Oh, Nokia, You Silly Goose - EVO 4G General

Well, apparently Nokia has a new business model:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
I got a good chuckle out of this. A friend of mine has a W7 phone so I've played with one before, but it's just not Android.
Best of luck to them, I'll never buy a Nokia anything, even if it ran Android, it sucks for W7 that they got stuck with such a mediocre and unimpressive phone maker.
Thoughts?

Good luck to them I guess.

yes, best of luck to them. they can and will beat ios but android can't be touched

NewZJ said:
yes, best of luck to them. they can and will beat ios but android can't be touched
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I agree. 10char

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Well, apparently Nokia has a new business model:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
I got a good chuckle out of this. A friend of mine has a W7 phone so I've played with one before, but it's just not Android.
Best of luck to them, I'll never buy a Nokia anything, even if it ran Android, it sucks for W7 that they got stuck with such a mediocre and unimpressive phone maker.
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Have you ever used a nokia phone?
Nokia runs circles around apple, htc, sprint, samsung, lg and every single other "phone maker" combined. They are the only company that puts legit thought into the models of their phones. Not to mention their cameras from 2 years ago are far superior to our current 5mp and 8mp camera.
Any OS that Nokia chooses to use should be considered blessed.

starplaya93 said:
Have you ever used a nokia phone?
Nokia runs circles around apple, htc, sprint, samsung, lg and every single other "phone maker" combined. They are the only company that puts legit thought into the models of their phones. Not to mention their cameras from 2 years ago are far superior to our current 5mp and 8mp camera.
Any OS that Nokia chooses to use should be considered blessed.
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I wont disagree with this. I had a N97 and it was one of the best phones ive had.

Better yet have you used the N900? Excellent phone, open source hardware and OS. I suggest anyone interested in customization or even learning dev to check it out. Maemo is almost completely community supported. Nokia just should have followed through instead of jumping to MeeGo so quickly. I am not currently impressed with Meego. I wish they would have just continued QT dev on Maemo. The N900 hardware rocks
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Better yet have you used the N900? Excellent phone, open source hardware and OS. I suggest anyone interested in customization or even learning dev to check it out. Maemo is almost completely community supported. Nokia just should have followed through instead of jumping to MeeGo so quickly. I am not currently impressed with Meego. I wish they would have just continued QT dev on Maemo. The N900 hardware rocks
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I think that they just got really desperate with android, ios and now wp7 moving so fast.

I just hope they don't completely forsake MeeGo for WM7. MeeGo looks like something I'd potentially leave android for. I can run my own shell scripts on it? Sign me up!

starplaya93, smarmytime Nokia has a great history of hits. If they just maintain some consistency i am sure the could succeed.

Nokia makes some friggin indestructible phones

AbsolutZeroGI said:
Well, apparently Nokia has a new business model:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/nokia-our-first-priority-is-beating-android/
I got a good chuckle out of this. A friend of mine has a W7 phone so I've played with one before, but it's just not Android.
Best of luck to them, I'll never buy a Nokia anything, even if it ran Android, it sucks for W7 that they got stuck with such a mediocre and unimpressive phone maker.
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Are you serious? Nokia has excellent build quality and makes really slick looking phones. I see this merger as a way to dig themselves out of a hole. You apparently have never owned a Nokia.
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not a fan of wp7 or nokia.

gqstatus0685 said:
Are you serious? Nokia has excellent build quality and makes really slick looking phones. I see this merger as a way to dig themselves out of a hole. You apparently have never owned a Nokia.
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I have never owned a Nokia, but I've never seen one that really caught my eye. Who knows, I might buy one someday just to play with it.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
I have never owned a Nokia, but I've never seen one that really caught my eye. Who knows, I might buy one someday just to play with it.
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Ever seen the N900?

kinda looks like a brick... :O

nokia = respect
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DirtyShroomz said:
Nokia makes some friggin indestructible phones
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Too bad their business plans aren't as sturdy as their phones.
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DirtyShroomz said:
Ever seen the N900?
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I looked up some pictures and specs. Not bad. I could be wrong about Nokia phones but I've just never seen them as competitive. At least no so much as HTC, Motorola or Samsung. Even LG to an extent.
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To the people hyping, if Nokia went the Android route - maybe went the vanilla route as well - it could've been interesting. Don't hate. Will be interesting to see what happens ... but the direction was a bit surprising. And now to hype and even say "the #1 goal ... " is funny. Will be interesting, but what could've been would've been more so.

