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Hi guys,
I decided to share with you my thoughts about Samsung Galaxy S.
Historicaly, in the last 2 years I owned HTC Tyt'n 2, iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, and now Galaxy S.
Out of all these devices I have to recognise that the iPhone wad the most user friendly phone I ever have. Unfortunatly the fact my local cellular company doesn't sell it so after a re-softing to 3.1.3 I had to sell it....
I took HD2 because at that moment of time Galaxy S was not available. When it become available in Romania, last week, I quiqly buy it.
And now...... I am totaly dissapointed!
1. I can not use the embeded email client for Exchange and Yahoo accounts.
2. I had to serch and to install a separate Exchange email client, Moxier. It's ok but it has some limitations;
3. I installed the Yahoo email client from Android Market, but simply I can not use it!!! If I open it the CPU is going to 100% and the phone is working ver slow. So practicaly I can not check my Yahoo emails;
4. When I open for the first time an application, I wait arround 15 seconds!?! I saw on the forum that this is normal..... Strange.
And I can continue.....
What's wrong with this phone? My impression is that, simply it is not prepared for mass market delivery! Samsung doesn't care about their customers and it hurry up to launch it.
I saw how Apple react at the anntena signal issue.... Big difference! Samsung doesn't care that Google launch Android 2.2! How can they wait for launching it on their phones, when they have so big troubles? And we are speaking about the highest end phone in their portofolio.
I am still patient, but if I continue to have issues in my daily staff using the phone I 'll change it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Mircea
PS: I am using the official last software
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With the 2.2 Update, it's only barely come out officially. While its likely true that developers would have had internal builds to test out on, they only now have their solid base. You can see this with the desire being close to having it's froyo update to come out soon - looks like that we are going to be about a month or two past that.
I'm not dissapointed with this phone, love the interface so far, and the thought samsung put into things like divx playback.
I am a bit let down by not having it an easily to use device for development though.
For your mail woes, maybe you didn't do enough research.
It's common knowledge that only Froyo brings in Exchange support. There will be other apps, but until Froyo, there won't be any official google support.
For POP/IMAP (which'll be your Yahoo, Gmail and probably your Exchange if you ask your IT Support nice enough), look at K-9 Mail. It's fantastic. It's taken from the original mail client android comes with and built ontop, with things like IMAP IDLE (push) and some other very nice features.
My Galaxy S is simply fantastic, yes i have noticed a few slow-down issues, which i wasn't expecting, but the Samsung guys are working hard to fix them i'm sure, as are the hacker community here on XDA.
One thing i have noticed, where i am in London, i haven't seen a single advert for the Galaxy S. However they are selling really well, and getting very good feedback. I'm convinced Sammy did this to release the device, iron out the wrinkles, then attack it with Marketing. The hackers have already got the device running faster than a Nexus One with Froyo on it, with a slightly modded 2.1. Imagine what 2.2 will be like.
Simply amazing phone, don't regret choosing it over the Desire a single bit.
And FYI, Apples initial reaction to the Antenna issues were appauling, 'Don't hold it like that', is not the response you expect from one of the big 3. They are only now 'patching' the issue with a free rubber band, instead of actually fixing it.
You should try out k9. It's so much faster than the crappy stock email client. UI is good. You can refresh all mail account instead of having to do it one by one as in the stock. You an set up yahoo account whereas stock mail can't. There is a select all button for mass deletion, mark read, or mark unread, which is great. Performance is still slow compared to iPhone's but is way better than the stock. I also like the gesture feature to move from mail to mail like one would in viewing pictures. Try it. You might like it.
You may need a task killer as the phone multitasks really well, please consider that the phone will be like %150 better when froyo comes and for me this phone is a beast already
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mirceal said:
Hi guys,
I decided to share with you my thoughts about Samsung Galaxy S.
Historicaly, in the last 2 years I owned HTC Tyt'n 2, iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, and now Galaxy S.
Out of all these devices I have to recognise that the iPhone wad the most user friendly phone I ever have. Unfortunatly the fact my local cellular company doesn't sell it so after a re-softing to 3.1.3 I had to sell it....
I took HD2 because at that moment of time Galaxy S was not available. When it become available in Romania, last week, I quiqly buy it.
And now...... I am totaly dissapointed!
1. I can not use the embeded email client for Exchange and Yahoo accounts.
2. I had to serch and to install a separate Exchange email client, Moxier. It's ok but it has some limitations;
3. I installed the Yahoo email client from Android Market, but simply I can not use it!!! If I open it the CPU is going to 100% and the phone is working ver slow. So practicaly I can not check my Yahoo emails;
4. When I open for the first time an application, I wait arround 15 seconds!?! I saw on the forum that this is normal..... Strange.
And I can continue.....
What's wrong with this phone? My impression is that, simply it is not prepared for mass market delivery! Samsung doesn't care about their customers and it hurry up to launch it.
I saw how Apple react at the anntena signal issue.... Big difference! Samsung doesn't care that Google launch Android 2.2! How can they wait for launching it on their phones, when they have so big troubles? And we are speaking about the highest end phone in their portofolio.
I am still patient, but if I continue to have issues in my daily staff using the phone I 'll change it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Mircea
PS: I am using the official last software
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Yup yup yup, my experience is exactly the same as yours ...i also could not attache files on the email client program, although there is button that says 'attach files".
Yup it took long time for the email to start and download the emails....and everything else is slowed down.....
After having some more issues with the phone and the crappy GPS system.... i opened the map program and the gps initially showed my position on the map and as i moved , it didnt track my position, so after traveling more than 60km, i was still in my original position....
i just got fed up and sold the phone.....
everything about this phone hardware wise, the screen, big internal memory, 720p video recording, iphone style app browsing are very good, but when the basic function is as flawed as this, it just doesnt cut it....
