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I've got a decent firmware and its rooted and lag fixed (nearly 2300 on quadrant), but even so it's still not perfect. However, I have noticed that turning off the animations genuinely seems to make the phone fly, I know some of it is just because it takes less time for a screen to just appear than when it has to play an animation, but I actually think it's more than that. Things like adding widgets is now a LOT faster.
Also, live wallpaper, however simple it is, has a noticable (negative) impact on overall performance.
By changing to a static wallpaper and no animation, the phone is now extremely fast at all times.
You still get some animations on launcher pro, so its not totally bland!
Probably stating the obvious really, but it's something that seems to work well for me. I dont really miss the animations particularly, especially as it wasn't always smooth anyway.
i have to agree about the widget thing but i will have to spend some more time before i can comment on the overall performance.
i'd trade pretty fun animation for some performance hit
but that's just me
This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
i dunno mayne its the snap to grid that causes it because flipping back and forth from pane to pane is smooth.
Coming from the transformer, this was the first thing i actually noticed. One thing that would help is to change the default wallpaper to one of your own. It actually improves it significantly
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I have a Xoom on 3.2 and the home screen is really smooth. I have looked at many Touchwiz videos on Youtube and it seems very laggy compared to my Xoom. But i guess i will soon see it in person, just ordered a GT10.1 3G.
Only reason that your tab or phone are laggy on homescreen is due to either wallpaper or widget,
To fix it get wallpaper wizardrii and set to no scroll.
In regards to the icons well notice that you have additional few more effects when you tap and hold icons, there is stransparency, grid etc. If you want to move icons from app dock to homescreen it shows both at the same time, and homescreen is active not paused.
Ios will never be able to do this there is just to much
At the moment my tab is acting really weird.
My wallpaper is scrolling although it should not, screen is absolutely jitter free all that happened since I've activated kies via wifi and deselected usb debugging (needed it to install drivers)
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Can't say mine is laggy at all but I'm not using the stock launcher. The latest "UEKMB" slim Launcher2 with enabled hw acceleration and Multipicture LWP looks and feels extremely smooth. I have no comparison to another Honeycomb Tablet but I can't really see it getting noticeable "smoother".
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This seems to be such a common problem for android phones and tablets. Even with deodexed, slimmed, optimized roms and overclocked kernels, it just boggles my mind that the homescreen is the slowest part of the android experience. Other apps scroll smoothly and are responsive, but the homescreen is jerky and slow.
Try this: Long click an icon and drag it around the screen. The thing can't follow even a moderately fast-moving finger. And that's just a simple icon moving on a 2d plane. But then, I can run a playstation emulator in 3d without problems.
The same thing has been true on my G1, SGS, Droid Charge, GTab 10.1, and Moto Droid 1.
Am I missing something?
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I have the same problem.... Before the Touchwiz update my homescreen was very laggy, after the update it became less lagy but you can still feel it when scrolling which, I gotta tell you is the most annoying thing... IS there any way to make my homescreen smoother? I've tried wallpaper wizardrii which helped but after awhile the wallpaper cuts in half... I have no more than 5 widgets on my Tab and i'm still amazed on how bad the screen lag is.... I
I'm using ADW Launcher EX, and the screen is super smooth/responsive. The latest version has a high-density option, so we still get the big icons. It's $2 or $3 but it's worth it, and the other thing is to disable the scrolling desktop.
Give it a try. I'm not sure why the stock launcher is so choppy, but they could learn something from the folks who made ADW.
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Side note: My current ROM/Kernal is completely stock. No root, no OC, and ADW is still silky smooth. BUT... it was even smoother when I was running my Tab at 1400 with AutoKiller.
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I see the lag on my Tab that is described by the OP.
However, I do NOT see it on my HTC Thunderbolt phone running Go Launcher EX.
Arun01 said:
Adw launcher is great. I use it on my Xoom & it makes it fly.Try it on the 10.1 & give us some feedback.
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I just finished installing ADW launcher ex and its A LOT smoother than stock, the transition from landscape to portrait view is still a bit droggy but that's probably because of the widgets. I'm loving the new look ADW gave my tablet.
I too was very frustrated with the homescreen lag on my 10.1. I installed ADW Launcher EX and it has been super smooth and givees you some neat options for homescreen transition effects too. Give it a try.
do a search.
Its because Google has little to no interest in fixing the UI/gpu/hw acceleration issues.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it. Its a fundamental issue with Android that has been ignored and no intention of real fix.
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do a search.
Your phone tablet apps launcher etc have nothing to do with it.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Who made the stock launcher?... Google...
It is well known that Google cuts corners in relation to standardization and hardware acceleration. Instead the focus on incrementally updating release numbers instead.
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Based on the number of people that just said the stock launcher is laggy, and the aftermarket ones are not, I would say the launcher has quite a lot to do with it.
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Lag and framerate drops happen across the ui not just the launcher. It is an Android problem not anything device specific.
I have a standard (scrolling, but not live) wallpaper, 5 widgets and maybe 30 shortcut icons on my desktop/homescreen. Scrolling from one to another is silky smooth (3.1 TW). On one occasion it was quite laggy, it seemed like it had gone from hw accel'd to software for no obvious reason.... Quick reboot fixed it, though.
While it's probably true some performace issues lie with google, I'd wager most problems lie with users and developers doing things badly (or trying to do too much).
I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
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I deleted the social hub widget and my homescreen does not lag at all anymore.
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THIS. Widgets. Remove them.
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Admit you have no real friends.
Remove the social widget.
????
PROFIT!
Mine varies from ROM to ROM. I actually get the smoothest experience on stock 3.1 no TW.
Nice explanation from google regarding hardware acceleration, a must read one
http://blog.gsmarena.com/googles-dianne-hackborn-talks-about-hardware-acceleration-in-android-says-it-had-it-in-it-all-along/
Original post
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
Very interesting indeed.
What do you guys notice with enabled hw acceleration (build.prop tweak and set in most custom ROMs)? Do you think it is always smoother? Do you even feel a difference?
great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?
Gorjess said:
great find.. ICS is starting to infect my urge to upgrade
but it says that hw acceleration wont be available for nexus s and below..
so on default hw accel. is only enabled on dual-core phones?
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It seems to be like that, also the GPU should be strong enough to handle it,else only cpu rendering
The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.
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The article is enlightening, but comes across as an excuse for laggy interfaces on Android when one considers IOS manages much smoother transitions with apparently lower spec hardware.
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Well.. that is so true. And probably one of the reasons iOS still rulz
A quick visual overview between and android device vs and iDevice.. would have the android device cry
This is one of the reasons I am really eager to have ICS on my sgs2!
I want to see some smoothness
I saw on Beyond3D linked Andrew Munn's thoughts to Dianne Hackborn's post
https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
Its a bit of a downer and still a long ways to go.
At last. All this hw acceleration 'hacks', enablers, tweaks, bull****...
it really got on my nerve.
Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.
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Can't say i've ever had a problem with smoothness on SGS2 with touchwiz. Seems it must be hardware accelerated. That's why the phone can do any live wallpaper I throw at it and won't slow down, lag or skip. Stock.
Throw on a home screen replacement like Launcher Pro, ADW or Go Launcher and live wallpapers are useless mind.
I-phones are nice and smooth, but that's because the whole screen is filled with lovely la la baby icons, you can't see the wallpaper, it has nothing running in the background, no widgets, the operating system stays the same with every iteration bar some crap additions like notification centres and Siri, and has no live wallpaper.
I know which phone I would choose.
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And that's my friend why I now love samsung and my GS2 so much
It is the only android that makes android really proud
i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.
I'm running cyanogen and never seen any lag, even with very heavy customization.
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As said, twlauncher is really butter smooth even with a live wallpaper, the only problem with twlaucher is resizing and multi dpi. Twlauncher wont use fullscreen when using 200 or 180 dpi.
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i would love to know you are getting TW to run smooth without lagging, because mine lags like hell on fresh stock rom. especially when the wallpaper scrolls with the homescreen. TW just never worked for me.
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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Android can never be as smooth as iphone?
Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.
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Android will be laggy even with HW acceleration, the reason is
http://www.tipb.com/2011/12/06/android-ui-smooth-ios/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/n1e89/follow_up_to_android_graphics_true_facts_or_the/
But i am very much happy with my SGS2.
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""UI rendering occurs on the main thread of an app
UI rendering has normal priority"""
As long as the task is running in cpu we can talk about threading and setting thread priority, but once the task switches to GPU(as in ICS) there will be no need for thread priority and where the rendering of UI takes place.
So if any apps makes use of hw feature in ICS, they should be smooth enough to run at 60fps for rendering.
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Then you must have a faulty phone? Touchwiz has been buttery smooth on every single TW rom I have tried.
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Not sure about that.other launchers are very smooth.phone runs everything fine.what fault coupd there be thats making tw not as smooth as most describe it to be.
Agree with the posts that say TWLauncher is the smoothest on the SGS2, I've tried most of them. Live wallpapers have little effect on that smoothness, and that can't be said for other launchers.
Overall, the SGS2 is as smooth as the iPhone 4 I had.
However, I did play with a WP7 Lumia 800 the other day, and it is definitely the smoothest UI I ever used.
The ip4s is pretty smooth too... but I'd trade a tiny bit of smoothness for the sheer possibilities with Android.... but I have to say I was really quite impressed with WP7.
Was using my mobile clocked down to 500 mhz.. as a downside my go launcher started to lag like anything, switched to stock TW, to my total disbelief, the stock launcher is insanely smooth even when downclocked to 500 mhz. Stock launcher is purely hardware accelerated for sure.
I use hyperdroid which uses a build.prop tweak to enable hardware acceleration. Now even if i place go launcher's apk in system/app folder, still i cant see it running as smoothly as touchwiz. So is that tweak really working with other launchers. I deleted original touchwiz and rebooted but still go launcher lags a lot as comapared to tw. Anyone knows what exactly that tweak does?
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Seriously, why do some live wallpapers cause some horrendous lag on homescreen while some live wallpapers barely cause any lag?
I would think that 1 ghz dual core and 1gb ram is more than enough to handle any kind of live wallpapers. Even overclocking seems to not reduce live wallpaper lag.
Is this just a flaw in Android?
It seems that fully 3D rendered live wallpapers don't have much lag while 2D live wallpapers have the worst lag.
And how is it that some custom launchers are able to reduce this lag?
I used ADW Launcher EX on Honeycomb and I know for a fact that it literally eliminated the lag from a live wallpaper when the same live wallpaper caused really bad lag on stock launcher.
Unfortunately the Tegra 2 GPU isn't very good, especially at 1280 x 800 resolution
it just can't handle the load.
Enabling "forced 2d gpu rendering" helps a bit with the lag. In some cases it helps a lot.
The reason some launchers works better with LWP is simply because they are more light-weight than the stock.
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Seriously, why do some live wallpapers cause some horrendous lag on homescreen while some live wallpapers barely cause any lag?
I would think that 1 ghz dual core and 1gb ram is more than enough to handle any kind of live wallpapers. Even overclocking seems to not reduce live wallpaper lag.
Is this just a flaw in Android?
It seems that fully 3D rendered live wallpapers don't have much lag while 2D live wallpapers have the worst lag.
And how is it that some custom launchers are able to reduce this lag?
I used ADW Launcher EX on Honeycomb and I know for a fact that it literally eliminated the lag from a live wallpaper when the same live wallpaper caused really bad lag on stock launcher.
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No, it's a flaw in the Tegra2. It's a really crappy SoC.
Does this lag happen even on Tegra 3?
No, T3 has a much better GPU
sigh. Can't believe something like this is making me want to upgrade.
Stock launcher seems to create more lag with live wallpapers, using one like ADW Launcher EX gives a much smoother experience
Some live wallpaper are better made then others, tegra 2 can run very nice ones without lag, but that depends on the developer. Tegra 2 is not that bad. If tegra 3 can run those bad ones smoothly you better belive it will still be a battry drainer
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Some live wallpaper are better made then others, tegra 2 can run very nice ones without lag, but that depends on the developer. Tegra 2 is not that bad. If tegra 3 can run those bad ones smoothly you better belive it will still be a battry drainer
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Nope. I've tried literally every available live wallpapers, paid and free.
Full 3D rendered live wallpapers don't have much lag, while 2D live wallpapers with static background have a ton of lag. It doesn't depend on the developer as much. I've tried both 3d and 2d live wallpapers from the SAME DEVELOPER and the 2d one lagged horribly while the 3d one didn't.
Tegra 2 is just that bad. Overclocking doesn't even reduce the wallpaper lag.
People still whining about battery drain from live wallpaper? It's not significant enough to bother me.
I would rather have no lag and battery drain than lag and battery drain.
It's not just about live wallpapers though. Everything is just kinda too slow. I feel more of this everyday. Maybe I am too used to the speed of my desktop or laptop.
Can't wait for a decent quad core tablet to come out.
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Overclocking doesn't even reduce the wallpaper lag.
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No idea what youre talking about. OC'ing helps a lot. But Force 2d GPU rendering is by far the most effective for LWP's.
Actually come to think of it, Ive never encountered a LWP that lags... All some do is slow the launcher down to a halt, resulting in anywhere between 1 and 5sec lag between swiping the screens/open the app drawer.
