For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
alabij said:
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
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Searched for "HTC kovsky" ??
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Searched for "HTC kovsky" ??
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Could you please elaborate. There is no HTC kovsky in the list of possible devices. The only HTC item is "Fuze black".
I had the same problem. I called AT&T to give them my imei number and to change my data plan and The lady kept insisting that I was using a Motorola Q. I insisted that I was not and that I was holding my x1 in my hand. She said she did an imei search and that I was wrong and kept insisting my phone was a Q! I finally just hung up. My phone under my acct. management page stills shows as a Q.
if att does not sell the xperia, i don't think that they would have it on their devices list.
Isn't that a good thing that you can go for the cheaper $15 unlimited data plan?
Couldn't u just pop ur sim in an old regular phone, change the plan and then pop the sim back into the xperia?
did you get a 3g sim card for your x1? thats what the lady told me to do because i initially wasnt getting texts nor internet.
for some reason, the lady i talked to was very helpful and was able to change all the settings on my plan - i just explained to her what kind of phone it was, smartphone with hsdpa?, so on and so on
hope this helps
The AT&T phone tool is garbage. Some of the promotional tools insists that the agent ties the IMEI number to the feature in order to add it to your account. It is ridiculous that the IMEI comes up as a different phone as an IMEI supposedly represents the DNA of the phone. Albeit the X1i is not a supported AT&T phone it should not populate as any other phone in their system at all. Maybe this is AT&Ts sly way to squeeze out any users using non-supported handsets. We already know they are capable of taking that route seeing how the iPhone conditions panned out.
AT&T Idiots
You can't call them to get any help. They go only on the IMEI # now, because they send you packets via sms/mms for the specific phone that comes up with that number. This way there is no knowledge needed of how to actually walk someone through settings. Obviously they don' t offer the X1 so they have any sort of support for it. I went through ten minutes of telling some woman it wasn't a razor! I just went to the store and told the guy I have a fuze and I wanted off my Iphone plan. He didn't even look at the phone and that was that.
IMEIs went from having the first 6 as an identfier to the first 8. This means that some IMEI lookup still pick up old phones.
Suppose the only trick if ATT aren't helping is to borrow a phone which can be identified that has similar features and to stick your SIM in it.
alabij said:
For those of you using ATT in the US. I went to my acct management to mess around with my plans when I discovered that my default device had been switched to a moto Q. I chose the "this is not my device" option but the Xperia is not on the list.
Are there any workarounds. The reason this is important is that I am unable to change my data plan, plus a lot of features and options that used to show up when I had my Fuze are gone.
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What are you trying to do with the AT&T website and within the X1A, what do you want access to?
If you use a lower end phone, you can get your Data plan for only $15 (medianet). Fuze is a smartphone = $30. Either way, you will get 3G and HSDPA.
williamn said:
What are you trying to do with the AT&T website and within the X1A, what do you want access to?
If you use a lower end phone, you can get your Data plan for only $15 (medianet). Fuze is a smartphone = $30. Either way, you will get 3G and HSDPA.
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LOL! I'm not trying to change anything. I'm fine with my plan. I was just curious as to why my phone was being classified as a Moto Q and wondered if anyone else had the same issue.
When I was with T-Mobile, their database would show my phone even if it wasnt offered by T-Mob.
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I bought the US version of HD2 today and unlocked it.
What do i have to do to use all the features and functions on AT&T's network? I would like my email, internet, weather, stocks to work. Any tips? I am able to make only phone calls right now and would like to start using all the other features. Thanks in advance for all your help.. also, i have PDA plan already..
I also unlocked the HD2 and am using on AT&T and had the same problems. I could make calls and had internet access for the first day, but had to do a hard reset and when it came back up I could only make calls. There is a fix though. Go to:
Settings>Wireless Controls>Data Connection>Add a new modem connection
Under "Enter a name for the connection" type: Media Net
Select a modem: Select Cellular Line (GPRS), then hit next
Access Point Name: wap.cingular, then hit next
Leave blank user name, password, and domain, then click finish.
You won't get 3G access this way (only Edge), but you should now be able to access AT&T's Media Net data plan and browse without problems. This worked for me anyway.
If anyone knows how to get 3G speed, please share!
