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I'm guessing that a good handful of us enjoy using our Vibe's in stock config, and only wish for "good" performance with less instance of lags, burps etc. We drool over the idea of rooting, applying OCLF and such things, but don't want to risk a blowout! IE, "Add another brick to the pile".
Myself, I'm choosing to wait for the Froyo update - before committing to a root/lag fix attempt.
Can we have sum input on what might be anticipated with the 2.2 update a far as performance for the Vibe? Has NE1 managed to put Froyo on a stock Vibrant - if so, I venture that an "In House" eval would be appreciated by many
Running froyo right now. There was just an unofficial leak of the tmo froyo for our vibes, and the fixes are being ported to existing roms, and being used as source for new builds as well. Its here, and its frozen goodness. A little research (ok maybe not a little, know what youre doing before you do it, make sure you can get into recovery and dl mode, and read read read) before you flash, and soft bricks can be either avoided or easily recovered from. Check out the Vibrant Android Dev forum here at xda to see your icy opions. I prefer Eugene's Macnut myself, there are a couple of other flavors currently that are nice in their own ways, but you gotta try em to find out.
Performance wise, the stock tmo froyo leak itself is faster and smoother than eclair running oc with any lag fix in my experience. The custom froyo roms (macnut and such) are even faster, with no lag fixes applied or existing ones disabled.
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I used to be all about rooting. Had a Hero when it first came out for Sprint. Loved flashing new ROMs and what not. Had CM6 on it before I jumped ship to T-Mobile and the Vibrant. I had rooted but always ended up going back to stock ROM because I like the way it looks and with launcherpro it seems to run better than Touchwiz. Ive yet to find a ROM on here that I really like. I Odined back to stock for the JI6 and Have been running it ever since.
I will probably re-root when the official 2.2 comes out but Im playing the waiting game on these leaked ROMs.
As far as the leaked 2.2 roms go, I'd have to say that I am currently running onyx by teamwhiskey, and it is awesome! It has a lot of fixes but still feels very much like stock.
You should give that a try, oh and don't worry about bricking your phone, odin is your friend and the anti-bricker!
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Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Everyone's experience is different, and everyone's tastes are different too.
So far, it's been a smooth sailing with Onyx for me after SD_Fix.zip was applied.
FROYO goodness on my Vibrant, loving it!
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Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Macnut R10, not entirely jk2 based but drivers to fix the gps and data issues ere ported over, not sure what else was, is not buggy at all. Running the zeam launcher, no lag. Its honestly the most stable froyo out right now, ive tried them all. Earlier ones were definitely buggy, but the new leaked files fixed all that on my phone.
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heygrl said:
Oynx is fugly, and JK2 is a bit too buggy and unrefined in general. It's OK if you want to try it but you'll probably go back to the smoothness of JI6. Apps install better with FroYo but the phone lags badly with any launcher for some reason. I'm waiting for the official release. I also got some odd "No Internet Connection" errors but that might be my fault.
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Try the ASOP ROM from Anderdroid yet? I'm running that one and it's very smooth and responsive. It looks very clean in my opinion.
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Macnut R10, not entirely jk2 based but drivers to fix the gps and data issues ere ported over, not sure what else was, is not buggy at all. Running the zeam launcher, no lag. Its honestly the most stable froyo out right now, ive tried them all. Earlier ones were definitely buggy, but the new leaked files fixed all that on my phone.
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i take it you don't use wifi calling then? in macnut r10, wifi calling gets stuck at enabling (which is one of the reported problems in that thread).
OP: I have the ODIN froyo running on my vibrant right now. It's nice and smooth for me (and will be for you too if you haven't been running lagfixes in 2.1). I get nice battery, and nice reception. a plus for me, is i can turn off data (since i don't have a data plan) and not use battery constantly trying to communicate with 3g/edge.
The only thing i notice on 2.2, is the occasional lag. but that's about it.
Is there a limitation when installing apps? When I was trying ROM's last night and installed apps, it seemed like I was limited to about 3 app download/install at a time?
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i take it you don't use wifi calling then? in macnut r10, wifi calling gets stuck at enabling (which is one of the reported problems in that thread).
OP: I have the ODIN froyo running on my vibrant right now. It's nice and smooth for me (and will be for you too if you haven't been running lagfixes in 2.1). I get nice battery, and nice reception. a plus for me, is i can turn off data (since i don't have a data plan) and not use battery constantly trying to communicate with 3g/edge.