K9 can attach files though. Just drop the stock mail client and half your problems are gone.
Huh?
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't support Exchange accounts???
Yes it does, I have one setup right here!
Do you guys have different firmware????
I cant help but to look a little suspiciously at some of the threads that have been started lately. There are a couple things that need to be fixed but the problems are not nearly has huge as they are made out to be. Not once did i have to wait 15 seconds for an ap to open. In fact after installing autokiller on the stock firmware the phone has been great with the excepton of the gps. The gps usually gets a lock quickly but it often loses connection for about 15 seconds or so making it impractical to use as a turn by turn solution. Driving for 60 miles with no lock is ridiculous, you are making things up or your phone is broken.
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I agree Dakine, note how he did once have an iphone. There is already a thread started for the iphone fanboys attacking the Samsung Galaxy.
Yes i have a few issues with my phone, only minor ones but you show me an absolutely perfect smartphone without one glitch and i guess we can then shut XDA down and all buy that one. It ain't gonna happen
I reckon someone's got an iphone 4 and because they can't use it they spend their time trolling other phone users with ridiculous remarks like 15 seconds to open an app?? i can choose to fire up any app and i don't wait no more than 6 seconds. Use a task killer to clean up the back ground and that time drops even further. Even with the problems i am still totally happy with this phone
Either someone had a very faulty phone which is possible (in which case send it back) or you have an iphone 4 on the desk (not in your hand because it won't work )
Maybe hire goons from iphone.
How well did apple handled the signal issues? first they start by telling you that you are holding it wrong. Then until more fact comes out that the problem are design defects they decided to offer users cheap case rather than refunds.
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sjdean said:
Huh?
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't support Exchange accounts???
Yes it does, I have one setup right here!
Do you guys have different firmware????
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yeh, i had no probs setting up my Exchange account straight out of the box.
Hello guys,
I see that finally I succeded to open your interest with my thread. I already opened 2 thread regarding my issues but I got few answers.
It seems that, speaking about iPhone in this Forum, everybody become a litle bit nervos.
Anyway answering to kcharng and stickfinger I am not an iPhone boy or something simillar. I spent some money for Galaxy S! Do you think I am stupid to spend money senseless!?!?!
Anyway I got some hints from thes answers:
1. Obviously Galaxy S has an issue with the Exchange client. What I don't understand is why some phone's are working without any problem (I have coleagues which own GAlaxy S working with this feature) and other not! What can be different....
2. I will try K9 email client. I see that it has good referencies;
3. I will start to use an Auto Task Killer program. Now I am using Advanced Task Killer but it seems it is not so eficient. Can I get some referencies about an Auto Task Killer program and how this is working?
And one more thing: finally these devices should help you in your job and also bring you more fun, and not bringing you all the time issues to be solved....
I can not belive that, related to Exchange client, an Windows Mobile 6.5(which finally is a ****ty OS....) can work so easily with any email server!!!
Thanks guys for your answers,
BR,
Mircea
mirceal said:
Hello guys,
I see that finally I succeded to open your interest with my thread. I already opened 2 thread regarding my issues but I got few answers.
It seems that, speaking about iPhone in this Forum, everybody become a litle bit nervos.
Anyway answering to kcharng and stickfinger I am not an iPhone boy or something simillar. I spent some money for Galaxy S! Do you think I am stupid to spend money senseless!?!?!
Anyway I got some hints from thes answers:
1. Obviously Galaxy S has an issue with the Exchange client. What I don't understand is why some phone's are working without any problem (I have coleagues which own GAlaxy S working with this feature) and other not! What can be different....
2. I will try K9 email client. I see that it has good referencies;
3. I will start to use an Auto Task Killer program. Now I am using Advanced Task Killer but it seems it is not so eficient. Can I get some referencies about an Auto Task Killer program and how this is working?
And one more thing: finally these devices should help you in your job and also bring you more fun, and not bringing you all the time issues to be solved....
I can not belive that, related to Exchange client, an Windows Mobile 6.5(which finally is a ****ty OS....) can work so easily with any email server!!!
Thanks guys for your answers,
BR,
Mircea
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You cannot believe that a MICROSOFT OS works with MICROSOFT exchange easily?
/facepalm
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If you use yahoo, the sgs is not for you... lol
Been using my sgs for a month now, and love it. Just rooted it and been using launcher pro from day one. Also a good task killer makes a big dif. Using it for sat nav have been a pleasure aswell. No signal problems here.
Using the app called auto memory cleaner. Works out of the box.
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I have had the Galaxy S (vibrant) about three days, but have used it a lot.
First, as a behold 2 owner, I know that Samsung is a crappy company when it comes to support. If you are not willing to root and play with your phone, then I would def not go with Samsung. That said, they also make their phones the hardest to root. As I am sure the developers on this site are figuring out if they hadn't already.
I did decide to purchase this because of the phone already being rooted, I figured the community would have froyo on it within a month or two. Either way, I really like this phone.
I have not had any of the issues posted. A tad bit of lag when opening games, but other than that, even apps load instantly.
In short:
Samsung = Crap
Galaxy S = Best phone out with horrid customizations to android and firmware altogether.
I'd advise you not to base your opinion upon the expirience with the samsung galaxy i7500.
Since it's release, samsung already released 3 firmware updates, IN ONE MONTH.
They're working very hard to change their poor public image about software support.
I think it'd be wise to see what diraction this is going in before starting to judge them, and especially before stating stupid stuff like "Samsung=Crap"
regarding Exchange... i have a windows mobile phone, and not even itself works all that great with exchange
ironically enough, if i use gmail as my exchange server, everything works wonderfully.
now back to SGS, i'm quite confortable with K9 it works just fine and i can attach files
i think what you need to do, is to configure the "lagfix" that people has been talking about, that will solve half of your problem regarding speed
i'll also suggest to upgrade to the latest firmware
Omfg fed up of reading this bull
Hi guys,
Thanks for the hint with K9. It's exactly what I need for my acciunts from Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail.
