Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
rockingx10 said:
Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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Hm I would sell it and either wait for an iPhone 5 June/July or take the SGS II. It is just about your needs. Big hands and gorgeous screen --> SGS II
Most beautiful apps and polished and awesome build quality: iPhone
decide what you really need and then choose your phone. Making a list should be helpful =)
d3sm0nd said:
These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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i like the iphone!
..but you're right
it is like comparing a spork with a drawer full of utensils
SGSII but since it's not out yet, Cappy all the way.
iOS and Android, I will pick Android.
Apple and Samsung, I will pick Apple.
Also.. the iPhone 4 screen shatters with barely a strong glance at the GLASS screen.
Don't mention the word Apple or iPhone on xda. The mentally challenged will come out and bite rabidly. A better place would be HowardForums.
I would sell the iPhone 4 if you are comfortable with an x10. A sealed box will sell for a good price. Then you can wait for the SGS2. The iPhone 5 probably won't be announced until June, which is quite a while. I wouldn't buy anything right now though, since the stuff on the market right now isn't really an upgrade from what you already have.
Notification drawer.
Checkmate.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
Papi4baby said:
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion).
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Reality and personal opinion don't mix sadly. Anyway, depends what you mean by "hardware". Apple A4 was Samsung's Hummingbird, just with a lower clock and a slower GPU. Overall build quality may be better... until it falls and you're left with cracked glass all over the phone. Antennagate? Not sure about the much better now...
Software and integration is another story, that's where iOS definitely wins.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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It's all relative to needs.
Sure, the iP is a pretty piece of hardware backed up but the brand fandom. everyone has it, everyone wants one.
As far as jailbreaking goes, the cat and mouse update/jailbreak game with apple gets old really fast... Every update of iOS patches something that dev team fixes and then they fix it and apple releases another update and .... you get the idea.
Jailbreaking every two months, playing with the unlocked baseband and risking ending up with a brick is no fun.
Personally I've decided to move away from every apple product, because apple doesn't necessarily have the greatest most advanced hardware, what they do have is massive marketing department with lots of talented people to make people want those devices (just look at apple product placement in the media).
In the end, it's a matter of usability, preference and what works for the individual; at this point in time, the iP4 is clearly outdated compared (hardware wise) to the devices coming out right now or in the coming month (Atrix, SGS2, etc...) and they will have had 6-7 months to prepare and get the iP5 design ready and produced by June-July-Sept with better hardware based on what they saw coming out from the competition at the CES and other events. By the time apple is done promoting their revolutionary iP5, Motorola, HTC and Samsuncg will have come up with somthing better based on the iP5 specs...
The cel phone war will never end, it will be the eternal peeing contest between large companies. As far as the consumer is concerned, we're just trapped in a vicious cycle we have created.
For me what weighs in, is the ability to have full control of my device. Therefore iP is a no go and thus a lesser device in my perception. Atrix was on top of the list until the Moto fiasco with the signed bootloader. The remaining option is the SGS2 depending on how easy it will be to update without relying on Samsung to do so.
On a side note, I've been using a iP3G since it came out and haven't upgraded the device, so I've been with it for almost 4 years; and seeing all these new android devices coming out everyday makes me hate it more day by day.
Android, for me, offers many more possibilities of growth than iOS will ever be able give me. I am not limited by a company as far as what I can do with the hardware that I hold in my hands.
I would rather take an operating system that is designed to let me do anything to it per my own needs and requirements than one that is marketed to the masses for mass consumption. There is nothing wrong with either, it is all preference. Apps fail to interest me as I have a busy and fun enough life to not care about too many of them In fact many people around me have pages of apps which i rarely see being launched except for the odd score checking/email app.
There is no point in comparison of the phone. In fact I would like it if Android makes its own features and chooses its direction instead of following iOS.
Well I would say to just use for a little while and see if you like it. If you do, great. If you don't, sell it.
Either way you could sell one now or keep both and sell both layer then the SG2 comes out.
Did anyone get the iPhone reference in Archer? I totally loled
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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Hello Pot, meet kettle.
Papi4baby said:
Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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LMFAO, There's sucker born every day...
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I love it when people say to get the iPhone if you just want it to work aand Android for customization.
If I do recall, I have never had any problems installing anything from the market on my phone; and everything else aalso just "works" along with more customization.
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theres an app in cydia that installs froyo on iphones now... who would have guessed iphone owners would get froyo before us?! http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/11/how-to-install-android-on-your-iphone-using-bootlace.html
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it has many issues currently, I've seen many try, I even saw Ipads running on Froyo, but yet again with many issues.....
but it's a good option for iPhone users to run Android
yeaa when i read the headline i just made this face -___- lol
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Let's be rational. There's probably 10 to 20 times as many iPhone owners as there are X10 owners, which comes with it a proportional increase in people developing for it.
You'd have a better point if it said "Apple released Android 2.2 before Sony Ericsson did for the X10."
Did anyone watch the Engadget Show from October?
They made fun of the X10 again ".....for example Sony's phone, that came with, what.... 1.6?"
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Did anyone watch the Engadget Show from October?
They made fun of the X10 again ".....for example Sony's phone, that came with, what.... 1.6?"
