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Hello, I was looking at Helio and they seem to have very good rates for 3g and voice, but I am not so interested in their phone options. Being that they are a CDMA provider, Is it possible to get an unlocked HTC Apache to work with this provider?
u can change the esn and carrier system to support helio but u can only use the phone and txting but im not to sure about the data its a pain in the @ss to change it over to sprint i gotta use another phone that works with sprint n clone their data settings but the other phone needs to b active also in order for the data to work on the phone so the system sees two phones using data but if there is some way u can get ur own settings in there it should work witout a problem u just need the right settings i just took the easy way out by copying another active phone.
Anyone know the data settings? Example - generic username and password, is it [email protected] and password the hex of the ESN?
Voice and text works fine with Sprint PRL, data however, is not working. They don't auth off of Sprints internet servers, I bet they use Earthlink or SK Telekoms(due to each side having cash in helio). Don't know the settings tho, anyone know anyone with an SK Telecom CDMA device, or Earthlink phone? Net settings from either could be tried.
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
alabij said:
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
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Searched for "HTC kovsky" ??
gtrab said:
Searched for "HTC kovsky" ??
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Could you please elaborate. There is no HTC kovsky in the list of possible devices. The only HTC item is "Fuze black".
I had the same problem. I called AT&T to give them my imei number and to change my data plan and The lady kept insisting that I was using a Motorola Q. I insisted that I was not and that I was holding my x1 in my hand. She said she did an imei search and that I was wrong and kept insisting my phone was a Q! I finally just hung up. My phone under my acct. management page stills shows as a Q.
if att does not sell the xperia, i don't think that they would have it on their devices list.
Isn't that a good thing that you can go for the cheaper $15 unlimited data plan?
Couldn't u just pop ur sim in an old regular phone, change the plan and then pop the sim back into the xperia?
did you get a 3g sim card for your x1? thats what the lady told me to do because i initially wasnt getting texts nor internet.
for some reason, the lady i talked to was very helpful and was able to change all the settings on my plan - i just explained to her what kind of phone it was, smartphone with hsdpa?, so on and so on
hope this helps
The AT&T phone tool is garbage. Some of the promotional tools insists that the agent ties the IMEI number to the feature in order to add it to your account. It is ridiculous that the IMEI comes up as a different phone as an IMEI supposedly represents the DNA of the phone. Albeit the X1i is not a supported AT&T phone it should not populate as any other phone in their system at all. Maybe this is AT&Ts sly way to squeeze out any users using non-supported handsets. We already know they are capable of taking that route seeing how the iPhone conditions panned out.
AT&T Idiots
You can't call them to get any help. They go only on the IMEI # now, because they send you packets via sms/mms for the specific phone that comes up with that number. This way there is no knowledge needed of how to actually walk someone through settings. Obviously they don' t offer the X1 so they have any sort of support for it. I went through ten minutes of telling some woman it wasn't a razor! I just went to the store and told the guy I have a fuze and I wanted off my Iphone plan. He didn't even look at the phone and that was that.
IMEIs went from having the first 6 as an identfier to the first 8. This means that some IMEI lookup still pick up old phones.
Suppose the only trick if ATT aren't helping is to borrow a phone which can be identified that has similar features and to stick your SIM in it.
alabij said:
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
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What are you trying to do with the AT&T website and within the X1A, what do you want access to?
If you use a lower end phone, you can get your Data plan for only $15 (medianet). Fuze is a smartphone = $30. Either way, you will get 3G and HSDPA.
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What are you trying to do with the AT&T website and within the X1A, what do you want access to?
If you use a lower end phone, you can get your Data plan for only $15 (medianet). Fuze is a smartphone = $30. Either way, you will get 3G and HSDPA.
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LOL! I'm not trying to change anything. I'm fine with my plan. I was just curious as to why my phone was being classified as a Moto Q and wondered if anyone else had the same issue.
When I was with T-Mobile, their database would show my phone even if it wasnt offered by T-Mob.
Okay, first off, I will preface this thread and questions by stating that I come from cdma phone world. This glacier is my first GSM android and I find them absolutely facinating. Secondly, I am advanced in the tech sector, so I am asking these questions from a professional standpoint and any help or input is welcomed.
So on with the questions.
1.) For GSM phones, is there a utility application like CDMAworkshop and QPST that I can use to see the settings (radio and network settings is mostly what I am after).
Currently, I am aware of an app called SIM TOOLKIT but it only asks for a 8 digit unlock code for the SIM itself, not for the phone. I would like to change the settings of the quality of the calls, and just play around with stuff I am familiar with, or become familiar with.
2.) What is a IMSI, IMEI, and what does the GSM phone send to the carrier (provider network)? I know with CDMA phones, we just can read the memory and change serial numbers. But I have a tracfone sim card and a mytouch tmob phone. I want the mytouch to be able to use the phone portion but they keep disconnecting me, so I have to match my info to the other phone. I got it to work successfully time and time again, but I keep getting disconnected, and it looks like its by a human cause its not at all in sync with a timer or a pattern, at least I haven't noticed it. I know they can dc phones at will and I was just wondering what information they get when making that decision.
3.) Has anyone done a tracfone sim on a glacier (t-mobile mytouch 4g) before? I have the sim unlocked, s-off, root, and custom recovery. I have also changed the IMEI number. I know the process of opening it up in a binary program, using the command 'dd' to modify /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 cause thats where its located. Also there is a T-MOB010 carrier id in that file, should I be changing this to tracfone's CID (carrier ID) and if so, does anyone know that?
I know this is a bit advanced, hopefully someone out there will help me out. There is no funny business going on here, I am just trying to use my tracfone sim in my droid, both are my phones, one i bought from someone for cheap.
I get it to work but random times it will get Disconnected seems like a person. Talk and Text only is needed, not mobile network or 3g or 4g.
ALSO, concerning /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 that is where the IMEI is located... does anyone know any other locations of IMSI or IMEI numbers? I find this fascinating and would like to know what mmcblk0p7 stands for, and what part of the radio and firmware this makes up as well of other locations similiar to this.
birdisthewordfella said:
Okay, first off, I will preface this thread and questions by stating that I come from cdma phone world. This glacier is my first GSM android and I find them absolutely facinating. Secondly, I am advanced in the tech sector, so I am asking these questions from a professional standpoint and any help or input is welcomed.
So on with the questions.
1.) For GSM phones, is there a utility application like CDMAworkshop and QPST that I can use to see the settings (radio and network settings is mostly what I am after).
In the GSM world we just flash various radios. Those can be found the development forum.
Currently, I am aware of an app called SIM TOOLKIT but it only asks for a 8 digit unlock code for the SIM itself, not for the phone. I would like to change the settings of the quality of the calls, and just play around with stuff I am familiar with, or become familiar with.
2.) What is a IMSI, IMEI, and what does the GSM phone send to the carrier (provider network)? I know with CDMA phones, we just can read the memory and change serial numbers. But I have a tracfone sim card and a mytouch tmob phone. I want the mytouch to be able to use the phone portion but they keep disconnecting me, so I have to match my info to the other phone. I got it to work successfully time and time again, but I keep getting disconnected, and it looks like its by a human cause its not at all in sync with a timer or a pattern, at least I haven't noticed it. I know they can dc phones at will and I was just wondering what information they get when making that decision.
The IMEI is the serial number of the phone. Used for warranty purposes, and verification. [IIRC] The IMSI is the serial number of SIM card. IT is the serial number that T-Mobile would approve to allow your phone to connect to their network. I believe that Tracfone is a CDMA carrier. If that is the case the two different radio technologies are preventing you from using a GSM phone, on a CDMA network. Sort of like trying to get FM to play on a AM only radio.
3.) Has anyone done a tracfone sim on a glacier (t-mobile mytouch 4g) before? I have the sim unlocked, s-off, root, and custom recovery. I have also changed the IMEI number. I know the process of opening it up in a binary program, using the command 'dd' to modify /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 cause thats where its located. Also there is a T-MOB010 carrier id in that file, should I be changing this to tracfone's CID (carrier ID) and if so, does anyone know that?
If you are messing with the IMEI of the phone you are messing with stuff that can get you in a lot of trouble. And is punishable by law. You are not allowed to copy IMEI according to FCC standards.
I know this is a bit advanced, hopefully someone out there will help me out. There is no funny business going on here, I am just trying to use my tracfone sim in my droid, both are my phones, one i bought from someone for cheap.
I get it to work but random times it will get Disconnected seems like a person. Talk and Text only is needed, not mobile network or 3g or 4g.
ALSO, concerning /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 that is where the IMEI is located... does anyone know any other locations of IMSI or IMEI numbers? I find this fascinating and would like to know what mmcblk0p7 stands for, and what part of the radio and firmware this makes up as well of other locations similiar to this.
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I've answered to the best of my ability.
Your questions might be better addressed to the Tracfone subforum on HowardForums.
Tracfone locks the SIM to the phone. If you wanted to use your own phone, why in the world did you go with Tracfone?
If you want to get pay-by-the-minute service on your MT4G, go with T-Mobile prepaid or AT&T GoPhone. There are also other MVNOs of both T-Mo and AT&T that do allow you to bring your own device.
If you plan on using data, your best speeds will be found on T-Mobile or its MVNO Simple Mobile due to hardware radio compatibility.
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I believe that Tracfone is a CDMA carrier. If that is the case the two different radio technologies are preventing you from using a GSM phone, on a CDMA network. Sort of like trying to get FM to play on a AM only radio.
I've answered to the best of my ability.
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Yes, thank you very much. As far as tracfone goes, its both a CDMA and GSM carrier, I do believe if you get a leased number from them you will get either verizon (which will be a cdma phone) or you will get AT&T (which I currently have) one and that will even display AT&T when porting it over.
I don't have a lot of money and the job market is dry so until I save enough up to move then I just research the tech that I can get my hands on, this is a good way to learn, which brings me to my next question to your reply...
HAS ANYONE EVER GOT IN TROUBLE FOR THIS??? I'm not selling or distributing or even trying to access anything i'm not supposed to to benefit or gain by taking away so I'm just curious if there have been any cases where they show up from someone just tinkering... by 'they' i mean the fuzz.
And for the AT&T go phone, their sims are better? could I just pull that out and put it in my glacier?
Thanks guys.
birdisthewordfella said:
And for the AT&T go phone, their sims are better? could I just pull that out and put it in my glacier?
Thanks guys.
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If you go with AT&T GoPhone, the key is to just buy a SIM - not a GoPhone itself. The phones that come with airtime bonuses are locked to the SIM for some number of months. If you buy just a SIM you can use it in any phone. Voice calls are 10¢/min. If you buy $100 in airtime you get a 1-year expiry, but all other denominations are shorter and would lead to a higher annual spend if you stick with them.
If you go with T-Mobile prepaid, get a SIM activation kit (both a SIM and an activation code included). If you buy a full $100 in airtime right off the bat, you get a 10¢/minute rate, 1-year expiry, *and* every top-up you make from that point onwards will have a 1-year expiry (even a $10 top-up). Or you can top up as little as $10 and get a 90-day expiry but a much higher per-minute rate.
It all really depends on your usage pattern - how many minutes and texts would you use? Do you have any interest in getting data?
If you end up switching and you have a balance left to burn in your TracFone account, you can always do so using SMS donation (look up Mobile Giving Foundation for a list of charities).
Yeh, i found what I am going to do, the go phone is .10c a min, or $2 a day for unlimited. That's not bad at all. They even have unlimited for $50 /mo. So I'm definitely doing that. Thanks for the suggestion. Btw, that unlimited is voice text and DATA!
birdisthewordfella said:
Yeh, i found what I am going to do, the go phone is .10c a min, or $2 a day for unlimited. That's not bad at all. They even have unlimited for $50 /mo. So I'm definitely doing that. Thanks for the suggestion. Btw, that unlimited is voice text and DATA!
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t-Mobile?
It's a 2Gb cap then they throttle your speed back to "EDGE" speeds... don't get to happy.
they don't sell gophone cards online, so I'm taking my phone to the at&t store, wish me luck
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they don't sell gophone cards online, so I'm taking my phone to the at&t store, wish me luck
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you'll only get EDGE speeds all the time then.
AT&T Prepaid Go Phone Sim Cards are available online.
Use the ebay link. You Can also activate it online.
Check out this one
This is much better, 2 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ONWGMC
I want to switch to an all data plan for my phone. I don't need talk or text because I think that Fongo and Facebook messenger are adequate enough. So, I after doing a bit of poking around the internet, I found that the cheapest data plan for tablets is the Rogers flex data plan. Has anyone gotten a tablet plan working on a phone? My thoughts are that since they use similar radios in tablets and phones, why not? Setting the correct APN should allow the phone to use a tablet data plan on a standard SIM right? Would I be able to activate a new plan with Rogers with a phone IMEI or with no IMEI? Also just in case, would anyone be willing to let me use their IMEI for their tablet to get a plan?