Mircea
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Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
Here is a short list of features that I *love* about the Xoom so far:
- Holy **** the screen is sexy. Playing around with some of these apps on a 10" widescreen is awesome.
- Battery Life - I am charing the thing overnight, picking it up in the morning at 100% and then typically ending the day at 70+% remaining. This is fantastic to me.
- Portability and ease of access - Using my acer netbook was a pain in the ass because I had to wait for windows to load, the desktop to show up... the workspace to be ready. This is instant on and ready.
- RDP works well - I can get into my books from anywhere, generate invoices and e-mail them to a customer right there on the spot. It's impressive and when you're a technology company it just looks good.
- Email support - The exchange support is awesome. The stock mail client could be a little stronger but I am very happy that it supports HTML as the android 2.2 / 2.3 mail client on my Nexus One does not/did not.
- Available storage space - Not having the SD slot isn't bothering me one bit. I would go as far as saying I may not ever even need it. Shipping the product with 32GB of internal storage was the way to go.
- App support - Out of the box, like 90% of my apps worked fine (granted I only use heavily maybe 5 out of the 40 that i have installed). The one or two apps that were missing at launch I've already gotten word from the developers that tablet ready versions or updates are on the way.
- Connectivity - Being a first time Verizon subscriber I am very impressed with the radio and/or 3G network behind it. When my AT&T phone has a **** signal or no signal at all, this Xoom tablet still picks up signal. That's cool to me and is a point that I would like to make separately about the need for the 3G version. Sure, I can tether through my AT&T phone but then I've got two points of failure to worry about.
My thoughts and comments regarding media consumption on this device:
- Music - I haven't had any issues at all. I use Windows Media Player 12 as a part of Windows 7 to manage my music library and it works wonderfully with the Xoom. I sync music to it just like any other generic MP3/music player. I susbcribe to the Zune Pass so actually obtaining music for me is a function I do on my PC, and then just transfer the music as I want or need it. To say that I must be able to download or purchase XYZ song on the road isn't necessary... isn't that what Pandora is for? Use Pandora to listen to what you want until you are in a position to purchase music, then do that. That's how I approach it.
- Videos/Movies - I'm not really a big "watch videos/movies on your portable" guy to begin with. That said, I do like to use youtube to show off certain things like video game trailers or movie trailers or something... but you tube isn't the issue on the Xoom and I don't think ever has been or ever will be. Some people have complained that the Xoom doesn't play the same H.264 videos that they can play on their Droid. To them I say that I'm sorry but your droid isn't running a Tegra 2 chipset. I do agree that the Tegra 2 should be able to handle a lot but I didn't design it.. shrug, what do I know. Seemingly however... the thing plays H.264 just fine if its encoded properly and it looks damn good. I ripped Kill Bill Volume 1 to H.264 with a 2k bitrate and it looked fantastic on the Xoom screen. I will admit that I'm not the best guy to take advice from in this area.
My thoughts / comments on whiners:
- Flash / SD Card Support - I really don't have anything to say about this. Flash 10.2 will be out soon enough and as far as the SD card is concerned I don't even need it. I only have a 4GB Class 6 micro SD card what's that going to do for me? It's laughable in size compared to whats in the unit.. I would only want to put a matching 32GB sd card in and that's gonna be another $100 minimum. Now your $799 device is an $899 device... where's the complaint for that?
- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
Nice review, particularly liked, "- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone."
Couldn't agree more!
Just ordered myself a Xoom and you've made me feel even better about my purchase. I'm a little worried about the video codecs thing but I'm sure Rockplayer or some such will sort that out. Thanks for a great review.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone has particular questions about the device or advice on how to best use the device for their situation fire away.
agreed up to one point
i agree man, def however
google voice must be used on this. not because of texting as a cellphone but because it does much more and can be so amazingly baked with all other google products.
that my friend, is inarguable.
please help that at least here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978779
You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
cwizardtx said:
You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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Google Voice gives you a platform independent texting and voicemail interface. It does help to have it handy.
Why shouldn't your android tablet and phone be linked in some way so that you could receive notifications on either device and respond to them exactly like how webos works? Who could act like this is a ridiculous request??
Also, don't get your hopes up with regards to media playback. Tegra 2 is awful in that regard and has been proven on here in a different thread to be incapable of 720p high profile, which all galaxy s phones can do flawlessly.
Also, asking got certain features or if something is possible is not complaining.
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my second one is much more protected now thanks for the sad comment.
anyways, i am baffled at how one wouldnt want this, clearly people havent FOUND the use of it, to which i understand.
the customizations on notifications; be it text or voicemail is amazing and so useful, having this on your tablet WILL be a big plus trust me.
controlling voice mail set ups for particular people, having transcribed vm being able to foward that/ download that, controll recorded phone conversations, archiving, starring emails/texts
cwizardtx said:
- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
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Couldnt you use an app to hand those stuff over your 3g/4g services?
I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
martonikaj said:
I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
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The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
Eclair~ said:
The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
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I agree. And its something that iOS and Android aren't even close to implementing. I see no reason why Google couldn't figure this out. I'm assuming that it will come later, probably with 2.4 for phones which will apparently implement what Google learned about 3.0 back into phones.
Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
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Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
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I use SMS Backup for this very reason and just put gmail label shortcuts on my tablet. If my phone is upstairs or in my bag, I can just check the email to see if I got any texts.
But it would be cool if I could automatically notify on my tablet.
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Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
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I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
Morkai Almandragon said:
I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
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I agree. People that make an argument like this are no better than apple in telling them what limits their device has.
