mention its a leak.....Its not even an official release so for you to sit here and claim that it is more STABLE than the STOCK BUILD or anywhere close, you sound like a fan/groupie of DK28 rather than a person who is speaking from knowledge. There are more people on this thread than me who have been experiencing more than a few issues with the "leaked" froyo. When dialing out and sometimes the call not going through or you can talk but cant hear is a KNOWN ISSUE with the "BUILD" that even the devs are curious about. Never had an issue like that on the stock BUILD. Anyways like I said F DK28.
For me, Quantum 2.1 is more stable than the stock ever was. It's not fanboy speak, it's that we know what we're doing and it's pretty obvious that Froyo is much faster. Maybe Froyo doesn't work as well on older revisions of the Epic hardware, I know I got mine in December rather than when it was first released. But for me, it is much better than the crappy stock rom which is bloated with Sprint garbage.
Do we all care about if someone flashes back. It seems like posts like this keep clutterng up the forums. It makes it really difficult to search. Who cares u went back to stock. Mod please delete thread.
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So what your telling me is that the pre-release version of a ROM is more buggy and less stable then a final product. Got ya.
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Do we all care about if someone flashes back. It seems like posts like this keep clutterng up the forums. It makes it really difficult to search. Who cares u went back to stock. Mod please delete thread.
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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Exactly! I have been flashing my phone since I had my Touch Pro so I know all about leaks and the benefits they bring to a hardcore phone user like myself. I enjoyed DK28 for sometime now and it seems like the more people do to it the more some things stop working. I just got to the point where I was just tired of constantly updating the ROM with the newer version because the dev "FIXED" another DK28 issue. I appreciate all of their hard work. I even donated to a few of them because they made me love my Epic again with all these new EXT4 and no journaling mods. My phone has never been so fast and snappy......But at the end of the day when I need to use my phone I dont need it to do a random reboot or even worse miss a call because the other person cant hear me which is a very common problem some users are having. Although now that I am back on the DI18.......Its hard to find all those cool mods that I have been so used to. lol. Decisions decisions.
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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If he wanted to share his experience then he should have searched for one of the other threads that has already been started about this topic instead of starting yet another one.
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Well when Im looking through the threads and Im reading the titles that people post who are experiencing the same issues as I am and many others on this site, then I would assume its the build and not just one particular person. Not to mention its a leak.....Its not even an official release so for you to sit here and claim that it is more STABLE than the STOCK BUILD or anywhere close, you sound like a fan/groupie of DK28 rather than a person who is speaking from knowledge. There are more people on this thread than me who have been experiencing more than a few issues with the "leaked" froyo. When dialing out and sometimes the call not going through or you can talk but cant hear is a KNOWN ISSUE with the "BUILD" that even the devs are curious about. Never had an issue like that on the stock BUILD. Anyways like I said F DK28.
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Way to get defensive without backing your claims. There are also much more than a few people who aren't experiencing the same problems you are. I've never even heard of the dial out bug nor experienced it in any flash. If you don't want to work to get a good beta experience, why are you even on XDA and flashing in the first place? I find that DK28 isn't perfect, but its still leaps and bounds better than stock.
You have problems? Try to get them fixed, reflash or ask some questions on the Q&A. Don't just blame it on the build. Basic rule of thumb? If majority don't have the same problem you're having, double check what you've done or reflash.
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So what your telling me is that the pre-release version of a ROM is more buggy and less stable then a final product. Got ya.
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These are Samsung builds so I don't thinks there's really a difference between a alpha/beta/RC and a final build!
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These are Samsung builds so I don't thinks there's really a difference between a alpha/beta/RC and a final build!
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight
To use the OS "windows" as an analogy for you...
How do you think the bugs get found and fixed? When Vista (or any OS for this matter) was in Beta 1 / Beta 2 stage... guess what? It had MORE BUGS / glitches then the version that was released to the public. When it went to RC stage, it had less bugs then the beta. When it went to RTM (the version released to the public) it had less buts the beta and the rc.
Nothing will ever be 100% bug free, but to say you dont think there is a difference between alpha/beta/rc and final builds is very VERY naive of you.
P.S. if you were being sarcastic, my bad lol
Actually MS betas don't work that way, they release betas and continue to fix the bugs they are allowed to fix and run 100000 regression scripts and if any regressions are found they actually unfix the bug and attempt a different fix for it.
