Nice review.
http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/#disqus_threadhttp://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/#disqus_thread
One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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same could be said about the iphone
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One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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AT&T hasn't finished the enhanced backhaul to most of the network and it won't be ready to go till the end of March at the earliest. Seems like something Engadget should have mentioned.
It's a pretty solid review, I think, but now I'm wondering about bloatware. CNET's review said this:
Of course, you've also got your obligatory AT&T services--AT&T Navigator, AT&T FamilyMap, and AT&T U-Verse Live TV--on there, but for once, you can actually uninstall any of these apps if you wish.
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but Engadget disagrees:
We're a little disappointed by the fact that Motorola and AT&T are loading up the Atrix with a considerable amount of bloatware, and there's nothing you can really do about it. Vlingo, a handful of AT&T apps, Blockbuster, and a smattering of other programs all ship on the handset with no option to delete them.
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Which is it? Rooting will take care of bloat, but it would be nice if we could get rid of it before rooting is available.
ETA: The review was updated with this:
Update: Some of the pre-installed apps can be deleted, but not all.
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Huh.
again, AT&T hasn't finished the backhaul necessary. Also, I always get lower speed tests with the Speedtest.net app than I do with XtremeLabs app. When I get my phone, I'll test the speeds, should be about 2200-3500 in Stl. if it's like the N1. That's WITHOUT the '4G'
They tested it against the iphone and the iphone beat it hands down.
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The odd thing is that if you compare the device against the iPhone 4 on AT&T's network -- tested in exactly the same locations -- you see much different results. On the iPhone, data speeds were consistently in the 2 or 3 Mbps range for downloads, and hovering around 1 Mbps for uploads."
That is a bowl of suck right there.
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AT&T hasn't finished the enhanced backhaul to most of the network and it won't be ready to go till the end of March at the earliest. Seems like something Engadget should have mentioned.
It's a solid review all around, I think, but now I'm wondering about bloatware. CNET's review said this:
but Engadget disagrees:
Which is it? Rooting will take care of bloat, but it would be nice if we could get rid of it before rooting is available.
ETA: The review was updated with this:
Huh.
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check the article again, there's an update.
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One of the biggest deals they found in that review is the speed.
The Atrix is not running any where near 4g more like crappy 3g at best.
What is the use of the phone with all that power if its network connection is crap?
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I've heard that 4G services will be launching in the coming months on AT&T.
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AT&T hasn't finished the enhanced backhaul to most of the network and it won't be ready to go till the end of March at the earliest. Seems like something Engadget should have mentioned.
It's a solid review all around, I think, but now I'm wondering about bloatware. CNET's review said this:
but Engadget disagrees:
Which is it? Rooting will take care of bloat, but it would be nice if we could get rid of it before rooting is available.
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I was curious about this, too. Perhaps Joshua Topolsky doesn't know about "Manage Apps >> uninstall" because he isn't a regular Android user? I doubt the CNET guy would have said that if it weren't possible.
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They tested it against the iphone and the iphone beat it hands down.
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The odd thing is that if you compare the device against the iPhone 4 on AT&T's network -- tested in exactly the same locations -- you see much different results. On the iPhone, data speeds were consistently in the 2 or 3 Mbps range for downloads, and hovering around 1 Mbps for uploads."
That is a bowl of suck right there.
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They are testing in New York. AT&T in New York sucks. This is not news. It will probably be much better as long as you don't live there.
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I was curious about this, too. Perhaps Joshua Topolsky doesn't know about "Manage Apps >> uninstall" because he isn't a regular Android user? I doubt the CNET guy would have said that if it weren't possible.
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so now all we need is an itemized list. Ha. Must say I'm WTFing about that Blockbuster app. I hope that's one of the apps that can be uninstalled out of the box.
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so now all we need is an itemized list. Ha. Must say I'm WTFing about that Blockbuster app. I hope that's one of the apps that can be uninstalled out of the box.
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On the droid x I have I could only uninstall updates, not delete it (without root). Motorola has a deal with Blockbuster, so they put it on all their phones.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if z4root worked right out of the box. It's already designed to work on Motorola phones running 2.2.1, so it probably will work for this too. Once that's done, TiBu will remove everything extra anyway.