AT&T forcing 30$ smartphone data plan
Hi,
I also unlocked my t mobile HD2 and put my at&t SIM card in it. AT&T recognizes my device as blackberry 7290 and automatically added 30$ smartphone data plan on it. Also, they did not help me set up the edge network which i finally did by myself. Anyways, is there a way to put only 15$ data plan on it?
Thanks,
Vikrant
gpbroa said:
If anyone knows how to get 3G speed, please share!
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Buy the Telstra one, that's the only way you'll get 3G sorry to say. Wish US carriers all use the same frequencies.
Guys, how you unlocked the phone?
I got a unlocked T-Mobile HD2 and try to use HSPL2 to flash this moble, but the message tell me "wrong model ID".
I don't know what to do.
vikrantrai01 said:
Hi,
I also unlocked my t mobile HD2 and put my at&t SIM card in it. AT&T recognizes my device as blackberry 7290 and automatically added 30$ smartphone data plan on it. Also, they did not help me set up the edge network which i finally did by myself. Anyways, is there a way to put only 15$ data plan on it?
Thanks,
Vikrant
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Can someone tell me how do u unlock your HD2? I need to do the same for my TMOB HD2. Thx
conchuot said:
Can someone tell me how do u unlock your HD2? I need to do the same for my TMOB HD2. Thx
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Ok, all i had to do was call Tmobile to get the unlock code for my phone. i downloaded the MediaNet cab file, installed it and everything is working great except the Visual Voicemail which i understand because it is strictly developed for Tmobile.
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I bought the US version of HD2 today and unlocked it.
What do i have to do to use all the features and functions on AT&T's network?
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You do realize that:
A. There's a separate forum for the T-Mobile HD2?
B. You could've bought an HD2 (Telstra version -- T9193) that's compatible with AT&T 3G?
I am also interested to learn of any way to avoid paying the $30 data plan instead of the $10 one. Anyone? Anyone? I looked at the option of changing the IMEI but will not go there after learning it is illegal. I'm ok with edge on at&t but not if I'm paying $30 a month.
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I am also interested to learn of any way to avoid paying the $30 data plan instead of the $10 one. Anyone? Anyone? I looked at the option of changing the IMEI but will not go there after learning it is illegal. I'm ok with edge on at&t but not if I'm paying $30 a month.
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Register a feature-phone with AT&T and get them to switch the data back to $15.
Also, any Blackberry IMEI they're registering is wrong as nobody sells/uses a BB 7290 anymore.
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Register a feature-phone with AT&T and get them to switch the data back to $15.
Also, any Blackberry IMEI they're registering is wrong as nobody sells/uses a BB 7290 anymore.
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NuShrike or anybody, Do you have specific experience with switching down to the $15 data plan? Whether the 7290's are in use anymore or not I'm thinking that AT&T is going to switch me right back to the $30 data plan when I make a call from my HD2(BB 7290 to them).
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NuShrike or anybody, Do you have specific experience with switching down to the $15 data plan? Whether the 7290's are in use anymore or not I'm thinking that AT&T is going to switch me right back to the $30 data plan when I make a call from my HD2(BB 7290 to them).
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I'm technically still using my Sony-Ericsson on my grandfathered data plan, and have never been upgraded to the $30. I also stay under ~100MB a month so ymmv.
I've read all over HowardForums this is the way to get back in to $15. Just make sure you'd NEVER registered your HD2 IMEI with your account on AT&T by telling some rep, or such. Otherwise, you're SOL because you've publicly admitted to them that it's a "smartphone". Don't do any communication with at&t using your HD2. Get a pay-go and swap in your current sim if you need to.
So far so good. I've made it almost 24 hours with a $10(when added to family unlimited messaging) data plan. Anyone know if I should be in the clear or do they only sweep weekly/monthly?
I have been wanting to try and see if I can buy a pay as you go plan and phone then just swap out the sim in my T9193 and all be fine without them catching on to what phone im using and terminating my data? Anyone ever done this before? The first time I tried pay as you go I told them what phone I was using and shortly after the data was terminated because I was using the nexus one so I was stuck with unlimited minutes and no data.
A friend of mine received his unlocking code today, and on his AT&T customer online page... it showed that he had that ancient BlackBerry model as well.
However, they didn't automatically switch his data plan. I told him to basically call, but NOT from the device, and to demand the unlimited data plan, but not for the iPhone (which is what he had previously) so we'll see whether or NOT they ask too many questions about the device he's currently using.
airdragon said:
Guys, how you unlocked the phone?
