This may be a stupid question....especially since I have rooted and changed ROMs on my other Android phones.
The only reason I typically root my phones is to get the newer versions or features of new OS releases when the phone in question appears to not be getting any new updates. I rooted and installed many different ROMs on my G1 and MyTouch Slide. I'm currently running CM6.1 on my Slide, and love it.
To me I don't want to root and run a custom ROM on my G2 simply because it's already fast, and has pretty much all the features I want. BUT, I would like to be able to have root access, delete stock apps, and have the extra control that root gives me. But I don't want to deal with the (small) bugs associated with custom ROMs. I have tried VISIONary, but even with terminal emulator and titanium backup, I can't delete the stock apps permanently.
Is there a full on STOCK rom, with NO bugs or issues that can be installed after root? I don't want to change the OS, I just want root access so I can permanently remove stock apps and have general root control.
Heres a LINK to a stock rooted OTA ROM. Description of the ROM: "This is the stock rom post OTA. added root (su and superuser.apk) as well as modified ramdisk (ro.secure=0) and busybox. Also zip aligned apps to optimize ram usage. there is odex (stock) and de-odex versions".
joemm said:
Heres a LINK to a stock rooted OTA ROM. Description of the ROM: This is the stock rom post OTA. added root (su and superuser.apk) as well as modified ramdisk (ro.secure=0) and busybox. Also zip aligned apps to optimize ram usage. there is odex (stock) and de-odex versions.
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Question regarding that. I noticed you said it adds root (su and superuser.apk), Im already rooted so wouldnt that be on any ROM I install (including stock). Also I noticed in the link it links to Pershoots OC kernel, I thought you couldnt use that on a stock ROM.
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Question regarding that. I noticed you said it adds root (su and superuser.apk), Im already rooted so wouldnt that be on any ROM I install (including stock). Also I noticed in the link it links to Pershoots OC kernel, I thought you couldnt use that on a stock ROM.
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Just cause your s-off doesn't mean the rom you are running will have su access, superuser and su are usually cooked into all custom roms but it doesn't mean it always has to have it, the description on this rom is its stock ota with superuser app and su built into it.
The link takes you to a stock rooted rom with a stock kernel thread and has the option to use an oc/uv kernel.
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Depending on how you perm-rooted, your stock ROM that you first rooted on will probably have superuser.apk and full su access. If you're happy with how all your root-specific apps run then you're fine. You don't necessarily have to flash a custom ROM to get full functionality. I was in the same boat as you and ran stock rooted 2.2 on my Evo for a long time. All i wanted root for was wireless tether and titanium backup, didnt care about everything else.
Basically what I'm saying is that if you're perm-rooted and have superuser permissions and you uninstall your stock apps and you're happy, theres no need to flash a new ROM.
You need s-off to properly uninstall the bloatware applications if i recall correctly
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I just wanted to ask and see if anyone knows. Most the custom roms I end up having issues with apps I run, but they worked fine on stock. So I wanted to go back but keep my root access.
Did you back up your stock ROM?
If you did not, I think someone has the stock kernel as link to one to the threads in the DEV section.ts installed...
Edit 01: I am almost sure, you will lose root when a new OTA gets installed...
1. Back to stock
2. "Pure root" (stock Android with root)
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Edit 01: I am almost sure, you will lose root when a new OTA gets installed...
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Yes. Easy to re-root though, at least thus far.
Rooted roms renove ota usually, like Prime.
i dont want to have my hand held every step of the way so i will try to outline what i believe i need to do and hopefully someone can confirm and correct me.
here goes....
first use this method, apparently method 2 better, to downgrade...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
i then need to follow a process to either root it and leave it as 3.0.1 but rooted or install a custom rom that is rooted? if i need to install custom rom due to that instability mentioned in method 2 i could just put a stock but rooted 3.2 i believe. is there a list of rooted 3.2 roms that i can just install without playing around with kernels or whatever? which is the best currently?
thanks guys and please be gentle
I used the downgrade to 3.0.1, root that, install cwm by thor, then for now flashed Taboonay.
I too am looking for a Rom that fits me right. I'll report back if I find it.