On the battery side, the Atrix 4G packs an impressive 1930mAh battery inside, and even though Android is data intensive, we found ourselves squeezing more than 24 hours out of the device on a single charge with fairly heavy use. You can probably get more time out of the device if you avoid calls when possible and keep your brightness settings in check, but we were pleasantly surprised by the performance we saw.
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This is excellent news!
The battery was the one thing I was really concerned about. I am very pleased to see this working so well. Maybe there is hope for the Atrix after all...
Oh and on a side note:
That camera looks awful!
Seriously you idiots on XDA who gives a **** on about the bloatware one quick flash and you will be... oh wait its completely locked. FU MOTO AT&T go **** yourselves. Im waiting for a PYrimid scheme and some qualcomm 2x at Tmobile. Im sure ill be missed at Att but ill be sure to spread the already ****ty word that has been plaguing them as well.
No comment on the gps? That's like my main concern now since my captivate has a pretty crappy gps lol
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Seriously you idiots on XDA who gives a **** on about the bloatware one quick flash and you will be... oh wait its completely locked. FU MOTO AT&T go **** yourselves. Im waiting for a PYrimid scheme and some qualcomm 2x at Tmobile. Im sure ill be missed at Att but ill be sure to spread the already ****ty word that has been plaguing them as well.
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You ok man?
lol, yeah, don't hold back or anything. This phone is sounding like a winner to me assuming it can be properly rooted and custom roms installed. I never had an interest in the docks anyways so the overall beatings they are taking in the reviews isn't a concern to me. Like engadget I love the concept but the laptop dock cannot replace a laptop as is making it a third wheel for me.
Well, all I wanted to see in that review was info on the bootloader, and... it's locked... Not really a surprise, but hey, I was holding onto hope. The fact that this phone won't be getting much dev support, and because it's all plastic, means I'll be crossing it off my list... My perfect Android device, has yet to surface.
doesn't the Droid X have custom roms? If so, couldn't there be custom ROMs on this phone as well?
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im pissed off, I have TP2 and desperate for a new phone. I was looking forward to the Atrix but not happy with att nor there unwillingness to make it easy for devs. Motoblur is a joke as well as froyo with this thing. Are you kidding me?
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im pissed off, I have TP2 and desperate for a new phone. I was looking forward to the Atrix but not happy with att nor there unwillingness to make it easy for devs. Motoblur is a joke as well as froyo with this thing. Are you kidding me?
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I am willing to bet that custom roms will start rolling out after about a month. I don't understand what the big deal is with bootloader, with it unlocked, we might see roms a few weeks sooner, but either way it will get done. I know it will get rooted within a week, that is a fact. Once it's rooted, feel free to ASOPify the phone however you like...
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This morning when I woke up to look at the time on my myTouch Slide I had a pop up saying there was a software update available so of course I downloaded it. After the download and install the phone rebooted and I received another pop up that said "Install complete. Thank you for choosing T-Mobile" does anyone know what the software update was for? I haven't noticed anything different.
Did you have the beta firmware or do you have the production firmware?
slide update
The update was the full release that will be on the phones for sale. Officially it was to improve performance and just the final build. Because it was the official final build you should now see more apps available in the market that are made for 2.1 and above.
FULL FLASH in your browser! That was a nice surprise that nobody mentioned...
nothing else major comes to mind. They may have added some htc sense widgets but Im not sure if I just missed them the first few days I had the phone..
mine didnt work
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This morning when I woke up to look at the time on my myTouch Slide I had a pop up saying there was a software update available so of course I downloaded it. After the download and install the phone rebooted and I received another pop up that said "Install complete. Thank you for choosing T-Mobile" does anyone know what the software update was for? I haven't noticed anything different.
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i recieved the same message and downloaded it but mine said install not succesfull. any one have any idea how i can get the update again?
TMO sent me a sdcard with production firmware a few days ago...does this mean I already have the update?
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The update was the full release that will be on the phones for sale. Officially it was to improve performance and just the final build. Because it was the official final build you should now see more apps available in the market that are made for 2.1 and above.
FULL FLASH in your browser! That was a nice surprise that nobody mentioned...
nothing else major comes to mind. They may have added some htc sense widgets but Im not sure if I just missed them the first few days I had the phone..