The only thing i notice on 2.2, is the occasional lag. but that's about it.
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Nope, I do not use wifi calling. Seeing how that is new to the phone, I woud expect it to be buggy. The next release from Eugene shoud be based on jk2, might fix that problem. We can't really expect the new fuctions from tmo to be perfect until we get an official release.
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Nope, I do not use wifi calling. Seeing how that is new to the phone, I woud expect it to be buggy. The next release from Eugene shoud be based on jk2, might fix that problem. We can't really expect the new fuctions from tmo to be perfect until we get an official release.
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in macnut r9, wifi calling worked perfectly (no enabling hanging issues). it broke in r10.
I am looking to flash a 2.2 rom but don't know which one is the best, can someone tell me which is the best and why they think it is. Also in order to flash do I just have to wipe and flash or is there something more that I need to do to go from DI18 to DK17?
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Bar none, go with Quantun1.5, stable,quick,clean,and good battery.
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I'm gonna go with epic experience 2.0. Its way smooth and stable.
It's really up to you. Everyone phone handles things differently
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It's really up to you. Everyone phone handles things differently
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Seems to be the trend lately...kinda odd but true.
sirens6 said:
I am looking to flash a 2.2 rom but don't know which one is the best, can someone tell me which is the best and why they think it is. Also in order to flash do I just have to wipe and flash or is there something more that I need to do to go from DI18 to DK17?
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lol i'll take a crack at that even though i'm new here and am still learning my way around.
There are several froyo roms out there right now for the epic; you can read about them in the developer's forum. Then, you should do a little bit of research - such as reading the beginning of posts about rom releases, and then maybe the last few pages, looking for other people's comments about fc's and the like. That will allow you to pick a rom that isn't too beta (that is, will be fairly stable). Or you could pick an unstable rom if that's what you want to play with - it's an open source Android device, baby! Warranty voided of course. Always do a nandroid backup first of course.
Everyone:"Of course!"
What's 'best' for me may not be what's 'best' for you. However, without saying that it's better than any other stable and smooth froyo ROM, I'm currently using VIPERrom DK17 2.6 (haven't tried anything higher yet) with some of my visual/audio mods (changed boot screen and sound, changed shutdown sound, using a battery mod). As I said, I find this rom to be stable and quick but I'm not touting one functional ROM over another - it works well for me right now as a stable, quick froyo rom. Also it didn't have a bunch of stuff I didn't want like sprint bloatware, so that was nice.
To use this rom, as the developer himself states on the first post of his thread, "YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD THE DK17 MODEM AND PIT TO USE THIS ROM!!" For the extremely literal out there, you must ALSO flash your epic with those files after you download them.
The developer, BThomas22x, has kindly included links to the files you'd need on his posting, which you should check out along with the postings from other developers.
I don't really have the experience here to say it without feeling a tad jerkish, but the xda forum is a developer's forum so you should probably be willing to do a little research on your own.
I know this because I'm still posting questions in the wrong places and the like
So a little looking around in the Android Development forum would show you this wiki. That's also a good place to start.
I have been doing my homework and I have seen the wiki, that is why I am now using the Syndicate ROM 1.0.2 DI18 with eXtreme kernel 1.2 and the emotionless beast theme. I just wanted to know peoples opinions as to why they like one froyo ROM over another so that when I choose to flash one I have a basis to judge my decision. Thanks, all your input is very helpful. Anyone else like a particular froyo ROM for one reason or anotherM
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Quantum 1.5 fo sho
Each rom has their own features to each their own.
Ran viper for a few days, but switched to EE for now.
I'm new to the android fam as of today. But the stock version seems to do what i need it to do. I just download skyfire free out of the market place and i can watch everything the froyo 2.2 flash player 10.1 can do. Or maybe im missing something? I need yal to get me up to speed whats the difference besides speed. And please don't chew me out for asking either.
Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
I did. Well I was an idiot and bricked my phone and was lucky enough to get it replaced without the $100 deposit (thank you Dustin). I planned on rooting and flashing asap until I literally was about to connect the usb cable into my pc. For now I am staying stock. I may Z4 it to get rid of some stock apps but I am taking a break from the ROM/Modem flashing and theming stuff. My new Epic is running WAY better now then my old one was on DK28. I mainly wanted flash 10 but once I got it I never used it. I thought it would be great for watching HULU in between class or when I take the bus to work but my battery life was only 4hrs and I never could fix it no matter what recommendation I tried. Now my battery lasts all day again. We will see what I do in another week or 2 though lol.
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Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
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Did you try the "Truly Epic Rom" I was on the same boat as you, and was about to switch till I gave that ROM try....Its rocks!!! and its silky smooth!!
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I did. Well I was an idiot and bricked my phone and was lucky enough to get it replaced without the $100 deposit (thank you Dustin). I planned on rooting and flashing asap until I literally was about to connect the usb cable into my pc. For now I am staying stock. I may Z4 it to get rid of some stock apps but I am taking a break from the ROM/Modem flashing and theming stuff. My new Epic is running WAY better now then my old one was on DK28. I mainly wanted flash 10 but once I got it I never used it. I thought it would be great for watching HULU in between class or when I take the bus to work but my battery life was only 4hrs and I never could fix it no matter what recommendation I tried. Now my battery lasts all day again. We will see what I do in another week or 2 though lol.
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Yeah I hear ya!! Hopefully they will come out with the official froyo so I can actually have a decent phone with froyo that actually works without all the head aches.
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Im so sick of DK28 and all of its issues. I just went back to DI18 Epic Experience. So much more smoother. No lag. No cant hear when calling glitch. No gallery problems. No force closes. No random reboots. NOTHING!! Just a nice smooth phone that I can use and that is reliable!!!!!! Im done with the whole leaked version thing. I wont flash my phone again until the official froyo comes out for the Epic. Good night DK28!!
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From what I've experienced, there really aren't any issues with DK28 that aren't already in 18. Every Rom I've tried recently (Quantum, Bonsai, Midnight) has been silky smooth and I haven't gotten any FCs, calling glitches or anything you've experienced.
I just think its odd that people blame all their problems on the build. Its understandable if everyone is having the same issues as you, but when you're the odd one out, doesn't that mean you're the one thats the problem?
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From what I've experienced, there really aren't any issues with DK28 that aren't already in 18. Every Rom I've tried recently (Quantum, Bonsai, Midnight) has been silky smooth and I haven't gotten any FCs, calling glitches or anything you've experienced.
I just think its odd that people blame all their problems on the build. Its understandable if everyone is having the same issues as you, but when you're the odd one out, doesn't that mean you're the one thats the problem?
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Well when Im looking through the threads and Im reading the titles that people post who are experiencing the same issues as I am and many others on this site, then I would assume its the build and not just one particular person. Not to mention its a leak.....Its not even an official release so for you to sit here and claim that it is more STABLE than the STOCK BUILD or anywhere close, you sound like a fan/groupie of DK28 rather than a person who is speaking from knowledge. There are more people on this thread than me who have been experiencing more than a few issues with the "leaked" froyo. When dialing out and sometimes the call not going through or you can talk but cant hear is a KNOWN ISSUE with the "BUILD" that even the devs are curious about. Never had an issue like that on the stock BUILD. Anyways like I said F DK28.
For me, Quantum 2.1 is more stable than the stock ever was. It's not fanboy speak, it's that we know what we're doing and it's pretty obvious that Froyo is much faster. Maybe Froyo doesn't work as well on older revisions of the Epic hardware, I know I got mine in December rather than when it was first released. But for me, it is much better than the crappy stock rom which is bloated with Sprint garbage.
Do we all care about if someone flashes back. It seems like posts like this keep clutterng up the forums. It makes it really difficult to search. Who cares u went back to stock. Mod please delete thread.
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So what your telling me is that the pre-release version of a ROM is more buggy and less stable then a final product. Got ya.
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Do we all care about if someone flashes back. It seems like posts like this keep clutterng up the forums. It makes it really difficult to search. Who cares u went back to stock. Mod please delete thread.
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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Exactly! I have been flashing my phone since I had my Touch Pro so I know all about leaks and the benefits they bring to a hardcore phone user like myself. I enjoyed DK28 for sometime now and it seems like the more people do to it the more some things stop working. I just got to the point where I was just tired of constantly updating the ROM with the newer version because the dev "FIXED" another DK28 issue. I appreciate all of their hard work. I even donated to a few of them because they made me love my Epic again with all these new EXT4 and no journaling mods. My phone has never been so fast and snappy......But at the end of the day when I need to use my phone I dont need it to do a random reboot or even worse miss a call because the other person cant hear me which is a very common problem some users are having. Although now that I am back on the DI18.......Its hard to find all those cool mods that I have been so used to. lol. Decisions decisions.
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Get off his case. He's sharing his experience on DK28 vs DI18 in case some DI18 users were still on the fence as to whether or not they want to jump to a buggy 2.2.1 build. There's a lot of hate going around these forums and it's the response like what you just gave thats give people a poor outlook of our community.
Personally I've experienced both sides of the argument. I went with DK28 first and killed my gps, flashed back to DI18 and went with ACS for 3 weeks. Got sick of 2.1 and really wanted some 2.2 features back so I went with midNIGHT and a 2.3 theme.
Thanks for your thoughts OP, I share the same concerns but found some of the buggy issues of DK28 to outweigh the bugs and lack of features of DI18. I actually think its funny though because a buggy DK28 makes me want a real stable froyo build even more than being on eclair made me want a 2.2 update lol
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If he wanted to share his experience then he should have searched for one of the other threads that has already been started about this topic instead of starting yet another one.
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youngpro83 said:
Well when Im looking through the threads and Im reading the titles that people post who are experiencing the same issues as I am and many others on this site, then I would assume its the build and not just one particular person. Not to mention its a leak.....Its not even an official release so for you to sit here and claim that it is more STABLE than the STOCK BUILD or anywhere close, you sound like a fan/groupie of DK28 rather than a person who is speaking from knowledge. There are more people on this thread than me who have been experiencing more than a few issues with the "leaked" froyo. When dialing out and sometimes the call not going through or you can talk but cant hear is a KNOWN ISSUE with the "BUILD" that even the devs are curious about. Never had an issue like that on the stock BUILD. Anyways like I said F DK28.
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Way to get defensive without backing your claims. There are also much more than a few people who aren't experiencing the same problems you are. I've never even heard of the dial out bug nor experienced it in any flash. If you don't want to work to get a good beta experience, why are you even on XDA and flashing in the first place? I find that DK28 isn't perfect, but its still leaps and bounds better than stock.
You have problems? Try to get them fixed, reflash or ask some questions on the Q&A. Don't just blame it on the build. Basic rule of thumb? If majority don't have the same problem you're having, double check what you've done or reflash.
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So what your telling me is that the pre-release version of a ROM is more buggy and less stable then a final product. Got ya.
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These are Samsung builds so I don't thinks there's really a difference between a alpha/beta/RC and a final build!
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These are Samsung builds so I don't thinks there's really a difference between a alpha/beta/RC and a final build!
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight
To use the OS "windows" as an analogy for you...
How do you think the bugs get found and fixed? When Vista (or any OS for this matter) was in Beta 1 / Beta 2 stage... guess what? It had MORE BUGS / glitches then the version that was released to the public. When it went to RC stage, it had less bugs then the beta. When it went to RTM (the version released to the public) it had less buts the beta and the rc.
Nothing will ever be 100% bug free, but to say you dont think there is a difference between alpha/beta/rc and final builds is very VERY naive of you.
P.S. if you were being sarcastic, my bad lol
Actually MS betas don't work that way, they release betas and continue to fix the bugs they are allowed to fix and run 100000 regression scripts and if any regressions are found they actually unfix the bug and attempt a different fix for it.
Eventually they end up releasing a few release candidates and end up picking the least buggy of these to promote to RTM.
I have a number of friends who work as SDE/Ts for MS, this is how it goes.
Also -- it's very possible that an updated code branch has more bug fixes than bugs introduced on smaller projects (like Android customizations) versus something huge like Windows.
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You have problems? Try to get them fixed, reflash or ask some questions on the Q&A. Don't just blame it on the build. Basic rule of thumb? If majority don't have the same problem you're having, double check what you've done or reflash.
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Seriously? Don't you think if the build was so perfect, Sprint would have released it by now?
Fact: There are bugs in DK28. Congrats that you aren't experiencing them.
I personally experience the calling out bug, but not the GPS bug. My accelerometer was jacked up for a while when I moved to DK28 until I found a good workaround (and no, the simple "recalibrate in the terminal method" didn't work). HOWEVER, the benefits to me are greater than the disadvantages of having these bugs in DK28.
This is a forum - the OP was sharing his experience. What kind of forum would it be if no one was able to share there personal experiences with the phone we all have?
Cut the guy some slack.
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Seriously? Don't you think if the build was so perfect, Sprint would have released it by now?
Fact: There are bugs in DK28. Congrats that you aren't experiencing them.
I personally experience the calling out bug, but not the GPS bug. My accelerometer was jacked up for a while when I moved to DK28 until I found a good workaround (and no, the simple "recalibrate in the terminal method" didn't work). HOWEVER, the benefits to me are greater than the disadvantages of having these bugs in DK28.
This is a forum - the OP was sharing his experience. What kind of forum would it be if no one was able to share there personal experiences with the phone we all have?
Cut the guy some slack.
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So... you had a bug and you looked around and found a way to fix it. Congrats. Thats exactly what my advice was.
I've had FC problems on prior Rom flashes before. I reflashed and took my time to fix it. My phone runs smoothly now. I could just Odin DI18 and blame it all on DK28, but like most people, I took the time to get it right. If it were an OTA upgrade, you could blame it on the build, but its a Rom, so take the time to get it running and like you said yourself, there are plenty of people to help with good workarounds.
I don't understand all the pandering and hand holding thats encouraged in these forums. You encourage whining and then complain when there is so much of it. How about encouraging these same people to go out and improve their phones instead of coddling them?
+1 Theres so many resources and answers theres no reason to not have a sweet running,personalized non buggy phone on dk28
So here I sit, on the fence, with my rooted stock Epic.
Nothing has really substantiated the rumors of Froyo for the 21st, and that just makes me think it's not coming (and if SamsungJohn was going to finally say something substantial, a yea or nay would be a nice start).
But this is not a thread about the OTA.
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
ViperRom 4.0.4 looks damn sweet... love the ViperWheel widget... but it was held up from its Monday release (are they waiting for source code drop too?). And there is Midnight and Nebula which I kinda like also.
I guess I could start the process of checking them out.
Or I could just sit here and wait. I'm going out of town this weekend and probably should leave things alone until I get back home.
Until then I ask anyone who is running those ROMs... would I lose Swype if I switch ROMs? I really like Swype...
I am stock/rooted, pretty much in the same situation. Will wait until the end of the month if no stock Froyo materializes will look into roms and modding a bit. I depend on my phone's functions all working for my business and would rather not take a chance that I will lose functionality by flashing to the Froyo leak.
i was waiting like you guys til the other week and i went to bonsai, and everything is working superbly.
I was getting sick of stock rom and 2.1, not being able to have hulu or flash as well as a few apps that are must have like Humans vs aliens as well as Andy-83.
Im now just waiting for the official source so it can be improved, but ive had no issues on bonsai and reccomend it, if you want something fast and clean..
give the latest midnight a shot it works really good just wipe 3x before loading and be happy. swype works for me just have to switch text imput method from gb to swype.
Soooo. Oh., before that... I am so glad I rooted and mod. I ran midnight ... and cut my teeth on the ext4 .... the cwm .... and after root and rom messed around with themes. After my ver of midnight got a few weeks old I switched to bonzai and I love it too... it just works. Wait a few ... but its worth it.
Btw ... will we have to wait a while for the new stock 2.2 to get rooted or... is once root always root? Curious.
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VIPERrom 4.0.4 does look sweet. I'm currently running FRoZen 4.0.3, and it has been great. I highly recommend the VIPERroms. I be jonesin' for that 4.0.4 son!
I use Frankenstein.
Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
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Also you can just copy the swype.apk from /system/app
Can't he?
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ROM's
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
could try the Syndicate Rom, for 2.1.... see how fast the 2.2.1 roms WILL be after source... but other than that, they are all stable from what I read, some people have a few issues, depends a lot on you though. If you have a ton of stuff to reinstall after a clean wipe, might as well wait out the weekend, not for an OTA, slim chance there... but just so you have time.... sometimes things take longer, you may go thru 5 roms before you find the one you like... etc.
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I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
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DK28 is buggy but it is better than 2.1 by far. You really don't lose anything by going with one of the available ROMs right now. Presumably they will all have an update once the new version is sent out from Sprint (whether it be on the 21st or not). If you're running a custom 2.2 ROM, you'll just do a CWM backup, update to the newer version of whichever ROM you like, and then restore your data.
