Do you think our SGSII is a Superphone or Smartphone?
After reading this article on Techradar http://bit.ly/zkfg44 , I would suggest a Superphone.
Best bit of news, iPhone is definitely NOT a Superphone, no matter how hard they try
looks like techradar has been getting its money from Samsung recently
killall said:
Do you think our SGSII is a Superphone or Smartphone?
After reading this article on Techradar http://bit.ly/zkfg44 , I would suggest a Superphone.
Best bit of news, iPhone is definitely NOT a Superphone, no matter how hard they try
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We do have a superphone. You can customize it the way you want. You can make it faster the way you want..You can tweak it the way you want..What can you do with an iphone? Nothing really..Iphones are good and solid phones as i use to own one..But coming over to android i wished i made the move sooner.
Smartphone there is no such thing as a super phone until lots of people try to market it.
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i'm very satisfied with gs2 but after a few problems with video capture efficiency,
it is a bit disappointing.
There won't be a superphone until Apple releases something that they call a superphone.
And quit comparing this phone to an iPhone trying to make it look superior. If you are truly superior, you don't try to kick others down beyond reason.
meranto said:
There won't be a superphone until Apple releases something that they call a superphone.
And quit comparing this phone to an iPhone trying to make it look superior. If you are truly superior, you don't try to kick others down beyond reason.
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Superphone has different meanings..For me my phone is a superphone. It does so many things compare to what i use to do with my iphone and i can customize it more beyond i ever could with my iphone so for me my phone is a superphone. But to say kicking others down beyond reason because i think my phone is better there you are wrong.
Comparing phones is nothing. Everyone does that..Just look at all the fanboys. And all the arguments with which is better..Android is iOS. That is silly with the way some people act. But you can never stop that no matter how hard you try. Regarding the issue here if i think my Galaxy is better. Yes it is. Would i go as far as having a debate with someone who has an iphone. No i wont as i do not see the point. The phone is for me to enjoy and if someone else does not value my opinion regarding my phone i do not care as i think it is the one for me..All i can give is give a recommendation and opinion.
SUPERPHONE
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I am not a fanboy so, it is a smartphone. I would term it super when I would not need a spare battery (upon heavy usage). BTW I am grateful that I can have one unlike some other phones where its inbuilt and nothing can be done about it.
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how about....
a JESUS PHONE!
btw, aren't they the same clowns that said gs2 is the device to get if you want "best" sound?
s2d4 said:
how about....
a JESUS PHONE!
btw, aren't they the same clowns that said gs2 is the device to get if you want "best" sound?
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Says it all doesn't it..
Randomly I was thinking about this issue today... And I decided (in my own head) that iOS and WP7 are not smartphones, just clever feature-phones. Their limitations and walled-garden (iOS and to an extent WP7) stop them being classed as mini-computers (again, in my head!).
My definition is matched by the S2, with the main requirements (hardware-wise) being HDMI-out and WiFi keyboard/mouse, to give me the desktop experience at home, and (software) rooted Android. I realised last week that I never expect to need to spend money with Microsoft again, as Android has almost matured into a fully-fledged mobile/PS Operating System (with some caveats).
But I definitely agree with Princeomi, the final super-phone requirement for me is battery life of at least 48 hours of moderate/decent usage.
When I had a Nokia5800 that was a smartphone. Nokia5800 vs SII, SII kicks its ass with God power!
The SII its God's phone ahah
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A "superphone" is just another marketing term imo, and Techradar is generally full of BS.
Smartphone being a phone that runs a OS that is able to run 3rd party apps (distributed via package or via app store/market/w.e), will have a data modem, and lots of connectivity (wifi/bluetooth), normally means devices running android, WP7, IOS, BBOS, symbian (RIP) and even Winmob or bada.
Feature phone being a phone that has most of the features that one would consider a smartphone to have but without a real source of applications (eg phones running Qualcomm BREW) also doesn't normally cover phones that can only run java ME applets.
Feature phones are mostly dying, with android extending down into the space they normally filled between classic phones and smartphones.
Most of that was tl;dr but meh!
I think my phone is pretty Thuper.
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Randomly I was thinking about this issue today... And I decided (in my own head) that iOS and WP7 are not smartphones, just clever feature-phones. Their limitations and walled-garden (iOS and to an extent WP7) stop them being classed as mini-computers (again, in my head!).
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True, both can't even send files via Bluetooth or set an MP3 song as ringtone.
They don't have true multitasking, no expandable memory and no USB-otg features.
I think it's just a phone
If there's a phone that can teleport me in any place that i want, ill call it superphone.
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Am i the only one that saw a lot of sarcasm in that article?
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Am i the only one that saw a lot of sarcasm in that article?
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Yeh its loaded with it (non brits often have a hard time with sarcasm so gg ), basically the superphone idea was though up to make android or WP7 devices or w.e sound better than the iphone (ever changing definition that the iphone will never fit etc)
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Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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Hello guys my carrier is sending me an iPhone 4 but I can't decide to keep it or sell it and buy Sgs2? Cause I had lots of bad experience with apple before. And have x10 now that I'm happy with but want something better and new.