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cheers mate. idecided to use method 1 and it went without a hiccup. i then rooted.
for now i will leave it with stock 3.0.1 rooted as i am sure ice cream sandwich will be out in a short period and then i will look to put a rooted version of that on when it is known to be stable and someone has a good tutorial on it.
thanks for all the work that goes into the development of this great OS.
one of the reasons i wanted to root is to increase cpu speed.
when i just installed setcpu it wont allow me to go over 1000mhz which i presume is to do with the stock rom.
any suggestions? does this mean i will HAVE to install a custom rom, if so is there a list or any roms that are definitely better than others? if so, i guess there will be different procedures to install depending on the rom,?.
Not necessarily a custom rom, but a custom kernel. Some roms include kernels, some dont. Any you can install kernel wthout rom if you want.
I used method 2 and downgraded to 3.0.1. This version is very unstable as I got a force close message every 5-10 seconds. I immediately rooted using iconia root. (Iconia root and the rom that I was going to flash were already on my sd card prior to going through the process) Kekinash has a rooted stock rom here in the development section if that's what you want. I downloaded it, but I have not flashed it yet because I am happy with Thor's current 13.2 rom. There is a link to Thor's website in the general section. I won't post it here because of xda rules. I can't speak for any other roms in this section because I only ran rooted stock before the 3.2 update.
Lightspeed Rom is pretty snappy
cheers guys, went with honeyvillain.
only probs: first it says to insert a sim card, as i have a a500 it doesnt use a sim card, this is probably why 2 force closes come up straight away for system updater possibly?
second, the market kept saying there was an error. i uninstalled the market and found the latest market apk and all is fine so far running 1400mhz.
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Not necessarily a custom rom, but a custom kernel. Some roms include kernels, some dont. Any you can install kernel wthout rom if you want.
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www.tegraowners.com
Good kernels from the person who made the recovery possible....
Hello,
It's been a while since I have played around with rooting and tinkering with my Evo 4G.
Right now I have it rooted and a few apps like ROM Manager, SuperUser and such installed. I'm currently running 2.2.
I would like to get updated with the newest rooted stock OS. I need this phone to work and would also like to maintain stability and improve battery life.
I found the details at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427 as how to 'After rooting, how do I install a ROM?'
Which ROM is recommended to keep as close to as stock while still giving me root capabilities and apps?
Is there a version I should avoid do to age / hardware of phone?
I was thinking of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319881
or from this list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
#8, the OTA version.
Any suggestions or comments on either, others, my process?
Thanks.
Does it have to be a stock rom? If not, i suggest MikG or evolved recharged.
They're both pretty good roms
maxarbos said:
Hello,
It's been a while since I have played around with rooting and tinkering with my Evo 4G.
Right now I have it rooted and a few apps like ROM Manager, SuperUser and such installed. I'm currently running 2.2.
I would like to get updated with the newest rooted stock OS. I need this phone to work and would also like to maintain stability and improve battery life.
I found the details at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790427 as how to 'After rooting, how do I install a ROM?'
Which ROM is recommended to keep as close to as stock while still giving me root capabilities and apps?
Is there a version I should avoid do to age / hardware of phone?
I was thinking of this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319881
or from this list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
#8, the OTA version.
Any suggestions or comments on either, others, my process?
Thanks.
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You're all good with hardware and such, just pick which ever rooted stock rom you like,wipe,flash and reboot.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Supersonic/ROMs
Here's a list of some ROMs you could try out. Look under Custom ROMs.
Just make sure you have a backup of your current ROM just in case.
thanks for the replys.
Just so i have this right..
I am going to choose OTA-#8 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
This looks like the newest stock rooted ROM, correct?
I have everything backed up and see the docs, but have one last quesiton:
How do I restore all my contacts, apps, configs, etc once I do this?
I rooted and did this when I got the phone and built on top of it, but from the description of the backups, it's backing up the entire config of the phone (like an image). I would imagine that I dont try to reinstall all my apps from that one, right?
Thanks.
maxarbos said:
thanks for the replys.
Just so i have this right..
I am going to choose OTA-#8 from http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic/ROMs#Stock_ROMs
This looks like the newest stock rooted ROM, correct?
I have everything backed up and see the docs, but have one last quesiton:
How do I restore all my contacts, apps, configs, etc once I do this?
I rooted and did this when I got the phone and built on top of it, but from the description of the backups, it's backing up the entire config of the phone (like an image). I would imagine that I dont try to reinstall all my apps from that one, right?
Thanks.
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According to that URL, OTA Update #11 is the newest OTA available. Before you switch back to stock though you should check out these ROMs by -TeamBlaze-.
