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Given up on waiting for root..

Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...

Do not feed the troll...

seriously?? I have more posts than you and I am far from that... your comment is stupid.

joey3002 said:
Well, I hate to say this but I have given up waiting for root as an early leak user. I feel I have the right to post this due to 1, helping wherever I could, 2, contacting paul to even get the ball rolling after jcase mentioned him 3, offered donation for a solution etc...
I love my eris but see all the neat things I am missing out on. When the evo comes out, I will be jumping from pageplus to sprint... i am sure that will be rooted and if not... im still better off.
Thank you to all who have tried their best.. I think this is one instance where the phone beat us. I am annoyed that we do not have root as it allows us to better use our own phone.
anyway, best of luck to all...
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I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.

Ok everyone can quit complaining about the 2.1 update! I just checked Verizon ERis Software Upgrade page and its announced that there is an update coming soon! I know theres no date but at least it is now finally up on their site. If you dont belive me check it out your self & for those who doubted it would ever come this just shows that paicence is a virtue.
support.vzw.com/information/droid_eris_upgrade
Check out both pdf files. The Benifits of Software link states all the updates for 2.1. Enough said?

Good riddance.

Whitepaint said:
I dont blame you homie.. If I had not managed to get a second eris after I jumped on the leakv1, I would have gone nuts watching all the badass ROMS and hacks get released and have no way to use them.
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exactly...
WalkingTaco said:
Good riddance.
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suck it... what have you contributed?

Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.

P.S. Don't be a bully.

There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.

Turnyface said:
Just short out the battery connection on the back of the phone with a small piece of aluminum foil, take it in to Verizon, explain how your phone just turned off and won't turn on and voila! You get a new phone the next day running stock 1.5, ready to be ROOTED!
That's what I did after installing the 2.1 leak and realized I couldn't get root. Let me tell you, my rooted Eris running Evil Eris v2.0 with the overclocked processor is far greater than my friends Moto Droid. I hope you make the right decision.
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It's not overclocked yet, it definitely doesnt do anything at the moment. And as far as shorting it out, I took mine into verizon complaining about the speakers all cutting out glitch and they didnt even look at the phone and swapped me out a new one in 10 minutes. It's not that hard really, just find someone in the store who looks like an idiot. All the smart people are in the back anyway.

Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..

or should I get a MOTO Droid or incredible but I still have my Eris with
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Marisa said:
There are always risks involved when upgrading a device, I learned that with the PSP and now other people are learning it with their Eris. Crying about it (in the wrong forum no less) is doing nothing to help.
A root will likely eventually be found, patience is the key. As soon as you just can't stand it anymore and upgrade/change device/etc you've potentially lost something forever.
One thing is for sure; I find it insulting that people feel they have a right to complain about being on leak, nobody held you down and forced you to flash anything.
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I second that ****!

Just Buy a Incredible Then Get Root Or Wait For It.

Cyostrife said:
Or You can not be a cheapskate and just Buy a new one..
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Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.

Even though I am kicking myself for not waiting a bit longer, I don't regret upgrading to any of the leaks. It gave me 2.1 months before everyone else. A little more patience never hurt anyone.

WalkingTaco said:
Not everyone has lots of money and buying a new eris outright is about 500 or so, used on ebay they go for over 300. speaking for myself I know I'd rather have the 3-500 to spend on bills and things then buying a new phone.
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Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.