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Wait a minute...you've got the MyTouch Slide ahead of release? And it has Flash?! Way to go TMo. I know a bunch of people are underwhelmed by this phone because it's not a Snapdragon, but TMo is targeting this phone for the mainstream. If it runs smooth, I may just snap it up. But I'm curious about "Project Emerald."
who needs a snapdragon
My coworker has a Nexus and we run a lot of comparisons between my slide and his (n1). (we both work for Tmo)
-faster downloads according to speedtest.net app on MyTouch Slide
-better screen touch sensitivity on MyTouch Slide
-led camera flashligh apps for MyTouch Slide (only on Nexus if you root)
I personally feel the keyboard is pointless because swype and the android keyboard work so well... I would rather have a thinner phone.. but its still work buying. After a week or so I love the phone.
Camera quality is great! Not every photo will be the best because it is still a phone... but I have taken some really great quality photos.
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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A rooted phone is always faster than its stock counter-part, a stock G1 is much faster than a stock one...Even if both are on diff firmware.For ex donut roms for it pretty much superior in every way. A rooted MTS will be even faster, esp when various optimizations are applied to the stock ROM. A iPhone is fast but a jailbroken one is just better. Plus a rooted phone will allow you to really make your phone yours.
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TMO sent me a sdcard with production firmware a few days ago...does this mean I already have the update?
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nice my MM is keeping my update sd card from me! what size card did they send? 8gb?
froyo JIT benchmark
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A rooted phone is always faster than its stock counter-part, a stock G1 is much faster than a stock one...Even if both are on diff firmware.For ex donut roms for it pretty much superior in every way. A rooted MTS will be even faster, esp when various optimizations are applied to the stock ROM. A iPhone is fast but a jailbroken one is just better. Plus a rooted phone will allow you to really make your phone yours.
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I understand and have seen this hands on.. however.. how about all of the benchmark results with froyo and the new jit component.... they are blowing the doors off of previous roms, stock and modded i assume.. I havent read into this heavily so I hate to be missing something... but this was my point about why bother rooting when froyo should be achieving these peak speeds that were previously only achievable through rooting..
If a dev can beat froyos speeds, while providing full functionality and then some.. then sure I am game.. but perhaps android is finally reaching its full potential and maximizing its hardware.. and all of these developers can start spending their time on making better widgets! (one can dream)
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I. but perhaps android is finally reaching its full potential and maximizing its hardware.. (one can dream)
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i love android but i think it's far from reaching it's full potential. it will continue to amaze us and continue to make steve jobs cry inside.
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I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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Come on t-mo will block tethering... we didnt alow it before why would we now because of froyo, come on use your head... I could be wrong but think of it like this...
webconnects 24.99-49.99/monthly
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tethering FREE
-What do you think a provider will allow?
So root is very necessary every time when you buy a phone from a carrier... its their phone and.... root = your phone!
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this
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-What do you think a provider will allow?
So root is very necessary every time when you buy a phone from a carrier... its their phone and.... root = your phone!
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Blackberry and win mo phones ( HD 2) tether with t mobile and are not blocked... A very very low percentage of customers even understand what tethering is... So yes tmo would rather sell web connect... But no they do not currently block the phones they currently sell with tethering... Of course tech support will definitely not help you with it.
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I was told by two employees (one was a manager) that the MyTouch Slide would be the first phone that allowed tethering. The phone I looked at had easytether installed on it so that is why I asked.
They may just be saying that because easytether was on the market. Most of the rep's I have talked to have been a little loose on details with me (LIKE THE PRICE!!!).
That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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And you would be incorrect. Expect it with tethering and wifi hotspot feature intact in the very near future.
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That won't get froyo 2.2 for a long time. May be even a year
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tmobile has even said june 19 expect something big for the slide they wont say what it is but it seems like it will be froyo
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tmobile has even said june 19 expect something big for the slide they wont say what it is but it seems like it will be froyo
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I was thinking the same thing, but why would they open their stores at 8AM instead of 10AM for Froyo?
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My coworker has a Nexus and we run a lot of comparisons between my slide and his (n1). (we both work for Tmo)
I do not even see the point in rooting this phone with all the available features.. Froyo (android 2.2) will be available for this phone sometime this year which will add wireless tethering and hot spots..
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WAIT, a tmo employee openly confirming the slide WILL IN FACT be getting froyo? really? anyone else have trouble believing tmo is allowed to release this info?
