So here I sit, on the fence, with my rooted stock Epic.
Nothing has really substantiated the rumors of Froyo for the 21st, and that just makes me think it's not coming (and if SamsungJohn was going to finally say something substantial, a yea or nay would be a nice start).
But this is not a thread about the OTA.
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
ViperRom 4.0.4 looks damn sweet... love the ViperWheel widget... but it was held up from its Monday release (are they waiting for source code drop too?). And there is Midnight and Nebula which I kinda like also.
I guess I could start the process of checking them out.
Or I could just sit here and wait. I'm going out of town this weekend and probably should leave things alone until I get back home.
Until then I ask anyone who is running those ROMs... would I lose Swype if I switch ROMs? I really like Swype...
I am stock/rooted, pretty much in the same situation. Will wait until the end of the month if no stock Froyo materializes will look into roms and modding a bit. I depend on my phone's functions all working for my business and would rather not take a chance that I will lose functionality by flashing to the Froyo leak.
i was waiting like you guys til the other week and i went to bonsai, and everything is working superbly.
I was getting sick of stock rom and 2.1, not being able to have hulu or flash as well as a few apps that are must have like Humans vs aliens as well as Andy-83.
Im now just waiting for the official source so it can be improved, but ive had no issues on bonsai and reccomend it, if you want something fast and clean..
give the latest midnight a shot it works really good just wipe 3x before loading and be happy. swype works for me just have to switch text imput method from gb to swype.
Soooo. Oh., before that... I am so glad I rooted and mod. I ran midnight ... and cut my teeth on the ext4 .... the cwm .... and after root and rom messed around with themes. After my ver of midnight got a few weeks old I switched to bonzai and I love it too... it just works. Wait a few ... but its worth it.
Btw ... will we have to wait a while for the new stock 2.2 to get rooted or... is once root always root? Curious.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
VIPERrom 4.0.4 does look sweet. I'm currently running FRoZen 4.0.3, and it has been great. I highly recommend the VIPERroms. I be jonesin' for that 4.0.4 son!
I use Frankenstein.
Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Also you can just copy the swype.apk from /system/app
Can't he?
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
ROM's
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
could try the Syndicate Rom, for 2.1.... see how fast the 2.2.1 roms WILL be after source... but other than that, they are all stable from what I read, some people have a few issues, depends a lot on you though. If you have a ton of stuff to reinstall after a clean wipe, might as well wait out the weekend, not for an OTA, slim chance there... but just so you have time.... sometimes things take longer, you may go thru 5 roms before you find the one you like... etc.
lazyart said:
I'm just thinking... if OTA is really imminent, then I'll just wait and let the devs work on it. But if it's not... then it's time to look at one of the available ROMs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
DK28 is buggy but it is better than 2.1 by far. You really don't lose anything by going with one of the available ROMs right now. Presumably they will all have an update once the new version is sent out from Sprint (whether it be on the 21st or not). If you're running a custom 2.2 ROM, you'll just do a CWM backup, update to the newer version of whichever ROM you like, and then restore your data.
I went back and forth between Quantum and Bonsai ROM today. It takes no more than 10 minutes to fully swap ROMs. Just do it, you'll be glad you did. And if a new version of 2.2 comes out in the next 5 days, it will only take a few minutes (max) of your time to upgrade to it.
A_Flying_Fox said:
Don't update.
There's too many bugs in dk28 which will make yu scramble for di18, but when you go back you will miss the little upgrades that did work so it'll be this constant struggle within.
Until official 2.2.1 ofcourse
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What bugs are u getting? I running bonsai and have no issues.. even got Tue pre8 wireless tether working perfectly ...
Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g
SF-IT-Guy said:
I spent last weekend loading up all of the different (read more popular) ROM's and the most stable and straight forward one to me was Nebula Seven Sisters. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863154
The developer made it a point of keeping a lot of the stock look and features while improving on what Froyo brought to the table. I did not have any real functional issues with Viper, Midnight or TrulyEpic, it just seemed that Nebula was trying to keep the experience closer to stock than the others.