Eventually they end up releasing a few release candidates and end up picking the least buggy of these to promote to RTM.
I have a number of friends who work as SDE/Ts for MS, this is how it goes.
Also -- it's very possible that an updated code branch has more bug fixes than bugs introduced on smaller projects (like Android customizations) versus something huge like Windows.
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You have problems? Try to get them fixed, reflash or ask some questions on the Q&A. Don't just blame it on the build. Basic rule of thumb? If majority don't have the same problem you're having, double check what you've done or reflash.
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Seriously? Don't you think if the build was so perfect, Sprint would have released it by now?
Fact: There are bugs in DK28. Congrats that you aren't experiencing them.
I personally experience the calling out bug, but not the GPS bug. My accelerometer was jacked up for a while when I moved to DK28 until I found a good workaround (and no, the simple "recalibrate in the terminal method" didn't work). HOWEVER, the benefits to me are greater than the disadvantages of having these bugs in DK28.
This is a forum - the OP was sharing his experience. What kind of forum would it be if no one was able to share there personal experiences with the phone we all have?
Cut the guy some slack.
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Seriously? Don't you think if the build was so perfect, Sprint would have released it by now?
Fact: There are bugs in DK28. Congrats that you aren't experiencing them.
I personally experience the calling out bug, but not the GPS bug. My accelerometer was jacked up for a while when I moved to DK28 until I found a good workaround (and no, the simple "recalibrate in the terminal method" didn't work). HOWEVER, the benefits to me are greater than the disadvantages of having these bugs in DK28.
This is a forum - the OP was sharing his experience. What kind of forum would it be if no one was able to share there personal experiences with the phone we all have?
Cut the guy some slack.
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So... you had a bug and you looked around and found a way to fix it. Congrats. Thats exactly what my advice was.
I've had FC problems on prior Rom flashes before. I reflashed and took my time to fix it. My phone runs smoothly now. I could just Odin DI18 and blame it all on DK28, but like most people, I took the time to get it right. If it were an OTA upgrade, you could blame it on the build, but its a Rom, so take the time to get it running and like you said yourself, there are plenty of people to help with good workarounds.
I don't understand all the pandering and hand holding thats encouraged in these forums. You encourage whining and then complain when there is so much of it. How about encouraging these same people to go out and improve their phones instead of coddling them?
+1 Theres so many resources and answers theres no reason to not have a sweet running,personalized non buggy phone on dk28
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I'm guessing that a good handful of us enjoy using our Vibe's in stock config, and only wish for "good" performance with less instance of lags, burps etc. We drool over the idea of rooting, applying OCLF and such things, but don't want to risk a blowout! IE, "Add another brick to the pile".
Myself, I'm choosing to wait for the Froyo update - before committing to a root/lag fix attempt.
Can we have sum input on what might be anticipated with the 2.2 update a far as performance for the Vibe? Has NE1 managed to put Froyo on a stock Vibrant - if so, I venture that an "In House" eval would be appreciated by many
Running froyo right now. There was just an unofficial leak of the tmo froyo for our vibes, and the fixes are being ported to existing roms, and being used as source for new builds as well. Its here, and its frozen goodness. A little research (ok maybe not a little, know what youre doing before you do it, make sure you can get into recovery and dl mode, and read read read) before you flash, and soft bricks can be either avoided or easily recovered from. Check out the Vibrant Android Dev forum here at xda to see your icy opions. I prefer Eugene's Macnut myself, there are a couple of other flavors currently that are nice in their own ways, but you gotta try em to find out.
Performance wise, the stock tmo froyo leak itself is faster and smoother than eclair running oc with any lag fix in my experience. The custom froyo roms (macnut and such) are even faster, with no lag fixes applied or existing ones disabled.
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I used to be all about rooting. Had a Hero when it first came out for Sprint. Loved flashing new ROMs and what not. Had CM6 on it before I jumped ship to T-Mobile and the Vibrant. I had rooted but always ended up going back to stock ROM because I like the way it looks and with launcherpro it seems to run better than Touchwiz. Ive yet to find a ROM on here that I really like. I Odined back to stock for the JI6 and Have been running it ever since.
I will probably re-root when the official 2.2 comes out but Im playing the waiting game on these leaked ROMs.
As far as the leaked 2.2 roms go, I'd have to say that I am currently running onyx by teamwhiskey, and it is awesome! It has a lot of fixes but still feels very much like stock.