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Hm I would sell it and either wait for an iPhone 5 June/July or take the SGS II. It is just about your needs. Big hands and gorgeous screen --> SGS II
Most beautiful apps and polished and awesome build quality: iPhone
decide what you really need and then choose your phone. Making a list should be helpful =)
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i like the iphone!
..but you're right
it is like comparing a spork with a drawer full of utensils
SGSII but since it's not out yet, Cappy all the way.
iOS and Android, I will pick Android.
Apple and Samsung, I will pick Apple.
Also.. the iPhone 4 screen shatters with barely a strong glance at the GLASS screen.
Don't mention the word Apple or iPhone on xda. The mentally challenged will come out and bite rabidly. A better place would be HowardForums.
I would sell the iPhone 4 if you are comfortable with an x10. A sealed box will sell for a good price. Then you can wait for the SGS2. The iPhone 5 probably won't be announced until June, which is quite a while. I wouldn't buy anything right now though, since the stuff on the market right now isn't really an upgrade from what you already have.
Notification drawer.
Checkmate.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion).
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Reality and personal opinion don't mix sadly. Anyway, depends what you mean by "hardware". Apple A4 was Samsung's Hummingbird, just with a lower clock and a slower GPU. Overall build quality may be better... until it falls and you're left with cracked glass all over the phone. Antennagate? Not sure about the much better now...
Software and integration is another story, that's where iOS definitely wins.
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Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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It's all relative to needs.
Sure, the iP is a pretty piece of hardware backed up but the brand fandom. everyone has it, everyone wants one.
As far as jailbreaking goes, the cat and mouse update/jailbreak game with apple gets old really fast... Every update of iOS patches something that dev team fixes and then they fix it and apple releases another update and .... you get the idea.
Jailbreaking every two months, playing with the unlocked baseband and risking ending up with a brick is no fun.
Personally I've decided to move away from every apple product, because apple doesn't necessarily have the greatest most advanced hardware, what they do have is massive marketing department with lots of talented people to make people want those devices (just look at apple product placement in the media).
In the end, it's a matter of usability, preference and what works for the individual; at this point in time, the iP4 is clearly outdated compared (hardware wise) to the devices coming out right now or in the coming month (Atrix, SGS2, etc...) and they will have had 6-7 months to prepare and get the iP5 design ready and produced by June-July-Sept with better hardware based on what they saw coming out from the competition at the CES and other events. By the time apple is done promoting their revolutionary iP5, Motorola, HTC and Samsuncg will have come up with somthing better based on the iP5 specs...
The cel phone war will never end, it will be the eternal peeing contest between large companies. As far as the consumer is concerned, we're just trapped in a vicious cycle we have created.
For me what weighs in, is the ability to have full control of my device. Therefore iP is a no go and thus a lesser device in my perception. Atrix was on top of the list until the Moto fiasco with the signed bootloader. The remaining option is the SGS2 depending on how easy it will be to update without relying on Samsung to do so.
On a side note, I've been using a iP3G since it came out and haven't upgraded the device, so I've been with it for almost 4 years; and seeing all these new android devices coming out everyday makes me hate it more day by day.
Android, for me, offers many more possibilities of growth than iOS will ever be able give me. I am not limited by a company as far as what I can do with the hardware that I hold in my hands.
I would rather take an operating system that is designed to let me do anything to it per my own needs and requirements than one that is marketed to the masses for mass consumption. There is nothing wrong with either, it is all preference. Apps fail to interest me as I have a busy and fun enough life to not care about too many of them In fact many people around me have pages of apps which i rarely see being launched except for the odd score checking/email app.
There is no point in comparison of the phone. In fact I would like it if Android makes its own features and chooses its direction instead of following iOS.
Well I would say to just use for a little while and see if you like it. If you do, great. If you don't, sell it.
Either way you could sell one now or keep both and sell both layer then the SG2 comes out.
Did anyone get the iPhone reference in Archer? I totally loled
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These two devices are not to compare... iPhone is ****.
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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I agree. That's funny though. I actually just walked past a group of people with iPads and I just thought to myself, man, these people just have no idea. Well you know what they say, ignorance is idiocy, oops, I mean bliss.
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Hello Pot, meet kettle.
Papi4baby said:
Wow.
Where's the ignore button.
OP, if you like the SGS2 then wait for it, or wait for iP5 see what apple puts out.
I am doing that right now, between SGS2 or iP5.
Most of the stuff you will get here is android fans, but in reality apple has much better hardware than anything on android (my opinion). The OS, well they are pretty similar, if you want your phone to just work apple all the way, if you want to customized then go android.
Just be aware that iPhone can also be customized by jailbreaking.
I have a 3GS that's almost 2 years old and it's working as good as day one.
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LMFAO, There's sucker born every day...
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I love it when people say to get the iPhone if you just want it to work aand Android for customization.
If I do recall, I have never had any problems installing anything from the market on my phone; and everything else aalso just "works" along with more customization.
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Hello Pot, meet kettle.