Other people will say they like the modified skins, the launcher pro, the Viper wheel, etc. For them, that is the case. That is the great thing about the developers of the ROM's, they are doing this to cater to different crowds.
So really, there is no need to wait for Sprint or Samsung here, download Odin, grab some ROM's and have fun with your phone! All I can say is to make Clockwork backups often, it makes the process of going back to the ROM you liked two days ago so much easier!
Randy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
lviv73 said:
Is 7sisters smoother than bonsai?Im asking because I want minimal rom so I can add my own things to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bonsai is bare minimum and is great to add your own stuff and themes and its stable and fast, and for me the pre8 new wifi tethering app wits great, I live this rom!!!
Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g
lazyart said:
Well, I've just flashed DK28 and CWM just finished converting to EXT4. It's party time.
Viper brings some great stuff to the table.
Nebula is stability first, which is important to me since my business and my phone are virtually inseparable.
I also like Midnight's BYOR modular format, keeping bloat to a minimum.
I'll have a fun time with this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
lazyart said:
More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No need to odin,odin only if nothing else works!
In ur case pull out bettery,put it back in,hold power+vol down+camera to get back into cmw3 and try again.
This will save you some time.
Everyone should be warned of one MAJOR issue. If you use you phone for primary internet access anywhere you go; whether at home or at work or wherever. The tethering drops you no matter what you use at random. It is very frustrating and annoying. If it wasn't for this I'd be 100% satisfied with nebula already; but it isn't the rom's problem, it's with DK28. Some people use wireless tethering but I cannot with 2 different desktops I use my phone for internet connectivity.
lazyart said:
More fun than I realized. After the conversion I got stuck at the www.samsungmmobile.com screen. Here we Odin again!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Make sure you watch some of Randy Shear's videos on youtube if you're new at this. He very slowly goes through many of the basic steps in putting a new rom on your phone. If you skip a step you cause yourself triple work. Just take your time and watch a few of his video's and just put the rom on your want. His Viper Apoc 4.0.2 video is excellent.
Related
For the folks that have gotten a taste of Froyo, will you keep it?
Closing this poll in 21 days, I imagine the "officially official" Froyo release will have some variances.
Yes.
[at least 10 characters]
I don't see any poll? My vote would be yes. I went from rooted N1 with stock rom and recovery to amon_ra's recovery and Froyo and haven't found a single bug yet. It's very stable for me and even watched a Youtube flash video which worked flawlessly (keep in mind I only watched one video so far)
.. when it's CM-froyo, yes.. till then 507.
Of course. It works flawlessly on my device and the speed increase is money. Just waiting for the mods now. And for the app devs to send their updates.
rori~ said:
.. when it's CM-froyo, yes.. till then 507.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Darn it! Wish I thought of that option before putting up the poll! I've been thinking of reverting to CM507 and waiting on CM6... But I don't see any options to edit the poll.
im waiting for cyanogen...played with froyo for 5 mins, than did a restore back
I'm keeping it because I love the new features, It's like they listened to me directly because everything I wanted they've updated specifically. I do miss my features with Enoms ROM but I can live without until he releases an update [still waiting on AOSP as far as I know]
icon57 said:
im waiting for cyanogen...played with froyo for 5 mins, than did a restore back
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Give it a chance rofl. 5 minutes is not enough to discover all the new tweaks/features that Google gave us
Keeping it. There are so many new features and just little visual tweaks that make it so awesome. Like when you mount your phone via USB there's a little android guy. Or if you use more than one language when typing you can just swipe the spacebar to easily switch.
The only cons I've encountered were Handcent fc'ing every time I send a msg and the HTC mod kb not working. However those two things are huge for me.
Overall the speed, visual enhancements and epicness of Froyo is enough for me to roll w the punches until 2.2 source is released and the devs fix up something awesome!