I got a unlocked T-Mobile HD2 and try to use HSPL2 to flash this moble, but the message tell me "wrong model ID".
I don't know what to do.
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Flash HSPL2 and new ROM wouldn't help to unlock the sim. That's what I did. I ends up fax the request to Tmobile where I got my phone at full price. They send me the code few hours ago.
good luck.
how many digits did u have in your unlock code ?
thanks,
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how many digits did u have in your unlock code ?
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8 digits for t-mobile HD2 unlock code.
I am using it with ATT, its unlocked from tmobile, I got the att cab, just install this, and it puts the media net settings on the phone
The only problem is sometimes in my email, or google maps, it will say something about a connection problem? Anyone else have those issues?
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kmlmn4wt35m/ATT_WAP_MEdiaNet_and_MMS_Settings (1).cab
I am using it with ATT, its unlocked from tmobile, I got the att cab, just install this, and it puts the media net settings on the phone
The only problem is sometimes in my email, or google maps, it will say something about a connection problem? Anyone else have those issues?
Also ATT thinks im on some old nokia phone, and I have the $15 unlimited data plan hahaha, they never know the difference unless you pull wayyy to much data, so don't tell them what phone you have
http://www.mediafire.com/file/kmlmn4wt35m/ATT_WAP_MEdiaNet_and_MMS_Settings (1).cab
Hey All:
Looking to upgrade from xv6900 (Touch) to Imagio; and wanted to know if there is anyway to connect an unlocked Imagio without paying for the data plan on VZW. I love VZW service and signal and donmt want to get rid of them. Any insight is helpful thanks.
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Hey All:
Looking to upgrade from xv6900 (Touch) to Imagio; and wanted to know if there is anyway to connect an unlocked Imagio without paying for the data plan on VZW. I love VZW service and signal and donmt want to get rid of them. Any insight is helpful thanks.
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You might try going to Verizon's website and manually switching your phone through your account settings. If you don't have an account there, you'll have to register and link it to your Verizon billing account. To switch the phone manually on the website, you just need to enter the new phone's MEID, which is found beneath the battery. I can't guarantee that will work if the two phones' features are a lot different, but it's worth a shot. Worst thing that happens is it doesn't work.
robin24k
I've looked into this issue a lot, and there is no way to legally get around the mandatory data plan. What I ended up doing is upgrading to an Imagio through Verizon and bought a new Motorola W755 on Ebay. When I got the Imagio, I activated it for a minute to accept the terms of the contract, then had the rep credit back the prorated data charges.
Now, I'm using the W755 as a phone and the Imagio as a PDA. I'm still carrying two devices, but it's much lighter than the Treo 755p and Treo Pro combo I had been doing before.
I have a T-mobile Unlimited Web+ 400 free messages and the issues is this plan is paid for by my company and I cannot change the plan, currently data works on my HD2 with Android.. I want to know if the data will work on a rooted myTouch 4g without changing to Android data plan? Can anyone explain this to me??
If I understand things correctly -- and I may not -- a GSM carrier's "plan" is tied to the SIM card.
With that assumption, you can move the SIM card from the HD2 to the MT4G without T-Mobile's involvement. Whatever agreements you have with T-Mobile will remain in force, assuming the phone is capabile of providing those services. You could also go the other way, and move the SIM to a lower end "feature phone" and be limited to text only, as such a phone doesn't have Data capability. But you or your company would be paying on the same plan.
If you are switching SIMs for any reason -- for instance, keeping the HD2 as a personal phone, then T-Mobile would have to provision the new SIM. Using this scenario, they might recommend moving the HD2's SIM into the MT4G for use as your business phone, and putting the MT4G's SIM into the HD2 and provisioning it with a personal plan.
Rooting and using a custom ROM have no bearing on your carrier plan. Unless you need to return the phone for some reason, in which case restoring stock software is advised.
Thank you
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If I understand things correctly -- and I may not -- a GSM carrier's "plan" is tied to the SIM card.
With that assumption, you can move the SIM card from the HD2 to the MT4G without T-Mobile's involvement. Whatever agreements you have with T-Mobile will remain in force, assuming the phone is capabile of providing those services. You could also go the other way, and move the SIM to a lower end "feature phone" and be limited to text only, as such a phone doesn't have Data capability. But you or your company would be paying on the same plan.