Sheen160 said:
Seconded. But this thread is useless. If you're tired of waiting on 2.1 leak root then get a new phone, try and get a replacement or just sit there and use the phone like it was meant to be. There's nothing wrong with 2.1 v3 in my opinion. Telling everyone you're leaving because of it is just asking to be trolled/flamed. I suggest a mod closes this thread or something.
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Agree, 2.1 is so much better than 1.5. Plus, if you want to play with your phone and "customize it" a little there are home replacements in the market you can try. Helixlauncher is really good, and I just found one yesterday on android forums, real nice. It's called Zeam, http://www.mediafire.com/?jtzjyoklenk
Little to no lag and dialer is lightning fast.
So while you might not be rooted, it's nobody's fault that root hasn't been found yet or that you (op) flashed the leak. I want root too, but have the patience to wait for it to be found. There are some of the best devs on here working on it, only a matter of time.
~ happy 2.1 v3 leak user

my point wasnt i was unhappy with anyone here. I love 2.1v3 and yes, its leaps above 1.5
Just annoyed at what I am missing. I do not want this topic to be considered trollish..

lol go att captivate!

x Samsung Galaxy S GPS + other improvements for Samsung ATT Captivate are HERE! Today - next few weeks OTA notification will be sent to customers! 11 minutes ago · via HootSuite
Thanks for the support TMO!

Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Blah man said:
Hopefully tmobile announces something later today or by the end of the week, cuz it seems like our update is around the corner :fingers crossed:
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Doubt that because the still have no information about any of the update...

Android Central comments about the Captivate updates don't sound to impressive. issues with not installing and still GPS issues after the update?

Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!

Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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its not only gps. The Update Suppose to Improve The Battery Life as Well.

Emama said:
Want to know how is he GPs working after the update!!
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it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.

jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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WIndows 7 phone? LOL no thank you. i ll stick with my vibrant. i think the hardware in that phone is very advanced than what is in g2. we just need software updates that will fix the bugs.

jz9833 said:
it isnt fixing the issue from what I read. AT&T also never mentions a GPS fix.
The more and more time that goes by, the more and more I want a G2 when it comes out honestly. Sumsung really dropped the ball here and its going to leave a bad taste in a lot of people's minds for a long time...
Windows Phone 7 anyone? This phone is making me think about it also.
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You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.

tmobile is throwing Samsung under the bus, I got this back from a message I sent to Tmobiles facebook a bit ago..
Robert,
We understand your interest on updates Samsung is working on one and as soon as we have any more information on this we will communicate it.
.. notice they say that Samsung is working on one, I did ask about 2.2 though and not the gps fix.

SamsungVibrant said:
You know what, I think Samsung is 50 percent to Blame. The other 50 percent is T-Mobile. T-MOBILE...simply does not support their phones.
Buying the G2 will be the same damn story. Sure it will come with 2.2, but as soon as 3.0 comes along, every other carrier will have it months before T-Mobile releases it on the G2, and you will cry and complain "the more and more I want Verizon."
I honestly think the problem is T-Mobile, and not so much the handset manufacturers.
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Honestly, my biggest regret was leaving at&t. I left because I wasn't interested in an iphone, I noticed no good new WM apps were coming along, and I wanted a 3.5 mm headphone jack on my phone. The nexus filled all those needs so when it was released I jumped ship to t-mobile. I found out the grass isn't always greener on the other side.
I still have no idea why people say T-Mobiles customer support is better than AT&T; from everything I've seen it isn't even close.

Someone else posted on here before about T-Mobiles BB getting upgraded to V.5 not too long ago.. they have 6 out or it's close to release. T-Mobile does lack in this "Software/Firmware" Update department. They have some decent phones but don't support them enough.
It's amazing, when the G1 came out, yes it was the first Android phone but updates rolled out pretty quick. I know it was stock "Vanilla" Android but updates were addressed in a timely manor. But now they have the My Touch, My Touch Slide and Cliq series and now the Galaxy S phone.

Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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If you don't like the post why reply?

speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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So what its perfectly ok for other Galaxy S phones that haven't been out as long as the Vibrant to be getting their updates, but not us? Honestly, I really think it has to do a lot with TMO and not Sammy. Luckily, I've rooted and running a custom ROM and Voodoo fix. I also know that doing that is not for everyone though.