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it's coming!!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/cdma-iphone-in-engineering-tests-may-arrive-in-january-says-jo/
so how many closet apple fan boys will be jumping on this deal? if i could run android on it, i might consider but verizons prices are crap. i hope sprint has a good line up later this fall and next year because this if anything will hurt where it counts.
Galaxy S for Sprint will be out by then.
iPhones are overrated.
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Galaxy S for Sprint will be out by then.
iPhones are overrated.
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their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
I don't think Sprint is going to work with Apple, beacause of the "Total Equipment Protecction", Apple Iphone doesn't have that...
markus_del_marko said:
their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
derekwilkinson said:
Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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their gonna need something because by january the evo won't count as it will be as outdated as the hero. im not counting any wp7 garbage either because i talked to sprint and they aren't even sure if they will carry those phones. winmo is not a hot seller for them, android is.
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I don't think Sprint is going to work with Apple, beacause of the "Total Equipment Protecction", Apple Iphone doesn't have that...
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i wish these companies would allow the buyer to choose what service they want their phones on. i hope one day that will happen. example: id love to get the droid2 on sprint.
markus_del_marko said:
their going to need something more than a crappy samsung phone to even compete with that. sorry i had to say it!
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derekwilkinson said:
Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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Have you tried it out in a store? It's definitely different from Samsung's past attempts, in a good way. The Cortex processor is ridiculously fast, resulting in the smoothest Android experience I've seen to date.
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Yeah... Samsung's software is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible.
The HTC Desire is the closest competitor to the iPhone...
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The software is horrible, but the hardware is pretty good. The iPhone is popular because it's easy to learn and has more apps than any other OS. Oh, and guess what's in the iPhone. A Samsung processor.
No matter what Apple comes out with I will never get another one of their products. The thing that really sets Android from iOS and the iPhone is there is only 1 phone with iOS and there have been over 40 released android phones with atleast 12 more confirmed to be released and over 10 rumored phones.
I still believe that Android will out sale iPhone no matter where it goes.
Apple provides no freedom to its subscribers other than the reveled "App Store" that's about as varietal as it gets for them. No alternate phones to use, no alternate homescreen, GUI (unless jailbroken i suppose) just the same tried nd true iphone with a faeclift and some hardware changes from time to time some for the better, some for the worse lol. I love their PC's nd laptops but i will NEVER own an iphone.
If anyone here really has that big of a boner for the Iphone4 I'd be really suprised. It's not a bad phone but I just hate apple, and it doesn't do anything that the EVO or any other phone coming out can't do. I'd take an EVO over that any day. I'm android from here on out.
This video sums up this entire thread lol!!!
http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html
Its still the same iPhone4 just a new radio. As the Android Phones continue to evolve it will still be what is out right now.
I work with a bunch of people who all have Iphone's and talk amongst each other and it kills me, I think it's safe to say I'm an android snob. One could say that I think I'm better for owning an android phone and having it rooted. I might argue at first, but honestly I can't help it. Apple to me is like owning a prius, and Android is like owning ****ing Optimus Prime.