I had my tab rooted, played with roms etc etc
one day decided to try doing the bootloader and somehow
messed things up bad, locked it up totally and sent back
to acer they had replaced the mainboard under warranty
sent it back to me with hc3.2.1 on it
(thought they would have at least updated it) NOT
anyway went through all the over the air updates
still stock on ics version acer av041 a500 1.033.00 pa cus1
i know there is a newer version i have seen before but tab
keeps saying im up to date now
i really dont care about rooting (dont need to) but
my question is this...
is there a safe update.zip file that i can load and reboot
and update without rooting just run and stay stock???
i have found this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816560
but it has a lot of links and need to know the correct one
thank you in advance....
what about these ones from civato....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633907
Acer official ICS roms
NEW ACER RELEASE
Acer_AV041_A500_1.054.00_WW_GEN1-FULL-ROOT (original odex)
Thanks to Vache providing the OTA files
-Bootloader.blob & stock recovery removed. (your custom recovery and bootloader stay intact)
-Full root patched kernel , thanks to ezterry for providing me the script to do it.
-SuperUser installed in system
-EsFileExplorer & Flashplayer in data (can be removed like any app from the market)
-NOTHING ELSE IS CHANGED !!
Not deodexed or zipaligned , really nothing else is changed!
DEODEXED AND ZIPALIGNED VERSIONS BOTTOM OF THIS THREAD !
So if you got problems with it you got problems with Acer.
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is root and custom recovery required for them?
i am bone stock with just ota updates
and plan on leaving it that way if i can
just want to update to the newest 1.054 version....
metalmenance said:
is root and custom recovery required for them?
i am bone stock with just ota updates
and plan on leaving it that way if i can
just want to update to the newest 1.054 version....
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yeh....will need to flash it via cwm....
I havent been able to find a the 1.054 have u checked acer website???
someone out there may have an OTA they can share with you tho???
sorry not much help when it comes to stock stuff,
Ok just decided to try the one click root i found
I am once again rooted with superuser installed
tried titanium backup and works fine
So now which is the latest version I can get
(having the screen flickers and weak wifi is main reason
for even messing with it)
thanks in advance
Hi,
I know there is a lot of comments about why root nexus 4. The reason for me is that I know there is a lot of small fixes which i can install (battery kernel... I think i can install just to rooted phpne) but for me the main thing is that I know in time I will get very lazy about installing new roms. I have htc desire and last time i installed new rom year ago. The same with my xoom.
So my question is, if i root my phone, will i be abble to update original rom just by going to settings-about-update? It doesnt work on my desire and xoom. But i installed unoficial roms there. But if i just want to unlock the phone for little fixes and still be able to get updates from google... Is that possible?
Sorry if it is stupud question,...
Thx
milos797 said:
Hi,
I know there is a lot of comments about why root nexus 4. The reason for me is that I know there is a lot of small fixes which i can install (battery kernel... I think i can install just to rooted phpne) but for me the main thing is that I know in time I will get very lazy about installing new roms. I have htc desire and last time i installed new rom year ago. The same with my xoom.
So my question is, if i root my phone, will i be abble to update original rom just by going to settings-about-update? It doesnt work on my desire and xoom. But i installed unoficial roms there. But if i just want to unlock the phone for little fixes and still be able to get updates from google... Is that possible?
Sorry if it is stupud question,...
Thx
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I believe that OTA updates just flash the stock kernel again, so you could unlock, root and flash a different kernel without fear of losing OTA updates. However, OTA updates will force you to lose root and you will have to flash the custom kernel again. You will continue to get notifications that say that there is a new update as long as you aren't also on a custom ROM
If you are running the stock ROM you will still get and ota notification. However if you've made any modifications such as a custom kernel, build.prop edit, system.ui edit, etc. The ota will fail upon installation.
If all you do is get root access it will install fine. You'll just have to flash the su binaries again.
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Actually, SU has a survival mode that will preserve root even after OTA. CWM will also protect ropt so you don't have to reroot it. My Nexus 7 has been stock rooted and went thru 2 OTAs without losing root.
Skickat från min Nexus 4
Sorry to hijack,
My question is, I am rooted with stock rom but have CWR and a different kernel.
When the next OTA comes, I would need to download the whole rom because of CWR and kernel.
Question I have is that if I want to flash the OTA, would I need to wipe my device or can I just flash the ROM ontop. I know my old device (DHD) I had to wipe everything before I install the ROM. The reason why I am asking is because can I get away with just flashing on top therefore keeping all my data on my device so I no need to restore it via titanium backup (I am lazy)