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nope, haven't seen anything like that...mmmhhh, but really, i love my X10 now that it's running 2.1, and i loved my X10 when it was running 1.6....it has this unique design which makes it actually look it a little more mature and sophisticated compared to the iPhone (no offence here, I had used an iPhone before I gave it to my girlfriend and bought an X10).....
besides, I think the fact that people are being eager to get froyo fully running on an iPhone somehow shows that they may not be completely satisfied with Apple's OS ;-)
just my 2 cents
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nope, haven't seen anything like that...mmmhhh, but really, i love my X10 now that it's running 2.1, and i loved my X10 when it was running 1.6....it has this unique design which makes it actually look it a little more mature and sophisticated compared to the iPhone (no offence here, I had used an iPhone before I gave it to my girlfriend and bought an X10).....
besides, I think the fact that people are being eager to get froyo fully running on an iPhone somehow shows that they may not be completely satisfied with Apple's OS ;-)
just my 2 cents
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trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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fightingroost12 said:
trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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Did you miss this thread?
If you're serious about being angry that a company updates it's product line once a year, I'm kinda worried what's going to happen when you start looking at a new computer, camera, or television.
You've been able to install android off cydia for some time now. I know I did it on my iphone a few months back now. It is unusable though. There just aren't enough buttons on the iphone for it to work properly.
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Did you miss this thread?
If you're serious about being angry that a company updates it's product line once a year, I'm kinda worried what's going to happen when you start looking at a new computer, camera, or television.
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thats different, if se releases a new phone i wont care, i bought my phone online from at&t for 160 bucks and had it delivered to me, but when people freak out about the new iphone, wait in line for days, pay up to 400 bucks (credit cards only now, no more cash or debit will be excepted for newly released iphones), and then find out within a few months a newer better one is already being viewed by the fcc... well it gets a little frustrating
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Yeah, well, that's the Cult of Apple for ya. Pay them no mind, and at the same time, thank them. Without the iPhone, we wouldn't be playing with our X10s right now. They pushed smartphones into the limelight and pushed companies like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson to innovate!
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Yeah, well, that's the Cult of Apple for ya. Pay them no mind, and at the same time, thank them. Without the iPhone, we wouldn't be playing with our X10s right now. They pushed smartphones into the limelight and pushed companies like HTC, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson to innovate!
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yea the iphone itself is a great product, but its the limbo of purchases that kill me. look up new iphone, pre order, wait in line, drop half a grand on launch day, repeat, repeat, repeat
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fightingroost12 said:
trust me i had an iphone and the ios is just awful, jailbreaking isnt any better. Most jailbreak apps are real battery killers, and its hard to feel proud of your iphone when apple releases a newer better one every year, the iphone 4 is already lame and iphone forums are already discussing iphone 5 news and specs, thats just nuts
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You may have overlooked this, but as I said, I had been using an iPhone (for two years) before I got an X10...hence, I totally agree with you...all that jailbreaking here, jailbreaking there, and thus only being able to fully "unleash the phone's power" (yeah, a little bit of sarcasm in there) if you jailbreak it, is just pure crap....always being scared of the next update which will probably make it more difficult or even impossible to jailbreak the handset is so freaking annoying - thus, android ROCKS! (no offence to people who use an iPhone btw, just to clarify) ;D
My wife's iPad is realy lucky because I would break it from the first days if it was mine. I love the machine I hate the OS.
If there is an option to install Android on it I would definetely give it a try.
Iphone froyo
I will never buy an iPhone no matter what os it is running.
My bros iPhone is horrible. 3G cuts out, its not smooth and GPS doesn't work properly 4 times out of 10.
Although FroYo will set those poor iPhone owners free!
these jokes are against SE and i aprove, they know that they'll suffer because of this .
Not all publicity is good publicity
freco said:
My wife's iPad is realy lucky because I would break it from the first days if it was mine. I love the machine I hate the OS.
If there is an option to install Android on it I would definetely give it a try.
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Haha, well said, well said indeed ;D
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theres an app in cydia that installs froyo on iphones now... who would have guessed iphone owners would get froyo before us?! http://www.iphonehacks.com/2010/11/how-to-install-android-on-your-iphone-using-bootlace.html
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Who would of thought Apple fanboys would want to install Android on their mobiles.... Or is this just another attempt to prove a point?
So yeah.. seems like the iPhone 5 wont be announced until September.. which means SGSII will be safe for another few months.
I'm just joking.. or am i?
Iv just had so many problems with the SGSII... I just dont know what phone to get right now.. since the SII is the best out. I dont want to buy it again.
Iv never owned an apple product before.. but my brother has owned lots..
Wish they announced it so i could compare the two and see which one is the best
---- IF it is the SII then i might have to go back to it >.>... so i hope they do something good with the iphone
Fanboys gtfo thanks.
No phone is perfect but remember when you buy an iphone no flash, no flash, no flash...it's not that it's not possible to run run but apple have decided for you the user experience it just not good enough, you can't even try it for yourself and remove if you don't like it or keep it even if a half baked flash is good enough for you, nope apple have made the choice for you: no flash!
Expect to wait a while longer than september. The iphone 4 plus will be coming first with some minor improvements but no major changes.
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And you know it's not only that I dislike the apple mentality of them making the (right) choices for me I also despise apple as a company, I am a free market capitalist at heart and very seldom find companies evil but apple is one such rare company:
the way they abuse patents and trademarks (ie. steal ideas from small companies) and patent/trademark them and then sue the inventing company is truly evil.
