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I know there is a lot of comments about why root nexus 4. The reason for me is that I know there is a lot of small fixes which i can install (battery kernel... I think i can install just to rooted phpne) but for me the main thing is that I know in time I will get very lazy about installing new roms. I have htc desire and last time i installed new rom year ago. The same with my xoom.
So my question is, if i root my phone, will i be abble to update original rom just by going to settings-about-update? It doesnt work on my desire and xoom. But i installed unoficial roms there. But if i just want to unlock the phone for little fixes and still be able to get updates from google... Is that possible?
Sorry if it is stupud question,...
Thx
milos797 said:
Hi,
I know there is a lot of comments about why root nexus 4. The reason for me is that I know there is a lot of small fixes which i can install (battery kernel... I think i can install just to rooted phpne) but for me the main thing is that I know in time I will get very lazy about installing new roms. I have htc desire and last time i installed new rom year ago. The same with my xoom.
So my question is, if i root my phone, will i be abble to update original rom just by going to settings-about-update? It doesnt work on my desire and xoom. But i installed unoficial roms there. But if i just want to unlock the phone for little fixes and still be able to get updates from google... Is that possible?
Sorry if it is stupud question,...
Thx
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I believe that OTA updates just flash the stock kernel again, so you could unlock, root and flash a different kernel without fear of losing OTA updates. However, OTA updates will force you to lose root and you will have to flash the custom kernel again. You will continue to get notifications that say that there is a new update as long as you aren't also on a custom ROM
If you are running the stock ROM you will still get and ota notification. However if you've made any modifications such as a custom kernel, build.prop edit, system.ui edit, etc. The ota will fail upon installation.
If all you do is get root access it will install fine. You'll just have to flash the su binaries again.
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Actually, SU has a survival mode that will preserve root even after OTA. CWM will also protect ropt so you don't have to reroot it. My Nexus 7 has been stock rooted and went thru 2 OTAs without losing root.
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Sorry to hijack,
My question is, I am rooted with stock rom but have CWR and a different kernel.
When the next OTA comes, I would need to download the whole rom because of CWR and kernel.
Question I have is that if I want to flash the OTA, would I need to wipe my device or can I just flash the ROM ontop. I know my old device (DHD) I had to wipe everything before I install the ROM. The reason why I am asking is because can I get away with just flashing on top therefore keeping all my data on my device so I no need to restore it via titanium backup (I am lazy)
So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
itsdacj said:
So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
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You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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Dunno what you mean? PA comes without root...
sefrcoko said:
You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
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How so?
itsdacj said:
How so?
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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Alright thanks, its just CM nightlies come with built in root and stuff. They aren't exactly stable however. Is there any PA-like ROMs for the Note 4 here?
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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I see this very often, but it isn't true.
you don't need to root for a custom rom.
on most devices (including the note 4) you need a custom recovery and an unlocked bootloader(it's often unlocked out of the box) for a custom rom.
some device(like gen8 archos devices) even allow custom roms with the official recovery thanks to a developer mode, or they don't have a signature check and just let you flash custom roms through an official updating utility(such as the old advent vega which accepted custom roms flashed through nvflash)
I am very excited to see that the new Moto X is about to be rooted soon (apparently). I just want root for Adaway, Xposed, and a few other niceties. I have no wish to put a custom ROM on the Pure.
But I have a few basic questions (sorry if this seems noobish), what happens when Motorola sends updates to the phone? In particular, when it gets updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
- Would I need to unroot, install the update, and then root again?
- Would updating get rid of root, and would I need to wait for a new root procedure to be discovered?
- Is there some risk that I would need to re-install all my apps?
- Anything I need to worry about?
Thanks for info on this!
nibunnoichi said:
I am very excited to see that the new Moto X is about to be rooted soon (apparently). I just want root for Adaway, Xposed, and a few other niceties. I have no wish to put a custom ROM on the Pure.
But I have a few basic questions (sorry if this seems noobish), what happens when Motorola sends updates to the phone? In particular, when it gets updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
- Would I need to unroot, install the update, and then root again?
- Would updating get rid of root, and would I need to wait for a new root procedure to be discovered?
- Is there some risk that I would need to re-install all my apps?
- Anything I need to worry about?
Thanks for info on this!