I went back and forth between Quantum and Bonsai ROM today. It takes no more than 10 minutes to fully swap ROMs. Just do it, you'll be glad you did. And if a new version of 2.2 comes out in the next 5 days, it will only take a few minutes (max) of your time to upgrade to it.
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Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
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What bugs are u getting? I running bonsai and have no issues.. even got Tue pre8 wireless tether working perfectly ...
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I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
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Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
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Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
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Bonsai is bare minimum and is great to add your own stuff and themes and its stable and fast, and for me the pre8 new wifi tethering app wits great, I live this rom!!!
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lazyart said:
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
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More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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No need to odin,odin only if nothing else works!
In ur case pull out bettery,put it back in,hold power+vol down+camera to get back into cmw3 and try again.
This will save you some time.
Everyone should be warned of one MAJOR issue. If you use you phone for primary internet access anywhere you go; whether at home or at work or wherever. The tethering drops you no matter what you use at random. It is very frustrating and annoying. If it wasn't for this I'd be 100% satisfied with nebula already; but it isn't the rom's problem, it's with DK28. Some people use wireless tethering but I cannot with 2 different desktops I use my phone for internet connectivity.
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More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
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Make sure you watch some of Randy Shear's videos on youtube if you're new at this. He very slowly goes through many of the basic steps in putting a new rom on your phone. If you skip a step you cause yourself triple work. Just take your time and watch a few of his video's and just put the rom on your want. His Viper Apoc 4.0.2 video is excellent.
I know I'm sure I saw this asked already and apologize but I'm completely new to all this and dont know what roms to use or anything. So any suggestions would be awesome. And am I even asking in the right area? Haha
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I have had great luck with bonzai 3.0 with the amosher gingerbread theme. Been using bonzai for a few months now... great feel and great look with the theme.
Esp with the new official froyo..... good luck!
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gregory15 said:
I have had great luck with bonzai 3.0 with the amosher gingerbread theme. Been using bonzai for a few months now... great feel and great look with the theme.
Esp with the new official froyo..... good luck!
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Thanks I'll have to check it when I can get my computer to detect my phone in download mode and or figure out how to do all of this haha
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You'll get lots of differing opinions, here's mine. (I know that this won't make any friends here)
None of the current batch of ROMS is solid yet. They each have a fatal flaw. I've tried a few but ended up back on stock EB13 with the camera fix kernel flashed over it. And frankly if you flash stock EB13 using the Samsung installer it's pretty good right out of the box.
And, regardless of what people tell you flashing an Epic is not trivial for a noob. Just read all the frantic posts from people trying to figure out why their phone won't boot. Before you get started be sure you know what Odin is and how to use it (and which PIT files go with which PDA files), what the difference between EXT4 and RFS is and which version of clockwork you can use with each, and what deodexed means. There are enough variable that you have to get right that a little knowledge can save you hours, maybe days of wasted time.
If you have to try one, read the WHOLE thread before flashing and see what's now working yet. If you decide that doesn't matter to you, flash away.
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You'll get lots of differing opinions, here's mine. (I know that this won't make any friends here)
None of the current batch of ROMS is solid yet. They each have a fatal flaw. I've tried a few but ended up back on stock EB13 with the camera fix kernel flashed over it. And frankly if you flash stock EB13 using the Samsung installer it's pretty good right out of the box.
And, regardless of what people tell you flashing an Epic is not trivial for a noob. Just read all the frantic posts from people trying to figure out why their phone won't boot. Before you get started be sure you know what Odin is and how to use it (and which PIT files go with which PDA files), what the difference between EXT4 and RFS is and which version of clockwork you can use with each, and what deodexed means. There are enough variable that you have to get right that a little knowledge can save you hours, maybe days of wasted time.
If you have to try one, read the WHOLE thread before flashing and see what's now working yet. If you decide that doesn't matter to you, flash away.
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Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the help
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poit said:
You'll get lots of differing opinions, here's mine. (I know that this won't make any friends here)
None of the current batch of ROMS is solid yet. They each have a fatal flaw. I've tried a few but ended up back on stock EB13 with the camera fix kernel flashed over it. And frankly if you flash stock EB13 using the Samsung installer it's pretty good right out of the box.
And, regardless of what people tell you flashing an Epic is not trivial for a noob. Just read all the frantic posts from people trying to figure out why their phone won't boot. Before you get started be sure you know what Odin is and how to use it (and which PIT files go with which PDA files), what the difference between EXT4 and RFS is and which version of clockwork you can use with each, and what deodexed means. There are enough variable that you have to get right that a little knowledge can save you hours, maybe days of wasted time.
If you have to try one, read the WHOLE thread before flashing and see what's now working yet. If you decide that doesn't matter to you, flash away.
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Good advice here.
Regarding roms, I have to say that I think the new SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0 (1.0.1 is almost out) is a solid replacement from stock. People have had issues with bad flashes (thx CW3) but once it's installed properly the battery lasts hours longer, it's incredibly quick, and has a number of improvements over stock. Keep in mind I wasn't using roms before this due to requiring the stability of stock (was on the stock rooted EB13), but am in heaven since I switched over. The rom is amazing. None of the instability issues I have had with my previous phones+roms.
I haven't tried the Bonzai rom though, heard that was stable and good as well.
adrift02 said:
Good advice here.
Regarding roms, I have to say that I think the new SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0 (1.0.1 is almost out) is a solid replacement from stock. People have had issues with bad flashes (thx CW3) but once it's installed properly the battery lasts hours longer, it's incredibly quick, and has a number of improvements over stock. Keep in mind I wasn't using roms before this due to requiring the stability of stock (was on the stock rooted EB13), but am in heaven since I switched over. The rom is amazing. None of the instability issues I have had with my previous phones+roms.
I haven't tried the Bonzai rom though, heard that was stable and good as well.
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Agreed. SyndicateROM seems to be the best and most stable ROM right now. That is until CM7 is done. Then everyone will burn out to Gingerbread.
By the way...did you go with Ext4 or RFS?
I have not had any issues with viper frozen or trulyepic. Trulyepic was my first. Very simple both flashy and stable. Ext4 is super fast too.
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I think I'll try bonsai and then try others and compare because it might be personal preference also and at the same time I really appreciate everyone's input and will put everyone's advice to good use! You all are awesome
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ichefae85 said:
I think I'll try bonsai and then try others and compare because it might be personal preference also and at the same time I really appreciate everyone's input and will put everyone's advice to good use! You all are awesome
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Keep in mind that roms on the same modem you can flash between much easier.
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Simply AOSP is great with the Genocide kernel.
fwiw i use midnight rom 4.0. been solid for me.
different folks, different strokes....
ive been on viper for awhile now and have no complaints.. everything works for me.. looks awesome,runs great.
Also been on Viper for the last few releases. Have not had issues as of yet. You'll get quite a few opinions, but all the devs here do a great job on their roms.
Samsung Epic ViperROM 4.0.4 Genocide kernel
I intend on trying multiple roms......right now I am on the sideline waiting for some of the significant issues (ie CIQ) to be resolved before I flash. Only a day or two away I believe.
When I first came to the Epic modding world, I started off using ViperRom. ViperRom has a lot of those cutting edge, sometimes experimental, mods. The new toys (and their themes are generally aesthetically pleasing) are nice, but may cause stability issues. I then switched to MidNightRom and was VERY pleased with it. It is based off the Bonsai ROM and is slimmed down for performance and stability. No complaints there, But I am currently using the ACS Frozen ROM, and I am VERY pleased with it as well. Speed and performance all around. So far, that is all I have tried.
Everything will vary based on user, but all the devs here put a lot of work into what they do and any ROM you flash will be an upgrade from stock in my opinion.
Try Frankenstein. I prefer bare.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982415
Right now midNightROM with the Baked 2.0 kernel is really smooth for me....but a lot of good stuff right around the corner!
hammerbrain said:
Right now midNightROM with the Baked 2.0 kernel is really smooth for me....but a lot of good stuff right around the corner!
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Midnight has always been good, and the next versions of Bonsai and Syndicate are both looking real interesting, I wish they'd drop already. I've been sitting on the sidelines using stock EB13 waiting for them. Should be out any minute now.
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I think I'll try bonsai and then try others and compare because it might be personal preference also and at the same time I really appreciate everyone's input and will put everyone's advice to good use! You all are awesome
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Don't forget about Supernova. Been running it for 4 days and only have 1 problem. On you tube it plays the sound through the ear speaker not the louder speaker.
I think they have a new Rom coming soon and will give it a try.
I've been a fan of ACS for a long time. Back to DI18.
I will move to it probably after the next release when the mail client works.
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