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Hi guys, I made this list comparying the 2 in software and hardware, feal free to add things or fix things
Galaxy S2
Hardware Pros
Bigger screen
More colourful screen
Brighter Screen
Better viewing angles
Micro SD
FM Radio
Slimmer
Lighter
More Durable
4G ready
More buttons
Double Ram
NFC
Wi-Fi direct
DLNA
USB On-the-go
Better front facing camera
Removable battery
Software ICS Pros
Hundreds of Widgets
MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264/H.263 player
MP3/WAV/eAAC+/AC3/FLAC player
Play all Zip files
Download torrents
Flash
Never have to hack
Face unlock
Android Beam?
Speech to txt
Live wallpapers
True multitasking
More video/picture editing
Panorama shooting
Instant camera shooting
Data usage monitor
Better search
Most advanced texting/ calling features
3rd Party video/audio players
3rd party browsers
Customizable keyboards
IPhone 4S
Hardware Pros
High res screen
better battery life
Software Pros
Siri
Smoother
More apps
I don't get what the point is of all these VS threads?? but the GPU in the 4S is better they say
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funny but true
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I don't get what the point is of all these VS threads??
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im trying to convince my freind who is in the Apple Matrix to see the truth
Siri is a con. Siri are for fanboys who love their phones so much that they have no friends. I picture Siri causing mental illness
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im trying to convince my freind who is in the Apple Matrix to see the truth
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If he's a true Apple Fanboy you'll never convince him. They're blinded by the Apple marketing machine which tells them what to buy and when to buy it. As long as you realise iOS is a pOS that's all that matters!
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If he's a true Apple Fanboy you'll never convince him. They're blinded by the Apple marketing machine which tells them what to buy and when to buy it. As long as you realise iOS is a pOS that's all that matters!
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Haha very true! Recently one of my colleague bought TWO iPhone 4Ss (one for him and another for his wife!). He was boosting like he has got a gold mine before I told him about GS2. He started telling that some Chinese phones even have TV tuners
I couldn't stop laughing at his ignorance that he was comparing SGS phones to Chinese replicas! Realized that he is just a small kid who never BOTHERED exploring the market to understand what he is going for. Thats what I call true iPhonetic!
I used to be an Apple fan, then I took an arrow to the knee.
Seriously tho, it won't be long till alot of them realize Android is the real king.
Thinking on tbh I'm glad people are Apple fan boys who are blinded by the fruit because we as a community of Androidians would never be the same. Aka - We dont want dipshits on our hype.
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NatTheCat said:
I used to be an Apple fan, then I took an arrow to the knee.
Seriously tho, it won't be long till alot of them realize Android is the real king.
Thinking on tbh I'm glad people are Apple fan boys who are blinded by the fruit because we as a community of Androidians would never be the same. Aka - We dont want dipshits on our hype.
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Have you been around here lately? We already have dipshits all over the place. We need the dip**** terminator. Where is Arnold when you need him?
For all you Android fanboys - stop trying to prove a point. Android is good for people who want control over their device and aren't afraid to tinker with stuff. iOS is good for people who don't care, and just want their phone to work straight out of the box.
Android is getting more intuitive with ICS, but its still not as intuitive for new users as iOS. Deal with it. I absolutely love my SGS2 and Android, but I'm not about to fool myself (or anyone else) that Android is right for everyone.
What he said ^^^
I still have a 3gs which my sis gave me. I still play with games and use it as an ipod, also it can be used as an emergency fone ( you dont say!). Iphones are more fitted to people who just want a phone that works, games, entertainment. Android phones are for people who isn't afraid to muck around with their ****s. iOS and Android are both equally good and fitted for different purpose.
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What he said ^^^
I still have a 3gs which my sis gave me. I still play with games and use it as an ipod, also it can be used as an emergency fone ( you dont say!). Iphones are more fitted to people who just want a phone that works, games, entertainment. Android phones are for people who isn't afraid to muck around with their ****s. iOS and Android are both equally good and fitted for different purpose.
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no u are weeek!!! the war must go on!!!!!!!!!
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no u are weeek!!! the war must go on!!!!!!!!!
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Chill dude If your friend is an Apple sheep to an incurable level, I would just give up on it and let him get the iPhone 4S, then show all the cool ****s that we get from XDA to him
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Have you been around here lately? We already have dipshits all over the place. We need the dip**** terminator. Where is Arnold when you need him?
For all you Android fanboys - stop trying to prove a point. Android is good for people who want control over their device and aren't afraid to tinker with stuff. iOS is good for people who don't care, and just want their phone to work straight out of the box.
Android is getting more intuitive with ICS, but its still not as intuitive for new users as iOS. Deal with it. I absolutely love my SGS2 and Android, but I'm not about to fool myself (or anyone else) that Android is right for everyone.
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+1. Best comment on here. Stock galaxy s2 has nothing on a stock(not jail broken) ip4s. But im into tinkering thats why the iphone isnt for me.
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
Iphone is the best smartphone in the world. Even the first iphone is much faster and smoother than the cheap plasticky SGSII. Glass is much more stronger even than titanium, and much costlier, that's why other manufacturers don't afford to use it.
Previous iphone had the 4G's, the Wi-Fis and sh!t and was cool, any fool can realize that the new iphone has 4Ses and not just 2 as the Galaxy, hence is twice as faster!
Android not good, it's only for rocket scientists.
Just to call someone you need to read "Android for Dummies, 3rd Edition" - chapter 10 "How can I make a phone call" and then read FAQ section: "How do I end a phone call".
Installing an app is covered in Chapter 45, Section 18 - screen by screen instructions with drawings.
iPhones are more of a status symbol than anything else. Apple give you a phone with pretty basic features and you will love it because it has a little badge on it. Samsung give you a phone with the capabilities of a mid-range PC. I'm not for or against both, I own a PC and a Mac, an S2 and an iPad. It's personal preference at the end of the day.
If anyone knows of a Winterboard equivalent for Android please let me know!
i know this has been posted before, but it pretty much sums it up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xo3hFEWScA
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i know this has been posted before, but it pretty much sums it up...
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Never seen that before, i'm pissing myself with laughter here!
who the hell uses siri anyways i have about 6 friends that have iphones but don't use siri that much or at all.
As much as your Market is improving, I still think that is has a long way to go before it can reach the likes of the app store in term of quality! In term of quantity it's there but the apps on IOS are so much F***ING BETTER!!!
It puzzles me why when ever somebody starts a discussion like this a bunch of apple fanboys show up? Are you patrolling the internet looking for somebody who might insult your beloved icon?
Besides, what are you doing at xda in the first place. This is a forum for modders apple does not want you to do such things...
Lol.. debating with a friend on fb. Hoping someone can give me a good rebuttal i can paste in there from a dev standpoint and hand him his lunch...lol Couldn't copy the txt, so I took screen shots.
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Not sure why it didn't post, but this should have been the first pic...
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Not sure if this will work if your not a fb friend, but you could probably just go on there and post a comment....
http://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3049399597356&id=1334203680&set=a.1083637414530.2011328.1334203680&__user=1628373668
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Android is open source and the hardware is in no way cheap unless you buy cheap phones. To take real android in account, use a galaxy nexus.
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The best thing for you to do is not argue with people who are overly indulged in their opinions. Whatever info you get, they'll counter it with some misc. B.S. It's better to just reply nicely with a smile .
Haters hate on smileys
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Android is open source and the hardware is in no way cheap unless you buy cheap phones. To take real android in account, use a galaxy nexus.
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Yeah, one of his posts he said he used one, and that it was just "fragmented garbage"
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He's right..Android is not a phone....it's thousands of phones as opposed to the iphone is but 1. As far as quality, I have dropped my phone 4 times on the hard tile of Walmart (stupid memo app for shopping lists) and barely a mark on it. My buddy is on his 5th iphone from each drop it shattered and killed the screen...there is your quality. But Masaidjet is correct, you can't argue with iphone fanatics...they already proved their mental state in their choice of a phone made for children to use.
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He's right..Android is not a phone....it's thousands of phones as opposed to the iphone is but 1. As far as quality, I have dropped my phone 4 times on the hard tile of Walmart (stupid memo app for shopping lists) and barely a mark on it. My buddy is on his 5th iphone from each drop it shattered and killed the screen...there is your quality. But M is correct, you can't argue with iphone fanatics...they already proved their mental state in their choice of a phone made for children to use.
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A friend of mines yesterday said BB's are better than Android phones new & old..... long story short he's no longer my friend.
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Pathetic iphone fan boy... you can't argue with those types. Just have pride YOU know what OS is better. =] as well as what phone is better... Its really pointless trying to talk a fanboy into thinking he's wrong...
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that...lol. Figure you guys would get a kick out of his responses though.
Here is a new one after I told him I was able to install third party apps out of the box...
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Yeah, I'm starting to realize that...lol. Figure you guys would get a kick out of his responses though.
Here is a new one after I told him I was able to install third party apps out of the box...
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Ugh stop before I go on a fanboy onslaught.... this **** pisses me off. Dafuq he means better CPU/GPU let's see that pathetic iP5 compete with the gs3... idiot you don't gain **** jailbreaking... you get what cydia??? That's it.... =]
/endofrant
*composure*
Stop arguing with him... he is blinded and will never recover from the tragedy of iOS.
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Lol...good times! He did lol about how he enjoys these talks, because the android fans and isheep will fight to the bitter end about this stuff. Im no dev, so i cant get into it too deep with him
Frustrating and entertaining at the same time!
Edit: maybe I should just link him to this thread...
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Wish I could post something like this as a response in the fb thread...lol
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Jst remind him that steve jobs died.. that would make him cry and curse android as he crawls back under his rock
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"Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
^ THAT!
Why did you post this? All it did was piss me off.
1. Samsung made the iPad3s "revolutionary" display. They even project to buy billions in parts from Samsung this year.
2. My friend has an iPhone 4S. And the retina display DOES NOT look better. It's far more washed out and far less saturated. You can not even compare the colors even at stock values.
3. The hardware IS pushing limits. The iPhone 4S' 800MHZ dual-core processor is outdated. And comparing it to the Atrix, which came out March of 2011, it is. Does Joe not know that the One X just came out with a ****ing 1.5GHZ quad-core processor? The screen sizes are much larger, have higher resolutions, deeper colors, curved displays, and lets not forget Gorilla glass. How are they going to release the iPad 3 with a dual-core processor and still charge that price?