If you are switching SIMs for any reason -- for instance, keeping the HD2 as a personal phone, then T-Mobile would have to provision the new SIM. Using this scenario, they might recommend moving the HD2's SIM into the MT4G for use as your business phone, and putting the MT4G's SIM into the HD2 and provisioning it with a personal plan.
Rooting and using a custom ROM have no bearing on your carrier plan. Unless you need to return the phone for some reason, in which case restoring stock software is advised.
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Thanks a lot for the quick reply.. My main issue is, T-mobile has different data plans for different category of phones, I currently use an HD2 like I told and the data works.. But when I tried using the same SIM in Android it did not work.. I was wondering how T-mobile will know what type of phone I am using...
I don't know how data works on HD2 (on Android).. I totally agree with your explanation, as I am not going to buy a myTouch 4G on contract from T-mobile, I am going to buy it off Craigslist so there will be no T-mobile involvement.. I called up T-mobile to check if I can change my data plan but they said I can't as only my Company can do that.. I cannot ask my company to change the data plan as that is out of the question..
I know its really a strange situation I am in, I am getting a my phone bill paid by my company and I have a data plan so I wanted to know if I can really make good use of it..
Thanks once again...
Hmmm. If the SIM from the Windows phone does not work for you in the Android phone, then there must be more to provisioning of "Data" than the SIM alone -- but moving the SIM should work fine for voice, sms, and mms (which don't use "data" services).
As I suggested, I might have been wrong.
the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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But anush.isaac has already reported that the SIM did not work in the Android phone. Hmmm.... he also said he is =going= to purchase. So I do not know what Android phone he tested the SIM in. If it was another carrier's locked phone, then that would be the reason for a failure.
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But anush.isaac has already reported that the SIM did not work in the Android phone. Hmmm.... he also said he is =going= to purchase. So I do not know what Android phone he tested the SIM in. If it was another carrier's locked phone, then that would be the reason for a failure.
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actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2. Currently loving the mt4g, though. and t-mobile never charged me any extra for the switch, it was just a matter of making things right in their system to get it working.
jmwils3 said:
actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2.
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Thats because blackberries have a different internet plan that uses blackberry's own servers as part of the APN. If he's coming from any other phone, his current internet plan should work
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Thats because blackberries have a different internet plan that uses blackberry's own servers as part of the APN. If he's coming from any other phone, his current internet plan should work
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Ok, sorry for confusing things, then. My bad.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
erickdj said:
the difference in data plans is nothing more than a marketing scheme. all you have to do is put the sim card from the HD2 into the mt4g and enjoy it, there's nothing else to it. That's the nice thing about using sim cards, no need to call the carrier to activate different phones, just pop your working sim into any phone(as long as it's unlocked or from the same carrier).
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jmwils3 said:
actually, I can report, having come from a blackberry with a blackberry data plan, that it DID take a call to t-mobile to get switched to an android data plan before my internet would fully work on my new (then) g2. Currently loving the mt4g, though. and t-mobile never charged me any extra for the switch, it was just a matter of making things right in their system to get it working.
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Hi all,
Thank you very much for the much needed insight... I first apologize for confusing many... Let me tell you the updates..
* I have a data plan called T-mobile Smartphone Unlimited+ 400 free msgs
* I called a T-mobile rep and asked him if I can go to the Android plan, but as I explained earlier I don't have the permissions/authority to change plans as its under my company name and he said he will need to talk to my company's internal phone services (which I don't want to happen..)
* The T-mobile rep also told my plan will work only on Windows based Smart phones that T-mobile offers..
* Currently my data(Internet/Browsing) works with my HD2 running on Android (maybe because it still sees it as a Windows device).
* The phone I tested my SIM was the Vibrant, and the Vibrant's data did not work with my SIM.
My question now, I just Observed, mt APN says TelKila, and I do not know if this has something to do with accessing the network, with my HD2 both APNs TelKila and epc.tmobile.com work.. Let me know your thoughts on this one...
anush.isaac said:
Hi all,
Thank you very much for the much needed insight... I first apologize for confusing many... Let me tell you the updates..
* I have a data plan called T-mobile Smartphone Unlimited+ 400 free msgs
* I called a T-mobile rep and asked him if I can go to the Android plan, but as I explained earlier I don't have the permissions/authority to change plans as its under my company name and he said he will need to talk to my company's internal phone services (which I don't want to happen..)
* The T-mobile rep also told my plan will work only on Windows based Smart phones that T-mobile offers..
* Currently my data(Internet/Browsing) works with my HD2 running on Android (maybe because it still sees it as a Windows device).
* The phone I tested my SIM was the Vibrant, and the Vibrant's data did not work with my SIM.
My question now, I just Observed, mt APN says TelKila, and I do not know if this has something to do with accessing the network, with my HD2 both APNs TelKila and epc.tmobile.com work.. Let me know your thoughts on this one...
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There shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't work. Was that vibrant you tried also a t-mobile phone or was it from a different carrier? Why not go to a t-mobile store and try your sim card on one of their demo mt4g's? That's about the only way to know for sure. I used the same sim card I had on my G1 for two years on my mt4g as soon as I took it out of the box and it worked fine.
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There shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't work. Was that vibrant you tried also a t-mobile phone or was it from a different carrier? Why not go to a t-mobile store and try your sim card on one of their demo mt4g's? That's about the only way to know for sure. I used the same sim card I had on my G1 for two years on my mt4g as soon as I took it out of the box and it worked fine.
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Yes the Vibrant is for T-mobile only.. When I called T-mobile they said that my current data plan only works for Windows based devices and if i want to use an Android Device I will have to change my data plan to an Android data plan that they have. Somehow T-mobile are able to find out what device I am using and they are able to filter my data service. Since I cannot change my current data plan I am stuck to using a Windows device!! BUMMER!!
If there is any workaround I will be more than happy to do it, so I can make data working on my Android phone...
I'm a T-Mobile employee (RSA), and I can confirm that the type of data plan (known as the SOC) matters. They're actually working to change that (the new "4G" SOCs work for everything except blackberry). What this also means is that if you were on a legacy/promo SOC and you change platforms, you may lose that promo/legacy rate (a good chat with customer service might help, but all the guys in the store can do is call customer service for you). I don't really know any more details as to how it works on the back end, but that's the end result.
Okay, first off, I will preface this thread and questions by stating that I come from cdma phone world. This glacier is my first GSM android and I find them absolutely facinating. Secondly, I am advanced in the tech sector, so I am asking these questions from a professional standpoint and any help or input is welcomed.
So on with the questions.
1.) For GSM phones, is there a utility application like CDMAworkshop and QPST that I can use to see the settings (radio and network settings is mostly what I am after).
Currently, I am aware of an app called SIM TOOLKIT but it only asks for a 8 digit unlock code for the SIM itself, not for the phone. I would like to change the settings of the quality of the calls, and just play around with stuff I am familiar with, or become familiar with.
2.) What is a IMSI, IMEI, and what does the GSM phone send to the carrier (provider network)? I know with CDMA phones, we just can read the memory and change serial numbers. But I have a tracfone sim card and a mytouch tmob phone. I want the mytouch to be able to use the phone portion but they keep disconnecting me, so I have to match my info to the other phone. I got it to work successfully time and time again, but I keep getting disconnected, and it looks like its by a human cause its not at all in sync with a timer or a pattern, at least I haven't noticed it. I know they can dc phones at will and I was just wondering what information they get when making that decision.
3.) Has anyone done a tracfone sim on a glacier (t-mobile mytouch 4g) before? I have the sim unlocked, s-off, root, and custom recovery. I have also changed the IMEI number. I know the process of opening it up in a binary program, using the command 'dd' to modify /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 cause thats where its located. Also there is a T-MOB010 carrier id in that file, should I be changing this to tracfone's CID (carrier ID) and if so, does anyone know that?
I know this is a bit advanced, hopefully someone out there will help me out. There is no funny business going on here, I am just trying to use my tracfone sim in my droid, both are my phones, one i bought from someone for cheap.
I get it to work but random times it will get Disconnected seems like a person. Talk and Text only is needed, not mobile network or 3g or 4g.
ALSO, concerning /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 that is where the IMEI is located... does anyone know any other locations of IMSI or IMEI numbers? I find this fascinating and would like to know what mmcblk0p7 stands for, and what part of the radio and firmware this makes up as well of other locations similiar to this.
birdisthewordfella said:
Okay, first off, I will preface this thread and questions by stating that I come from cdma phone world. This glacier is my first GSM android and I find them absolutely facinating. Secondly, I am advanced in the tech sector, so I am asking these questions from a professional standpoint and any help or input is welcomed.
So on with the questions.