I'm sick of my iPhone 4. I've been a hardcore blackberry user for years, and yes, while the experience wasn't as nice, it was A LOT more open than iOS. iOS has some good ideas, unifying a single format / layout, and all its apps follow the same guidelines, which makes it a good phone for people that know NOTHING about phones! A friend of mine DECIDES to pay THAT Much more for an iMac just because "it works right away, I don't need to configure anything" and Apple products are basically that... "It works without having to do anything" I personally jailbroke mine, and I still can't stand it. Apps apps apps apps! No personalization past ordering up the apps, and 2 pictures (lock screen and behind the apps).
I think Android will be safe for a very long time. They run on a different market. Not to mention, Apple sells things WAY over priced. The iPhone 4 16 gigs cost me the same RIGHT NOW as my SGSII (which should be here at ANYYYYY moment! Come on vodafone! It was shipped! GET TO MY DOOR!)
Apple makes good products for a good demographic, but you also need to understand that the majority of the population doesn't want to configure, or decide. The simpler the better. My BEST FRIEND of 15 years now has a blackberry and an iphone, still, she only texts and uses facebook. Hmmm....
Regardless, you shouldn't see it as "the SGSII is in danger or safe" as it's the family of Android phones. You don't see people saying "Oh no! The iPhone 3G is in danger! But there are 2 other models out! BUT POOR 3G!" No, who cares! more choices = better, for us!
Smartphones BEFORE the iPhone were pretty much all resistive screens, tiny ones, big and bulky. The iPhone has helped us out. The more Apple "revolutionizes" (AKA. taking something that has been there for years, making it pretty, and calling it new) the better for us!
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zkyevolved said:
Smartphones BEFORE the iPhone were pretty much all resistive screens, tiny ones, big and bulky. The iPhone has helped us out. The more Apple "revolutionizes" (AKA. taking something that has been there for years, making it pretty, and calling it new) the better for us!
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Really the first multitouch capacitive touchscreen build in 1972! when apple introduced it, they meant they dug it up from a grave and reanimated it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch
The only thing i dislike about andriod phones are that there are so many with lots of different specs.. I cant just download any app and use it right away. As for iOS there is only one phone each year that uses it.. which makes it more easy to download any app you want and use it right away.
I hate downloading apps just to find out that it crashes, lags or doesnt even start up.
I like andriod OS better then iOS.. but like i said.. there are too many phones using the andriod OS.
As for Macs.. yeah.. i think they are worthless. You pay so much more money for something that is less powerful than a custom built PC.
I built my PC a few months back and i also got a 27" 2560x1440 monitor (to match up with the iMac 27" screen)
It cost like £100 more for my PC but its 100times more powerful than any iMac.
Also.. the reason why the iPhone4 is still the same price is cause apple only lowers it once a new iphone comes out. They know that people will still forke out that much cash for an iphone.. unlike samsung nokia htc etc.. they always lower the price of their phones cause they just bring out so many per year that they have to.
I really don't think iphone5 would've affected SGS2 sales that much. I'm preety sure I5 will be a good phone but not better than SGS2.
I think Samsung s2 better than any iPhone
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I think Samsung s2 better than any iPhone
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your right.. its better than any iphone.. out right now... unless you can tell the future
My personal uneducated guess would be that the iPhone 5 will be a speed bumped iPhone 4 shipped along with iOS 5.
Which in the end, still doesn't make it better than the Galaxy S2 right now.
Do you really think people cross-shop iOS and Android? Apple people follow their leaders cult-like and keep re-purchasing Apple products. For people that want easy and consistent, nothing beats an iPhone. But those same two points, especially the second one, is what make people turn away. I for one can't stand the banal conformity of Apple products and can't see myself becoming one of the Borg. To test the theory, go to an iPhone forum and post a question about iOS vs. Android. They'll skin you alive.
If you are okay with a smaller screen, having to manage music,photos,video library via iTunes (having a mac helps ) then even an iPhone 4 is a nice choice.
It has unrivaled battery life, does everything its supposed to do pretty good, has enough apps to keep you busy (if you are a heavy apps user that is) etc.
Me, I couldn't get used to a 3.5 screen after using a captivate for a week, the itunes is horrible on my windows machine, drag and drop ain't bad and the retina hype is not enough to match the super amoled awesomeness....
Its all preference, IMO try your options if you can, and settle for what is good for you. I am here today because flashing my captivate and the screen plus music playback is awesome, and battery life after modded is almost on par with iPhone 4. So all good for me.
What you like may be hated or laughed at by another, and that's life.
i wouldnt be able to live with a 3.5" screen. There have been rumors that the new iphone will have atleast 4" screen.. if not then i wont even think about buying it.
My opinion: I don't think Apple will be releasing a mind-blowing, bar-setting iPhone 5 this year.
Perhaps next year, iPhone 6 will be.
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i wouldnt be able to live with a 3.5" screen. There have been rumors that the new iphone will have atleast 4" screen.. if not then i wont even think about buying it.
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Please don't forget that the iPhone is a device mainly targeted for the women crowd (can't remember where I read that over 70% of iPhone users are women). As such, it can't get bigger than 3.5" screen, since their small hands couldn't handle it.
Noam23 said:
Please don't forget that the iPhone is a device mainly targeted for the women crowd (can't remember where I read that over 70% of iPhone users are women). As such, it can't get bigger than 3.5" screen, since their small hands couldn't handle it.