You should give that a try, oh and don't worry about bricking your phone, odin is your friend and the anti-bricker!
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Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Everyone's experience is different, and everyone's tastes are different too.
So far, it's been a smooth sailing with Onyx for me after SD_Fix.zip was applied.
FROYO goodness on my Vibrant, loving it!
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Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Macnut R10, not entirely jk2 based but drivers to fix the gps and data issues ere ported over, not sure what else was, is not buggy at all. Running the zeam launcher, no lag. Its honestly the most stable froyo out right now, ive tried them all. Earlier ones were definitely buggy, but the new leaked files fixed all that on my phone.
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heygrl said:
Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Try the ASOP ROM from Anderdroid yet? I'm running that one and it's very smooth and responsive. It looks very clean in my opinion.
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Macnut R10, not entirely jk2 based but drivers to fix the gps and data issues ere ported over, not sure what else was, is not buggy at all. Running the zeam launcher, no lag. Its honestly the most stable froyo out right now, ive tried them all. Earlier ones were definitely buggy, but the new leaked files fixed all that on my phone.
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i take it you don't use wifi calling then? in macnut r10, wifi calling gets stuck at enabling (which is one of the reported problems in that thread).
OP: I have the ODIN froyo running on my vibrant right now. It's nice and smooth for me (and will be for you too if you haven't been running lagfixes in 2.1). I get nice battery, and nice reception. a plus for me, is i can turn off data (since i don't have a data plan) and not use battery constantly trying to communicate with 3g/edge.
The only thing i notice on 2.2, is the occasional lag. but that's about it.
Is there a limitation when installing apps? When I was trying ROM's last night and installed apps, it seemed like I was limited to about 3 app download/install at a time?
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i take it you don't use wifi calling then? in macnut r10, wifi calling gets stuck at enabling (which is one of the reported problems in that thread).
OP: I have the ODIN froyo running on my vibrant right now. It's nice and smooth for me (and will be for you too if you haven't been running lagfixes in 2.1). I get nice battery, and nice reception. a plus for me, is i can turn off data (since i don't have a data plan) and not use battery constantly trying to communicate with 3g/edge.
The only thing i notice on 2.2, is the occasional lag. but that's about it.
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Nope, I do not use wifi calling. Seeing how that is new to the phone, I woud expect it to be buggy. The next release from Eugene shoud be based on jk2, might fix that problem. We can't really expect the new fuctions from tmo to be perfect until we get an official release.
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Nope, I do not use wifi calling. Seeing how that is new to the phone, I woud expect it to be buggy. The next release from Eugene shoud be based on jk2, might fix that problem. We can't really expect the new fuctions from tmo to be perfect until we get an official release.
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in macnut r9, wifi calling worked perfectly (no enabling hanging issues). it broke in r10.
The only reason I wonder is because the charging dock still doesn't work with audio out, which was a promised feature.
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The only reason I wonder is because the charging dock still doesn't work with audio out, which was a promised feature.
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I have been trying to figure that out myself... Yesterday (or should i say Saturday) dk28 was speculated as an RC... Then I hear its the final version of froyo... I too am very confused.. Seems to be a lot of people with a lot of problems but who knows...
No way this is final.
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The only reason I wonder is because the charging dock still doesn't work with audio out, which was a promised feature.
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I think that will come with a separate software update from the dock software.
If were on the leaked froyo right now will our phone still pick up the ota update when sprint releases the final?
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If were on the leaked froyo right now will our phone still pick up the ota update when sprint releases the final?
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Nope.
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Considering its on Google servers and an OTA we know its at least an RC...as for whether its a final or not depends on Sprint...
In my opinion this rom is stable enough to release...its true its not 100% perfect but sprint isn't looking for 100% perfect..it just has to be decent enough...
I'm sure most of the problems were caused by people not wiping or restoring their old data which conflicts...thats not to say that there is no bugs of course...
I heard a rumor by a credible source (unless he was just running interference) that dk28 was never going to be released and the final was going to be dl07 which is tomorrow
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I heard a rumor by a credible source (unless he was just running interference) that dk28 was never going to be released and the final was going to be dl07 which is tomorrow
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noobnl had posted that DL03 was supposed to be originally, but that may have changed. I also think dk28 was a slip and wasn't intended to go live even for test units.
I'm not sure but honestly froyo has given me very few problems.
The only few I've countered is with random services popping up and samsung widgets disappearing.
I've had a few checkers in the browser, but very rarely.