-------------------------------------
Sent from my Nexus One
Anyone have issues when powering up the phone? It seems to take forever until it is stable and will actually respond normally. Unrooted Froyo.
Don't know why people would prefer anything older than FroYo.
It's faster, it's reliable, it has cool features and is better looking =)
Definitely a keeper, very happy with it. Now where is my Gingerbread?!
DarkDvr said:
Don't know why people would prefer anything older than FroYo.
It's faster, it's reliable, it has cool features and is better looking =)
Definitely a keeper, very happy with it. Now where is my Gingerbread?!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because its missing all the little tweaks from CM that makes day-to-day on the phone so much more useful. (even little things like remove debug message, trackball track skip, color pulsing, etc)
I think I'm still going to keep it but waiting impatiently for a CM froyo variant for sure.
Keeping it. The 2 issues I had, have been fixed by app updates for dolphin HD and handsent. And I think there's a fix out for HTC ime that I have to find.
I'm keeping it for now, but once enom and CM start building new ROMs with a Froyo base, then I'll probably move onto those
I got froyo, then went back to cyan5.0.6 due to the fact that apps are not updated yet. But I went back to froyo last night willing to be patient. I cant wait for cyan froyo 6.0 Being stock sucks and to me the reg functions of the phone are slow compared to 5.0.6.
You know how many times I hit my trackball to wake my phone up and unlock and im like "****" lol....
cyan ROMs are the shiznit!!!
Tried Froyo, went back to 2.1
It's not so much I had anything against Froyo... everything worked great with Froyo itself... but none of the widgets I use worked with Froyo, so I reverted.
where's the option to keep a nandroid of both froyo & CM and switch back & forth as needed?
I'm keeping it for now; I REALLY miss some of my apps though.
Since none of them are updated for Apps2SD yet my phone memory's almost full & started rejecting text messages.
Couple that with I have over 100 apps that I can't even find on the market again and yeah.. I'm waiting for CM =(
Love the flash player and hulu on the go though; so for now, it stays...
RixKliq said:
where's the option to keep a nandroid of both froyo & CM and switch back & forth as needed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
u can backup ur phone as much as u want. As long as u have the space to do it on ur SD card. I have about 3 nandroid backups. 2 cyan5.0.6 and 1 froyo. Just go into recovery and select which one u want.
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1. Though I enjoy 'modding my phone' I don't need to sacrifice stability for it. I think the only reason I would root again is for SetCPU to underclock and save battery or if some crazy app came out that Google does not plan on releasing.
htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
edufur said:
That last OTA was so great, that I have backed off of all the custom ROMs that were built since. None of them offer much benefit over the stock OTA and actually sacrificed stability. After figuring this out, I rolled back to the latest OTA and stopped flashing. This is the first time I have been here in like 3 weeks. And all it has done is re-affirmed my suspicion that really, the OTA will suit just fine for quite some time to come... maybe even until gingerbread.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 I never even bothered rooting after upgrading from the Hero to the Evo on Oct. 1st. My Hero was rooted and saw its share of custom roms but I'm quite happy with stock Froyo and the newest update.
I thought I would never go back to Sense after running CM6 on my Hero and some other aosp roms but I'm back to stock with the Evo and love it. Plus my wimax works which I do use.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
om4 said:
htc's version of android has been reworked quite heavily to use sense, for those who dont like sense, it cant simply be stripped out and reinstalling the stock launcher leaves more problems then it solves, anyone looking for a pure android experience will jump to an asop rom as fast as possible, htc has done a great job staying on top of their phones for once but are still lagging behind xda, its the whole inch and a mile thing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's strange, I'm running a stock rooted rom with sense removed and have not experienced any force closes... Although, I must admit I feel at times like my battery drains fast and I can't help but feel like its the excess htc processes draining....
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
I've been running virus Rom with no issues and one of kings kernels, I do like to use the free teathering and extra battery life
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
I feel like the stock root is good. I am able to get rid of the Sprint software with root. But I like to know I am able to test new roms.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G. EVOke (v.) - Summon into action or bring into existence, often as if by magic.