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Hmm...Atrix 4G spots a 4" screen but the phone itself is about the same size as the iphone
i think the OP has made a decision that he should buy IPhone simply because he is fed up with one or two annoying features of SGS2.... is that true my friend ???
just because of 1 or 2 features which u might like it better on iphone, dont make ur decision of buying an iphone 5.... because no matter what, SGS2 can beat the iphone 5 right out of the box... in addition to that, so many customizations r coming including the CM7... which is great... u never feel the same as before...
so be patient & wait for some more time... then u give us ur openion... which inturn will be favouring SGS2 i am sure....
till then enjoy the positive things about ur SGS2....
One of the reasons why I moved from the iPhone 4 to the S2 is because every 2nd person I see has an iPhone 4, it was depressing.
And the inability to change notification sounds meant that whenever I heard the notification tone play, I had to second guess if it was my phone.
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My opinion: I don't think Apple will be releasing a mind-blowing, bar-setting iPhone 5 this year.
Perhaps next year, iPhone 6 will be.
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Until Apple decide to change the way they make their iPhones, android will still be way up top.
Even when iPhone 6 comes out, the SGS3 will probably be 2x better lol.
Also, the majority of iPhone users who purchase an iPhone don't even know what android can do/is capable of and assume iPhone will always be the best phone out...
I was going to buy an iPhone but the only thing appealing about is iTunes.
Lol.. debating with a friend on fb. Hoping someone can give me a good rebuttal i can paste in there from a dev standpoint and hand him his lunch...lol Couldn't copy the txt, so I took screen shots.
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Not sure why it didn't post, but this should have been the first pic...
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Not sure if this will work if your not a fb friend, but you could probably just go on there and post a comment....
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Android is open source and the hardware is in no way cheap unless you buy cheap phones. To take real android in account, use a galaxy nexus.
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The best thing for you to do is not argue with people who are overly indulged in their opinions. Whatever info you get, they'll counter it with some misc. B.S. It's better to just reply nicely with a smile .
Haters hate on smileys
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Android is open source and the hardware is in no way cheap unless you buy cheap phones. To take real android in account, use a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah, one of his posts he said he used one, and that it was just "fragmented garbage"
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He's right..Android is not a phone....it's thousands of phones as opposed to the iphone is but 1. As far as quality, I have dropped my phone 4 times on the hard tile of Walmart (stupid memo app for shopping lists) and barely a mark on it. My buddy is on his 5th iphone from each drop it shattered and killed the screen...there is your quality. But Masaidjet is correct, you can't argue with iphone fanatics...they already proved their mental state in their choice of a phone made for children to use.
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He's right..Android is not a phone....it's thousands of phones as opposed to the iphone is but 1. As far as quality, I have dropped my phone 4 times on the hard tile of Walmart (stupid memo app for shopping lists) and barely a mark on it. My buddy is on his 5th iphone from each drop it shattered and killed the screen...there is your quality. But M is correct, you can't argue with iphone fanatics...they already proved their mental state in their choice of a phone made for children to use.
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A friend of mines yesterday said BB's are better than Android phones new & old..... long story short he's no longer my friend.
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Pathetic iphone fan boy... you can't argue with those types. Just have pride YOU know what OS is better. =] as well as what phone is better... Its really pointless trying to talk a fanboy into thinking he's wrong...
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that...lol. Figure you guys would get a kick out of his responses though.
Here is a new one after I told him I was able to install third party apps out of the box...
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that...lol. Figure you guys would get a kick out of his responses though.
Here is a new one after I told him I was able to install third party apps out of the box...
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Ugh stop before I go on a fanboy onslaught.... this **** pisses me off. Dafuq he means better CPU/GPU let's see that pathetic iP5 compete with the gs3... idiot you don't gain **** jailbreaking... you get what cydia??? That's it.... =]
/endofrant
*composure*
Stop arguing with him... he is blinded and will never recover from the tragedy of iOS.
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Lol...good times! He did lol about how he enjoys these talks, because the android fans and isheep will fight to the bitter end about this stuff. Im no dev, so i cant get into it too deep with him
Frustrating and entertaining at the same time!
Edit: maybe I should just link him to this thread...
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Wish I could post something like this as a response in the fb thread...lol
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Jst remind him that steve jobs died.. that would make him cry and curse android as he crawls back under his rock
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"Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
^ THAT!
Why did you post this? All it did was piss me off.
1. Samsung made the iPad3s "revolutionary" display. They even project to buy billions in parts from Samsung this year.
2. My friend has an iPhone 4S. And the retina display DOES NOT look better. It's far more washed out and far less saturated. You can not even compare the colors even at stock values.
3. The hardware IS pushing limits. The iPhone 4S' 800MHZ dual-core processor is outdated. And comparing it to the Atrix, which came out March of 2011, it is. Does Joe not know that the One X just came out with a ****ing 1.5GHZ quad-core processor? The screen sizes are much larger, have higher resolutions, deeper colors, curved displays, and lets not forget Gorilla glass. How are they going to release the iPad 3 with a dual-core processor and still charge that price?
4. How is Joe going to talk about the quality of the iPhone? That's absolute babel. Anyone in their right mind would know making a cell phone out of glass and an easily shatterable display makes paying $399.99 for anything not worth while. You drop that four hundred dollar POS? IT'S BROKEN! The back will shatter! The screen will crack! What the hell is innovative about that?! "All manufactures are trying to do is catch up to the quality and hardware" ***** please. Android abandoned that disgusting look and feel loooong ago. We ***** slapped you with no buttons, we ***** slapped you with better hardware, and we utterly raped you with what Android can do compared to primitive operating system. Ubuntu for Android is the perfect example.
5. He misused fragmentation and clearly put invocation where innovation should go. His grammar and punctuation is awful in some spots, and his use of words he doesn't really understand is consistent. And please bro, don't ever jump on us about bashing you for stealing functionality. Apple invented that. Apple invented and maintains backstabbing tactics, and has successfully set back technology years. Please, read this. Because it would take me too much time to explain why Apple is the devil and why Steve Jobs deserves to burn in hell for all eternity.
6. **** jailbreaking! How DARE he compare that to rooting?! How DARE he think that could be anything like it in any way? Android out of the box can install 3rd-party applications. And that seems to be the only thing he could say about that! Android being open-source should be enough to shut him up about that, but because he is clearly so stupid and doesn't know any technological terms outside of the tech blog he must read, he is oblivious the the capabilities of Android. This guy must think Steve Jobs was truly Jesus.
People like this are the blight of the world. The only thing I hate more than Apple are the people using their products. Especially the ones who know nothing about anything technological. Android is the best mobile operating system hands down. Not because it's disgustingly simple and "easy to use", but because it's capable of doing far more than iOS could ever hope to do. Android being open-source allows it to do ANYTHING. Any feature in existence and every feature to be invented can be and will be brought the the Android platform. "From a developers standpoint, there is no comparison in my eyes." Anyone who knows anything about actual development has dumped iOS. Because whether you know it or not, Android has taken over the mobile platform. People have left iOS for cheaper, more durable, more powerful, and all around better platform. So if you want to delude yourself into thinking that iOS and Android are still comparable. go ahead, but you're only kidding yourself.
That....is epic!!! Love it! Sorry for stirring the pot today, but did get some lulz! You guys rock! Good stuff.
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And further to Darkie's rant; my buddy jailbroke 2 iPhones (4 and 4S) and both of them bricked. Had to pay Apple iGeeks a fortune to reload lousy OS. I can bring my phone back to Sprint and they don't give a flying rat's ass if its rooted or not.
Well, I hate to anger you guys further, but just got to my computer checking mail, FB, etc. And seen he commented again. I haven't been home for a while, so I have been yet to paste any of your responses there.
This is a long one too, but now I can cut and paste it.....
"It's always the same arguments. Citing 20 different phones, 100 different features, who has what first, etc.... It's the same on both sides of the argument. It all boils down to preference... Both sides will fight tooth and nail to make their points heard. But nobody can deny the fact that no matter what Android OS you're on, or what phone ( HTC, Samsung, Google, Motorola, etc ) they are never compared to each other or previous models, they are all compared to the iPhone. Since that is true, you gotta ask yourself, if Android is so much better regardless of manufacturer, then why? It's not apple or "iSheep" making these comparisons. It's rating companies, magazines, and media making these comparisons. The iDevices do, and always will stand alone. And every new phone will be compared to it. I don't think less of Android users... There is an argument to be made about anything. My personal preference is the iPhone ( being someone who as had and used both OSs and Android on several different platforms ). A lot of argument comes from people, and developers, who have never even owned an iPhone. Maybe just played with one in a store or tooled around on a friends. As iPhone users/developers/jailbreakers, we all agree that Apples restrictions to content is for the most part bull****. So to argue that one is better than the other from a downloadable content standpoint is valid. But I prefer the solid foundation that the iPhone provides. I think the OS is better implemented and that the hardware is superior to any competitor. Since I am able to jailbreak my device, I can install any software I choose, and again in my opinion is better than any content available in the Android Marketplace or on the stock Android OS. The rest is pure marketing. Are there pros and cons? Depends on what you need your device for. The simple fact is, Apples iOS is designed specifically for the iPhone. There are not 50 platforms. Android is open source so any manufacturer can add whatever feature sets they want to the OS. I think that's the biggest downfall, but that's how these companies sell their devices and try to set themselves apart from other manufactures. Android/Google don't care what features they add or what hardware manufactures install the OS on. The manufacturers pay to use the OS. Same with windows phones/computers. There is no quality control other than applications and software extensions have to meet minimum requirements to get licensing. All these manufactures have is themselves to compete with and usually offer up 1 "premium" model thats build to retail markup is ridiculous because for the most part, they use the cheapest commercially available hardware that meets spec sheet, not actual, performance standards. They put it all together in pretty cases with impressive looking feature sets then install a OS that was not designed to work on that particular hardware setup. Then they box it and ship it. That's why the UI is fragmented, but it's got a lot of appealing features that people gotta have. They tend to ignore the performance issues because they got all these bells and whistles on a 4 inch screen. Some features are useful innovations, but they come from developers outside of Google. Google buys software and implements it. Apple is not so open to outside development, but like Android, most of the innovative features were inspired from the developers in the jailbreak community and rewritten by Apple to work with the hardware. The point is, everything Apple is designed and implemented internally and each component is built by vendors to exacting specs. Much more quality control which produces a much more solid device. They have control over everything right down to the batteries and it is all designed with performance and durability in mind, they don't cut corners. The build to retail margins are much different... That's why they are more expensive and carriers are taking a hit selling them at contract prices even tho those prices are 2-4 times greater than Android based phones."
"Never argue with stupid people. They will bring you down to their level, and defeat you with their experience." -Mark Twain
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/19/apple-files-again-for-a-preliminary-ban-against-samsung/
Well..... Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, do you think this will have any effect on our update? Slow it down? Speed it up???
Why not go after the new one?
I hate Apple now.
Apple must have some pretty low self confidence if they are trying to ban their competition instead of trying to do what all the other companies do.. Make a better product.