Overall, its dk28. It seemed ready and it is for the most part, but I had expect an update soon.
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Hi all. Take a look at the following link. It will take you to the Sprint community forum where admin has said that Sprint has not released the update. I cannot post a link as I am a new member, so you will have to remove the spaces within the url:
http :// community .sprint . com /baw/thread/52621;;jsessionid=9BEC6DB99682579B9B0174B54A8C6CEA.app4jive1?INTNAV=SUP:CO
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No way is DK28 a final RC. It left my GPS in zero condition, the Gallery crashed while UL some pics to Facebook necessitating a battery removal to reboot. There were no user problems here as I flashed a tar file.
That makes me wonder if froyo had a more negative effect on rooted or pre peviously rooted users. I have never rooted and i updated from the stock. The problems I've had are very little.
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noobnl had posted that DL03 was supposed to be originally, but that may have changed. I also think dk28 was a slip and wasn't intended to go live even for test units.
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How would you make a slip like that? I think it was intended for test units at the very least...
DL03 is possible I guess but DL07 sounds a little strange as its only December 6th...
Of my year and a half with android phones, this is the biggest piece of crap update I've ever seen. I didn't make it 24 hours before the lag started really making me mad. I went back to di18 then nandroid restore. I'm going to wait awhile and see what happens. Maybe.
This is not the official update
The OP is correct. In multiple posts at Sprint's own user forum yesterday, the Sprint admin clearly denied that there has been an official update.
I posted links to those Sprint statments on multiple threads here, but few seem to pay attention. The DK28 downloads we are seeing are a leak, not an official release.
Conspiracy theory time: we're all public RC testers. Sprint allowed that file to be put on Google's servers knowing that somebody here would find it, and knowing that we here will have our phones in all range of possible configurations - from stock to stock/rooted to fully customized. They may not get very scientific data from our experience but they'd get a lot of anecdotal data to add to whatever data they've collected themselves through their own testing.
If this is a RC, they may have thought all of the bugs were worked out and are now seeing some new ones that they didn't know about. We've all tried various things before to get our GPS to work and maybe something we've done is responsible for breaking it completely in DK28... and that's something they might not have known would happen.
Other than the GPS death, though, I've had no problems with DK28. After the painful process of reverting to DI18, re-updating and then restoring all my apps and settings, everything now works (except MediaHub, which is actually a blessing) and the UI is smooth and fast for me.
My gps Is working flawlessly, snag had since the moment I flashed dk28 maybe it is the rom you are using.
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I don't believe dk28 is final myself. It just doesn't perform as good as di18. The only improvement for me has been working GPS. Flash is not a big deal to me. Games like Asphalt are jittery and glitchy. The UI is a bit laggy and jittery as well. These are issues that should have been resolved even in a RC. As it stands now, if this is the final release, I'm gonna roll back to a custom 2.1 ROM and wait for an improved version of Froyo(or Gingerbread lol)
Its not the final. Wish people would stop claiming that it is and confusing new XDA members. There are too many problems with DK28 and DI18 was too stable and polished a release for samsung to truly consider this an upgrade.
So here I sit, on the fence, with my rooted stock Epic.
Nothing has really substantiated the rumors of Froyo for the 21st, and that just makes me think it's not coming (and if SamsungJohn was going to finally say something substantial, a yea or nay would be a nice start).
But this is not a thread about the OTA.
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
ViperRom 4.0.4 looks damn sweet... love the ViperWheel widget... but it was held up from its Monday release (are they waiting for source code drop too?). And there is Midnight and Nebula which I kinda like also.
I guess I could start the process of checking them out.
Or I could just sit here and wait. I'm going out of town this weekend and probably should leave things alone until I get back home.
Until then I ask anyone who is running those ROMs... would I lose Swype if I switch ROMs? I really like Swype...
I am stock/rooted, pretty much in the same situation. Will wait until the end of the month if no stock Froyo materializes will look into roms and modding a bit. I depend on my phone's functions all working for my business and would rather not take a chance that I will lose functionality by flashing to the Froyo leak.
i was waiting like you guys til the other week and i went to bonsai, and everything is working superbly.
I was getting sick of stock rom and 2.1, not being able to have hulu or flash as well as a few apps that are must have like Humans vs aliens as well as Andy-83.