I like the latest Sprint OTA...thanks Sprint and HTC!
That said, my wife was not rooted and started complaining because my rooted phone operated much smoother/faster than hers. BTW, even rooted, she uses ADW and no Sense.
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
I still like playing around with roms but I've limited myself to two: MIUI (still not quite there for me but it's a beautiful rom) and Vaelpak.
firemedic1343 said:
So I ended up rooting my wife and oh boy is she happy now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ha, awesome!
I know I'm sure I saw this asked already and apologize but I'm completely new to all this and dont know what roms to use or anything. So any suggestions would be awesome. And am I even asking in the right area? Haha
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
I have had great luck with bonzai 3.0 with the amosher gingerbread theme. Been using bonzai for a few months now... great feel and great look with the theme.
Esp with the new official froyo..... good luck!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
gregory15 said:
I have had great luck with bonzai 3.0 with the amosher gingerbread theme. Been using bonzai for a few months now... great feel and great look with the theme.
Esp with the new official froyo..... good luck!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks I'll have to check it when I can get my computer to detect my phone in download mode and or figure out how to do all of this haha
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
You'll get lots of differing opinions, here's mine. (I know that this won't make any friends here)
None of the current batch of ROMS is solid yet. They each have a fatal flaw. I've tried a few but ended up back on stock EB13 with the camera fix kernel flashed over it. And frankly if you flash stock EB13 using the Samsung installer it's pretty good right out of the box.
And, regardless of what people tell you flashing an Epic is not trivial for a noob. Just read all the frantic posts from people trying to figure out why their phone won't boot. Before you get started be sure you know what Odin is and how to use it (and which PIT files go with which PDA files), what the difference between EXT4 and RFS is and which version of clockwork you can use with each, and what deodexed means. There are enough variable that you have to get right that a little knowledge can save you hours, maybe days of wasted time.
If you have to try one, read the WHOLE thread before flashing and see what's now working yet. If you decide that doesn't matter to you, flash away.
poit said:
You'll get lots of differing opinions, here's mine. (I know that this won't make any friends here)
None of the current batch of ROMS is solid yet. They each have a fatal flaw. I've tried a few but ended up back on stock EB13 with the camera fix kernel flashed over it. And frankly if you flash stock EB13 using the Samsung installer it's pretty good right out of the box.
And, regardless of what people tell you flashing an Epic is not trivial for a noob. Just read all the frantic posts from people trying to figure out why their phone won't boot. Before you get started be sure you know what Odin is and how to use it (and which PIT files go with which PDA files), what the difference between EXT4 and RFS is and which version of clockwork you can use with each, and what deodexed means. There are enough variable that you have to get right that a little knowledge can save you hours, maybe days of wasted time.
If you have to try one, read the WHOLE thread before flashing and see what's now working yet. If you decide that doesn't matter to you, flash away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the help
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
poit said:
You'll get lots of differing opinions, here's mine. (I know that this won't make any friends here)
None of the current batch of ROMS is solid yet. They each have a fatal flaw. I've tried a few but ended up back on stock EB13 with the camera fix kernel flashed over it. And frankly if you flash stock EB13 using the Samsung installer it's pretty good right out of the box.
And, regardless of what people tell you flashing an Epic is not trivial for a noob. Just read all the frantic posts from people trying to figure out why their phone won't boot. Before you get started be sure you know what Odin is and how to use it (and which PIT files go with which PDA files), what the difference between EXT4 and RFS is and which version of clockwork you can use with each, and what deodexed means. There are enough variable that you have to get right that a little knowledge can save you hours, maybe days of wasted time.
If you have to try one, read the WHOLE thread before flashing and see what's now working yet. If you decide that doesn't matter to you, flash away.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good advice here.
Regarding roms, I have to say that I think the new SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0 (1.0.1 is almost out) is a solid replacement from stock. People have had issues with bad flashes (thx CW3) but once it's installed properly the battery lasts hours longer, it's incredibly quick, and has a number of improvements over stock. Keep in mind I wasn't using roms before this due to requiring the stability of stock (was on the stock rooted EB13), but am in heaven since I switched over. The rom is amazing. None of the instability issues I have had with my previous phones+roms.
I haven't tried the Bonzai rom though, heard that was stable and good as well.
adrift02 said:
Good advice here.
Regarding roms, I have to say that I think the new SyndicateROM Frozen 1.0 (1.0.1 is almost out) is a solid replacement from stock. People have had issues with bad flashes (thx CW3) but once it's installed properly the battery lasts hours longer, it's incredibly quick, and has a number of improvements over stock. Keep in mind I wasn't using roms before this due to requiring the stability of stock (was on the stock rooted EB13), but am in heaven since I switched over. The rom is amazing. None of the instability issues I have had with my previous phones+roms.
I haven't tried the Bonzai rom though, heard that was stable and good as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. SyndicateROM seems to be the best and most stable ROM right now. That is until CM7 is done. Then everyone will burn out to Gingerbread.
By the way...did you go with Ext4 or RFS?
I have not had any issues with viper frozen or trulyepic. Trulyepic was my first. Very simple both flashy and stable. Ext4 is super fast too.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
I think I'll try bonsai and then try others and compare because it might be personal preference also and at the same time I really appreciate everyone's input and will put everyone's advice to good use! You all are awesome
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
ichefae85 said:
I think I'll try bonsai and then try others and compare because it might be personal preference also and at the same time I really appreciate everyone's input and will put everyone's advice to good use! You all are awesome
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep in mind that roms on the same modem you can flash between much easier.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Simply AOSP is great with the Genocide kernel.
fwiw i use midnight rom 4.0. been solid for me.
different folks, different strokes....
ive been on viper for awhile now and have no complaints.. everything works for me.. looks awesome,runs great.
Also been on Viper for the last few releases. Have not had issues as of yet. You'll get quite a few opinions, but all the devs here do a great job on their roms.
Samsung Epic ViperROM 4.0.4 Genocide kernel
I intend on trying multiple roms......right now I am on the sideline waiting for some of the significant issues (ie CIQ) to be resolved before I flash. Only a day or two away I believe.
When I first came to the Epic modding world, I started off using ViperRom. ViperRom has a lot of those cutting edge, sometimes experimental, mods. The new toys (and their themes are generally aesthetically pleasing) are nice, but may cause stability issues. I then switched to MidNightRom and was VERY pleased with it. It is based off the Bonsai ROM and is slimmed down for performance and stability. No complaints there, But I am currently using the ACS Frozen ROM, and I am VERY pleased with it as well. Speed and performance all around. So far, that is all I have tried.
Everything will vary based on user, but all the devs here put a lot of work into what they do and any ROM you flash will be an upgrade from stock in my opinion.
Try Frankenstein. I prefer bare.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982415
Right now midNightROM with the Baked 2.0 kernel is really smooth for me....but a lot of good stuff right around the corner!
hammerbrain said:
Right now midNightROM with the Baked 2.0 kernel is really smooth for me....but a lot of good stuff right around the corner!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Midnight has always been good, and the next versions of Bonsai and Syndicate are both looking real interesting, I wish they'd drop already. I've been sitting on the sidelines using stock EB13 waiting for them. Should be out any minute now.
ichefae85 said:
I think I'll try bonsai and then try others and compare because it might be personal preference also and at the same time I really appreciate everyone's input and will put everyone's advice to good use! You all are awesome
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't forget about Supernova. Been running it for 4 days and only have 1 problem. On you tube it plays the sound through the ear speaker not the louder speaker.
I think they have a new Rom coming soon and will give it a try.
I've been a fan of ACS for a long time. Back to DI18.
I will move to it probably after the next release when the mail client works.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
1st post, 1st android - LOVE this forum!!
So, I managed to figure out how to root several weeks ago, mainly so I could wifi tether. Been waiting (and waiting... and waiting...) on Sprint to put Froyo out. Toyed with the idea of doing it myself, based on several threads in the xda forums, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Finally took the plunge last week & also flashed my first custom ROM, Syndicate Frozen. Had a couple of 'Oh $hit' moments, but made it through and very glad I did. The speed increase is amazing!
Getting ready to try midNIGHT next... just for kicks.
Just had to say I couldn't have done it without all the awesome help from this forum. Just hope I'm able to contribute, someday...
Cheers!
I remember that from when I got my first Android, the HTC Hero. Such good times.
I am running Syndicate, too. It's my favorite ROM. MidNIGHT is a second, the only reasons I don't use it is because he uses the beta swype in his ROM (meaning you have to renew it every so often), and his rom doesn't support 1x/3G icons like syndicate's does. Though, I must say, MidNIGHT is VERY, VERY stable and will probably not force close ANYTHING you run on it. In other words, MidNIGHT is what stock should've been.
Glad you took the plunge and did it. Its definitely worth it isn't it. On on the latest bonsai rom and its awesome. The.main difference with this rom is you don't have to wipe all your data before you flash.the rom. It backs up all your data and restores it when you flash the rom so you don't have.to start from scratch
Sent From My Evo Killer!
whitfield77 said:
1st post, 1st android - LOVE this forum!!
So, I managed to figure out how to root several weeks ago, mainly so I could wifi tether. Been waiting (and waiting... and waiting...) on Sprint to put Froyo out. Toyed with the idea of doing it myself, based on several threads in the xda forums, but just couldn't quite pull the trigger.
Finally took the plunge last week & also flashed my first custom ROM, Syndicate Frozen. Had a couple of 'Oh $hit' moments, but made it through and very glad I did. The speed increase is amazing!
Getting ready to try midNIGHT next... just for kicks.
Just had to say I couldn't have done it without all the awesome help from this forum. Just hope I'm able to contribute, someday...
Cheers!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ptfmedic did an awesome job in creating the most flexible and stable (with the BYOR edition) Rom I have ever seen to date, even spawning from the old Windows Mobile 6.1 days... ahhh...
Not to mention the dude has a heart of gold. If you do decide to flash one of his roms, be sure to read some of his blogs and if you feel it stir inside you, help out his cause.
Welcome. This forum is very arousing.
Tried to flash midNight BYOR, after using Odin to get back to a stock with root & CWM, but for some reason it kept failing. Something about couldn't open the zip. Going to try to download the Standard version; maybe the BYOR was corrupted during download.
bighuta said:
Ptfmedic did an awesome job in creating the most flexible and stable (with the BYOR edition) Rom I have ever seen to date, even spawning from the old Windows Mobile 6.1 days... ahhh...
Not to mention the dude has a heart of gold. If you do decide to flash one of his roms, be sure to read some of his blogs and if you feel it stir inside you, help out his cause.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I did take the time to read through a few of his blogs. The Broken Heart one was gripping - will definitely make me think twice the next time I'm approached. The man definitely has a heart of gold & the patience of a saint. And he still takes the time to make great Rom's from what I hear. I should know here in the next hour or so - multiupload is slower than...
Guess I'm supposed to wait 5 minutes between posts...
whitfield77 said:
Tried to flash midNight BYOR, after using Odin to get back to a stock with root & CWM, but for some reason it kept failing. Something about couldn't open the zip. Going to try to download the Standard version; maybe the BYOR was corrupted during download.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not to sound offensive or mean, but did you follow his instructions exactly as written on his Android Development page? When it comes to flashing roms (at least with the Epic) one minor mistake can be the difference between a perfect flash and a faulty one. I learned that the hard way -.-
Edit:
Oh and I forgot to mention, although it hasn't happened to me yet, i hear that bad flashes can occur; I.E., something went wrong in that instance alone, not necessarily the entire thing is debunk, but rather just that one time. Try it again and you might have better luck.
Cheers
Overstew said:
I remember that from when I got my first Android, the HTC Hero. Such good times.
I am running Syndicate, too. It's my favorite ROM. MidNIGHT is a second, the only reasons I don't use it is because he uses the beta swype in his ROM (meaning you have to renew it every so often), and his rom doesn't support 1x/3G icons like syndicate's does. Though, I must say, MidNIGHT is VERY, VERY stable and will probably not force close ANYTHING you run on it. In other words, MidNIGHT is what stock should've been.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure why he did that either, but he's recently started using the stock swype we all paid for.
I have to second what you said. I came from a moment and the epic is a huge step up. I'm also running the syndicate rom as well and it sure is a speed demon. I am starting to get the hang of flashing now, though I probably go overboard when I do it. I usually end up flashing back to stock and then install cwm, then I go and flash the rom. This forum is outstanding too. The people here are (for the most part) intelligent and willing to help.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA Premium App
bighuta said:
Not to sound offensive or mean, but did you follow his instructions exactly as written on his Android Development page? When it comes to flashing roms (at least with the Epic) one minor mistake can be the difference between a perfect flash and a faulty one. I learned that the hard way -.-
Edit:
Oh and I forgot to mention, although it hasn't happened to me yet, i hear that bad flashes can occur; I.E., something went wrong in that instance alone, not necessarily the entire thing is debunk, but rather just that one time. Try it again and you might have better luck.
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No offense taken at all. I'm definitely a noob, so I'd rather have someone point out the obvious than assume I knew what I was doing.
Tried it a couple ways. 1st time, I was already rooted with CW3.0.0.6 with flashed syndicate. Wiped davlic, cache, and user 3 times. Tried to install the BYOR version & got the error. 2nd time, I used Odin to get back to EB13 rooted with CW3, no other custom rom. Then tried install BYOR version again (after wiping 3x) and got same error.
Decided to Odin back again, EB13, root, CW3; wipe 3x & then installed the midNIGHT Standard & it worked like a charm. I've had bad file downloads from multiupload before, so I'm gonna pin the blame there for now.
Been exploring midNight this afternoon & like it so far. Figured I should give it a few days before I decide which to go with.
So, my son decided to throw my Droid X into his bath. Yup, goner. So now I own a Fascinate.
Whats the scoup on this phone guys? Tuff to mess with as far as ROM's and Themes? Yes, I plan on doing many long nights of regrading to "catch up" on this phone but thought id ask anyways.
I want to thank you all in advanced for the learning's of this phone I expect to get from this forum
Aaron
this thread has a nice run down of all customs and kernels currently available for the Fascinate.
I personally find Superclean and Blackhole to be the 2 best choices for a daily ROM at this point.
As far as kernels go, any of the source built kernels are great. Just pick the one that is best suited to your wants/needs
Things to keep an eye on are Kaoscinate and JT's ASOP build. Once these have a few more fixes they may very well be better than SC.
Keep in mind its rather tough to fully brick this phone but that's not to say that you can't create MAJOR headaches for yourself. Always make sure you are flashing something for the VERIZON Fascinate and not the Telus or i9000.
Make sure you download odin as well. Its saved me countless times from bricking my phone.
Sent from my SCH-I500
Linked you some good reading material and useful threads.
[WALKTHROUGHS 3/9/11] Rooting, Clockwork, Voodoo, Froyo and Custom ROMs, Battery, etc
[Guide] [3/22/11] Complete Guide to recover your Fascinate from any Error.
[ODIN] Odin Superclean files
[RECOVERY] Updated ClockworkMod for ALL ROMs
As always, XDA members are amazing! Thanks guys. I actually odin'd to 2.2.3 last night (Debloated/Deodexed Froyo Leak+root+Froyo Clockworkmod).
Just need to learn where I can go from here.