And the guy wasn't complaining about airplane GPS, he was just wondering about it. There's a lot of people that do recreational flying and only do daylight clear weather trips. A GPS is great to tell you where you are, its not like they'd be using it to get from point A to point B or landing on a runway in fog or flying a commercial airliner.
Just because someone wants something better (for them) doesn't mean its a complaint, its merely a wish. Ideas and hopes make these devices better and inspire devs to create things we all love.
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On the iPhone, if you record a video of any length in any format, including 1080p, you can still send it as an MMS. Granted, it will look grainy and choppy, but it will automatically compress.
The Optimus G will do this as well, with one extra step (agree to edit, then just click save and it will compress and send). This makes the Optimus G the first Android phone with this functionality.
Is there an app that will do this on the Nexus 4? I'm aware of the option to record in MMS quality and I have looked at several video trimming apps. What I'm looking for is an app that actually automatically compresses a recorded video down to the maximum allowed MMS size (~600kb) and lets me send it.
There has to be a way. LG figured it out. I can't believe there's no app out there that does this.
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On the iPhone, if you record a video of any length in any format, including 1080p, you can still send it as an MMS. Granted, it will look grainy and choppy, but it will automatically compress.
The Optimus G will do this as well, with one extra step (agree to edit, then just click save and it will compress and send). This makes the Optimus G the first Android phone with this functionality.
Is there an app that will do this on the Nexus 4? I'm aware of the option to record in MMS quality and I have looked at several video trimming apps. What I'm looking for is an app that actually automatically compresses a recorded video down to the maximum allowed MMS size (~600kb) and lets me send it.
There has to be a way. LG figured it out. I can't believe there's no app out there that does this.
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Unfortunately I'm not here with an answer, just chiming in.
It is baffling that this functionality still isn't present in stock Android.
iPhone users have had this capability for years now. It's somewhat embarrassing, and a major PITA for Android users to have to embark on a multi-step process simply to mms a short video clip to a friend.
Android users usually respond with the following suggestions (many stating that it's 'no big deal' but they're lying to themselves)
- Upload the clip to youtube and share the link
----Too many steps, and I don't want to put every single video clip up on Youtube.
- Use a video editing app to crop/downscale the video
---- Again, to many steps, multiple apps
- Take the video from WITHIN the mms app (which automatically uses a lower video quality that will keep file size down)
---- Unacceptable. I prefer to take all of my videos in HD, and won't sacrifice quality simply to be able to send it straight to someone via MMS
I think a lot of Android users are making a major concession here. The entire text/mms experience on Android is a mess. Group texting with other device users is a nightmare. Conversations splinter off into one-on-one conversations for Android users, requiring third party texting apps to enable group text capabilities. This is one area where I'll openly admit that iOS has Android stomped, and to come to Android's defense on this issue will only result in us having a crappy experience for even longer. /Rant
Sorry, it's late, and I'm a little punchy.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=roman10.media.converter
Forgive me, but this core and important function is something I've never before thought of needing. One play search seemed to sort it. While we're on the subject, I recently had to use an iPad for recording interviews, and upload them via drop box. The auto 1080p format then took nearly forever to upload. It took a paid app to lower the resolution and a variety of rather frustrating steps to upload to db. I can't believe apple have survived with all this unacceptability! (Yeah, most of these rants are quite pointless)
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kboya said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=roman10.media.converter
Forgive me, but this core and important function is something I've never before thought of needing. One play search seemed to sort it. While we're on the subject, I recently had to use an iPad for recording interviews, and upload them via drop box. The auto 1080p format then took nearly forever to upload. It took a paid app to lower the resolution and a variety of rather frustrating steps to upload to db. I can't believe apple have survived with all this unacceptability! (Yeah, most of these rants are quite pointless)
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A media converter is not a solution for this issue.
We are talkjng about seamless and timely communication, not just the capability to edit video (quality).
Yoir response makes me wonder if you've ever communicated with anybody via text/mms.
Time is of the essence. To be able to shoot a 30 second video, pop it straight in to an mms exchange and hit send is a a major convenience, and one that should be ubiquitous in the mobile arena by now.
Your dropbox scenario is not even in the same vein as this issue. This an issue of major inconvenience in the way that many people communicate regularly.
For some perspective on how prevslebt your quandry is in comparison, consider thst there are aboit 100m Dropbox users in the world but there are about 4.1B text messages sent EVERY DAY just in the USA...
So your issue is certainly not as prevalent as one that impscts sms/mms negatively. Dropbox is hardly your only option for achieving your end goal in your example, whereas we are stuck with an antiqued mms/sms platform on Android.
I love android, which is why I just picked up a Galaxy Note 2, but I really wish people would stop downplaying glaring flaws such as this.
Certainly we can jump through a couple of apps and juggle a couple of files to ultimately send an mms video, but is clunky and slow, and if you're on the move, its just not practical.
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Hah. Archa1c, This issue, were it so disabling, would surely be no1 topic on every board. I take your point, but feel you are overstating it, more so than anyone who underplays it.
If you wish to make thinly veiled insults, fine. Your response makes me me wonder if
1. You've ever used email(much larger file sizes, and 144.8 billion a day)
2. You understand the notion of a smartphone as a platform on which functionality may be added in highly specialised and personally tailored ways.
The slogan 'there's an app for that' springs to mind. Isn't this the point? Not to have everything fixed and there (and limited), but to be able to add functionality as your need takes you. Maybe you could build an app that does what you wish it to do, or petition a dev to build it for you.
Lastly, as the skilled communicator that you clearly are (and in so many media) need you be quite so abrasive?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=roman10.media.converter
Forgive me, but this core and important function is something I've never before thought of needing. One play search seemed to sort it. While we're on the subject, I recently had to use an iPad for recording interviews, and upload them via drop box. The auto 1080p format then took nearly forever to upload. It took a paid app to lower the resolution and a variety of rather frustrating steps to upload to db. I can't believe apple have survived with all this unacceptability! (Yeah, most of these rants are quite pointless)
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Yeah, that app doesn't work. I have tried it, along with every other app that claims to have the function.
Up until my Optimus G, no other phone, other than iPhone could do this seamlessly. I can't believe there still isn't an app that can duplicate this functionality. I can't be the only one who desires this. I switched back to an iPhone several times just to get this functionality back.
Sometimes, it's the simple things that matter.
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Hah. Archa1c, This issue, were it so disabling, would surely be no1 topic on every board. I take your point, but feel you are overstating it, more so than anyone who underplays it.
If you wish to make thinly veiled insults, fine. Your response makes me me wonder if
1. You've ever used email(much larger file sizes, and 144.8 billion a day)
2. You understand the notion of a smartphone as a platform on which functionality may be added in highly specialised and personally tailored ways.
The slogan 'there's an app for that' springs to mind. Isn't this the point? Not to have everything fixed and there (and limited), but to be able to add functionality as your need takes you. Maybe you could build an app that does what you wish it to do, or petition a dev to build it for you.
Lastly, as the skilled communicator that you clearly are (and in so many media) need you be quite so abrasive?
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Sorry for coming off as abrasive, but your patronizing and condescending tone was off-putting.
Clearly we hold this issue at quite different levels of priority. I think that must be attributed to us communicating with friends in very different ways.
The simplicity and functionality that some Android hardware device manufacturers (and Apple) have decided to put into their messaging code in the form of easy media sharing via MMS shows that there is clearly demand for it.
Again you've proposed an insufficient alternative with email. Every phone supports SMS, but many people do not use email regularly on their phones. I cannot be expected to know what the capabilities are of each recipient.
You don't need to come to Android's defense or sell me on the OS. I'm already a multi-device user and I love it, but thst doesn't mean I should just accept the bad with the good.
You also don't have to tell me about iOS' shortcomings. I know. That's why I have my Note 2 and Galaxy Tab.
I maintain that SMS and MMS on Android is embarrassingly primitive compared to the competition. And unfortunately there IS NOT 'an app for that'.
With love, your brother in Android.
- Archa1c
PS- what's my best option for good keyboard Autocorrect while maintaining the stock Samsung keyboard? (I prefer this keyboard to swiftkey's)
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archa1c said:
Sorry for coming off as abrasive, but your patronizing and condescending tone was off-putting.
Clearly we hold this issue at quite different levels of priority. I think that must be attributed to us communicating with friends in very different ways.
The simplicity and functionality that some Android hardware device manufacturers (and Apple) have decided to put into their messaging code in the form of easy media sharing via MMS shows that there is clearly demand for it.
Again you've proposed an insufficient alternative with email. Every phone supports SMS, but many people do not use email regularly on their phones. I cannot be expected to know what the capabilities are of each recipient.
You don't need to come to Android's defense or sell me on the OS. I'm already a multi-device user and I love it, but thst doesn't mean I should just accept the bad with the good.
You also don't have to tell me about iOS' shortcomings. I know. That's why I have my Note 2 and Galaxy Tab.
I maintain that SMS and MMS on Android is embarrassingly primitive compared to the competition. And unfortunately there IS NOT 'an app for that'.
With love, your brother in Android.
- Archa1c
PS- what's my best option for good keyboard Autocorrect while maintaining the stock Samsung keyboard? (I prefer this keyboard to swiftkey's)
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I actually find Samsung's keyboard to be slightly laggy (and don't get me started on the auto correction). I recommend Swiftkey 3, or the stock new Jelly Bean keyboard on the play store. The stock Jelly Bean is actually very good, though you'll probably miss the numbers row.
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greyhulk said:
I actually find Samsung's keyboard to be slightly laggy (and don't get me started on the auto correction). I recommend Swiftkey 3, or the stock new Jelly Bean keyboard on the play store. The stock Jelly Bean is actually very good, though you'll probably miss the numbers row.
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The numbers row!
Thats exactly what im trying to maintain while also having good Autocorrect. The blue word suggestions are spot-on, but I wish it would just select them rather than requiring me to tap the suggested word... Maybe if I go back and edit my "typing style"?...
Good talk.
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Unfortunately I'm not here with an answer, just chiming in.
It is baffling that this functionality still isn't present in stock Android.
iPhone users have had this capability for years now. It's somewhat embarrassing, and a major PITA for Android users to have to embark on a multi-step process simply to mms a short video clip to a friend.
Android users usually respond with the following suggestions (many stating that it's 'no big deal' but they're lying to themselves)
- Upload the clip to youtube and share the link
----Too many steps, and I don't want to put every single video clip up on Youtube.
- Use a video editing app to crop/downscale the video
---- Again, to many steps, multiple apps
- Take the video from WITHIN the mms app (which automatically uses a lower video quality that will keep file size down)
---- Unacceptable. I prefer to take all of my videos in HD, and won't sacrifice quality simply to be able to send it straight to someone via MMS
I think a lot of Android users are making a major concession here. The entire text/mms experience on Android is a mess. Group texting with other device users is a nightmare. Conversations splinter off into one-on-one conversations for Android users, requiring third party texting apps to enable group text capabilities. This is one area where I'll openly admit that iOS has Android stomped, and to come to Android's defense on this issue will only result in us having a crappy experience for even longer. /Rant
Sorry, it's late, and I'm a little punchy.
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I agree completely. Coming from an iPhone to a Galaxy Note II the lack of this functionality baffles me. Have you found any better solutions yet? Do any of the custom ROMs add this feature?
archa1c said:
Sorry for coming off as abrasive, but your patronizing and condescending tone was off-putting.
Clearly we hold this issue at quite different levels of priority. I think that must be attributed to us communicating with friends in very different ways.