4. How is Joe going to talk about the quality of the iPhone? That's absolute babel. Anyone in their right mind would know making a cell phone out of glass and an easily shatterable display makes paying $399.99 for anything not worth while. You drop that four hundred dollar POS? IT'S BROKEN! The back will shatter! The screen will crack! What the hell is innovative about that?! "All manufactures are trying to do is catch up to the quality and hardware" ***** please. Android abandoned that disgusting look and feel loooong ago. We ***** slapped you with no buttons, we ***** slapped you with better hardware, and we utterly raped you with what Android can do compared to primitive operating system. Ubuntu for Android is the perfect example.
5. He misused fragmentation and clearly put invocation where innovation should go. His grammar and punctuation is awful in some spots, and his use of words he doesn't really understand is consistent. And please bro, don't ever jump on us about bashing you for stealing functionality. Apple invented that. Apple invented and maintains backstabbing tactics, and has successfully set back technology years. Please, read this. Because it would take me too much time to explain why Apple is the devil and why Steve Jobs deserves to burn in hell for all eternity.
6. **** jailbreaking! How DARE he compare that to rooting?! How DARE he think that could be anything like it in any way? Android out of the box can install 3rd-party applications. And that seems to be the only thing he could say about that! Android being open-source should be enough to shut him up about that, but because he is clearly so stupid and doesn't know any technological terms outside of the tech blog he must read, he is oblivious the the capabilities of Android. This guy must think Steve Jobs was truly Jesus.
People like this are the blight of the world. The only thing I hate more than Apple are the people using their products. Especially the ones who know nothing about anything technological. Android is the best mobile operating system hands down. Not because it's disgustingly simple and "easy to use", but because it's capable of doing far more than iOS could ever hope to do. Android being open-source allows it to do ANYTHING. Any feature in existence and every feature to be invented can be and will be brought the the Android platform. "From a developers standpoint, there is no comparison in my eyes." Anyone who knows anything about actual development has dumped iOS. Because whether you know it or not, Android has taken over the mobile platform. People have left iOS for cheaper, more durable, more powerful, and all around better platform. So if you want to delude yourself into thinking that iOS and Android are still comparable. go ahead, but you're only kidding yourself.
That....is epic!!! Love it! Sorry for stirring the pot today, but did get some lulz! You guys rock! Good stuff.
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And further to Darkie's rant; my buddy jailbroke 2 iPhones (4 and 4S) and both of them bricked. Had to pay Apple iGeeks a fortune to reload lousy OS. I can bring my phone back to Sprint and they don't give a flying rat's ass if its rooted or not.
Well, I hate to anger you guys further, but just got to my computer checking mail, FB, etc. And seen he commented again. I haven't been home for a while, so I have been yet to paste any of your responses there.
This is a long one too, but now I can cut and paste it.....
"It's always the same arguments. Citing 20 different phones, 100 different features, who has what first, etc.... It's the same on both sides of the argument. It all boils down to preference... Both sides will fight tooth and nail to make their points heard. But nobody can deny the fact that no matter what Android OS you're on, or what phone ( HTC, Samsung, Google, Motorola, etc ) they are never compared to each other or previous models, they are all compared to the iPhone. Since that is true, you gotta ask yourself, if Android is so much better regardless of manufacturer, then why? It's not apple or "iSheep" making these comparisons. It's rating companies, magazines, and media making these comparisons. The iDevices do, and always will stand alone. And every new phone will be compared to it. I don't think less of Android users... There is an argument to be made about anything. My personal preference is the iPhone ( being someone who as had and used both OSs and Android on several different platforms ). A lot of argument comes from people, and developers, who have never even owned an iPhone. Maybe just played with one in a store or tooled around on a friends. As iPhone users/developers/jailbreakers, we all agree that Apples restrictions to content is for the most part bull****. So to argue that one is better than the other from a downloadable content standpoint is valid. But I prefer the solid foundation that the iPhone provides. I think the OS is better implemented and that the hardware is superior to any competitor. Since I am able to jailbreak my device, I can install any software I choose, and again in my opinion is better than any content available in the Android Marketplace or on the stock Android OS. The rest is pure marketing. Are there pros and cons? Depends on what you need your device for. The simple fact is, Apples iOS is designed specifically for the iPhone. There are not 50 platforms. Android is open source so any manufacturer can add whatever feature sets they want to the OS. I think that's the biggest downfall, but that's how these companies sell their devices and try to set themselves apart from other manufactures. Android/Google don't care what features they add or what hardware manufactures install the OS on. The manufacturers pay to use the OS. Same with windows phones/computers. There is no quality control other than applications and software extensions have to meet minimum requirements to get licensing. All these manufactures have is themselves to compete with and usually offer up 1 "premium" model thats build to retail markup is ridiculous because for the most part, they use the cheapest commercially available hardware that meets spec sheet, not actual, performance standards. They put it all together in pretty cases with impressive looking feature sets then install a OS that was not designed to work on that particular hardware setup. Then they box it and ship it. That's why the UI is fragmented, but it's got a lot of appealing features that people gotta have. They tend to ignore the performance issues because they got all these bells and whistles on a 4 inch screen. Some features are useful innovations, but they come from developers outside of Google. Google buys software and implements it. Apple is not so open to outside development, but like Android, most of the innovative features were inspired from the developers in the jailbreak community and rewritten by Apple to work with the hardware. The point is, everything Apple is designed and implemented internally and each component is built by vendors to exacting specs. Much more quality control which produces a much more solid device. They have control over everything right down to the batteries and it is all designed with performance and durability in mind, they don't cut corners. The build to retail margins are much different... That's why they are more expensive and carriers are taking a hit selling them at contract prices even tho those prices are 2-4 times greater than Android based phones."
"Never argue with stupid people. They will bring you down to their level, and defeat you with their experience." -Mark Twain
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/19/apple-files-again-for-a-preliminary-ban-against-samsung/
Well..... Good luck with that.
Meanwhile, do you think this will have any effect on our update? Slow it down? Speed it up???
Why not go after the new one?
I hate Apple now.
Apple must have some pretty low self confidence if they are trying to ban their competition instead of trying to do what all the other companies do.. Make a better product.
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Apple must have some pretty low self confidence if they are trying to ban their competition instead of trying to do what all the other companies do.. Make a better product.
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Apple successfully tricked Samsung lawyers in to admitting that they, from their table, could not identify which tablet was which (iPad vs Galaxy Tab). Not only that but their tablet is far outselling ours.
Maybe Samsung needs to make a better product. Just saying.
I think if the iPad is outselling the Galaxy Tab 10.1, then all this is not even necessary. I just hope Samsung doesnt stop working on this tablet. The Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 is out anyways.
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Apple successfully tricked Samsung lawyers in to admitting that they, from their table, could not identify which tablet was which (iPad vs Galaxy Tab). Not only that but their tablet is far outselling ours.
Maybe Samsung needs to make a better product. Just saying.
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If Apple wasn't afraid of Samsung, they wouldn't try to ban them from selling their products. And just because those lawyers work for Samsung, doesn't mean they use their tab, or any tab for that matter. So if they couldn't tell the difference, maybe they're just not tech savvy. To anyone who uses either tab, you can definitely tell the difference. Obviously they are going to look similar, they are both tablets. It's just like Samsung suing magnavox because their tv looks like a tv.. They all look the same. Can't do too much to make a tablet look different, other than change the color.
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I agree, apple stinks. Competition is good for development. Aplle has this self righteous attitude that they created everything. Then the stuff they do produce is not enough to supply the original demand. They think that they are this really cool club and only the lucky selected people can come in. Anyway, the suit is about slide lock, how petty!
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It makes sense. They already lost the phone war. They are trying to win the tablet war. So far the numbers are on their side but if they keep loosing sales it will be the same as with phones. They will be selling tabs to less than 40 percent of the tab buyers...
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joseamirandavelez said:
It makes sense. They already lost the phone war. They are trying to win the tablet war. So far the numbers are on their side but if they keep loosing sales it will be the same as with phones. They will be selling tabs to less than 40 percent of the tab buyers...
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How have they lost the phone war? The iPhone is the fastest selling handset in the world.
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How have they lost the phone war? The iPhone is the fastest selling handset in the world.
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Maybe he means this:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/05/16/samsung-leading-the-world-in-phone-sales/
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Panos_dm said:
Maybe he means this:
http://www.sammobile.com/2012/05/16/samsung-leading-the-world-in-phone-sales/
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Ah, yes. People do like to group all of the handsets together to make it seem like Android/Samsung has an edge. Hurray for misleading information!
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How have they lost the phone war? The iPhone is the fastest selling handset in the world.
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TimOster said:
Better open newspaper. Samsung is the highest selling phone in the world, not Apple. Android is most used OS, not iOS.
I'd say that going to nearly 90% market share to in the high 30's today is loosing the war. But your opinion may vary
Tim
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Nope. The iPhone is outselling any handset Samsung is offering. Android has to group all their handsets together to make it seem like it's doing better, when in actuality if you look at this from a manufacturer point of view you start seeing their failures.
And we all know Android numbers are padded with tonnes of lower end crappy android devices.
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Nope. The iPhone is outselling any handset Samsung is offering. Android has to group all their handsets together to make it seem like it's doing better, when in actuality if you look at this from a manufacturer point of view you start seeing their failures.
And we all know Android numbers are padded with tonnes of lower end crappy android devices.
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You do realize there's more than one iPhone, right?
And if you hate Android so much, may I ask why you are on an Android developer forum?
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You do realize there's more than one iPhone, right?
And if you hate Android so much, may I ask why you are on an Android developer forum?
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I hate Android phones, not Android as a whole. I think Android belongs on tablets. My phone should be fast, powerful,and easy to use, with minimal crashing and issues. Hence the iPhone. But a tablet should be more like a PC, which is why I put up with a laggy tablet instead of an iPad.