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I work with a bunch of people who all have Iphone's and talk amongst each other and it kills me, I think it's safe to say I'm an android snob. One could say that I think I'm better for owning an android phone and having it rooted. I might argue at first, but honestly I can't help it. Apple to me is like owning a prius, and Android is like owning ****ing Optimus Prime.
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Haha optimus prime. I actually have him as my lockscreen just cause i feel that exact same way. I wouldn't be surprised if I woke up in the middle of the night to find my phone in the backyard having a meeting with all the other local android phones on how they are gonna get rid of the iphones.
But seriously, I too feel the same way, I'm a college student and everyone rich kid and their parents have an iphone and think that they are so cool. All i can think when i see them, is my phone is better than yours. And i have a hero! a phone that in the rapid pace phone world, is obsolete.
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Apple provides no freedom to its subscribers other than the reveled "App Store" that's about as varietal as it gets for them. No alternate phones to use, no alternate homescreen, GUI (unless jailbroken i suppose) just the same tried nd true iphone with a faeclift and some hardware changes from time to time some for the better, some for the worse lol. I love their PC's nd laptops but i will NEVER own an iphone.
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And yet, i agree with this. While i would never own an iphone willingly, i do have a macbook and i couldn't be happier with it. I can do anything i want on it and it never fails me. No crashes, no freezing, no viruses. Nothing. Its solid.
But at the same time, i don't carry it around with me everywhere so everyone can see my macbook. I don't go sit in coffee shops just to surf the internet. I chose a macbook not cause it's the cool thing to have, but because I believed it was the best choice i could make. So I'm not an apple hater, I just think that if I'm spending a considerable amount of money on a tech device, it better work to its complete and full potential.
nutswillkillme said:
If anyone here really has that big of a boner for the Iphone4 I'd be really suprised. It's not a bad phone but I just hate apple, and it doesn't do anything that the EVO or any other phone coming out can't do. I'd take an EVO over that any day. I'm android from here on out.
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i used to hate android when it first came out, that's when winmo was the hot seller back in 2007-2008. yes it is the most popular os out there "right now" but im sure something will trump android in the near future. what im waiting to see is the next webos device.
If the iPhone was available for Sprint.... I would buy it. The only reason I didn't get one in the first place is because AT&T makes you pay out the ass every month. The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now. The only downside to iPhone is that you can't customize it as well as Android, but... you can put Android on the iPhone! Again, the iPhone is the best phone you can buy right now.
The way it looks now, HTC, Motorola, and maybe even Samsung and LG are going to all be putting out phones that will be directly competing with not only the iPhone, but each other also. That's cool that Apple busts out hardware that puts all these companies in there place for a minute, but on the software sides of things, I'll take Android any day. The nonstop onslaught of Android phones coming out makes me think the Iphone4 won't be on top hardware wise for very long. They seem to be up against almost every phone manufacturer now.
HeroMeng said:
If the iPhone was available for Sprint.... I would buy it. The only reason I didn't get one in the first place is because AT&T makes you pay out the ass every month. The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now. The only downside to iPhone is that you can't customize it as well as Android, but... you can put Android on the iPhone! Again, the iPhone is the best phone you can buy right now.
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i wouldn't buy one but id take one for free. verizon is pretty expensive too when it comes to it's plans.
HeroMeng said:
The iPhone 4 is the best phone on the market right now.
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Didn't think I've EVER see anyone say this on xda forums. But to each his own.
Still, !!

froyo ported onto iphone -.-

theres an app in cydia that installs froyo on iphones now... who would have guessed iphone owners would get froyo before us?! http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/11/how-to-install-android-on-your-iphone-using-bootlace.html
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it has many issues currently, I've seen many try, I even saw Ipads running on Froyo, but yet again with many issues.....
but it's a good option for iPhone users to run Android
yeaa when i read the headline i just made this face -___- lol
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Let's be rational. There's probably 10 to 20 times as many iPhone owners as there are X10 owners, which comes with it a proportional increase in people developing for it.
You'd have a better point if it said "Apple released Android 2.2 before Sony Ericsson did for the X10."
Did anyone watch the Engadget Show from October?
They made fun of the X10 again ".....for example Sony's phone, that came with, what.... 1.6?"
pngface said:
Did anyone watch the Engadget Show from October?
They made fun of the X10 again ".....for example Sony's phone, that came with, what.... 1.6?"
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nope, haven't seen anything like that...mmmhhh, but really, i love my X10 now that it's running 2.1, and i loved my X10 when it was running 1.6....it has this unique design which makes it actually look it a little more mature and sophisticated compared to the iPhone (no offence here, I had used an iPhone before I gave it to my girlfriend and bought an X10).....
besides, I think the fact that people are being eager to get froyo fully running on an iPhone somehow shows that they may not be completely satisfied with Apple's OS ;-)
just my 2 cents
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nope, haven't seen anything like that...mmmhhh, but really, i love my X10 now that it's running 2.1, and i loved my X10 when it was running 1.6....it has this unique design which makes it actually look it a little more mature and sophisticated compared to the iPhone (no offence here, I had used an iPhone before I gave it to my girlfriend and bought an X10).....
besides, I think the fact that people are being eager to get froyo fully running on an iPhone somehow shows that they may not be completely satisfied with Apple's OS ;-)
just my 2 cents
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trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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Did you miss this thread?
If you're serious about being angry that a company updates it's product line once a year, I'm kinda worried what's going to happen when you start looking at a new computer, camera, or television.
You've been able to install android off cydia for some time now. I know I did it on my iphone a few months back now. It is unusable though. There just aren't enough buttons on the iphone for it to work properly.
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Did you miss this thread?
If you're serious about being angry that a company updates it's product line once a year, I'm kinda worried what's going to happen when you start looking at a new computer, camera, or television.
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thats different, if se releases a new phone i wont care, i bought my phone online from at&t for 160 bucks and had it delivered to me, but when people freak out about the new iphone, wait in line for days, pay up to 400 bucks (credit cards only now, no more cash or debit will be excepted for newly released iphones), and then find out within a few months a newer better one is already being viewed by the fcc... well it gets a little frustrating
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Yeah, well, that's the Cult of Apple for ya. Pay them no mind, and at the same time, thank them. Without the iPhone, we wouldn't be playing with our X10s right now. They pushed smartphones into the limelight and pushed companies like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson to innovate!
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Yeah, well, that's the Cult of Apple for ya. Pay them no mind, and at the same time, thank them. Without the iPhone, we wouldn't be playing with our X10s right now. They pushed smartphones into the limelight and pushed companies like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson to innovate!
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yea the iphone itself is a great product, but its the limbo of purchases that kill me. look up new iphone, pre order, wait in line, drop half a grand on launch day, repeat, repeat, repeat
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trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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You may have overlooked this, but as I said, I had been using an iPhone (for two years) before I got an X10...hence, I totally agree with you...all that jailbreaking here, jailbreaking there, and thus only being able to fully "unleash the phone's power" (yeah, a little bit of sarcasm in there) if you jailbreak it, is just pure crap....always being scared of the next update which will probably make it more difficult or even impossible to jailbreak the handset is so freaking annoying - thus, android ROCKS! (no offence to people who use an iPhone btw, just to clarify) ;D
My wife's iPad is realy lucky because I would break it from the first days if it was mine. I love the machine I hate the OS.
If there is an option to install Android on it I would definetely give it a try.
Iphone froyo
I will never buy an iPhone no matter what os it is running.
My bros iPhone is horrible. 3G cuts out, its not smooth and GPS doesn't work properly 4 times out of 10.
Although FroYo will set those poor iPhone owners free!
these jokes are against SE and i aprove, they know that they'll suffer because of this .
Not all publicity is good publicity
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My wife's iPad is realy lucky because I would break it from the first days if it was mine. I love the machine I hate the OS.
If there is an option to install Android on it I would definetely give it a try.
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Haha, well said, well said indeed ;D
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theres an app in cydia that installs froyo on iphones now... who would have guessed iphone owners would get froyo before us?! http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/11/how-to-install-android-on-your-iphone-using-bootlace.html
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Who would of thought Apple fanboys would want to install Android on their mobiles.... Or is this just another attempt to prove a point?

Nokia on android = EPIC

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-stephen-elop-rallies-troops-in-brutally-honest-burnin/
so it appears that Nokia is no longer staying idle as their company loses huge margins in the cell phone arena. According to the above article there is a chance that they might join the android team!
IMO that would be awesome. Nokia "still imo" the best phone manufacturer out there. Faaaar superior to Motorola, HTC and Samsung combined. Their phones are always aesthetically pleasing and much more thought out than the *cough* dual screen phones coming.
While Motorola, Htc and samsung are decent phone manufacturers, I think if Nokia jumped ship then android would really be an unstoppable force.
EDIT
WE LOSE ):
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/exclusive-nokias-windows-phone-7-concept-revealed/
that is one sexy ass looking phone!
It could also be wp7 though. I believe one of their technology officers used to be a high up at microsoft before he went to work at nokia.
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It could also be wp7 though. I believe one of their technology officers used to be a high up at microsoft before he went to work at nokia.
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yeah I know... That would give wp7 a lot of leverage in the game since they came in late... I'm still hoping the at least get into the high end android game. I just love their phones soooo much. They do everything right except for the software.
Their 8mp cameras from 2 years ago are far superior to our 8 and 5mp's today...
If they do go android, even with part of their lineup, it would definitely push android over the top in os distribution! So that is who I am rooting for Don't they have some sort of shareholder conference or something this week?
I'd buy day one...best cameras, though their phones have been kind of ugly recently.
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If they do go android, even with part of their lineup, it would definitely push android over the top in os distribution! So that is who I am rooting for Don't they have some sort of shareholder conference or something this week?
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I'm not sure about that, but I know that the article I posted says that they will be talking about their new game plan February 11th. I'm assuming by then we may get a hint as if they will try and catalyze their own OS or jump on board with android/wp7...
The most recent nokia phone that I got to play with was the N8 and holy cow was that phone amazing. It was by far the most solid feeling phone that I ever held and the touch screen was superb. The software itself wasn't too shabby neither....
I really think that Nokia can utilize android to its fullest potential. The extent at which they polish their devices is remarkable.
a dual core nokia phone would be my dream come true.
I use to like nokia (minus the garbage battery locks), then they had to shut down all their factories in the us and move to china.
Screw them.
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they were great... over 10yrs ago...
but...
W7 needs help to get a jump start
nokia needs a huge savior...
looks like ...
microsoft will love to get an experienced mgfr to back them.
Nokia needs a new OS to plan thier future on...
both will most likely do anything to get love for the other....
match made in heaven!
but if they do get android.. that would be so great!!!
And they chose microsoft, go figure. lol

SGS2 vs IPhone 4

Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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Hm I would sell it and either wait for an iPhone 5 June/July or take the SGS II. It is just about your needs. Big hands and gorgeous screen --> SGS II
Most beautiful apps and polished and awesome build quality: iPhone
decide what you really need and then choose your phone. Making a list should be helpful =)
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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i like the iphone!
..but you're right
it is like comparing a spork with a drawer full of utensils
SGSII but since it's not out yet, Cappy all the way.
iOS and Android, I will pick Android.
Apple and Samsung, I will pick Apple.
Also.. the iPhone 4 screen shatters with barely a strong glance at the GLASS screen.
Don't mention the word Apple or iPhone on xda. The mentally challenged will come out and bite rabidly. A better place would be HowardForums.
I would sell the iPhone 4 if you are comfortable with an x10. A sealed box will sell for a good price. Then you can wait for the SGS2. The iPhone 5 probably won't be announced until June, which is quite a while. I wouldn't buy anything right now though, since the stuff on the market right now isn't really an upgrade from what you already have.
Notification drawer.
Checkmate.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion).
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Reality and personal opinion don't mix sadly. Anyway, depends what you mean by "hardware". Apple A4 was Samsung's Hummingbird, just with a lower clock and a slower GPU. Overall build quality may be better... until it falls and you're left with cracked glass all over the phone. Antennagate? Not sure about the much better now...
Software and integration is another story, that's where iOS definitely wins.
Papi4baby said:
Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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It's all relative to needs.
Sure, the iP is a pretty piece of hardware backed up but the brand fandom. everyone has it, everyone wants one.
As far as jailbreaking goes, the cat and mouse update/jailbreak game with apple gets old really fast... Every update of iOS patches something that dev team fixes and then they fix it and apple releases another update and .... you get the idea.
Jailbreaking every two months, playing with the unlocked baseband and risking ending up with a brick is no fun.
Personally I've decided to move away from every apple product, because apple doesn't necessarily have the greatest most advanced hardware, what they do have is massive marketing department with lots of talented people to make people want those devices (just look at apple product placement in the media).
In the end, it's a matter of usability, preference and what works for the individual; at this point in time, the iP4 is clearly outdated compared (hardware wise) to the devices coming out right now or in the coming month (Atrix, SGS2, etc...) and they will have had 6-7 months to prepare and get the iP5 design ready and produced by June-July-Sept with better hardware based on what they saw coming out from the competition at the CES and other events. By the time apple is done promoting their revolutionary iP5, Motorola, HTC and Samsuncg will have come up with somthing better based on the iP5 specs...
The cel phone war will never end, it will be the eternal peeing contest between large companies. As far as the consumer is concerned, we're just trapped in a vicious cycle we have created.
For me what weighs in, is the ability to have full control of my device. Therefore iP is a no go and thus a lesser device in my perception. Atrix was on top of the list until the Moto fiasco with the signed bootloader. The remaining option is the SGS2 depending on how easy it will be to update without relying on Samsung to do so.
On a side note, I've been using a iP3G since it came out and haven't upgraded the device, so I've been with it for almost 4 years; and seeing all these new android devices coming out everyday makes me hate it more day by day.
Android, for me, offers many more possibilities of growth than iOS will ever be able give me. I am not limited by a company as far as what I can do with the hardware that I hold in my hands.
I would rather take an operating system that is designed to let me do anything to it per my own needs and requirements than one that is marketed to the masses for mass consumption. There is nothing wrong with either, it is all preference. Apps fail to interest me as I have a busy and fun enough life to not care about too many of them In fact many people around me have pages of apps which i rarely see being launched except for the odd score checking/email app.
There is no point in comparison of the phone. In fact I would like it if Android makes its own features and chooses its direction instead of following iOS.
Well I would say to just use for a little while and see if you like it. If you do, great. If you don't, sell it.
Either way you could sell one now or keep both and sell both layer then the SG2 comes out.
Did anyone get the iPhone reference in Archer? I totally loled
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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Hello Pot, meet kettle.
Papi4baby said:
Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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LMFAO, There's sucker born every day...
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I love it when people say to get the iPhone if you just want it to work aand Android for customization.
If I do recall, I have never had any problems installing anything from the market on my phone; and everything else aalso just "works" along with more customization.
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Do we have a Smartphone or a Superphone?