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Apple must have some pretty low self confidence if they are trying to ban their competition instead of trying to do what all the other companies do.. Make a better product.
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Apple successfully tricked Samsung lawyers in to admitting that they, from their table, could not identify which tablet was which (iPad vs Galaxy Tab). Not only that but their tablet is far outselling ours.
Maybe Samsung needs to make a better product. Just saying.
I think if the iPad is outselling the Galaxy Tab 10.1, then all this is not even necessary. I just hope Samsung doesnt stop working on this tablet. The Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is out anyways.
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Apple successfully tricked Samsung lawyers in to admitting that they, from their table, could not identify which tablet was which (iPad vs Galaxy Tab). Not only that but their tablet is far outselling ours.
Maybe Samsung needs to make a better product. Just saying.
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If Apple wasn't afraid of Samsung, they wouldn't try to ban them from selling their products. And just because those lawyers work for Samsung, doesn't mean they use their tab, or any tab for that matter. So if they couldn't tell the difference, maybe they're just not tech savvy. To anyone who uses either tab, you can definitely tell the difference. Obviously they are going to look similar, they are both tablets. It's just like Samsung suing magnavox because their tv looks like a tv.. They all look the same. Can't do too much to make a tablet look different, other than change the color.
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I agree, apple stinks. Competition is good for development. Aplle has this self righteous attitude that they created everything. Then the stuff they do produce is not enough to supply the original demand. They think that they are this really cool club and only the lucky selected people can come in. Anyway, the suit is about slide lock, how petty!
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It makes sense. They already lost the phone war. They are trying to win the tablet war. So far the numbers are on their side but if they keep loosing sales it will be the same as with phones. They will be selling tabs to less than 40 percent of the tab buyers...
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joseamirandavelez said:
It makes sense. They already lost the phone war. They are trying to win the tablet war. So far the numbers are on their side but if they keep loosing sales it will be the same as with phones. They will be selling tabs to less than 40 percent of the tab buyers...
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How have they lost the phone war? The iPhone is the fastest selling handset in the world.
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How have they lost the phone war? The iPhone is the fastest selling handset in the world.
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Maybe he means this:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/05/16/samsung-leading-the-world-in-phone-sales/
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Panos_dm said:
Maybe he means this:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/05/16/samsung-leading-the-world-in-phone-sales/
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Ah, yes. People do like to group all of the handsets together to make it seem like Android/Samsung has an edge. Hurray for misleading information!
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How have they lost the phone war? The iPhone is the fastest selling handset in the world.
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TimOster said:
Better open newspaper. Samsung is the highest selling phone in the world, not Apple. Android is most used OS, not iOS.
I'd say that going to nearly 90% market share to in the high 30's today is loosing the war. But your opinion may vary
Tim
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Nope. The iPhone is outselling any handset Samsung is offering. Android has to group all their handsets together to make it seem like it's doing better, when in actuality if you look at this from a manufacturer point of view you start seeing their failures.
And we all know Android numbers are padded with tonnes of lower end crappy android devices.
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Nope. The iPhone is outselling any handset Samsung is offering. Android has to group all their handsets together to make it seem like it's doing better, when in actuality if you look at this from a manufacturer point of view you start seeing their failures.
And we all know Android numbers are padded with tonnes of lower end crappy android devices.
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You do realize there's more than one iPhone, right?
And if you hate Android so much, may I ask why you are on an Android developer forum?
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You do realize there's more than one iPhone, right?
And if you hate Android so much, may I ask why you are on an Android developer forum?
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I hate Android phones, not Android as a whole. I think Android belongs on tablets. My phone should be fast, powerful,and easy to use, with minimal crashing and issues. Hence the iPhone. But a tablet should be more like a PC, which is why I put up with a laggy tablet instead of an iPad.
Anyway, I'm not arguing about the OS itself. Just that the numbers are wrong. Only 1 person makes the iPhone and the iPhone 4S is outselling every other handheld out there. When you bring Android devices together they sell more, because there's like 1000 devices and a lot of them are cheap, low end ones that are appealing to people that want an iPhone, but can't afford one.
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I hate Android phones, not Android as a whole. I think Android belongs on tablets. My phone should be fast, powerful,and easy to use, with minimal crashing and issues. Hence the iPhone. But a tablet should be more like a PC, which is why I put up with a laggy tablet instead of an iPad.
Anyway, I'm not arguing about the OS itself. Just that the numbers are wrong. Only 1 person makes the iPhone and the iPhone 4S is outselling every other handheld out there. When you bring Android devices together they sell more, because there's like 1000 devices and a lot of them are cheap, low end ones that are appealing to people that want an iPhone, but can't afford one.
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I think you've seen the wrong Android phones. I own the galaxy s2 and have never had a single glitch, force close, nothing. I actually have a friend with the iPhone 4 who is always talking about how he wants my phone. It's all personal preference. And no, they're not comparing all Android phone sales to Apple. Samsung as a company has sold far more Android phones than Apple has iPhones.
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I hate Android phones, not Android as a whole. I think Android belongs on tablets. My phone should be fast, powerful,and easy to use, with minimal crashing and issues. Hence the iPhone. But a tablet should be more like a PC, which is why I put up with a laggy tablet instead of an iPad.
Anyway, I'm not arguing about the OS itself. Just that the numbers are wrong. Only 1 person makes the iPhone and the iPhone 4S is outselling every other handheld out there. When you bring Android devices together they sell more, because there's like 1000 devices and a lot of them are cheap, low end ones that are appealing to people that want an iPhone, but can't afford one.