The simplicity and functionality that some Android hardware device manufacturers (and Apple) have decided to put into their messaging code in the form of easy media sharing via MMS shows that there is clearly demand for it.
Again you've proposed an insufficient alternative with email. Every phone supports SMS, but many people do not use email regularly on their phones. I cannot be expected to know what the capabilities are of each recipient.
You don't need to come to Android's defense or sell me on the OS. I'm already a multi-device user and I love it, but thst doesn't mean I should just accept the bad with the good.
You also don't have to tell me about iOS' shortcomings. I know. That's why I have my Note 2 and Galaxy Tab.
I maintain that SMS and MMS on Android is embarrassingly primitive compared to the competition. And unfortunately there IS NOT 'an app for that'.
With love, your brother in Android.
- Archa1c
PS- what's my best option for good keyboard Autocorrect while maintaining the stock Samsung keyboard? (I prefer this keyboard to swiftkey's)
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You're wrong if you read the original post 1080p video recording isn't available to every phone that supports SMS. Only high end smart phones that also have email capabilities support this.
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I as well recently switched from an iPhone to an Android device and was amazed to find out that I no longer have the ability to send a video over mms. I would have thought that there was an app for that but have not found one to date. IOS does this as seamless as sending a photo over mms, Why cant android do the same?
Yeah I know this is really old but is there a fix yet? Just coming from ios I had no idea this was an issue. What a huge issue if it's.
Hi all.. Just throwing out there my AT&T S7 edge is downloading an update at this very moment. 11:30 pm Friday night. Not sure what all it is but I'll post an update tomorrow! Hopefully they're fixing the wonky distortion on videos and fixing my problem of landscape vids not playing back in landscape! We shall see!
I just updated mine early this morning and frankly I can't tell what changed.
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From what I read in another post it was just a security patch.
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From what I read in another post it was just a security patch.
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That's what I have been reading too. Didn't fix any of the number of issues I am having, so it seems to have been the case.
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That's what I have been reading too. Didn't fix any of the number of issues I am having, so it seems to have been the case.
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What problems are you having?
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What problems are you having?
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Tons of issues sending quality multimedia messages. I guess I'm just too used to how it worked in iOS. Sent whatever I wanted with minimal if any quality issues (only when it was an absolutely MASSIVE video). Everything on this phone gets so compressed it's not even worth sharing. Even just simple photos. Kind of a let down with the awesome camera. Slightly less important (now that I figured out a formula with package disabling and all) was how much work is involved in getting proper battery life. Having figured out that dance though it's not really a problem anymore. It's pretty silly that it was necessary at all but I can live with it.
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Tons of issues sending quality multimedia messages. I guess I'm just too used to how it worked in iOS. Sent whatever I wanted with minimal if any quality issues (only when it was an absolutely MASSIVE video). Everything on this phone gets so compressed it's not even worth sharing. Even just simple photos. Kind of a let down with the awesome camera. Slightly less important (now that I figured out a formula with package disabling and all) was how much work is involved in getting proper battery life. Having figured out that dance though it's not really a problem anymore. It's pretty silly that it was necessary at all but I can live with it.
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The MMS quality drop is probably my biggest complaint with Android. There is no "imessage" type messaging app that will not compress the images/videos and make them look borderline unwatchable on the receiver's end. I'm hoping the upcoming Google Allo messaging may be the answer, but as of now if I want my pics on vids to retain quality, I have to send them via FB messenger.
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The MMS quality drop is probably my biggest complaint with Android. There is no "imessage" type messaging app that will not compress the images/videos and make them look borderline unwatchable on the receiver's end. I'm hoping the upcoming Google Allo messaging may be the answer, but as of now if I want my pics on vids to retain quality, I have to send them via FB messenger.
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Mine too. The camera drew me to the phone. I used my sister's S7 Edge one day while playing with my niece at the park while my iPhone was charging. I immediately wanted to get one. Got one and love it... Except that all the things I do with this brilliant camera can't really be shared unless I convince my friends, family and coworkers to join Facebook, Whatsapp, Telegram, or ask them to visit a file hosting site. The camera made me want it but if I'd tried to send myself an MMS of the photos and videos I took that day the desire would have immediately passed. It's more than a bit silly. Photos are not too bad, they don't get compressed so bad that they are unviewable on another phone... But videos, frankly it's ****ing ridiculous. There's really no excuse at all for it. Maybe on cellular data but if on wifi, no excuse at all. I hope that Allo helps as well.
If not and if no solution comes around within a year or so this will have to be my first and last Android device. I can deal with the manufacturer and carriers having no clue how to optimize a device and making the end user have to do a massive dance to get through a day on a single charge. It's not like we have to set the phone up every single day so that's not such a big deal. Even the bloatware and duplicate apps are not so bad because you can force them to go away. But the MMS thing is really, really difficult to live with.
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Mine too. The camera drew me to the phone. I used my sister's S7 Edge one day while playing with my niece at the park while my iPhone was charging. I immediately wanted to get one. Got one and love it... Except that all the things I do with this brilliant camera can't really be shared unless I convince my friends, family and coworkers to join Facebook, Whatsapp, Telegram, or ask them to visit a file hosting site. The camera made me want it but if I'd tried to send myself an MMS of the photos and videos I took that day the desire would have immediately passed. It's more than a bit silly. Photos are not too bad, they don't get compressed so bad that they are unviewable on another phone... But videos, frankly it's ****ing ridiculous. There's really no excuse at all for it. Maybe on cellular data but if on wifi, no excuse at all. I hope that Allo helps as well.
If not and if no solution comes around within a year or so this will have to be my first and last Android device. I can deal with the manufacturer and carriers having no clue how to optimize a device and making the end user have to do a massive dance to get through a day on a single charge. It's not like we have to set the phone up every single day so that's not such a big deal. Even the bloatware and duplicate apps are not so bad because you can force them to go away. But the MMS thing is really, really difficult to live with.
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Yeah couldn't have said it better myself. Having owned and used every Android flagship since the first Galaxy S, all the HTC and Nexus and LG and Notes and everything in between, you would think it'd be an easy issue to resolve. I understand carrier bandwidth restrictions and all, but its this same issue that keeps me jumping back to an Apple device over and over. Sucks cause I'm in love with this camera.
cadorette said:
Yeah couldn't have said it better myself. Having owned and used every Android flagship since the first Galaxy S, all the HTC and Nexus and LG and Notes and everything in between, you would think it'd be an easy issue to resolve. I understand carrier bandwidth restrictions and all, but its this same issue that keeps me jumping back to an Apple device over and over. Sucks cause I'm in love with this camera.
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I understand that they have bandwidth restrictions too but it seems to be a problem that could have been resolved by now. I had no issues sending MMS messages with my iPhone, and haven't had since the very early versions. Even sending them to my friends or family who use Android, it was a pretty painless affair and the quality was fine (not as good between iOS and Android as it was iOS to iOS, but it was fine). If Apple can do it (still on AT&T) then why can't Samsung sort it out? Perhaps make it necessary with cellular data, but as far as wifi goes... It shouldn't be a problem. Could even present a warning on the recipient's end that the file will require wifi to download if need be. iOS can do it natively, third party apps for both iOS and Android can do it. While it's above my head, I can't imagine it's above theirs. Just seems lazy. Which is a shame really. This device is orders of magnitude more powerful than my 6s Plus. It's got a better camera, a beefier battery, better specs, a snappier operating system, feels better in hand, higher standard of manufacturing... It's a shame for something so basic to keep it under.
Interesting post though, I hadn't researched all the other manufacturers. I had no idea that this was a common issue across Android devices. I was thinking it was just Samsung.
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I understand that they have bandwidth restrictions too but it seems to be a problem that could have been resolved by now. I had no issues sending MMS messages with my iPhone, and haven't had since the very early versions. Even sending them to my friends or family who use Android, it was a pretty painless affair and the quality was fine (not as good between iOS and Android as it was iOS to iOS, but it was fine). If Apple can do it (still on AT&T) then why can't Samsung sort it out? Perhaps make it necessary with cellular data, but as far as wifi goes... It shouldn't be a problem. Could even present a warning on the recipient's end that the file will require wifi to download if need be. iOS can do it natively, third party apps for both iOS and Android can do it. While it's above my head, I can't imagine it's above theirs. Just seems lazy. Which is a shame really. This device is orders of magnitude more powerful than my 6s Plus. It's got a better camera, a beefier battery, better specs, a snappier operating system, feels better in hand, higher standard of manufacturing... It's a shame for something so basic to keep it under.
Interesting post though, I hadn't researched all the other manufacturers. I had no idea that this was a common issue across Android devices. I was thinking it was just Samsung.
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Yes. It's Android in general. Even Android to Android, unless you're both using something like whatsapp or something. I have to tell family and friends whenever I swap from iOS to Android again to send videos to my FB messenger so they won't be all distorted. And yes seems like a simple fix and its hard for me to believe there hasn't been more outcry about it and something done about it. I agree with everything you said above, as in, make them wait for WiFi to download the message if need be. That would even be acceptable
It could be just like the whole bloatware thing. Apple has the power to refuse bloat from the cell companies. Android phone manufacturers don't seem to have that power. I think the carriers are most likely at fault.
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MMS by-definition uses cellular data. If you need to prove this to yourself you can turn off all data connections (wifi and mobile data - 3g/4g/edge/lte) and try to send an SMS and an MMS. The SMS can go through still, the MMS can not.
But, the MMS protocols define a number of points where content may be transformed from the original.
The short version is that content goes from source handset to a server (MMMC), and from that server potentially hopped to other servers, until it finally goes from the delivery server to the target handset. To my light reading it's possible that the content is transformed at any/all of these stages. How to avoid needless quality reduction is a question of how to originally encode the content and how the servers are configured to react to specific messaging user agents.
I would not at all be surprised that Apple has gone to aggressive lengths to ensure that the various MMMC are configure to integrate nicely with Apple iOS MMS client. Similarly, I would hope that Google has the base messaging software similarly tuned, but would not be surprised that they haven't. I would be significantly impressed if ANY 3rd party Android MMS client had worked with the telcos to ensure strong media compatibility. That seems like a ton of work that just isn't going to happen outside of a large corporate structure. Telcos, at least US ones, don't seem to like to Play Nice in that way, for no profit. This is all personal speculation of course.
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It could be just like the whole bloatware thing. Apple has the power to refuse bloat from the cell companies. Android phone manufacturers don't seem to have that power. I think the carriers are most likely at fault.
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Good point, but also on bloatware, sadly the detrimental stuff is put on by Samsung themselves. That's another problem, but again since it's so easy to get rid of it's tolerable.
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MMS by-definition uses cellular data. If you need to prove this to yourself you can turn off all data connections (wifi and mobile data - 3g/4g/edge/lte) and try to send an SMS and an MMS. The SMS can go through still, the MMS can not.
But, the MMS protocols define a number of points where content may be transformed from the original.
The short version is that content goes from source handset to a server (MMMC), and from that server potentially hopped to other servers, until it finally goes from the delivery server to the target handset. To my light reading it's possible that the content is transformed at any/all of these stages. How to avoid needless quality reduction is a question of how to originally encode the content and how the servers are configured to react to specific messaging user agents.
I would not at all be surprised that Apple has gone to aggressive lengths to ensure that the various MMMC are configure to integrate nicely with Apple iOS MMS client. Similarly, I would hope that Google has the base messaging software similarly tuned, but would not be surprised that they haven't. I would be significantly impressed if ANY 3rd party Android MMS client had worked with the telcos to ensure strong media compatibility. That seems like a ton of work that just isn't going to happen outside of a large corporate structure. Telcos, at least US ones, don't seem to like to Play Nice in that way, for no profit. This is all personal speculation of course.
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Good information! Thanks for providing it. It was just a shock. Somehow when sending from iOS it just doesn't lose the quality like that. It'll still look brilliant even if played on a 1080 TV. I realize Apple (for some reason) has far more clout with companies and are in a position to demand whatever they like really for any reason or no reason at all... but I wish the same was true of Android devices/manufacturers/Google. I'll have to research it all because I'm very curious how it works. I mean granted you can still email stuff (unless it goes over 25MB apparently), you can still use third party apps or hosting services - it just seems a little unnecessary.
At the end of the day, it's a great phone and I love it. I'll get used to all that stuff I'm sure.
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MMS by-definition uses cellular data. If you need to prove this to yourself you can turn off all data connections (wifi and mobile data - 3g/4g/edge/lte) and try to send an SMS and an MMS. The SMS can go through still, the MMS can not.
But, the MMS protocols define a number of points where content may be transformed from the original.
The short version is that content goes from source handset to a server (MMMC), and from that server potentially hopped to other servers, until it finally goes from the delivery server to the target handset. To my light reading it's possible that the content is transformed at any/all of these stages. How to avoid needless quality reduction is a question of how to originally encode the content and how the servers are configured to react to specific messaging user agents.
I would not at all be surprised that Apple has gone to aggressive lengths to ensure that the various MMMC are configure to integrate nicely with Apple iOS MMS client. Similarly, I would hope that Google has the base messaging software similarly tuned, but would not be surprised that they haven't. I would be significantly impressed if ANY 3rd party Android MMS client had worked with the telcos to ensure strong media compatibility. That seems like a ton of work that just isn't going to happen outside of a large corporate structure. Telcos, at least US ones, don't seem to like to Play Nice in that way, for no profit. This is all personal speculation of course.
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iOS sends just as poor quality photos and videos as Android over MMS. The only reason sending photos and videos from iPhone to iPhone looks good is because it doesn't use MMS at all, but iMessage. To test this for yourself, disable iMessage on an iPhone and send a video. You'll barely be able to make it out. It will look just like videos sent over MMS from Android. The problem is not with Android, but with MMS itself. It's old technology and it doesn't matter which operating system you use, it's going to suck. There is an updated MMS standard that would allow for high quality photos and videos to be sent, but I don't think any carriers have implemented it yet. It's up to them.
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iOS sends just as poor quality photos and videos as Android over MMS. The only reason sending photos and videos from iPhone to iPhone looks good is because it doesn't use MMS at all, but iMessage.
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I held that theory privately, but since I don't use an iPhone any more I could not test/verify myself.
I seem to recall there are Android SMS apps which can route MMS content via a proprietary cloud service, but you would lose compatibility with any peer device not using the same service, for the same reason iMessage has its use constraints.
It's probably just easier to convince your friends to use WhatsApp or Hangouts though.
When my parents send me videos over MMS from iphones they are unwatchable.
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On a side note, when I want to send videos to people, I upload them to youtube and then send a link.
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iOS sends just as poor quality photos and videos as Android over MMS. The only reason sending photos and videos from iPhone to iPhone looks good is because it doesn't use MMS at all, but iMessage. To test this for yourself, disable iMessage on an iPhone and send a video. You'll barely be able to make it out. It will look just like videos sent over MMS from Android. The problem is not with Android, but with MMS itself. It's old technology and it doesn't matter which operating system you use, it's going to suck. There is an updated MMS standard that would allow for high quality photos and videos to be sent, but I don't think any carriers have implemented it yet. It's up to them.
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Strange. Disabling iMessage and sending still results in perfectly fine media here. From my 6s Plus to my S7 Edge. However sending the same video from my S7 to my iPhone results in an unwatchable video. I'll have to play with it, maybe try some larger videos later.
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My Places
Hate to break the iPhone-Android MMS conversation that's been going, but I noticed one change in the update (AT&T SM-G935A) that really set me off.
Has anyone else noticed that their "My Places" Edge Panel has been removed? I used it ALL the time, it was a super helpful way to shortcut to my favorite apps depending on where I am at the time. The option for "My Places" is NOWHERE to be found in the settings or the Edge Panel menu anymore after the update, I hope this is temporary. I agree, I bought this phone for the camera, as well as the Ingress Protection rating (IP-68) for water resistance and a few other reasons.
EDIT: Somehow the application was disabled after the update, all is well and working now.
My Places is still on mine, no problems, SM-G935A on APF2
How does it compare to imessage? Also, is it using google server or your carriers server?Im trying to better understand it......bout to pull the trigger and order from samsung the s8, come back to android for a while
Im trying to understand also what Google Messages (RCS and carrier dependent) offers vs the Samsung app.
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Im trying to understand also what Google Messages (RCS and carrier dependent) offers vs the Samsung app.
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very little information on it as of yet...Im just now ordering through samsung,and to be honest the s8 is the only phone up till now that made me want to rejoin the android side....All jokes aside imessege is the ****....Google needs to make sure android message catch up fast....I know apple uses its on servers not for sure on android message just yet
Wow, feels like forever since I've posted on XDA... Good to be back.
Here's the thing, Android Messages is the default Google SMS/MMS client that has the potential fur RCS delivery depending on the carrier you are on. I doubt we see it ever get anything near iMessage capabilities. You're more likely to see those capabilities pop up in Allo, if Google ever stops messing around with sticker packs and adds SMS functionality in. It's been reportedly coming for almost a year now (well since it released), so don't hold your breath too much.