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WAIT, a tmo employee openly confirming the slide WILL IN FACT be getting froyo? really? anyone else have trouble believing tmo is allowed to release this info?
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http://www.androidcentral.com/most-2010-htc-android-phones-will-get-froyo-2010
x Samsung Galaxy S GPS + other improvements for Samsung ATT Captivate are HERE! Today - next few weeks OTA notification will be sent to customers! 11 minutes ago ยท via HootSuite
Thanks for the support TMO!
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Doubt that because the still have no information about any of the update...
Android Central comments about the Captivate updates don't sound to impressive. issues with not installing and still GPS issues after the update?
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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its not only gps. The Update Suppose to Improve The Battery Life as Well.
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Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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WIndows 7 phone? LOL no thank you. i ll stick with my vibrant. i think the hardware in that phone is very advanced than what is in g2. we just need software updates that will fix the bugs.
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
tmobile is throwing Samsung under the bus, I got this back from a message I sent to Tmobiles facebook a bit ago..
Robert,
We understand your interest on updates Samsung is working on one and as soon as we have any more information on this we will communicate it.
.. notice they say that Samsung is working on one, I did ask about 2.2 though and not the gps fix.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
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Honestly, my biggest regret was leaving at&t. I left because I wasn't interested in an iphone, I noticed no good new WM apps were coming along, and I wanted a 3.5 mm headphone jack on my phone. The nexus filled all those needs so when it was released I jumped ship to t-mobile. I found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I still have no idea why people say T-Mobiles customer support is better than AT&T; from everything I've seen it isn't even close.
Someone else posted on here before about T-Mobiles BB getting upgraded to V.5 not too long ago.. they have 6 out or it's close to release. T-Mobile does lack in this "Software/Firmware" Update department. They have some decent phones but don't support them enough.
It's amazing, when the G1 came out, yes it was the first Android phone but updates rolled out pretty quick. I know it was stock "Vanilla" Android but updates were addressed in a timely manor. But now they have the My Touch, My Touch Slide and Cliq series and now the Galaxy S phone.
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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So what its perfectly ok for other Galaxy S phones that haven't been out as long as the Vibrant to be getting their updates, but not us? Honestly, I really think it has to do a lot with TMO and not Sammy. Luckily, I've rooted and running a custom ROM and Voodoo fix. I also know that doing that is not for everyone though.
The Captivate came out what like 3 days after the Vibrant? Maybe tmo and Samsung are waiting to see how the update goes on the Captivate. It wont matter anyways we could get it tomorrow and people will still complain that it's not 2.2 or their phone is still not fast enough or some other bullcrap.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Your joking right? First almost 2 1/2 months. Second the others all got a update as mentioned.
All other phones with 1ghz are running froyo, even a hd2 without android has it.lom
I vote we get /b/ to start ****. Maybe then we might get some movement from T-Mo and Samsung... just me? >.>
not that it will do anything to Tmobile but I've decided that whoever gets 2.2 on the Galaxy S device first is who I will be switching to. If its Tmobile then I won't be going anywhere, but if another carrier can get it out before Tmobile see ya.
Tmobile launched this device First int he US there is no reason they should not be the first to release the OS update even if it takes them till November
I do agree that they need to support their phones better. But at least TMO isn't forcing bing down our throats either.
I come from the Blackberry side of the fence and I remember when 5.0 devices were new last year it took forever for TMO to release an update for the 9700, and that original release was filled with bugs. I finally gave up on waiting for them and simply downloaded another carrier's release. Easy to do on that platform.
I like the Vibrant for the most part. Yes it has bugs; yes it's quality needs to be improved. Yes the GPS kind of sucks. But what other high-end phone out there doesn't have issues these days? I'm sure the G2 will have them as well.
So I got my Atrix a few days ago. With my Captivate (when I had one) I had to carry a spare battery with me cause when used a lot, like I do now, I was getting maybe 8 hours of use out of it. Well yesterday I charged my Atrix to 100% and unplugged it at 10:05am Pacific Standard time. I just checked the battery and 24 hours later its at 30%. This is with brightness set to medium, gps and data on, checking the internet through the day (mostly on 3G), letting my son look around on youtube for a few hours (on wifi) and just getting normal useage out of it, like phone calls, texts and emails.