Im now just waiting for the official source so it can be improved, but ive had no issues on bonsai and reccomend it, if you want something fast and clean..
give the latest midnight a shot it works really good just wipe 3x before loading and be happy. swype works for me just have to switch text imput method from gb to swype.
Soooo. Oh., before that... I am so glad I rooted and mod. I ran midnight ... and cut my teeth on the ext4 .... the cwm .... and after root and rom messed around with themes. After my ver of midnight got a few weeks old I switched to bonzai and I love it too... it just works. Wait a few ... but its worth it.
Btw ... will we have to wait a while for the new stock 2.2 to get rooted or... is once root always root? Curious.
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VIPERrom 4.0.4 does look sweet. I'm currently running FRoZen 4.0.3, and it has been great. I highly recommend the VIPERroms. I be jonesin' for that 4.0.4 son!
I use Frankenstein.
Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
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Also you can just copy the swype.apk from /system/app
Can't he?
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ROM's
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
could try the Syndicate Rom, for 2.1.... see how fast the 2.2.1 roms WILL be after source... but other than that, they are all stable from what I read, some people have a few issues, depends a lot on you though. If you have a ton of stuff to reinstall after a clean wipe, might as well wait out the weekend, not for an OTA, slim chance there... but just so you have time.... sometimes things take longer, you may go thru 5 roms before you find the one you like... etc.
lazyart said:
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
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DK28 is buggy but it is better than 2.1 by far. You really don't lose anything by going with one of the available ROMs right now. Presumably they will all have an update once the new version is sent out from Sprint (whether it be on the 21st or not). If you're running a custom 2.2 ROM, you'll just do a CWM backup, update to the newer version of whichever ROM you like, and then restore your data.
I went back and forth between Quantum and Bonsai ROM today. It takes no more than 10 minutes to fully swap ROMs. Just do it, you'll be glad you did. And if a new version of 2.2 comes out in the next 5 days, it will only take a few minutes (max) of your time to upgrade to it.
A_Flying_Fox said:
Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
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What bugs are u getting? I running bonsai and have no issues.. even got Tue pre8 wireless tether working perfectly ...
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SF-IT-Guy said:
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
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Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
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Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
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Bonsai is bare minimum and is great to add your own stuff and themes and its stable and fast, and for me the pre8 new wifi tethering app wits great, I live this rom!!!
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lazyart said:
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
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More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
lazyart said:
More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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No need to odin,odin only if nothing else works!
In ur case pull out bettery,put it back in,hold power+vol down+camera to get back into cmw3 and try again.
This will save you some time.
Everyone should be warned of one MAJOR issue. If you use you phone for primary internet access anywhere you go; whether at home or at work or wherever. The tethering drops you no matter what you use at random. It is very frustrating and annoying. If it wasn't for this I'd be 100% satisfied with nebula already; but it isn't the rom's problem, it's with DK28. Some people use wireless tethering but I cannot with 2 different desktops I use my phone for internet connectivity.
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More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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Make sure you watch some of Randy Shear's videos on youtube if you're new at this. He very slowly goes through many of the basic steps in putting a new rom on your phone. If you skip a step you cause yourself triple work. Just take your time and watch a few of his video's and just put the rom on your want. His Viper Apoc 4.0.2 video is excellent.
I've been reading through the forums here and I think I have a little bit of info on custom roms and kernels etc. but I've never put one on my phone. The most I've ever done was root which was enough for me for a while but I've recently started getting a little sick of lag and 4g/gps issues for some reason I can't tether, and the hard keyboard skipping is annoying. I was eagerly waiting for froyo to help with these issues but it doesn't seem to have helped in some cases which make me nervous to go to Froyo before the bugs are worked out.
My question is this...is there a rom out that anyone could suggest thats easy to put on the epic for a noob but can also take care of the issues I'm having and be fairly stable? Or should I wait for Sprint/Sammy to fix the Froyo issues if they're doing that? Or just wait for the EB13 roms to be fully tested and worked out before I do anything? :/
Sorry if this is a pretty vague question, I was leaning towards the newest version of midNIGHT since people seem to have good feedback on that and the dev seems pretty responsive to the public but bonsai and viper both seem like pretty good prospects as well...any info would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks
I don't think any of the roms will help with hard keyboard skipping. If you're a fast texter its always going to be present, at least it has for me.
What 4G problem are you having? As for GPS, some people can't get theirs to work regardless of what they try. Others (myself included), have gotten it fixed with almost instant locks by using some of the available roms or doing the master reset in one of the threads here, that's what fixed it for me.
I say dive in and try something out so you get a feel for what's available. Try out a DK28 rom, they all run pretty good and EB13 introduced some new bugs. If you can read and follow directions, you'll be just fine
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If you don't really know what you are doing and you're still on 2.1, I would say to stick with a 2.1 based rom. There are plenty of souped up roms available. If you want a 2.2 based rom and you're not confident in what you're doing, I would say use Odin to flash the dk28 based froyo. Then, flash midnight or bonsai. People seem to clamor for those 2 for stability and debloat. There are others that are great, but have more things installed.
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I don't think any of the roms will help with hard keyboard skipping. If you're a fast texter its always going to be present, at least it has for me.
What 4G problem are you having? As for GPS, some people can't get theirs to work regardless of what they try. Others (myself included), have gotten it fixed with almost instant locks by using some of the available roms or doing the master reset in one of the threads here, that's what fixed it for me.
I say dive in and try something out so you get a feel for what's available. Try out a DK28 rom, they all run pretty good and EB13 introduced some new bugs. If you can read and follow directions, you'll be just fine
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Thanks for the insight and I was thinking about just diving in myself :/ I just get nervous I'm going to screw up my phone or lose some data or something but I think I'll try a DK28 Rom really soon, just not sure which one yet. Would you say they all run fairly better than stock Eclair?
As for the 4G issue it never stays connected. My GF has an evo shift and in the same room she connects and stays connected with good speeds and everything and mine always disconnects right away. GPS isn't that bad on my phone right now however theres the occasional times when it can't lock which is very annoying.
Thanks for the help though!
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If you don't really know what you are doing and you're still on 2.1, I would say to stick with a 2.1 based rom. There are plenty of souped up roms available. If you want a 2.2 based rom and you're not confident in what you're doing, I would say use Odin to flash the dk28 based froyo. Then, flash midnight or bonsai. People seem to clamor for those 2 for stability and debloat. There are others that are great, but have more things installed.
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Yeah, thats most likely what I'll do. Those were definitely my top choices from reading through the forums and seeing what each had to offer. I'll have to wait for the EB13 builds to become a little bit more stable before I flash to any of those. I definitely need to just stick with what works right now and not testing, since I'm such a noob :/
Thanks for the feedback though, I'm starting to get rom fever as we speak How long does it take to flash to the dk28 then to midnight? I wanna know when I'll have the time to Also, you think you could point me in either direction of the odin flash for dk28 and/or the midnight version for that build?
Thanks again
You may want to try this for the 4G issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
As far as Roms, I definitely agree that Midnight and Bonsai are great roms. You may want to search for the Genocide kernel under the development section too to help with lag. Once you get started flashing roms, it might become an addiction! Good luck!
caspertodd said:
You may want to try this for the 4G issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925898
As far as Roms, I definitely agree that Midnight and Bonsai are great roms. You may want to search for the Genocide kernel under the development section too to help with lag. Once you get started flashing roms, it might become an addiction! Good luck!
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Awesome! Thanks guys for all the feedback, I'll definitely be using all of this because I've really been looking to maximize my usage on the phone and the lag and 4g issues havent been helping. I'll definitely have to look up some more info on the Genocide kernel for sure.
Am I weird that I actually kind of hope it does become an addiction? haha
Headache after headache after headache since I got the Froyo OTA.
Lots of freezes causing me to pull the battery several times a day. Also the battery power drains so quick I can't even come up with a comparison. Then don't get me started the 3G going down all the time...this is f***ing ridiculous. I did root it but I have seen no change. I have even disabled the bloatware...anyone have any suggestions for me.
Much thanks in advance,
Doc
You can try odining back to DL09 or whatever, re-update OTA, and see if the problem happens again...
If not, I would just leave it stock and return it to verizon with the 1 year warranty
Ive had the same issue! I rerooted and flashed evil fascination and I am not having hardly any problems. Ive had a few forcecloses but nothing like what came with stock froyo
My girlfriend is having the same issue after i MADE her update to the OTA 2.2. Text messages dont get sent and it is very laggy. The whole phone is too slow to use so i plan on flashing a custom rom or going back to 2.1 with odin. What roms are pretty similar to stock that maintain that whole touchwiz feel?
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Did you perform a factory reset? That seemed to fix a few problems.