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You're right, the 4s is outselling every other handset. Toyota (as a whole) is also outselling the Honda Civic (see what I did there). Your logic is nonsense, but if it makes you feel better about your phone then tell believe what you'd like.
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I think you've seen the wrong Android phones. I own the galaxy s2 and have never had a single glitch, force close, nothing. I actually have a friend with the iPhone 4 who is always talking about how he wants my phone. It's all personal preference. And no, they're not comparing all Android phone sales to Apple. Samsung as a company has sold far more Android phones than Apple has iPhones.
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I sell Android devices at work all the time instead of iPhones. Because we have an extra incentive on the high end Android devices. Galaxy S 2, Galaxy S 2 HD, Galaxy Note, HTC Raider/Evo, the new LG Optimus. And all I can see is crashes, laggy UI (even in ICS) and fragmentation issues. I don't want to wait months for an official update like we are with our Galaxy Tabs. Sure I could and have put on a custom ROM, but things are missing, not working, etc. Point being I prefer the speed and power of an iPhone and it's reliable updates. Nothing against Android. I just don't see it as a good phone OS yet.
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You're right, the 4s is outselling every other handset. Toyota (as a whole) is also outselling the Honda Civic (see what I did there). Your logic is nonsense, but if it makes you feel better about your phone then tell believe what you'd like.
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Nope. My logic is spot on. No other handset can beat it's sales numbers 1 on 1. I could care less about OS share.
L33t Masta said:
I sell Android devices at work all the time instead of iPhones. Because we have an extra incentive on the high end Android devices. Galaxy S 2, Galaxy S 2 HD, Galaxy Note, HTC Raider/Evo, the new LG Optimus. And all I can see is crashes, laggy UI (even in ICS) and fragmentation issues. I don't want to wait months for an official update like we are with our Galaxy Tabs. Sure I could and have put on a custom ROM, but things are missing, not working, etc. Point being I prefer the speed and power of an iPhone and it's reliable updates. Nothing against Android. I just don't see it as a good phone OS yet.
Nope. My logic is spot on. No other handset can beat it's sales numbers 1 on 1. I could care less about OS share.
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Well; of course it will. On one side you have the Iphone, by itself and singling out 1 Android device which competes against countless other Android devices & the iPhone. Not quite a fair comparison.
You might find this video interesting.
http://youtu.be/NMiY1kSTHZw
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Well; of course it will. On one side you have the Iphone, by itself and singling out 1 Android device which competes against countless other Android devices & the iPhone. Not quite a fair comparison.
You might find this video interesting.
http://youtu.be/NMiY1kSTHZw
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Why should we not compare them 1 on 1 for sales? iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S 2. iPhone sold more. iPhone 4S vs any other handset? iPhone hassold more. I don't get why everyone thinks it's such an accomplishment that Android has a bigger overall OS share. Low end devices that have bad life cycles and never get updated isn't my idea of how a phone or tablet should be. Hopefully we can get an Android developer who's on the ball with these things, making updates available quickly.
http://www.bgr.com/2012/07/24/iphone-5-galaxy-s-iii-demand-poll/
Interesting to see this
Love the comment by the guy saying he doesn't want the S3 because it's too big, yet he will be standing in line for the new iPhone.
I would go wit a iphone 5 jus for the resale value and the ios good there releasing to many android phones so after a month ur phone is old also the value on ur android drops so fast it's unreal
droid razr maxx
Resale value doesn't matter if you're not going to sell the phone. Still can't believe what people will pay for iPhones and macs, but to each his own.
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sirrdeezy said:
I would go wit a iphone 5 jus for the resale value and the ios good there releasing to many android phones so after a month ur phone is old also the value on ur android drops so fast it's unreal
droid razr maxx
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Wow! You write like an ignorant fool!
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sirrdeezy said:
I would go wit a iphone 5 jus for the resale value and the ios good there releasing to many android phones so after a month ur phone is old also the value on ur android drops so fast it's unreal
droid razr maxx
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You buy a phone based on the resale value? Not because of usability and your own liking?
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You buy a phone based on the resale value? Not because of usability and your own liking?
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I have iphone and I felt as tied, android makes me feel more free.
Buying a phone for the resale value is worse than the people who hold off on buying a new phone forever because the want to always have the top phone.
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Wow! You write like an ignorant fool!
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I dont care what u say all im saying jus lik a iphone u get tired of using ur droid phone especially when u c the next one and next one and next one coming out and then ur device is not getting the next update
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I dont care what u say all im saying jus lik a iphone u get tired of using ur droid phone especially when u c the next one and next one and next one coming out and then ur device is not getting the next update
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Does that really matter when Android 2.2 already has more functionality than iOS 6?
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I have a feeling this thread is going to get hectic
I'm will buy the iPhone 5 when it is available because:
- it is an iPhone
- it is the best device
- Apple is the best company
- iPhone is more expensive than other devices so it has to be better
- Everyone has an iPhone
- All the Actors, Actresses and Entertainers have an iPhone
- the iPhone is heavy and built strong
- it has a lot of apps
- people wait on long lines for the iPhone so it has to be the best phone or people wouldn't wait on the long lines
- the iPhone is indestructible
- I want to support Steve Jobs.
- it has the Apple logo which looks cool, and people known that I am Hip
- having one shows I don't follow the crowds, and am able to make my own decisions.