The Captivate came out what like 3 days after the Vibrant? Maybe tmo and Samsung are waiting to see how the update goes on the Captivate. It wont matter anyways we could get it tomorrow and people will still complain that it's not 2.2 or their phone is still not fast enough or some other bullcrap.
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speoples20 said:
Wow everyone is a bunch of goddamn vultures here. Waaah I've had my phone a month and a half Samsung and T-Mobile suck I want my updates waaah. People need to realize that updates need to go through a lot of steps. If you don't like your phone return it and get a different one.
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Your joking right? First almost 2 1/2 months. Second the others all got a update as mentioned.
All other phones with 1ghz are running froyo, even a hd2 without android has it.lom

I vote we get /b/ to start ****. Maybe then we might get some movement from T-Mo and Samsung... just me? >.>

not that it will do anything to Tmobile but I've decided that whoever gets 2.2 on the Galaxy S device first is who I will be switching to. If its Tmobile then I won't be going anywhere, but if another carrier can get it out before Tmobile see ya.
Tmobile launched this device First int he US there is no reason they should not be the first to release the OS update even if it takes them till November

I do agree that they need to support their phones better. But at least TMO isn't forcing bing down our throats either.
I come from the Blackberry side of the fence and I remember when 5.0 devices were new last year it took forever for TMO to release an update for the 9700, and that original release was filled with bugs. I finally gave up on waiting for them and simply downloaded another carrier's release. Easy to do on that platform.
I like the Vibrant for the most part. Yes it has bugs; yes it's quality needs to be improved. Yes the GPS kind of sucks. But what other high-end phone out there doesn't have issues these days? I'm sure the G2 will have them as well.

Use social media to stick it to sprint and samsung

Pissed off about the 2.2 delays? Yeah me too.
DK28 not stable enough for you? Yeah me too.
Have had it with neither firm taking responsibility or communicating the status of the project? Yeah me too.
Take action:
Comment on: https://www.facebook.com/sprint and tell their social marketing team that you want an answer, an eta, a statement of responsibility. Hit them up at http://twitter.com/sprint too.
Or even: http://investors.sprint.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=127149&p=irol-contact
Do the same for https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobile
Both firms are more likely to see your voice and respond to it then they would trolling the xda forums.
Do the same for https://twitter.com/samsungmobileus
Or even: https://contactus.samsung.com/customer/contactus/formmail/mail/MailQuestionGeneral.jsp?SITE_ID=76&PROD_ID=2088

I like this idea. I'll be bugging them as soon as I get home from work.
Sent from the Fastest Phone in the Galaxy

Hey guys, this is my first post and I'm a long time reader, so bear with me . Anyways, I toyally agree with you except, I just got off of the phone with samsung and according to the lady 2.2.1 was already released to sprint on the 17th of december. So if she is correct, it would be way more effective to call sprint instead because they are the ones with the ball in their court now (IMO). Yeah, samsung took long, but I think we must now pressure the carriers bcause it WAS already released to them (idk about AT&T) and that's maybe why the galaxy s phones were listed as 2.2 on Sammy's website. The sounded like she thought we had it by now, but maybe she's just... DUMB? Again I may be totally wrong about all of this sooo.... that's just my current thoughts on the update drama.
*edit: but hey, I guess it wouldn't hurt to talk to samsung while you're at it xD
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Put messages on both twitters and FB pages.

galaxywhat? said:
Hey guys, this is my first post and I'm a long time reader, so bear with me . Anyways, I toyally agree with you except, I just got off of the phone with samsung and according to the lady 2.2.1 was already released to sprint on the 17th of december. So if she is correct, it would be way more effective to call sprint instead because they are the ones with the ball in their court now (IMO). Yeah, samsung took long, but I think we must now pressure the carriers bcause it WAS already released to them (idk about AT&T) and that's maybe why the galaxy s phones were listed as 2.2 on Sammy's website. The sounded like she thought we had it by now, but maybe she's just... DUMB? Again I may be totally wrong about all of this sooo.... that's just my current thoughts on the update drama.
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The strategy here is not to directly go to one or the other but to both in hopes that one will pressure the other to make a statement or take direct responsibility.
Although I am glad that this is the case and we now have an official statement from Samsung.

Did anyone who posted ever receive a response?
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Did anyone who posted ever receive a response?
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they never respong back dude... i've been posting **** on Samsungs page for ages now about it and they dont give a crap.

apatcas said:
they never respong back dude... i've been posting **** on Samsungs page for ages now about it and they dont give a crap.
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Well what are the chances they will respond to that kind of language? Come one now. How can they respect the vocabulary of a middle schooler lacking in eloquence?
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I've posted on all of the links twice now and even added @SamsungService to my tweets. Its odd. I hate twitter and I've refused to tweet after trying it once but if to get these corporations to respond to our community I must break my personal ban then I'll install the damn app on my phone.

Don't forget to hassle http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport too.

Posted and tweeted. Let them hear our voices united.

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Don't forget to hassle http://twitter.com/GalaxySsupport too.
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Added to my harrass list. Will note however that I doubt this will bring about anything. They could care less how we the minority of users savvy enough to know the difference feel. They've sold near 10 million SGS phones.

Personally I think they should have froyo out a long time ago, HOWEVER if it's unstable, why release it? DK28 is close to stable but not for prime time. I'm running it and need to restart the phone about once or twice a day.
I suspect it was a management decision to not release it because if there are big issues and they release it around xmas time, who is going to be around to fix it or support all the end users complaining? Most of the people take vacations around mid December until January for holidays... Most likely they have short staff.
I think we'll see something in January when they have developers ironing out the last bugs and have a full support team. Maybe for CES??
On another note, I think they "leaked" 2.2.1 out for a reason.. let's beta test on the hard core folks... Lots of people complained about GPS and some other issues, so best to fix it first from their perspective. These leaks happen to go to typically more advanced users that can figure out how to revert back to stock without needing to call support...

Is there a such app that would do the same as an app called sms bomber but it would do emails or tweets lol then you could blow them up literally.....sprint
Viper Rom

Done and Done!

Gladly... thanks for the links!

Was reading around the pages and you guys are doing it wrong...
If your posting on a Sprint page, blame sprint, no matter what others say blame sprint and give evidence that its sprint..(if people blame samsung prove that is sprints fault)
(for those wondering international sgs did get froyo updates..it is official..not a rumor...the ones in canada were taken down but they were reinstated a week later and everything works)
If your on Samsung's page blame samsung and if people blame carriers prove that its samsungs fault...
This may sound contradicting but if your posting about how samsung sucks on a Sprint site..sprint does not need to defend samsung..they can let them take the blame..
same way the other way..
*evil grin* lol

I'm not sure of the timing but this was posted to phandroid after we started:
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/30/epic-4g-2-2-delayed-you-dont-say/
It would be nice for a carrier or manufacturer to give an official response instead of pushing the responsibility off to the retailers or customer service reps at the bottom.
Keep it going. Maybe we'll see something next week when the big whigs come back from their holiday vacation.
Oh and if you were looking key people:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/company/sprint-nextel-corporation/s/nys/key-executives should help you out.

Been doing tweets to @samsungservice, @samsungmobileus, @galaxyssupport and @sprint every couple hours now. Added @samsungtweets as well. Been doing facebook ones too but not gotten any official responses.

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Been doing facebook ones too but not gotten any official responses.
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That makes sense. No one is going to be around on their digial marketing team this time of the year. Hopefully when they return next week they'll respond.
Keep the chatter going though. The more attention the problem gets the more likely a response will be given.

You're kidding me right?

Is the LG Ally seriously getting a froyo update before the fascinate. Yet another reason why I hate Samsung & Verizon
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-ally-about-get-froyo-update
You can rant with frustration & disappointment below. lol.

I gave up on samsung updating us a while ago. I know this doesn't mean much, but I was at a verizon store the other day so for the hell of it I asked when we were getting our froyo update. He blatantly said "you're not getting it." At least I know I can count on the awesome devs to unleash the true potential of this phone. Thank you kaos, jt, birdman, geeknik, adrynalyne, sonofskywalker, and anyone else I forgot. You guys are awesome
EDIT: I forgot....THANK YOU IVORY for donating the fascinate to kaos!!
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Is the LG Ally seriously getting a froyo update before the fascinate. Yet another reason why I hate Samsung & Verizon
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-ally-about-get-froyo-update
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Not sure why you mention Verizon, since they're the ones pushing the LG update. Shouldn't is just be Samsung?

I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.

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I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.
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I'm thinking I'm glad I'm standing pat on... umm... whatever the hell was before DL09... DJ05?
I just picked up my morning coffee.

The Ally was released in May, they have been waiting a lot longer...
(Though some of the other US SGS phones were released in June.)

Well, some of them were promised 2.0 and their updates stopped at 1.6.

"Enhanced browser performance for faster loading of Java Script pages. Note: Adobe Flash browsing will not be supported on this device"
Did you guys MISS that line ???? No Flash browser, might as well not be 2.2....

Yes, we totally are kidding!
Verizon released Froyo for the Fascinate yesterday, but they just won't give it to you. Why? We're not sure. Maybe you didn't pay your bill on time, or maybe they're prejudiced against people with {insert your hair color here} hair. They can be pretty capricious that way.
The rest of us are rocking it, but nobody has posted here about it because we all like keeping secrets and making you angry.
Toodles!

Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.

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Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
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Please don't spread rumors. There are enough in the blogosphere to do it for you.

pvgomer said:
Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
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You hit this one right on the head! Sammy needs a lesson on what "open source" is. Although I think Verizon could be a little more vocal, in the end it all comes down to Sammy.

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Agreed and there web site is down so I can't download the media recovery and was unable to find the toolboot exe
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pvgomer said:
Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
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Please don't perpetuate unverified rumors.

mexiken said:
"Enhanced browser performance for faster loading of Java Script pages. Note: Adobe Flash browsing will not be supported on this device"
Did you guys MISS that line ???? No Flash browser, might as well not be 2.2....
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Actually, I would gladly take 2.2 without flash to get JIT and chrome to phone, not to mention some apps are coded to only work on newer versions.

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Actually, I would gladly take 2.2 without flash to get JIT and chrome to phone, not to mention some apps are coded to only work on newer versions.
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I would, but the majority of the tools and noobs in here only care about Flash. I'm actually most excited about JIT and the ability to upgrade integrated apps independent of software updates (like Gmail for example)

adrynalyne said:
I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.
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Really? Don't leave us Adrynalyne. It's making me mad too. I was forced to update to DL09 since I got my phone replaced today, and I went back to DJ05. And then the CD bug happened. It's such an awesome phone, crippled by poor carrier/manufacturer support.

Im not leaving...its just the OCD in me kills me on things like this.
We got it resolved yesterday, anyway.

I'm new to this forum and still trying to find my way around it, so could you point me in the direction of the usb situation fix please? Thank you.
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[Q] questions from a Droid user maybe coming to sprint

I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.

Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Evo3d or nexus 4g or any phones that are dual core that come out in the next 3 months
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If you get the epic, make sure you rigorously test the hardware keyboard within the first 30 days so you can return it if you get a phone that's physical keyboard drops keys.
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iSaint said:
Yes if you like a hardware keyboard then get the Epic it's a great phone you won't be dissapointed
If you like running the latest and Greatest software then the Nexus S will be out for sprint in like a month.
If you want a powerhouse of a phone then the Evo3D should be out by June following what they did with the original Evo
This thread might give you more info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1004091
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Thanks for the link!

I never buy phones on contract, and swapped from an iPhone to a Moto Droid in May of last year. Loved the Android platform, since I'm a programmer and super-user -- not a dumb user, the way the iPhone continued to fail.
I switched to the Epic 4G around October of that year (bought off-contract as well, ESN was clear, but ended up still being attached to an account... got scammed and ported it to Cricket myself). Love the keyboard. Love the screen. Not a bad phone at all. I wouldn't buy it on contract, though, since the new phones are coming out. But in my mind, the Epic is a definite upgrade from the Droid, albeit still not quite as flexible as the original Droid was in terms of development and ROMs (was on Sapphire with Droid -- tried pretty much all the different ROMs for Epic and they're nice, but not as nice as something mostly AOSP, i.e. CM7 or Sapphire). Waiting patiently for Epic's CM7 to be mostly stable so I can try to ROM with that -- having very high hopes for it.
So in a nutshell, yes, great phone. But, the only issue is that the phone will be outdated rather quick, though I don't think we're going to see another contender with a decent keyboard for a while with dual-core processors, etc (re: I'm guessing a year). No comment on Sprint service, but double check with reviews in your area to see how coverage, etc, is before making the jump.

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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cpcormier3 said:
I would stay away from this phone if I were you. The roms I've tried are all pretty good, but never perfect for me. I can tell you the current stock rom is still sub par. I would get the HTC if I you. I know people on here will tell you it's not a good of a phone, but I can tell you it works a hell of a lot better. If you really want this phone I will trade you mine + I'll give you $100 if you get the evo and trade me. I'm trying to sell mine now! my phones of on really good shape, no damage to it at all. If you're interested or anyone else, pm me! But to be honest this phone is not really worth it.
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DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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It's a great phone now. Got mine for the second time on friday and updated that evening ota. I also have a Evo and Evo shift and had the dual core Atrix(hype at this point imho).
The Epic is my favorite although i do prefer the keyboard on the Evo shift cause its smaller which is odd but rue
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jbadboy2007 said:
DON'T LISTEN TO THIS GUY. His intelligence is showing with trying to trade you for a lesser quality phone. The evo shift does not have an amoled screen or the gpu power the epic has. This phone is amazing and will be amazing for atleast 2 years. This phone will hold up to the dual cores of this year hands down. I've been with sprint for 9 years and they keep getting better. Development could be stronger but we have gotten EVERYTHING WE NEEDED FROM OUR DEVS HERE. CM7 is in progress and there is a stable alpha.
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Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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cpcormier3 said:
Well maybe you like having to spend a million hours to get the phone to work, but for me, not really. It's almost a full time job trying to get this thing to work right! I agree the hardware is great, but not worth the fight to make it work right. I've spent hours flashing this thing since the new update and I will tell you I still have problems with this phone. If you would like me to list all the problems with my phone I would be happy to do so!
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YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.

I really do like my phone and the ROMs are smoke'n.
They have been having a bit of an issue releasing Froyo that doesn't have some level of suckage.
We're expecting a 3rd try this week.
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
Some GPS issues; though each update makes it a bit better.
There is a reason that this phone is the #1 selling PDA phone.
Having all said that, in a few months there will be some really powerful stuff that will just blow the doors off anything currently available. If I were in your position. I'd go for a multi-processor phone.
Good luck

I say get an evo.
Theres a whole lot more going on with the evo development that its a much more flexible phone.
Our phone has a lot of potential, but with a fracyion of evo/droid devs its harder for the epic to get there.
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jdelano said:
What balances that are the AWESOME devs for it; they popout an updated ROM with the latest update in no time at all.
Everyone is spot on in regards to hardware keyboard, I find myself (I HAD to have a real keyboard) actually using the swype keyboard way more than the physical one. Go figure.
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Check out the hardware keyboard fix from mkasick - it's implemented in SRF 1.1.0 and its accompanying kernel, Twilight Zone 1.1.0. If you don't want to leave your current ROM, give Twilight Zone a try. The fix is an adjustable one - so you can set the value as low as you want. That should completely eliminate any issues you're having.

063_XOBX said:
YOU have issues, the vast majority of people are capable of flashing a ROM correctly and troubleshooting any problems they might have, don't dissuade someone from purchasing a phone they want because YOU have problems using it correctly.
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These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.

063_XOBX said:
I do have both, and have had few issued with either, I made the choice to stick with the Epic as my daily driver because its a much nice phone hardware wise and significantly lighter. I find it difficult to believe you would have any of the issues you're having if you properly flashed it.
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I can't even tell you how many times I've flashed this phone trying to get an optimal set up. I have found that over all I've had less problems with the stock rom, but it is still a lot more buggy than the evo. I would just give this phone to my girlfriend and take her evo, but I don't think she would know what to do if the phone went haywire on her. Hers is stock and I've had far less issues with it than this phone. The only times I had any real issues with her evo is when I tried to mess with it. Trust me man, I thought I was the one screwing up this phone, that's why I'm trying out the stock hardware! All I'm saying there are a lot more issues. Trust me I bought this phone for the same reasons as everyone else! I'm just getting sick and tired of having to Odin the damn thing everyone 3 to 4 weeks! I thought a program may have been causing it, so now I'm trying stock ROM EC and I've only rooted it. I've downloaded XDA, Poynt, Blow up, and the Chase apps. These are the only apps I have on here now, so I was hoping that it was maybe an app causing my problems. Today I had my first problem since going to my current set up. I've been talking about it in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12464672#post12464672. I'm hoping that it's something that I just needed to reboot my phone. The only other thing I can think that made my phone go black screen is when I use the media player and play videos. I'm hoping it's not one of the apps, but I haven't been able to replicate the problem today. I'm just saying that my girl doesn't have any of these issues with the evo and right now I'm basically on the edge with this phone!!!! I also don't want to shell out a bunch more money for a phone so I just kind of have to deal with it and hope I can find a solution, but I would not recommend this phone to anyone after what I've been through! The Nexus S may be a different story since it's stock, but not this phone!

cpcormier3 said:
These forums speak for them selves. You don't see half the problems in the HTC forums. Also if you have BOTH phones you would know how many more problems there are on this phone. I would wait for the nexus s if you want a sammy. I would not choose this phone again if I had it to do over.
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I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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jbadboy2007 said:
I'm not gonna say that flashing isn't a complicated thing. But that's your choice and if you really want to experience amazing ui then it takes time of the individual to figure how and what they can and can not do. That's why there is 1 click root. Flashing is not meant for everyone so if you don't have the time that's cool but don't blame the phone for your short comings either in time or intelligence or pesistence.
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Trust me I've flashed this phone many times. I'm sorry to tell you that when you flash Roms and kernels there are still going to be some problems. I realise that you may want to flash Roms and kernels to make the phone run a certain way, otherwise there wouldn't be multiple roms or kernels to flash if everything worked perfect with one. You're showing your ignorance if you think that a flashed rom and/or kernel is going to be problem free. There's a reason why there are constant updates to the roms and kernels.
I'm just tired of doing it and you should be able to use the phone, without it crashing, without having to mess with it. I don't think it's too much to ask for the phone to not crash when it's stock. Maybe I need to go to full stock with out root. Maybe that's what's causing the phone to mess up. That's my next option!
Edit: I wish I could see other things you've bought. Just curious what type of repairs you had to do to them...
Not sure why you would expect something to NOT work correctly out of the box? You make a valid point it shouldn't work correctly stock..........

justin8338 said:
I currently have the Original Droid, which has been a great phone in terms of what you have been able to do to it and it's reliability. My question is; how do the owners of the Epic feel about their phone? Still happy with it? Like the roms that have come out for it? And since I haven't paid much attention to Sprint, up until now, any other phones down the line I should think about? My contract with Verizon is up in 3 months.
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Whatever you do, do NOT get the Epic. Even if it's free. The keyboard TO THIS DAY does not work properly. It still misses keys and it's not layed out all that well either. I came from a g1 that had a keyboard that ACTUALLY registered keys, even if you type faster than my grandma. Please do not get the epic, get the evo shift or wait for something else on Verizon.
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