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Back to stock.
Flash Recovery
Flash SU.
It's an unlocked phone. You never lose root.
Or if you're going the whole hog -flash a custom ROM (stock or AOSP) and wait for the developer to promptly update the package
I assume with some patience updates will get posted here to flash. Stock rooted ROMs are pretty popular I think this will be no different.
tech_head said:
Back to stock.
Flash Recovery
Flash SU.
It's an unlocked phone. You never lose root.
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Your last comment is reassuring. I'm still learning when it comes to rooting; I had my friend root my Galaxy S3 years ago, but I'm gonna try to do it myself this time and learn the details of the process, and all that it entails (possible consequences, etc). Please bear with me.
Based on what I've read online (for example this article), it says OTA updates will break the root, but I can always re-root after the OTA and it's only a minor hassle (for phones with unlocked bootloader). Is that pretty much what you're saying as well?
So once Motorola rolls out the 6.0 Marshmallow update, would I need to re-unlock the bootloader (via this thread ) , and then re-flash recovery, etc?
At any point would I need to worry about losing any data on the phone?
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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I actually want motorola's features (Moto display, Moto actions, always-on voice recognition).
Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock Motorola rom? So once there is a 6.0 update, instead of OTAing, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead?
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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Some apps only work with root (like Batter Battery Stats, xposed). That's a good reason to just root without custom roms.
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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The sole reason i root is to install an ad blocker.
emailrob said:
Some apps only work with root (like Batter Battery Stats, xposed). That's a good reason to just root without custom roms.
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Yup, for me Better Battery stats, Titanium Backup, the possibility of putting the back button on the bottom right instead of left, and activating double tap are all reasons to root the stock rom.
cronoc said:
Yup, for me Better Battery stats, Titanium Backup, the possibility of putting the back button on the bottom right instead of left, and activating double tap are all reasons to root the stock rom.
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Double tap is ROM specific isn't it? Or is there an xposed module? Its the one thing I miss from my OnePlus, despite the 'aware' sensors
Much of the stuff you people are trying to accomplish can be done with Nova Launcher. No root needed.
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
nibunnoichi said:
Your last comment is reassuring. I'm still learning when it comes to rooting; I had my friend root my Galaxy S3 years ago, but I'm gonna try to do it myself this time and learn the details of the process, and all that it entails (possible consequences, etc). Please bear with me.
Based on what I've read online (for example this article), it says OTA updates will break the root, but I can always re-root after the OTA and it's only a minor hassle (for phones with unlocked bootloader). Is that pretty much what you're saying as well?
So once Motorola rolls out the 6.0 Marshmallow update, would I need to re-unlock the bootloader (via this thread ) , and then re-flash recovery, etc?
At any point would I need to worry about losing any data on the phone?
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You'll never loose data (except for the first time you unlock the bootloader) unless you choose to wipe internal storage. So no worries mate.
tech_head said:
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
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Good to know. I'm curious to know if there's a simpler way to update. Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock rom and future stock roms? So once there is a 6.0 update for the Pure, instead of OTAing from Motorola, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead (1-step process)?
emailrob said:
Double tap is ROM specific isn't it? Or is there an xposed module? Its the one thing I miss from my OnePlus, despite the 'aware' sensors
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I honestly don't know. I'm coming from a Cyanogenmod-rom'd phone, so I'm just hoping I'll be able to get back some of these features...
nibunnoichi said:
Good to know. I'm curious to know if there's a simpler way to update. Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock rom and future stock roms? So once there is a 6.0 update for the Pure, instead of OTAing from Motorola, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead (1-step process)?
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There might be but if u want simple flash a custom stock rom, im sure they will have a few, its basically stock rom but with tweaks and with a few stuff added. Then feom there just flash the updates for that rom. On my lg g3 i use to use a rom called cloudyg3 rom, it had everything stock rom had but a more tweaked version and such.
tech_head said:
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
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I opened this thread hoping for a method to prevent taking the 6.0 OTA, because as I understand, from reading the Moto X PE TWRP thread, The only root method for 6.0 is systemless, which I think I want to stay away from, in hopes that 6.0 will get regular root, in the future. I think i would rather stay on LP, while waiting.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I am hesitant, because I'e been away from Moto rooting for a few years. I've been Samsung rooting, with TWRP and SafeStrap.