Anyway, I'm not arguing about the OS itself. Just that the numbers are wrong. Only 1 person makes the iPhone and the iPhone 4S is outselling every other handheld out there. When you bring Android devices together they sell more, because there's like 1000 devices and a lot of them are cheap, low end ones that are appealing to people that want an iPhone, but can't afford one.
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I hate Android phones, not Android as a whole. I think Android belongs on tablets. My phone should be fast, powerful,and easy to use, with minimal crashing and issues. Hence the iPhone. But a tablet should be more like a PC, which is why I put up with a laggy tablet instead of an iPad.
Anyway, I'm not arguing about the OS itself. Just that the numbers are wrong. Only 1 person makes the iPhone and the iPhone 4S is outselling every other handheld out there. When you bring Android devices together they sell more, because there's like 1000 devices and a lot of them are cheap, low end ones that are appealing to people that want an iPhone, but can't afford one.
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I think you've seen the wrong Android phones. I own the galaxy s2 and have never had a single glitch, force close, nothing. I actually have a friend with the iPhone 4 who is always talking about how he wants my phone. It's all personal preference. And no, they're not comparing all Android phone sales to Apple. Samsung as a company has sold far more Android phones than Apple has iPhones.
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I hate Android phones, not Android as a whole. I think Android belongs on tablets. My phone should be fast, powerful,and easy to use, with minimal crashing and issues. Hence the iPhone. But a tablet should be more like a PC, which is why I put up with a laggy tablet instead of an iPad.
Anyway, I'm not arguing about the OS itself. Just that the numbers are wrong. Only 1 person makes the iPhone and the iPhone 4S is outselling every other handheld out there. When you bring Android devices together they sell more, because there's like 1000 devices and a lot of them are cheap, low end ones that are appealing to people that want an iPhone, but can't afford one.
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You're right, the 4s is outselling every other handset. Toyota (as a whole) is also outselling the Honda Civic (see what I did there). Your logic is nonsense, but if it makes you feel better about your phone then tell believe what you'd like.
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I think you've seen the wrong Android phones. I own the galaxy s2 and have never had a single glitch, force close, nothing. I actually have a friend with the iPhone 4 who is always talking about how he wants my phone. It's all personal preference. And no, they're not comparing all Android phone sales to Apple. Samsung as a company has sold far more Android phones than Apple has iPhones.
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I sell Android devices at work all the time instead of iPhones. Because we have an extra incentive on the high end Android devices. Galaxy S 2, Galaxy S 2 HD, Galaxy Note, HTC Raider/Evo, the new LG Optimus. And all I can see is crashes, laggy UI (even in ICS) and fragmentation issues. I don't want to wait months for an official update like we are with our Galaxy Tabs. Sure I could and have put on a custom ROM, but things are missing, not working, etc. Point being I prefer the speed and power of an iPhone and it's reliable updates. Nothing against Android. I just don't see it as a good phone OS yet.
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You're right, the 4s is outselling every other handset. Toyota (as a whole) is also outselling the Honda Civic (see what I did there). Your logic is nonsense, but if it makes you feel better about your phone then tell believe what you'd like.
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Nope. My logic is spot on. No other handset can beat it's sales numbers 1 on 1. I could care less about OS share.
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I sell Android devices at work all the time instead of iPhones. Because we have an extra incentive on the high end Android devices. Galaxy S 2, Galaxy S 2 HD, Galaxy Note, HTC Raider/Evo, the new LG Optimus. And all I can see is crashes, laggy UI (even in ICS) and fragmentation issues. I don't want to wait months for an official update like we are with our Galaxy Tabs. Sure I could and have put on a custom ROM, but things are missing, not working, etc. Point being I prefer the speed and power of an iPhone and it's reliable updates. Nothing against Android. I just don't see it as a good phone OS yet.
Nope. My logic is spot on. No other handset can beat it's sales numbers 1 on 1. I could care less about OS share.
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Well; of course it will. On one side you have the Iphone, by itself and singling out 1 Android device which competes against countless other Android devices & the iPhone. Not quite a fair comparison.
You might find this video interesting.
http://youtu.be/NMiY1kSTHZw
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Well; of course it will. On one side you have the Iphone, by itself and singling out 1 Android device which competes against countless other Android devices & the iPhone. Not quite a fair comparison.
You might find this video interesting.
http://youtu.be/NMiY1kSTHZw
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Why should we not compare them 1 on 1 for sales? iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S 2. iPhone sold more. iPhone 4S vs any other handset? iPhone hassold more. I don't get why everyone thinks it's such an accomplishment that Android has a bigger overall OS share. Low end devices that have bad life cycles and never get updated isn't my idea of how a phone or tablet should be. Hopefully we can get an Android developer who's on the ball with these things, making updates available quickly.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Foxconn-Hon-Hai-Galaxy-S-III-iPhone-5-apple,16090.html
I nearly chuckled when I saw this one.
I guess that means it must run Android then, because if it runs iOS it doesnt stand a chance of doing so..
Lets be frank here, it will look much the same as the current iPhone (boring), it will feel much the same to use (boring), it will be locked down and restricted like the current iPhone (boring), and will have the same (boring) baristas, emos are douches queueing up for it on day one. Ill pass.
Is it a ploy from apple to stop people from buying s3??
Only the facts will tell the truth.. there is no point in giving statements without concrete facts. Bad move apple...
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Galaxy s3 has already made iphone 5 to shiver...the big thing is...iphone 5 is yet a prototype and apple feared that Galaxy may put iphone 5 to shame so they pleadged to ban s3 sales in usa... now tel me whos afraid ??? and whos ashamed??..
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At this point Apple buyers are like BMW buyers, they will buy any old ridiculous turd as long as it has the badge on, so really statements like this are just sermons for the iSheep, and pretty meaningless to the rest of us. As long as Apple makes it they will buy it, why? because Apples says its best and therefore it is. Its almost a religion now..
But dude, it has an apple logo.
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Some rumors I've read claim that it will be equipped with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4.
I think that a good optimization can make the difference, placing Apple's smartphone between HTC One S and Android quad-core phones.
IMHO Apple will put a enormous capacity battery into the iPhone...
I guess since we're comparing a phone that will be out several months later that doesn't even exist yet; we'll compare it to another like phone... I'm sure the GSIV will put the iPhone 5 to shame then lol.
zetorrr said:
Some rumors I've read claim that it will be equipped with a dual-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4.
I think that a good optimization can make the difference, placing Apple's smartphone between HTC One S and Android quad-core phones.
IMHO Apple will put a enormous capacity battery into the iPhone...
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I cant see that, Apple will want their own CPU in there (and by that i mean a modified Samsung as the A4 and A5 were). It will probably have the A5x.
PErsonally I'm quite excited for the iPhone 5 and what it will bring.
Having had a look at the rubbish minor "new" features for iOS, I'm thinking Apple will have drastically improved the hardware of iPhone 5.
That is good for the whole industry
I'm sure the new iPhone will be excellent. Without new iPhones and new Galaxy's wouldn't it get boring. These companies need to push out great phones to keep giving us great products.
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I cant see that, Apple will want their own CPU in there (and by that i mean a modified Samsung as the A4 and A5 were). It will probably have the A5x.
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I apologize. Probably you're right. My "not very good" english fooled me... I've read on cnet an article about iphone and qualcomm production issues. Please check it on your own, I can't add link yet.
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Is it a ploy from apple to stop people from buying s3??
Only the facts will tell the truth.. there is no point in giving statements without concrete facts. Bad move apple...
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It wasn't Apple. It was FoxConn. They build devices for Apple AND other companie as well.
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I'm sure the new iPhone will be excellent. Without new iPhones and new Galaxy's wouldn't it get boring. These companies need to push out great phones to keep giving us great products.
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Exactly. Android fanboys are just as juvenile as iPhone fanboys.
Competition is good.
iphone 5 it may come at nov/dec this year end, Galaxy NOTE 2nd version will be out there with android 4.1 .......
poor apple fun still waiting / sleeping in front of apple shop queuing , as foxconn not able to deliever on time etc.
haha
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Baldilocks said:
Exactly. Android fanboys are just as juvenile as iPhone fanboys.
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Yogi bear says ;
But we're smarter than the average "sheep"
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Yogi bear says ;
But we're smarter than the average "sheep"
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I don't think smarts has anything to do with it really. Rooting and installing ROM's is a whole lot easier than jailbreaking and using it's related tools, etc..
I just think the 'average' Android user and the 'average' iOS user could really care less..
every new device,if the job is done well, is goint to become leader at the time of its introduction it will be same with iphone 6 and then again with galaxy s4, etc.
Baldilocks said:
I don't think smarts has anything to do with it really. Rooting and installing ROM's is a whole lot easier than jailbreaking and using it's related tools, etc..
I just think the 'average' Android user and the 'average' iOS user could really care less..
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You missed my ambiguous point:
The last few seconds of the Samsung SGS3 Teaser...... "you can now stand out from ......."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hudqvbAetPE
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I think it was a clever move by foxconn. The more people that get the s3 the less that will be available 2 sign up for a 2 year contract on the new iphone and the less orders foxconn will receive . And consequently the less money they make.
I personally think the iphone is easier for people to use who are novices. And it's more stable. However the s3 if you know how can do so much more.
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Ok before I get started I would like to stress I am no fanboy of either apple or android... I simply like good products... So no flaming please.
Now down to business, the biggest problem with the S3 (yes I own one) is the fact that samsung (and all non GED devices to be fair) seem to forget the fundamental rule... Optimize the software to run effectively on the hardware. The galaxy nexus (Yes I own one) for me runs just as fast as the s3 in terms of web browsing and general use... Yes the animations are slightly smoother on the s3 but how is it possible for the browser to not have any significant speed improvement??
Fact of the matter is that apple will optimize the iPhone 5 to the extent that it doesn't need the hardware the s3 has to run as fast (rest assured as always it always does, will flatten the s3 in benchmarks and browser speeds).
Apple seem to understand that optimisation is the way forward and this is why the next Nexus is a no brainer... Touchwiz can do all it does but it will never run as smoothly nor work as well as AOSP.