Sorry, wasn't being clear, I meant, would someone be able to give me their IMEI for their tablet so that I could activate a tablet plan for my phone just in case I am not able to get a plan with no IMEI or using my phone's IMEI? Sorry if I'm still not clear... I don't have a tablet to activate a plan with and I am in no position to go buy a 3g tablet just for my phone plan...
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Sorry, wasn't being clear, I meant, would someone be able to give me their IMEI for their tablet so that I could activate a tablet plan for my phone just in case I am not able to get a plan with no IMEI or using my phone's IMEI? Sorry if I'm still not clear... I don't have a tablet to activate a plan with and I am in no position to go buy a 3g tablet just for my phone plan...
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Well, if by "lowest price", you mean "highest price", then sure... robbers. Otherwise, try some of the smaller carriers, like Wind. Walk in, buy sim card with data plan, walk out. Nobody cares about your imei or what type of device you have.
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Well, if by "lowest price", you mean "highest price", then sure... robbers. Otherwise, try some of the smaller carriers, like Wind. Walk in, buy sim card with data plan, walk out. Nobody cares about your imei or what type of device you have.
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actually, Bell is offering $20 for 1GB. Fongo uses 0.5 MB per minute. That would mean you can use up to 2000 minutes a month.
In terms of the IMEI, I know some of them ask for it in order to activate a plan. Is there anyway to get around that?
hey, I know it's been a while, but did you end up activating a Rogers Flex plan with your phone? how did the process go? did you need to provide IMEI? did it charge you properly for a flex plan? were APN settings ok the way they were, or did you have to change them manually?
Thanks
I went into my local AT&T store and they gave me a nano-sim card.
my current device is a LG G3 which I plan to return once the Xperia is activated. The G3 uses a micro-sim.
how can I set this up to work properly so there are no IMEI duplicate/blacklisting issues.
TheNamelessMan said:
I went into my local AT&T store and they gave me a nano-sim card.
my current device is a LG G3 which I plan to return once the Xperia is activated. The G3 uses a micro-sim.
how can I set this up to work properly so there are no IMEI duplicate/blacklisting issues.
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This thread discusses AT&T LTE and IMEIs: AT&T APN Settings for LTE
Tell them the situation, use same imei as g3. Profit.
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Tell them the situation, use same imei as g3. Profit.
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right thats the easy part. what im afraid of is once i return the G3, the imei from it will be tagged on my acct with AT&T. if that phone gets activated again, whether it's resold or not, the imei will show its on multiple devices and that could cause problems.
any ideas? or is that not how it works...
i don't think it will be a problem. they will know the IMEI of the phone you are currently using the moment you turn it on and connect to a cell tower. so the IMEI on the account will be replaced with your current phone. If they dont' have that phone in their database, it will show up as unknown or whatever the hell their database claims it is.
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i don't think it will be a problem. they will know the IMEI of the phone you are currently using the moment you turn it on and connect to a cell tower. so the IMEI on the account will be replaced with your current phone. If they dont' have that phone in their database, it will show up as unknown or whatever the hell their database claims it is.
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do they have dummy IMEI's they can assign as well?
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do they have dummy IMEI's they can assign as well?
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Not sure, I've read that sometimes they will just pull the IMEI from a display phone in the store.
I gave them the IMEI from an LTE phone that is under contract with AT&T on a separate business account, it wasn't an issue at all.
no they dont have dummies or generics and they cannot override the data provisioning determined by your IMEI. just activate your new sim, make no mention of your new phone. if you sell your device to another att subscriber it should not make any difference.
see my post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...ttings-lte-t2888644/post55795437#post55795437
I got two Z3C for both myself and my wife. When I got them activated the sales rep used the exact same IMEI number from an HTC One m8. Same IMEI number two different phones. Neither my wife nor I have had problems.
Easiest way? Talk to the AT&T rep in the store, tell them it is a imported phone and they will need to leave the IMEI number as the current one. Program in the APN settings and done. AT&T does not do any blacklisting or care how many devices have the same IMEI number in their system, it just requires that a valid one for LTE be set for an active device.