Again, thanks guys!
I'm not totally sure which files you flashed but there's a good chance that Superclean/Blackhole use a newer leak and are a bit better. If you are happy with what you have so far however....
From here, you can try:
1. A custom kernel will allow you to use Backlight notification which is nice if you are used to having an LED. They also allow for undervolting and/or overclocking. Use a market app like BLN to control it once you have the kernel installed
2. There's a number of themes available though many of them are tied to Superclean and I'm not sure if they will run on any Touchwiz based leak.
3. Another thing to look into would be voodoo. The biggest thing in Voodoo is the "lagfix" which converts the filesystem from RFS to ext4 which gives a bit of a preformance boost. The custom kernels now have voodoo sound and color enhancements as well.
Made sure to "thank" you all.
Good stuff, but wow is this all different than my Droid X was. All new "lingo" and all. Oh well, I love to learn so we'll see how it goes.
Damn, my first issue. Did a backup without fail. However, im trying to flash a Kernal and when I get into Stock recovery I go to "apply sdcard:update.zip". Which use to get me into CWM. Now it wont, gives me the exclamation point. Interesting...
I suggest reflashing the new cwm posted by jt.
Sent from my fascination with voodoo
zskate311 said:
I suggest reflashing the new cwm posted by jt.
Sent from my fascination with voodoo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did, still cant get into it.
Good to go, flashed another version and im good to go.
What link is 2.2.3 found I'm on superclean2.9.2 with 2.2.1
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Welcome to the Fascinate! I went through the same learning curve, and love Superclean. Can't wait for more and hope that we don't lose too much with all these new phones coming out. But I'm loving the phone. How do you like it vs. the X?
Put the dx in a bag of dry rice for a couple of days might end up with 2 phones.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
For rooting, rims and themes. The DX was fun and easy. Fascinate seems simple to a degree...just a learning curve. Much lighter phone and the screen clarity is far better than the DX.
Tried the rice trick. Even put it in our temp chamber at my company and got every ounce if moisture out of the phone. You'd never know it was totally emerged in water.
Am I correct in saying the Fascinate Dev community usnt as strong as most newer phones?
It's been a bit slow here due to VZW dragging their feet on the 2.2 update and lack of source until recently.
However, we recently got the kernel source so stuff has been really picking up. We have a ton of new kernels that have dropped over the last week and I would expect to see something similar for ROMS when the full source releases.
We have a bunch of great devs and many who are working behind the scenes to get us CM6 and CM7. Maybe the quantity of releases is a bit less, but the quality is undoubtedly there. Also, typically devs here don't just release a ROM because it's been rethemed/reskinned as happens on some other phones. Here, they are released as themes which can be flashed on top of the actual ROM.
Oh and a full EC10 ROM released today. I haven't tried it yet but it looks promising.
Im thinking I would have to agree. I flashed nitsuj17's ginger rom last night. Its great. I have to say the screen on this Fascinate kills the Droid X by leaps and bounds. I ran a movie (megamind) last night on it. Having flashed voodoo...WOW!! Amazing clarity.
I'm for sure sold on this phone. And quality ROMS over quantity is so far a great way to approach this phone.
Thanks for your input.
Aaron636r said:
Im thinking I would have to agree. I flashed nitsuj17's ginger rom last night. Its great. I have to say the screen on this Fascinate kills the Droid X by leaps and bounds. I ran a movie (megamind) last night on it. Having flashed voodoo...WOW!! Amazing clarity.
I'm for sure sold on this phone. And quality ROMS over quantity is so far a great way to approach this phone.
Thanks for your input.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am exactly the same boat as you. Returned the droid x for a fascinate.... This phone is amazing!
How did you get megamind on your phone?
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
chefthomas99 said:
How did you get megamind on your phone?
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ripped it to about 800mb. Threw it on the SD card.
Also, check out Allshare (should be preinstalled on stock and Superclean). It's pretty damn neat to stream stuff off of your PC to your phone.