- the iPhone has basically remained unchanged for years, so it must be the best device, as other manufactures keep changing their devices because they are subpar.
- it doesn't have a removable battery or SD card because it adds weight and it's better not to have them. It makes the iPhone more indestructible,
- when Apple decides it is in the best interest of their customers to do so, Apple will make changes to the iPhone.
If I think of any more Great reasons to own the iPhone. especially the Great iPhone 5, I'll be sure to post them.
I hope the above reasons haven explained why the iPhone is the Best, and helps others to make their decisions based on these Facts.
Thank you.
UPDATE:
- I know people who have told me that they have accidentally went swimming with the iPhone in both the Pool and the Ocean. The iPhone continued to work without consequence. This means the iPhone is also Waterproof. Apple doesn't say this because of Liability reasons, But this is just Another reason to buy the iPhone. UNBELIEVABLE!!
Update #2:
- The iPhone 4s has been used by Astronauts to make phone calls and texts from the I.S.S.
Some of Astronauts have even been able to use Apps from the International Space Station.
They have even used Apple's GPS system to guide the Shuttle back to Planet Earth when the native system failed.
Simple Amazing!
Imagine what the iPhone 5 will be able to contribute to society!!
The iPhone....... Truly a Smartphone Above & Beyond the boundaries of Planet Earth!!
Now throw those Androids away, and pick up the iPhone 5 when it's made available!!
I coudn't resist
Galaxy S3 all the way! Had mine for a few weeks, rooted it, and put CM10 (Jelly Bean) rom on it. The thing is amazing! So snappy, battery life is excellent ~13.5hrs today with 30% left to go.
IMO, android allows more customization and cheaper apps (amazon market has free app of the day). I cannot agree with Apple's business model of f'ing the customer. They change the pin outs for their $80 chargers for every other generation purposefully to screw customers into buying more accessories. To be honest, that is the only thing apple products have going for them is quality of accessories.
Apple makes good products but they are not for me. I enjoy the freedom of open source and the abundance of the development community that android provides.
Anyone else get pissed when someone asks "Is that a Droid?" NO IT IS NOT! It's an ANDROID PHONE!
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It's a little silly to get upset at people who use Droid and Android interchangeably. Would be akin to being upset because someone confused your iPhone 4s with the regular iPhone 4 IMO.
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Galaxy S III. Pure Power. Android. well... its just pure Awesome! iPhones are all the same, their locked down, locked to apple services (itunes) and they just suck...
Biker1 said:
I'm will buy the iPhone 5 when it is available because:
- it is an iPhone
- it is the best device
- Apple is the best company
- iPhone is more expensive than other devices so it has to be better
- Everyone has an iPhone
- All the Actors, Actresses and Entertainers have an iPhone
- the iPhone is heavy and built strong
- it has a lot of apps
- people wait on long lines for the iPhone so it has to be the best phone or people wouldn't wait on the long lines
- the iPhone is indestructible
- I want to support Steve Jobs.
- it has the Apple logo which looks cool, and people known that I am Hip
- having one shows I don't follow the crowds, and am able to make my own decisions.
- the iPhone has basically remained unchanged for years, so it must be the best device, as other manufactures keep changing their devices because they are subpar.
- it doesn't have a removable battery or SD card because it adds weight and it's better not to have them. It makes the iPhone more indestructible,
- when Apple decides it is in the best interest of their customers to do so, Apple will make changes to the iPhone.
If I think of any more Great reasons to own the iPhone. especially the Great iPhone 5, I'll be sure to post them.
I hope the above reasons haven explained why the iPhone is the Best, and helps others to make their decisions based on these Facts.
Thank you.
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I cant believe you just listed every reason why you follow the crowds and then ended the list with because I dont follow the crowds.
I think iphone is gonna outsell the ****ty gs3 with hardware buton in 2012 by 5 times.
What do you guys think?
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Kibrisli7 said:
I cant believe you just listed every reason why you follow the crowds and then ended the list with because I dont follow the crowds.
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*cough*it was sarcasm*cough*
See his signature lolololol
I'm will buy the iPhone 5 when it is available because:
- it is an iPhone
- it is the best device
- Apple is the best company
- iPhone is more expensive than other devices so it has to be better
- Everyone has an iPhone
- All the Actors, Actresses and Entertainers have an iPhone
- the iPhone is heavy and built strong
- it has a lot of apps
- people wait on long lines for the iPhone so it has to be the best phone or people wouldn't wait on the long lines
- the iPhone is indestructible
- I want to support Steve Jobs.
- it has the Apple logo which looks cool, and people known that I am Hip
- having one shows I don't follow the crowds, and am able to make my own decisions.
- the iPhone has basically remained unchanged for years, so it must be the best device, as other manufactures keep changing their devices because they are subpar.
- it doesn't have a removable battery or SD card because it adds weight and it's better not to have them. It makes the iPhone more indestructible,
- when Apple decides it is in the best interest of their customers to do so, Apple will make changes to the iPhone.
If I think of any more Great reasons to own the iPhone. especially the Great iPhone 5, I'll be sure to post them.
I hope the above reasons haven explained why the iPhone is the Best, and helps others to make their decisions based on these Facts.
Thank you.
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Wow what a sheep
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I would buy an iPhone because I am simply a fool, who knows absolutely nothing about phones, and assume everything with an Apple logo on it is the best. Oh, and I also like paying alot more money for something than I should < Your average iDevice owner
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