But the LWP has never lagged for me.
If you could give me a name of such a LWP (free, please), Id gladly try it.
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No idea what youre talking about. OC'ing helps a lot. But Force 2d GPU rendering is by far the most effective for LWP's.
Actually come to think of it, Ive never encountered a LWP that lags... All some do is slow the launcher down to a halt, resulting in anywhere between 1 and 5sec lag between swiping the screens/open the app drawer.
But the LWP has never lagged for me.
If you could give me a name of such a LWP (free, please), Id gladly try it.
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I have been noticing some errors when using the force 2d rendering option
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Actually come to think of it, Ive never encountered a LWP that lags... All some do is slow the launcher down to a halt, resulting in anywhere between 1 and 5sec lag between swiping the screens/open the app drawer.
But the LWP has never lagged for me.
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Sorry if I wasn't being clear, but the underlined is exactly what I meant by LWPs having lag.
Yea the live wallpapers themselves don't lag but they cause the launcher, including app drawer, to perform horribly.
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Sorry if I wasn't being clear, but the underlined is exactly what I meant by LWPs having lag.
Yea the live wallpapers themselves don't lag but they cause the launcher, including app drawer, to perform horribly.
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Ah yeah, then we're sharing the experience then.
But for me, at least, OC'ing does indeed help with it.
But that said, Ive also noticed that some ROMS perform better with LWP than others.
For example EOS build 12 could play (is that the correct term? well whatever) some LWP's without a single hickup, while build 19 is struggling a lot on the same LWP, launcher, cpu setting etc (but the most strange part is that the more I use build 19, the better it starts performing with LWP's...)
also @anarox, Yes, force GPU rendering isnt without its issues. I guess this is sort of a "you cant both have the cake and eat it" thing
Hi! I installed today Nova Launcher on my nexus 4. What I immediatly noticed is that is smoother than the default launcher... and I was wondering why? I came from an iphone to android and there , if you put a third party theme or a third party anything it's 10 times laggier than the default...
I will kinda like to keep my default launcher cuz I am a little bit of a keep stock everything...
The diferences that I saw is that in my widgets drawer in nova the animation doesn't lag but the images of the widgets appear later... now in default launcher the animation between pages is laggy , sometimes extremely laggy and also the images appear later.
Can someone tell me if I can fix the default launcher to not be laggy?
PS Sometimes in the drawer there is lag when i do the first swipe to go to the next page and then is ok , but the first swipe is laggy
PS2: I already did the trick with disable backround currents sync
nova is pretty much stock, i mean, looks like stock, feels like stock, just with more options to customize, it is best launcher in my opinion. i don't think you can do much to improve your navigating performance, if you already disabled background sync. also, nexus 4 shouldn't be laggy at all, it's one of the fastest phones out there. although, my nexus (with or without nova launcher) sometimes lags in widgets area but i think it's perfectly normal, nothing wrong with that (you should see galaxy s3's performance in widget area, u will feel much better )
Hard reset. I have absolutely no lag when swiping thru the drawer pages.
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nova is pretty much stock, i mean, looks like stock, feels like stock, just with more options to customize, it is best launcher in my opinion. i don't think you can do much to improve your navigating performance, if you already disabled background sync. also, nexus 4 shouldn't be laggy at all, it's one of the fastest phones out there. although, my nexus (with or without nova launcher) sometimes lags in widgets area but i think it's perfectly normal, nothing wrong with that (you should see galaxy s3's performance in widget area, u will feel much better )
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besides currents , are there any other backround sync to kill? the one that I have running and I need is the contacts and instant upload
Nova launcher has different speed settings for animations and scrolling. IIRC, nova by default has the speed set to "nova speed" which makes everything feel faster. That may be why it feels like it lags less. For what it's worth, I only use nova launcher on my android devices. All the look and feel of stock with a lot of nice options. Kind of how CM 10 is to stock android.
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So , I returned! I hard reseted my nexus 4 and with no luck! Even now , when I do my first swipe when I enter the drawer it is 90% of times laggy and when I get to widgets is the same , sometimes laggy sometimes not
I mean I am a little bit dissapointed , I mean I come from an iphone 4 which has a 1ghz processor , single core and now i have a quad core processor , and I would have expected that the experience is 10 times smoother than on the iphone but I have more lag than I ever had on the iphone. I am not saying android isn't awesome cuz it is but I hate that first laggy scroll and the widgets drawer lag so much that it makes me cranky