Do you think our SGSII is a Superphone or Smartphone?
After reading this article on Techradar http://bit.ly/zkfg44 , I would suggest a Superphone.
Best bit of news, iPhone is definitely NOT a Superphone, no matter how hard they try
looks like techradar has been getting its money from Samsung recently
killall said:
Do you think our SGSII is a Superphone or Smartphone?
After reading this article on Techradar http://bit.ly/zkfg44 , I would suggest a Superphone.
Best bit of news, iPhone is definitely NOT a Superphone, no matter how hard they try
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We do have a superphone. You can customize it the way you want. You can make it faster the way you want..You can tweak it the way you want..What can you do with an iphone? Nothing really..Iphones are good and solid phones as i use to own one..But coming over to android i wished i made the move sooner.
Smartphone there is no such thing as a super phone until lots of people try to market it.
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i'm very satisfied with gs2 but after a few problems with video capture efficiency,
it is a bit disappointing.
There won't be a superphone until Apple releases something that they call a superphone.
And quit comparing this phone to an iPhone trying to make it look superior. If you are truly superior, you don't try to kick others down beyond reason.
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There won't be a superphone until Apple releases something that they call a superphone.
And quit comparing this phone to an iPhone trying to make it look superior. If you are truly superior, you don't try to kick others down beyond reason.
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Superphone has different meanings..For me my phone is a superphone. It does so many things compare to what i use to do with my iphone and i can customize it more beyond i ever could with my iphone so for me my phone is a superphone. But to say kicking others down beyond reason because i think my phone is better there you are wrong.
Comparing phones is nothing. Everyone does that..Just look at all the fanboys. And all the arguments with which is better..Android is iOS. That is silly with the way some people act. But you can never stop that no matter how hard you try. Regarding the issue here if i think my Galaxy is better. Yes it is. Would i go as far as having a debate with someone who has an iphone. No i wont as i do not see the point. The phone is for me to enjoy and if someone else does not value my opinion regarding my phone i do not care as i think it is the one for me..All i can give is give a recommendation and opinion.
SUPERPHONE
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I am not a fanboy so, it is a smartphone. I would term it super when I would not need a spare battery (upon heavy usage). BTW I am grateful that I can have one unlike some other phones where its inbuilt and nothing can be done about it.
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how about....
a JESUS PHONE!
btw, aren't they the same clowns that said gs2 is the device to get if you want "best" sound?
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how about....
a JESUS PHONE!
btw, aren't they the same clowns that said gs2 is the device to get if you want "best" sound?
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Says it all doesn't it..
Randomly I was thinking about this issue today... And I decided (in my own head) that iOS and WP7 are not smartphones, just clever feature-phones. Their limitations and walled-garden (iOS and to an extent WP7) stop them being classed as mini-computers (again, in my head!).
My definition is matched by the S2, with the main requirements (hardware-wise) being HDMI-out and WiFi keyboard/mouse, to give me the desktop experience at home, and (software) rooted Android. I realised last week that I never expect to need to spend money with Microsoft again, as Android has almost matured into a fully-fledged mobile/PS Operating System (with some caveats).
But I definitely agree with Princeomi, the final super-phone requirement for me is battery life of at least 48 hours of moderate/decent usage.
When I had a Nokia5800 that was a smartphone. Nokia5800 vs SII, SII kicks its ass with God power!
The SII its God's phone ahah
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A "superphone" is just another marketing term imo, and Techradar is generally full of BS.
Smartphone being a phone that runs a OS that is able to run 3rd party apps (distributed via package or via app store/market/w.e), will have a data modem, and lots of connectivity (wifi/bluetooth), normally means devices running android, WP7, IOS, BBOS, symbian (RIP) and even Winmob or bada.
Feature phone being a phone that has most of the features that one would consider a smartphone to have but without a real source of applications (eg phones running Qualcomm BREW) also doesn't normally cover phones that can only run java ME applets.
Feature phones are mostly dying, with android extending down into the space they normally filled between classic phones and smartphones.
Most of that was tl;dr but meh!
I think my phone is pretty Thuper.
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Randomly I was thinking about this issue today... And I decided (in my own head) that iOS and WP7 are not smartphones, just clever feature-phones. Their limitations and walled-garden (iOS and to an extent WP7) stop them being classed as mini-computers (again, in my head!).
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True, both can't even send files via Bluetooth or set an MP3 song as ringtone.
They don't have true multitasking, no expandable memory and no USB-otg features.
I think it's just a phone
If there's a phone that can teleport me in any place that i want, ill call it superphone.
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Am i the only one that saw a lot of sarcasm in that article?
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Am i the only one that saw a lot of sarcasm in that article?
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Yeh its loaded with it (non brits often have a hard time with sarcasm so gg ), basically the superphone idea was though up to make android or WP7 devices or w.e sound better than the iphone (ever changing definition that the iphone will never fit etc)

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