The stuff I'm reading here, about Minimal ADB, Fast boot folder and using cmd prompt is a bit daunting and I would like more time to continue reading and learning, before doing the deed.
ETA: I just realized that the OTA will come from Motorola, not Verizon. How does the OTA come>
Is there a Moto app, that I can disable, without root?
pizza_pablo said:
I opened this thread hoping for a method to prevent taking the 6.0 OTA, because as I understand, from reading the Moto X PE TWRP thread, The only root method for 6.0 is systemless, which I think I want to stay away from, in hopes that 6.0 will get regular root, in the future. I think i would rather stay on LP, while waiting.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I am hesitant, because I'e been away from Moto rooting for a few years. I've been Samsung rooting, with TWRP and SafeStrap.
The stuff I'm reading here, about Minimal ADB, Fast boot folder and using cmd prompt is a bit daunting and I would like more time to continue reading and learning, before doing the deed.
ETA: I just realized that the OTA will come from Motorola, not Verizon. How does the OTA come>
Is there a Moto app, that I can disable, without root?
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I am going to link to the answer I gave to you here...YMMV of course...:laugh:
Naddict said:
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I am going to link to the answer I gave to you here...YMMV of course...:laugh:
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I found it, and replied.
My phone is on the way. It's perfectly timed with the imminent update to Marshmallow.
My plan is to get the OTA update first, and then root the phone. Can I still rely on the existing guides to root the phone? Or would I have to wait until root becomes discovered/available again on the new OS version?
You should be able to root it but we really won't know until the OTA arrives.
I've had the phone for a few days now, and happily I've received the 6.0 update OTA.
Is there any current info how whether Heisenberg's rooting guide still works? (completely, partially, ???)
nibunnoichi said:
I've had the phone for a few days now, and happily I've received the 6.0 update OTA.
Is there any current info how whether Heisenberg's rooting guide still works? (completely, partially, ???)
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yea root works if you read some more you have 2 options to root
patt2k said:
yea root works if you read some more you have 2 options to root
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The only 6.0 root option I've found is the systemless root.
What is the other? Is there regular root for 6.0?
I have not found a thread on that. I have only been reading for a few days, tho.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I have not even picked a ROM yet.
pizza_pablo said:
The only 6.0 root option I've found is the systemless root.
What is the other? Is there regular root for 6.0?
I have not found a thread on that. I have only been reading for a few days, tho.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I have not even picked a ROM yet.
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You flash SuperSU 2.52 + boot_root img. TruePureX rom has already built in Root,also sabissimos rom as well. Just pick rooted one or TruePure
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You flash SuperSU 2.52 + boot_root img. TruePureX rom has already built in Root,also sabissimos rom as well. Just pick rooted one or TruePure
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TruePureX is actually one of the ROMs I was thinking of flashing.
So, if I take the 6.0 update, I can still root in a relatively normal way?
systemless root does not sound like a path I wish to take.
How does the OTA come to this device? A Moto app, I presume?
Does Moto ram it down one's throat, like verizon?
I was just reading on the moto forum, about simply unlocking the bootloader will stop the OTA. I haven't finished the thread, but others were skeptical.
pizza_pablo said:
TruePureX is actually one of the ROMs I was thinking of flashing.
So, if I take the 6.0 update, I can still root in a relatively normal way?
systemless root does not sound like a path I wish to take.
How does the OTA come to this device? A Moto app, I presume?
Does Moto ram it down one's throat, like verizon?
I was just reading on the moto forum, about simply unlocking the bootloader will stop the OTA. I haven't finished the thread, but others were skeptical.
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I have tried both OTA and the stock rooted rom that is here in the development section, there are users who have had great success using the SU version 2.62...I personally have used 2.62, then 2.64 with great success...I have not used the system-less SU in these cases (although I have tested previously and they also worked)
so, feel free to flash the stock rom found in the development section, then flash 2.6(whatever works for you)...none of what I state is an endorsement of one rom over another, as all members here have contributed great efforts to get us this stuff...:good:
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I have tried both OTA and the stock rooted rom that is here in the development section, there are users who have had great success using the SU version 2.62...I personally have used 2.62, then 2.64 with great success...I have not used the system-less SU in these cases (although I have tested previously and they also worked)
so, feel free to flash the stock rom found in the development section, then flash 2.6(whatever works for you)...none of what I state is an endorsement of one rom over another, as all members here have contributed great efforts to get us this stuff...:good:
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I am not really following....I think you are saying that the ROMs are safe.
Are you saying that a "regular" root method, for 6.0 OTA is available and stable and I shouldn't be worried about taking the 6.0 OTA?
If I were to take the 6.0 OTA, could I get back to 5.1, since unlocked bootloader is available?
Could this be done with the return to stock tool, even after 6.0?
pizza_pablo said:
I am not really following....I think you are saying that the ROMs are safe.
Are you saying that a "regular" root method, for 6.0 OTA is available and stable and I shouldn't be worried about taking the 6.0 OTA?
If I were to take the 6.0 OTA, could I get back to 5.1, since unlocked bootloader is available?
Could this be done with the return to stock tool, even after 6.0?
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My point is, if you are rooted and unlocked, why take the OTA if you could just flash the 6.0 stock rom? why would you want to go back to 5.1?
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My point is, if you are rooted and unlocked, why take the OTA if you could just flash the 6.0 stock rom? why would you want to go back to 5.1?
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I just want to learn what I can, before I start doing anything. I've read much, but I'm still confused as to what is possible and what is not. I've not had a phone this new, with the capability of unlocking the bootloader.
I believe that if the MXPE is on 5.1.1 when I fire it up, it will soon want to install the update.
I would like some time with the phone before I have to jump into unlocking and rooting, but I don't think I'll have it, so I would like to be prepared.
Did they lock the bootloader in 6.0?
I'm in the same boat as the op. Seems like there's no clear tutorial or anything. I just want stock with everything included (factory) 6.0 with xposed and root. I didn't even see a flashable stock MM zip with root anywhere.
20degrees said:
Did they lock the bootloader in 6.0?
I'm in the same boat as the op. Seems like there's no clear tutorial or anything. I just want stock with everything included (factory) 6.0 with xposed and root. I didn't even see a flashable stock MM zip with root anywhere.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 here is stock in several flavors...if you do not have root, there are several options to try...systemless, or the latest beta SU's...some have stated that version 2.62 has been good for them...I have tried 2.62 and have also flashed 2.64 and both worked for me. Do some reading in these threads, plenty of guidance and info already about these issues.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 here is stock in several flavors...if you do not have root, there are several options to try...systemless, or the latest beta SU's...some have stated that version 2.62 has been good for them...I have tried 2.62 and have also flashed 2.64 and both worked for me. Do some reading in these threads, plenty of guidance and info already about these issues.
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Believe me, when I say that I AM reading. I had shoulder surgery, last Wednesday, so I've got time on my hands. How else do you think I ended up finding and buying a relatively new Motorola, with unlockable bootloader?
There is just so much info and while reading, I keep going down rabbit trails of other interesting things to know about rooting it, but may not be the most important question I have. I read the entire thread on the (De)Odex Stock / Rooted / Debloated 6.0 MPH24.49-18, last night and am still confused.
It just seems to be unclear whether or not 6.0 is fully rooted and if there is any going back, once you're there.
I am leery, because if the Note 3, in safestrap. Once a LP ROM was flashed there was no going back to KitKat, even tho, early on, many stated that it was possible.
I've been away from Motorola rooting, since my RAZR M. I don't recall all the PC steps.
pizza_pablo said:
Believe me, when I say that I AM reading. I had shoulder surgery, last Wednesday, so I've got time on my hands. How else do you think I ended up finding and buying a relatively new Motorola, with unlockable bootloader?
There is just so much info and while reading, I keep going down rabbit trails of other interesting things to know about rooting it, but may not be the most important question I have. I read the entire thread on the (De)Odex Stock / Rooted / Debloated 6.0 MPH24.49-18, last night and am still confused.
It just seems to be unclear whether or not 6.0 is fully rooted and if there is any going back, once you're there.
I am leery, because if the Note 3, in safestrap. Once a LP ROM was flashed there was no going back to KitKat, even tho, early on, many stated that it was possible.
I've been away from Motorola rooting, since my RAZR M. I don't recall all the PC steps.
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6.0 is rooted...see attached
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6.0 is rooted...see attached
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I believe that 6.0 is rooted.
My question is how.
Which root methods are available?
Is systemless the only choice?
What is the exact (step by step) flash order?
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired?
here are my offerings to your questions...
My question is how.
Which root methods are available? SU silly!
Is systemless the only choice? No -- (note my previous screenshot is not systemless and is beta 2.64) see my previous posts on this
What is the exact (step by step) flash order? see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/xt1572-mm-twrp-root-xposed-t3276792 but note it is for the 1572 device, steps are the same...you will need the 1575 Stock rom found here instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired? look in this thread, but start with this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64463125&postcount=179
here are my responses to your offerings to my questions...
My question is how.
Which root methods are available? SU silly! yeah, I meant traditional or systemless, silly
Is systemless the only choice? No -- (note my previous screenshot is not systemless and is beta 2.64) see my previous posts on this got it, thanks!
What is the exact (step by step) flash order? see this link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/xt1572-mm-twrp-root-xposed-t3276792 but note it is for the 1572 device, steps are the same...you will need the 1575 Stock rom found here instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...rom-stock-rooted-debloated-x1575-6-0-t3262242 ok, I've read most of the second link
Once the 6.0 OTA is taken, is it possible to go back to 5.1.1 stock or rooted, if desired? look in this thread, but start with this post...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64463125&postcount=179[/QUOTE] I've read most of this one, too.
I really appreciate you hanging with me, thru my confusion and apprehension!
Hello Everyone. I'm new to this forum, so please be kind. I have searched extensively for the answer to my question.
So, I spent a whole day upgrading and rooting my SM-G900V Galaxy S5. Lots of dead ends on this, but I got it! I did this because I needed more room on my internal memory. I was almost out, so I used Titanium Backup and uninstalled all the bloat apps.
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
I used XDA forums pretty extensively for information for getting as far as I have. Many, many thanks.
Dave
DaveInTrinity said:
Hello Everyone. I'm new to this forum, so please be kind. I have searched extensively for the answer to my question.
So, I spent a whole day upgrading and rooting my SM-G900V Galaxy S5. Lots of dead ends on this, but I got it! I did this because I needed more room on my internal memory. I was almost out, so I used Titanium Backup and uninstalled all the bloat apps.
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
I used XDA forums pretty extensively for information for getting as far as I have. Many, many thanks.
Dave
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If your looking to upgrade to MM 6.0. You need to download the latest MM stock image and Odin back to full unrooted stock. Then re-root, install your custom recovery and flash what ever rom you want.. Yes if you flash back to stock MM in order to upgrade, then naturally all the bloat will come back.. But will not be there once you re-root and flash another rom.
DaveInTrinity said:
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
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1. Depends on the ROM. BTW, "free user space" does not depend on the ROM. Almost does not.
2. Yes. You will have to reroot it, if possible.
There is a good G900V section on the forum and you may like to read about CID, locked bootloader and MM rooting there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
bbsc said:
1. Depends on the ROM. BTW, "free user space" does not depend on the ROM. Almost does not.
2. Yes. You will have to reroot it, if possible.
There is a good G900V section on the forum and you may like to read about CID, locked bootloader and MM rooting there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
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Thank you for the reply, information, and link. I will go through it. I hadn't been able to find a MM rooting system that worked which is why I reverted to Lollipop. I actually had a lot of trouble even rooting 5.0 as nothing worked until I came upon the Blackcat scripts. That worked great.
Dave
DaveInTrinity said:
I hadn't been able to find a MM rooting system that worked which is why I reverted to Lollipop. I actually had a lot of trouble even rooting 5.0 as nothing worked until I came upon the Blackcat scripts. That worked great.
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You're welcome.
Look, LP and below does not require unlocked bootloader to be rooted. MM and abode does. That's why the possibility of rooting MM on your phone depends on it's hardware (CID).
Blackcat's scripts are great, but the modern method is to flash a "COMBINATION" ROM which can be rooted easily, to root it, to install SafeStrap Recovery and then to flash your favorite ROM (system partition) and firmware (bootloader, kernel, modem, recovery). The last action may contain bootloader unlocking process if the hardware is compatible.