1.) For GSM phones, is there a utility application like CDMAworkshop and QPST that I can use to see the settings (radio and network settings is mostly what I am after).
In the GSM world we just flash various radios. Those can be found the development forum.
Currently, I am aware of an app called SIM TOOLKIT but it only asks for a 8 digit unlock code for the SIM itself, not for the phone. I would like to change the settings of the quality of the calls, and just play around with stuff I am familiar with, or become familiar with.
2.) What is a IMSI, IMEI, and what does the GSM phone send to the carrier (provider network)? I know with CDMA phones, we just can read the memory and change serial numbers. But I have a tracfone sim card and a mytouch tmob phone. I want the mytouch to be able to use the phone portion but they keep disconnecting me, so I have to match my info to the other phone. I got it to work successfully time and time again, but I keep getting disconnected, and it looks like its by a human cause its not at all in sync with a timer or a pattern, at least I haven't noticed it. I know they can dc phones at will and I was just wondering what information they get when making that decision.
The IMEI is the serial number of the phone. Used for warranty purposes, and verification. [IIRC] The IMSI is the serial number of SIM card. IT is the serial number that T-Mobile would approve to allow your phone to connect to their network. I believe that Tracfone is a CDMA carrier. If that is the case the two different radio technologies are preventing you from using a GSM phone, on a CDMA network. Sort of like trying to get FM to play on a AM only radio.
3.) Has anyone done a tracfone sim on a glacier (t-mobile mytouch 4g) before? I have the sim unlocked, s-off, root, and custom recovery. I have also changed the IMEI number. I know the process of opening it up in a binary program, using the command 'dd' to modify /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 cause thats where its located. Also there is a T-MOB010 carrier id in that file, should I be changing this to tracfone's CID (carrier ID) and if so, does anyone know that?
If you are messing with the IMEI of the phone you are messing with stuff that can get you in a lot of trouble. And is punishable by law. You are not allowed to copy IMEI according to FCC standards.
I know this is a bit advanced, hopefully someone out there will help me out. There is no funny business going on here, I am just trying to use my tracfone sim in my droid, both are my phones, one i bought from someone for cheap.
I get it to work but random times it will get Disconnected seems like a person. Talk and Text only is needed, not mobile network or 3g or 4g.
ALSO, concerning /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 that is where the IMEI is located... does anyone know any other locations of IMSI or IMEI numbers? I find this fascinating and would like to know what mmcblk0p7 stands for, and what part of the radio and firmware this makes up as well of other locations similiar to this.
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I've answered to the best of my ability.
Your questions might be better addressed to the Tracfone subforum on HowardForums.
Tracfone locks the SIM to the phone. If you wanted to use your own phone, why in the world did you go with Tracfone?
If you want to get pay-by-the-minute service on your MT4G, go with T-Mobile prepaid or AT&T GoPhone. There are also other MVNOs of both T-Mo and AT&T that do allow you to bring your own device.
If you plan on using data, your best speeds will be found on T-Mobile or its MVNO Simple Mobile due to hardware radio compatibility.
neidlinger said:
I believe that Tracfone is a CDMA carrier. If that is the case the two different radio technologies are preventing you from using a GSM phone, on a CDMA network. Sort of like trying to get FM to play on a AM only radio.
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Yes, thank you very much. As far as tracfone goes, its both a CDMA and GSM carrier, I do believe if you get a leased number from them you will get either verizon (which will be a cdma phone) or you will get AT&T (which I currently have) one and that will even display AT&T when porting it over.
I don't have a lot of money and the job market is dry so until I save enough up to move then I just research the tech that I can get my hands on, this is a good way to learn, which brings me to my next question to your reply...
HAS ANYONE EVER GOT IN TROUBLE FOR THIS??? I'm not selling or distributing or even trying to access anything i'm not supposed to to benefit or gain by taking away so I'm just curious if there have been any cases where they show up from someone just tinkering... by 'they' i mean the fuzz.
And for the AT&T go phone, their sims are better? could I just pull that out and put it in my glacier?
Thanks guys.
birdisthewordfella said:
And for the AT&T go phone, their sims are better? could I just pull that out and put it in my glacier?
Thanks guys.
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If you go with AT&T GoPhone, the key is to just buy a SIM - not a GoPhone itself. The phones that come with airtime bonuses are locked to the SIM for some number of months. If you buy just a SIM you can use it in any phone. