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Onboard storage for the G1 vs the Magic

I know that one of the main gripes about the G1 is the storage space for apps. How does the storage compare to other devices? Magic, I7500?

How about next time you do your own research, eh?
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/specification.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/dream/specification.html

lbcoder said:
How about next time you do your own research, eh?
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/specification.html
http://www.htc.com/www/product/dream/specification.html
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i guess my question is: RAM or ROM: which is used for storing apps?

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rude posting....read the rules before you post again.
this is your only warning

lbcoder could have been more polite but he is right. xda-developers is not the place to ask questions that a tiny bit of research would have answered. Do research for yourself before posting or go somewhere else.
ROM is used for storage, RAM for running.

Of these three, the Samsung Galaxy I7500 has the most memory

No WM7 for the HD2 - What a shame

Just been reading that Microsoft have confirmed that the hardware spec for the HD2 does not meet the req for WM7.
"Joe Belfiore just told us that the HD2 is "not compliant with the Windows Phone 7 Series hardware specifications," which should end any of the lingering doubt that's clouded this issue since MWC"
I'm sure some of the smart folks here will change that though

Yay! Another WM7 on HD2 thread

OP, did you not see the thread for this very topic a few threads down from the top of the page?
Seriously, who gives a flying f*** about WM7?? It looks horrid!!

eddyos said:
seriously, who gives a flying f*** about wm7?? It looks horrid!!
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+1 .

Post hunters!!!
Can some mod delete this thread pls? Thank you.

oh, did not see that. And I do not care for the UI on my phone. Makes no diff to me what it looks like. hd2 is a great phone, software for it is crap, I think win7 will change this.
My opinion of course.
BUMP

Mikulec said:
Post hunters!!!
Can some mod delete this thread pls? Thank you.
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post hunter.... i have 56 (at time of writing) posts and I joined in 2008
So I think you might have been slightly mistaken. There was no need for your post at all so maybe you bumping your posts up?

tonycosta said:
post hunter.... i have 56 (at time of writing) posts and I joined in 2008
So I think you might have been slightly mistaken. There was no need for your post at all so maybe you bumping your posts up?
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That was not meant for you, and the cute little face at the and of my sentence meant that I was only joking.

Thats why i put a lil cute face tooo!
bumpety bump bump!

Hosting Offer for Devs-Roms

I know some of you use free upload services that are sometimes slow and make end users wait to download. I have my own domains and use a hosting package for my little website that has 150 GB of space and unlimited traffic allowed. I can set up a subdomain and ftp account for devs to use in exchange for a donate button if anyone wants to put in towards my hosting fees. Nothing required just an offer for the community.

I'm not a DEV, just a stupid user. (and i do mean stupid), but I wanted to thank you for such a generous offer. That is really cool of you, dude.

Not a problem. Just went to download and was annoyed by one of those pay or wait to download sites and thought wait a second...lol

sndtubes said:
I'm not a DEV, just a stupid user. (and i do mean stupid), but I wanted to thank you for such a generous offer. That is really cool of you, dude.
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Ahh yes. That makes us brothers. I'm no dev but rather a very dangerous ppc pda owner. Completely moronic and stupid as they get. I usually have to read instruction 10 times on how to install apk files. So stupid I am. Worse than noobs. I once thought ppc stood for "pay per contract". But thxs for the offer.

Seriously thanks for the offer that is very nice of you but this really doesn't belong here. This belongs in the general section!
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smoothone said:
Seriously thanks for the offer that is very nice of you but this really doesn't belong here. This belongs in the general section!
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Pwn3d!
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smoothone said:
Seriously thanks for the offer that is very nice of you but this really doesn't belong here. This belongs in the general section!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
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it seems like its getting more attention here even though it shouldn't be here

brian2220 said:
it seems like its getting more attention here even though it shouldn't be here
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I can only speak for myself but I frequent the General section a lot. I haven't given much input there but I do frequent it as there are really some decent topics being discussed. I have read other threads here were the OP says "well if I had posted in General then no one would see it". I disagree! Anyways I mean its easy to get things seen or heard, I mean cmon you just have to use your head a little tiny bit. For example if this was my thread. I would have posted it in the General section. Then I would have PMed the less than ten devs and themers we have in the Epic forums and told them to check out my thread. Then I would put the info in my sig. Maybe bold letters or colors. Its really not that difficult. Putting it here in the wrong section just promotes more incorrectly posted threads thus congesting the DEV section. The OPs intentions are good and I compliment him but he still needs to know where it belongs.

I'd prefer having threads posted in the wrong section to having to read more smoothone drivel. Every single friggin thread this guy is in there. Painful.
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You do realize that most of these ROMs are 150mb or so in size? That means that only 1000 downloads and you're bandwidth for the month would be gone...and trust me, that will happen pretty quickly.
I'm also going to guess that since you've just got a small virtual hosting account and not a dedicated server, that you will have a pay additional charges per gig of transfer used over your 150 gig.
There's a reason why these files get posted to the free file hosting services
smoothone said:
Here's one for you. Why don't you stfu with your pointless posts. **** you if everyone wants to posts useless bull**** then I think ill join them. I thanked the OP and mentioned where the thread belongs. It is not development and doesn't belong here period. If you can post bull**** then I can mini mod so **** off! By the way ill do as I please. Your not my wife and you don't pay my bills. Stop getting your panties in a twist.w
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Wow dude, is that your Dad's photo in your avatar...because you sound like you're about 12 years old. You've really got a stick up your ass if you're taking a smartphone message board this seriously. Go crack yourself a beer or take a nice big hit from your bong.
Personally, since he was making an offer to developers...this seems like a reasonable place for the thread. But what do I know, it's not my site and I'm not a mod. So guess what? I just don't worry about it. Maybe you should try the same.

mistabusta said:
You do realize that most of these ROMs are 150mb or so in size? That means that only 1000 downloads and you're bandwidth for the month would be gone...and trust me, that will happen pretty quickly.
I'm also going to guess that since you've just got a small virtual hosting account and not a dedicated server, that you will have a pay additional charges per gig of transfer used over your 150 gig.
There's a reason why these files get posted to the free file hosting services
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I believe they have 150 gigs of space and unlimited transfer. If anything I'd be concerned that the host would start throttling bandwidth... making for very slow download speeds. Not like the free file hosting services are fast tho...
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Definitely correctly posted in the development forum. He wasn't offering free web hosting for anyone, just devs who have a rom they need a spot for.
And nice offer. If I had a rom to host I would be most appreciative.
By the way, there is a report post button that I have seen repeatedly mentioned by mods. That is the proper way to deal with a post you feel is in the incorrect place. You know how I know this? Because it exists...

Really awesome of you man. Thanks for giving back to the community.

Yeah, this isn't Dev per se, but it's not like his post was "Does anyone know when Froyo is coming out?"
This is at the very least borderline, IMO. He was contributing something which will aid in the development process.

mistabusta said:
You do realize that most of these ROMs are 150mb or so in size? That means that only 1000 downloads and you're bandwidth for the month would be gone...and trust me, that will happen pretty quickly.
I'm also going to guess that since you've just got a small virtual hosting account and not a dedicated server, that you will have a pay additional charges per gig of transfer used over your 150 gig.
There's a reason why these files get posted to the free file hosting services
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My storage is 150GB. My transfer is unlimited It's a 1&1 linux hosting package.

To add my own experience to this...
I am hosting the Bonsai rom on my server, and while I expected it would use quite a bit of my bandwidth, I never expected that it would use around 100GB in 2 days.
I had to request that some mirrors be included to offset the bandwidth a bit (I only have 200GB a month BW). My Webalizer is showing 1574 hits for Bonsai v2.0.0.
It's a good thing you have unlimited BW, but I'm guessing that the download speeds will be throttled.
I mean, for $7 a month, I wouldn't expect they will let you rape their servers (bandwidth is expensive you know).
=]

nubecoder said:
To add my own experience to this...
I am hosting the Bonsai rom on my server, and while I expected it would use quite a bit of my bandwidth, I never expected that it would use around 100GB in 2 days.
I had to request that some mirrors be included to offset the bandwidth a bit (I only have 200GB a month BW). My Webalizer is showing 1574 hits for Bonsai v2.0.0.
It's a good thing you have unlimited BW, but I'm guessing that the download speeds will be throttled.
I mean, for $7 a month, I wouldn't expect they will let you rape their servers (bandwidth is expensive you know).
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ah hell let the rape begin!!!!
seriously i think its a great idea and if i ever get proficient enough to make my own ROM id be all about this idea, and as a end user of your guys awesome work it would be nice to not have to jump through the dumb wait 500 bajillion sec before you can start stuff.....

misfit343 said:
it would be nice to not have to jump through the dumb wait 500 bajillion sec before you can start stuff.....
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That's why we chose dropbox as the mirrors for Bonsai.

nubecoder said:
That's why we chose dropbox as the mirrors for Bonsai.
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and a uber hi five for that!

nubecoder said:
That's why we chose dropbox as the mirrors for Bonsai.
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Free or pro account.

Galaxy S Gingerbread rolling out in Europe

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-now-rolling-out-across-europe/
Looks like the i9000 is actually getting that 2.3 update. Maybe some other SGS models will start seeing it, I'd say everyone but us will get a glimpse.

Wrong section.
But yeah, at least the gs family looks like it will all get gingerbread.

Usually if its pertaining to Froyo/GB people don't mind seeing it in here. Hell, most people only view this subforum of the Fascinate and not general or any others. But you're right.
I feel like the Epic and Vibrant will get it in a few months, and then 25 years later Captivate, Mesmerize, Fascinate.

Syn Ack said:
Usually if its pertaining to Froyo/GB people don't mind seeing it in here. Hell, most people only view this subforum of the Fascinate and not general or any others. But you're right.
I feel like the Epic and Vibrant will get it in a few months, and then 25 years later Captivate, Mesmerize, Fascinate.
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Yeah sounds about right... the rest of the community will be on android zinger 20.3.8. (Zinger is the only desert i can thnk if that starts with Z lol)But we will get GB I'm sure .
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Wow. And it turns out, Samsung is the first to get GB on a non-Nexus phone. The irony....

GoogleAndroid said:
Wow. And it turns out, Samsung is the first to get GB on a non-Nexus phone. The irony....
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Wrong..droid x got the ota earlier this week
And yes this is in the wrong section its not a development release or think tank post or something
Its not that hard to follow forum rules

nitsuj17 said:
Wrong..droid x got the ota earlier this week
And yes this is in the wrong section its not a development release or think tank post or something
Its not that hard to follow forum rules
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Ohhh yeahhh. I haven't heard anything about that since DL posted an article though. Well, close enough, it's still very ironic.

nitsuj17 said:
Wrong..droid x got the ota earlier this week
And yes this is in the wrong section its not a development release or think tank post or something
Its not that hard to follow forum rules
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Its not harming anyone and this has been done many times before. You just can't leave things alone can you?

Here we go again. Another thread that's gonna get trashed with useless back and forth nonsense
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Syn Ack said:
Its not harming anyone
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No, it isn't harming anyone, but it is cluttering this board. Nitsuj, is right, follow the rules, it's not that hard.
blackmamba0730 said:
Here we go again. Another thread that's gonna get trashed with useless back and forth nonsense
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It wouldn't have to be that way, if people would have a little consideration, and follow the rules. Personally, I don't want to see this crap in here, when I'm looking for files.

spotmark said:
No, it isn't harming anyone, but it is cluttering this board. Nitsuj, is right, follow the rules, it's not that hard.
It wouldn't have to be that way, if people would have a little consideration, and follow the rules. Personally, I don't want to see this crap in here, when I'm looking for files.
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You're right, but nothing in the general section EVER gets viewed at or talked about. Everyone has their browser bookmarks set to development.

So it's all about page views then?

Syn Ack said:
You're right, but nothing in the general section EVER gets viewed at or talked about. Everyone has their browser bookmarks set to development.
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I have my bookmark set to the main page, so I can decide which board I want to look at, and I frequently visit the general board. By the way you're talking, you realize you shouldn't have posted here, but did it anyway. What makes you above the rules? It's called courtesy, and everyone should try it.

Kevin Gossett said:
So it's all about page views then?
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Nope, I'm just trying to spread the good news. Thought people would be interested. Decided I would put it in the "Wall Street Journal" as opposed to a "local smalltown newspaper".

GoogleAndroid said:
Ohhh yeahhh. I haven't heard anything about that since DL posted an article though. Well, close enough, it's still very ironic.
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I don't see how it'd be ironic if Samsung is first.
Google worked with them to release Gingerbread on some hardware that was only slightly different from the rest of their phones... They had an experience, resource, and time advantage over every other carrier... and yet they failed.
That's ironic. Samsung had every advantage, and yet couldn't even freaking get Gingerbread out on their flagship product before someone else. Seems like more motivation to me to avoid any future Samsung products.
And yeah, where to post things seems pretty obvious to me: Any discussion thread, where we're just talking about various random things go in General, questions go in Q&A, and actual releases (or things closely related to development... random questions about a ROM wouldn't warrant a new thread) go in Development. Posting things in the wrong section just to get more eyes seems fairly silly to me... if people aren't reading General, it's probably because they aren't interested in those things, probably only wanting actual ROMs/kernels/etc. Then again, making any comment on this topic seems to be a good way to get people to just flame you.

Syn Ack said:
Its not harming anyone and this has been done many times before. You just can't leave things alone can you?
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I also own a dx and i havent got the update. I keep hearing about this alleged update. So in my view hes not wrong
Used my fascinating voodoo powers

KitsuneKnight said:
I don't see how it'd be ironic if Samsung is first.
Google worked with them to release Gingerbread on some hardware that was only slightly different from the rest of their phones... They had an experience, resource, and time advantage over every other carrier... and yet they failed.
That's ironic. Samsung had every advantage, and yet couldn't even freaking get Gingerbread out on their flagship product before someone else. Seems like more motivation to me to avoid any future Samsung products.
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And now supposedly LG is working with Google for the Nexus 3 which will likely have the quadcore Tegra 3.

KitsuneKnight said:
I don't see how it'd be ironic if Samsung is first.
Google worked with them to release Gingerbread on some hardware that was only slightly different from the rest of their phones... They had an experience, resource, and time advantage over every other carrier... and yet they failed.
That's ironic. Samsung had every advantage, and yet couldn't even freaking get Gingerbread out on their flagship product before someone else. Seems like more motivation to me to avoid any future Samsung products.
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The software on the Nexus S is all Google's....

Syn Ack said:
Its not harming anyone and this has been done many times before. You just can't leave things alone can you?
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The rules are the rules...its not me being a ****...this is in no way shape or form development....and belongs in general
Its not up to you to decide that just because more people go here that "news" should also be in here as well
The rules are the same for everyone..otherwise development sections would be even more cluttered and difficult to navigate than they already are

[Rom] [Rom] [[Kernel] [Mod] [Rom] [This thread is gonna get moved, nice goin.] [Rom] [Kernel] [Ref] [Rom] [Kenel]
good day.

how much ram?

So How much RMA after a reboot do you have available?
I thought it would be awesome to have 3gb ram but really I don't find it to be different from 2gb..
on my note 2 on a cold boot it would start up at 580MB ram... on my note 3 it starts up at 1.25
Really the increase in ram just made them load up more stuff on boot and background which is the same as 2gb ram
total available is 2.38GB
Where is the rest ?

So you did not see the "DO NOT POST QUESTIONS HERE" Sticky?
Or these threads?
Note 3 only show 2.38G Ram? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465060
2.38GB RAM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461099

First of all you shouldn't put any questions in here, read the stickies man.
And second of all it has been discussed many times that the system saves .70 gigs in the s800 version and .34 gigs in the Exynos version. What Samsung thinks is necessary for the phone to work as smooth as it does. But even with four app running between multiwindow and pen window, it doesn't use all the ram.
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easy cowboys no need to get your panties all twisted up.. i am sure a mod can move it.

The fact that a mod can move it is entirely irrelevant.
The rules are there so the mods can do what they're meant to do, as opposed to wasting their time on people who can't bloody look beyond their own selfimportance.
This will be locked, you can find your answers in the threads about this very subject I linked earlier.
Use the Search function next time.
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I am sorry to ask are you on your period..
it is a forum.. on online discussion forum .. I missed the stickie.
And that stickie is fairly new... it wasn't here before..
So instead of wasting your time replying to this thread why even bother? you need to get your ego in check .. there is no need to be an arse.. and if it bothers you so much
it could of simply been avoided by NOT REPLYING. easy as 1 2 3.. don't you think? I think so..

habs101 said:
I am sorry to ask are you on your period..
it is a forum.. on online discussion forum .. I missed the stickie.
And that stickie is fairly new... it wasn't here before..
So instead of wasting your time replying to this thread why even bother? you need to get your ego in check .. there is no need to be an arse.. and if it bothers you so much
it could of simply been avoided by NOT REPLYING. easy as 1 2 3.. don't you think? I think so..
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Man up, apologize, and just read the provided links. Whining and justifying yourself is the sign of {fill in the blank}

dawheat said:
Man up, apologize, and just read the provided links. Whining and justifying yourself is the sign of {fill in the blank}
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No need to justify myself white knight..
I did apologize by not reading the stickies.. since it is fairly new I knew of the other one and didnt check..
That is the apology that I missed it.. I do not say sorry to people that show attitude on an online forum.
I could theoritically redo this thread and not ask a question but compare two note 3's snapdragons that after restart show two significant ram usage with the same apps disabled.

a tad more than 800mb

my note 3 do always show 90% RAM while I was surfing chrome, facebook & Gmail. WTF!

jackdao said:
my note 3 do always show 90% RAM while I was surfing chrome, facebook & Gmail. WTF!
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Free RAM is wasted RAM.
This article is a couple of years old now, but the advice it gives is still relevant today.
http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Regards,
Dave
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habs101 said:
I am sorry to ask are you on your period..
it is a forum.. on online discussion forum .. I missed the stickie.
And that stickie is fairly new... it wasn't here before..
So instead of wasting your time replying to this thread why even bother? you need to get your ego in check .. there is no need to be an arse.. and if it bothers you so much
it could of simply been avoided by NOT REPLYING. easy as 1 2 3.. don't you think? I think so..
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Seriously mate? That's your brilliant comeback?
Oh, I see, you must be below 14 to use such a highschool response.
For someone who has been here since 2007, you know very little about the rules and the attitude people have towards members who break those rules. You're getting off mild, these threads and their starters usually get trolled to death.
Be a man for a change and stuff that childish ego back in your pants.

ShadowLea said:
Seriously mate? That's your brilliant comeback?
Oh, I see, you must be below 14 to use such a highschool response.
For someone who has been here since 2007, you know very little about the rules and the attitude people have towards members who break those rules. You're getting off mild, these threads and their starters usually get trolled to death.
Be a man for a change and stuff that childish ego back in your pants.
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the only person with a god complex is you. you come here thinking you run the place .
you are trolling in a thread with nothing good to say.
you have a choice not to answer and not to reply, you did neither ..
" you are getting off easy " seriously ? is this prison com on. it is the internet .. relax and take a chill pill now move along.