For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
Dread This Day said:
For starters, this is common. The stock Froyo update screwed a lot of people up. Next, simply rooting it doesn't *FIX* anything, all it does is give you the ability to run Apps as Administrator, giving you more power/control. So, you rooted it, that wasn't going to fix your issues. Flash a custom ROM. I personally recommend the Community ROM. If after flashing a different ROM, after wiping Cache, Dalvik Cache, and user data, etc. you still encounter the same issues, then yes, I'd exchange it.
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Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I am currently running the ota 2.2 froyo update...only thing I have done is root and debloat and the phone is very fast! Only issue I have is google voice search force closes.
I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
4GivenByChrist said:
I think the update is fast... but despite what rom I use there is still intermittent gps issues, voice and data issues even on the first warranty replacement. Dropped calls in solids 4 bar territory on stock or dev roms and 3g fading un and out even after the dmu fix. All issues never had before the update.
Waiting on a call to see if I can get a better replacement option. No interest in Palm, BB or the Dinc Droid Pro or DX they want me to take as a replacement.
Out of the DInc2 Charge and TBolt which is the best options in my fellow forum friends minds. Have my own looking for outside opinions to consider depending on the options I am offered.
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Download the app "gps booster". Seem to fix my gps issue... locks in quick and within 10ft. As far as the signal issue, I had the same thing until I replaced the stock battery cover. have yet to drop any calls and my 3g is alot better now! I am absolutely impressed with this phone since doing these little "tweaks"! O and I vote droid charge if your dead set on a replacement! Seems to have better battery and display over the other two.
sccafun said:
My GF is having OTA 2.2 pains also...signal issues may be due to network, but also noticed lag, camera issues (black screen and force closure when camera opened)...text not received...probably will root and flash custom ROM...if she lets me..LOL....
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I heard that! My girl is hesitant to let me do anything to her phone after she saw the learning curve i went through with my captivate haha
bmeek said:
Common? Really?
About the same time as the ota froyo was released, verizon had a bunch of 3g & 4g data issues on their network (perhaps it was shortly thereafter).
Otherwise, I see as many posts about the surprisingly good performance of the current stock rom as I see reports of issues.
No offence to the op, but we have no idea how these rooted phones have been messed with before the complaints are conveyed...
So I agree with the suggestion to odin back to a stock pit/modem/kernel/rom and let the ota process repeat from a clean start. From that result, flash a solid voodoo kernel, enable lag fix, pick your favorite rom, etc...
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I stated nothing about the the OP's 3G outtage, any of us who are techy-like at all or who pay attention know what that was about. I was referring to their other issues. And I agree, MANY people have great performance after updating to stock 2.2, while many others are also getting screwed up. It's just one of those things. The OP wasn't one of the lucky, so, either Odin back and try the update again, or go custom ROM.
Well I have a couple DInc2s coming next week.
Really have to send the love to all the Devs who have made the Fascinate fascinating. Just can't wait on Sammy and VZW to get the tools in the hands of the devs to make the most of these phones.
Almost went TBolt but don't want to extend the contract until there are more 4g phones out there.
Wife is excited about FFC so happy wife will be good for me
Would have preferred to stick with the Fascinate but a couple replacements later and even the great roms and kernels couldn't get it to where it should be. Here's hoping that good source drips for everyone soon.
So for free and no contract extension I'll check out HTC...
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I did OTA Froyo update on a stock fascinate and my battery also began draining rapidly, about 8-10 hour life in standby I finally figured out that it was the built in facebook sync that was doing it, I had earlier turned off all syncing then noticed fb synced new events to my calendar after that so I completely removed my fb account and now its back to the ~2days of battery life with light use I had with 2.1. Not sure if this is what everyone else is experiencing with battery life problems but its worth a shot. I haven't tried putting my fb account back up to see if it happens again, I'm going to wait until I get around to rooting to do that.
I swear I had these issues with 3g data out completely. This fixed it in 3 minutes. ESN Swap to repartition data. No BS need for another phone.
http://totalhack.ws/esnswap.html
Hope this helps.
Well... Been using the DInc2 for over a day now... Short time but very evident that there is a major issue post update on the Fascinate. Right back to the great download and upload speeds I had pre ed01. No ATT like dropped calls, etc.
Without voodoo quadrant scores on stock in the 1400 - 1600 range consistently.
Just a huge thanks to all our awesome Fascinate developersfor making it a great phone while I had it.
Hope the DInc2 developers are as committed and talented as this team. Right now they are working on getting perma root....
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