I really like my Captivate, but there were a few things that really ruined the experience for me, namely the battery life. I can understand why people would want it because of how easy it is to do custom roms and such, but I think I just want a mostly stock phone, just rooted so I can have a little more control. This is the phone. My wife even liked it so we are ordering one for her.
Looks like I will be around these forums for a while as I always find good information here.
There are a lot of things about this phone that are impressive!
Yes... The phone is smoother than others I've used.
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This is, as I am terming it, on Bomb Diggity of a phone!
All they can do with it is improve it.
An amazing computing device. I'm trying to work on my hyperboles for this phone.
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I was more than just impressed when I got my Atrix. had bunch of smart phones in the past, LG, Nokia, Sony, Iphone. Symbian used to be the king of the hill, but after i got this last week i was truly impressed. 720p playback out of the box, connected straight to my Sammy HDTV in the living room, able to get into the webtop (netbook) mode via hdmi cable from a wireless keyboard/mice. It pretty much ran like a little computer but in a pocket-sized form factor. Just wait until they add the mkv native playback and unlock the 1080p mode. Keep in mind that we have one of the most advanced phone/computer in our hands, the hardware is there, just need the software updates to make it even better.
What surprised me more then anything is how much my wife likes the phone. This is her first smartphone and I convinced her to get an Atrix rather then an iPhone. She didn't like my captivate much, but has really been enjoying this phone, especially as a user of Facebook. That really shocked me.
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i agree, the atrix is a great phone. i was a bit apprehensive to order one, seeing as i live in australia (which means a pain in the butt if i had warranty issues etc.), and there were multiple threads on the forum with lots of issues such as random reboots, wifi not connecting, bad battery life, bad build quality etc.
i decided to take the plunge, and couldnt be happier. ive had to phone for about 5 days now, and havent had any problems yet (fingers crossed). i dont think think i would care if the devs unlocked the bootloader, because everything just works out of the box. only minor problem is the horrible upload speeds, but im sure an update from AT&T would fix it (if and when they release it).
I'd probably buy one if I were in the market for a new phone right now, but given that I have a Captivate, I just can't see the point. The screen does look nice, I played with one in the store, but I feel like all of the ROM options on the Captivate keep it ahead of the pack even though the hardware has been topped by the Atrix. Interestingly enough, the other two "4G" phones from AT&T have the same resolution as the Captivate, so no upgrade there.
What do you guys upload that can't wait to be around wifi?
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What do you guys upload that can't wait to be around wifi?
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Who knows. The uproar about HSUPA is unbelievable. The user experience is exactly the same. HSUPA is probably the last thing I could care about on a phone. I ended up with it by accident by putting a new ROM on my Captivate, and that feature changed my experience exactly 0%.
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What do you guys upload that can't wait to be around wifi?
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mms 10 char
justdrew said:
mms 10 char
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Which are limited to what....600k?
Pretty sure you don't notice the extra second.
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What do you guys upload that can't wait to be around wifi?
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Honestly, it seems like the popular thing to do right now. Nerds like to rage in hoards. I have the phone, love it. Haven't found myself being limited in any way by the low upload speed.
humjaba said:
Honestly, it seems like the popular thing to do right now. Nerds like to rage in hoards. I have the phone, love it. Haven't found myself being limited in any way by the low upload speed.
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I havent either. Like you said...people just like to be pissed off about something. I havent noticed it affecting my use of the phone.
By having a low upload speed, your web browsing experience will be slower.
Back,when I had the phone, I had a higher latency than what I do now with my N1.
Upload speeds are becoming just as important as download speeds; having one limited will ultimately slow you down.
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Which are limited to what....600k?
Pretty sure you don't notice the extra second.
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That... is kinda hypocritical for you to say right? Seeing as you have this phone for its speed and dual core.
Hmm....
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JasjarMan said:
What do you guys upload that can't wait to be around wifi?
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I pay for tethering and use it quite extensively while I travel for business. Going from a 1.5Mbit uplink to 300Kbit is pretty noticeable.
Often wifi is either unavailable, costs money to connect to, or in the case of many hotels substantially slower than tethering.
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That... is kinda hypocritical for you to say right? Seeing as you have this phone for its speed and dual core.
Hmm....
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Well, I presume you can switch back to working on something else during the "extended" wait.
Personally I agree that speeds should be uniform across all devices, but I don't think that the upload speed makes much of a difference in everyday use.
Looks like sprint is making gingerbread for the epic... I dont know if because this is a CDMA phone if this helps us at all. But it does give me hope that maybe, just maybe verizon will do the same!
http://www.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-gets-new-gingerbread-leak-android-233-and-ee03
One can only hope.
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this is of virtually no help to us.....they already had a gb leak previously which didnt help us...we are on our own with the exception of a few things here and there
nitsuj17 said:
this is of virtually no help to us.....they already had a gb leak previously which didnt help us...we are on our own with the exception of a few things here and there
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Thats too bad but here is to hoping that verizon decides to not take forever again.... Maybe the new 18 month upgrade plan from google IO can help out.
I suspect Verizon will be forced to do a 2.3 update with the recently divulged security flaw in 2.2.
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Jay Evans said:
I suspect Verizon will be forced to do a 2.3 update with the recently divulged security flaw in 2.2.
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Have a link to that I must have missed the story?
sfobrien said:
Have a link to that I must have missed the story?
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here ya go!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/17/99-of-android-handsets-vulnerable-to-account-credential-theft/
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here ya go!
http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/17/99-of-android-handsets-vulnerable-to-account-credential-theft/
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Has Verizon fixed the locally-exploitable issue with Android < 2.3.3 yet (you know, the one that ended up with Google pulling a bunch of apps from the market that were actively exploiting it)?
Nothing also prevents Verizon from backporting the fix, or simply ignoring it. It doesn't seem like it would be very easy to exploit (you have to perform a MITM attack on a token that's usable for 14 days? Sounds like a fairly small window of opportunity!).
As for the agreement to update devices for up to 18 months... I doubt it applies retroactively.
In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, Verizon sucks.
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As for the agreement to update devices for up to 18 months... I doubt it applies retroactively.
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I agree. I really wish though that google would pull their pants up and tell US carriers whats up. It's googles OS but it seems like the phone companies get to beat the hell out of it and google just gets to watch. It should be a little more take it or leave it, this is our baby kind of a deal I feel.
Though at this point that is just a fading dream.
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In case anyone hadn't yet noticed, Verizon sucks.
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True and False. I have had everything but Sprint and Verizon is the lesser of the demons for me. At&t is absolutely terrible I paid to get away from their horrible business model. Sure they don't update but their customer service and stability has never been matched.
The security vulnerability is common for any wifi device. The key is to not connect to insecure wifi networks.
Also the only the latest version of gb got the security update, not any and all versions of gb.
Seriously, froyo wasn't enough? Now we're crying about samsung leaked gb? It'll come in time. We already have two separate versions of CM7.
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True and False. I have had everything but Sprint and Verizon is the lesser of the demons for me. At&t is absolutely terrible I paid to get away from their horrible business model. Sure they don't update but their customer service and stability has never been matched.
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Well, yes, AT&T also sucks. Verizon has "The Network" (except when LTE crashes and 3G databases get corrupted -- fail!). AT&T has the iPhone. That's seriously all either one cares about or understands.
However, AT&T has the fortune of using hardware compatible with international unlocked models. "The Network" is, besides Verizon's main selling point, also another big way of locking us into their crappy inattention and bloat. I hate it, and I hate even more that AT&T will gobble up the most Android-sympathetic carrier and force us into bloated high-priced no-update duopoly.
I've never tried Sprint either, but it's ever more tempting.
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Well, yes, AT&T also sucks. Verizon has "The Network" (except when LTE crashes and 3G databases get corrupted -- fail!). AT&T has the iPhone. That's seriously all either one cares about or understands.
However, AT&T has the fortune of using hardware compatible with international unlocked models. "The Network" is, besides Verizon's main selling point, also another big way of locking us into their crappy inattention and bloat. I hate it, and I hate even more that AT&T will gobble up the most Android-sympathetic carrier and force us into bloated high-priced no-update duopoly.
I've never tried Sprint either, but it's ever more tempting.
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As someone who had tried all of the major 4, as well as someone who travels all over this country and canada. I have found verizon has the biggest and most stable network. Now, in full disclosure, my service when I am home 2 days a month sucks. But for someone who "needs" a nationwide network verizon is imho, the best.
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As long as there is a will there is a way. MITM are not as hard as you make it seem. I could easily come over to your wifi and make way with all your bank accounts. Wifi, bluetooth and even any GSM network are susceptible to getting attacked.
Yeah this leak is really stable guys; netfix works perfect also, and this isn't even the latest build!
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But this whole downgrade to being considered a "Low Activity Device" is kinda messing with me a little...
I kinda really don't like it, lol...
If there is anyone else with me, let's all email the Super Mods, and see if we can bring it back
Please,
Taylore
The sad thing is that there has been more activity in here the past month than there was before, and it then gets the downgrade
As much as I hate to agree with this, we are a low activity device. Other than the general chatter about upgrading to froyo, we have a couple of ROMs and kernels that haven't been updated in quite some time, a gingerbread theme and some Ticker tweaks. Compared to other devices that is low activity.
We would need to kick up the development to really justify getting it moved.
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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.
What does it mean to be downgraded? Can we still find all the dev stuff on our favorite sure?
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It just means that we have been moved... Which in theory would be no big deal if there wasn't a handful of people who have been trying to keep this board alive and just got there efforts thwarted.... -__-
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Yeah, i can see what you are talking about...
As soon as we get froyo, there is definitely going to be a lot more development, and then I guess we can try and negotiate with the super mods then.
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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.
I have no idea why Verizon hasn't pushed that update out. It's incredible that they could just let the Continuum people hang like that. I'm going to talk to my media relations contact (I'm a product journalist by trade) and see what they say off the record. I'm sure it will go something like this "No comment at this time".
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That's IF we get Froyo. It's been a couple months now, and we still haven't heard legitimate evidence that they are releasing froyo for us.
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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I like the sound of this!
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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Kind words but I'm still not getting my hopes up. I was just starting to get comfortable with the idea I was gonna be stuck with Eclair..
I'll stay silently hopeful.
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You'll get Froyo it just may not come from Verizon
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please be serious. if there is anything i can do to help, just ask. i really do like this phone, but the lack of 2.2 is a huge deal breaker. im going to try to get a different one unless i can be assured of froyo. if you provide it, i will be a very faithful follower
I activated this phone on a verizon pp before july 7 and so far I've kept my unlmtd data but I don't get upgrades....so I might have phone for awhile which means I don't care where the froyo comes from lol
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"Legacy & Low Activity Devices", Wow.
That's low. But I guess it's the sign of the times.
I purchased my Continuum in January and I'm so fed up with samsung. RSS feeds don't work at all. Very dissappointed. I've decided not to purchase a single samsung phone/tablet product in the future. Lots of other makers that I see updates happening. 2 of my kids have Fascinates and they love them but updates are really slow coming out.
If it wasn't for you guys working on it and making it better, I would have canned the phone. Thanks for all your efforts and I hope we'll get 2.2 soon.
Start posting again! Now that we have Froyo, it's time to kick things up again.
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I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?
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I've noticed this unlimited data plan loophole mentioned a few times. Does this mean that those of us who are grandfathered in with the old data plans have a way of getting out of our contracts due to this change? I activated my Continuum in March.
But now that we are seeing some Froyo action, I'm not as desperate to go in a different direction. The thought of speeding her up and de-bloating is pretty exciting. Also I love the ticker even though it's only like 10% useable for what I do. The ability to answer or ignore calls and see the time no matter what I'm doing is great. Yes I know any non-continuum phone could do the same with a pop-up window or whatever but that permanent little section of soft-controls is just so cool! Thought the real reason I like it is the unlimited possibilities for customization...which so far has been non-existent. Every day I look at that ticker and muse over it's possibilities...thinking how nice it would be if the little notifiers mapped to apps I actually use or how awesome it would be to pop some 1x1 widgets down there.... Is it irrational in Aug 2011 to still hope for things everyone dreamed of when this thing was released last November?
I held on to Palm for way too long too....Is being loyal to a gadget for what it should be a fools errand that will just leave me sad and bitter in the end?
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there is no loophole...verizon grandfathered in all smartphone users who had unlimited data (3g or 4g) for the near future (they can always change **** down the road if they want)
but for the time being u can upgrade on contract or activate new devices from 3g to 4g or 4g to 3g and keep ur same plan no restrictions (although 4g to 3g would burn ur 4g sim after 24 hours and ud need to get a new one)
Shouldnt all this activity and the Froyo Update bump us back up out of the low activity section? Just saying....
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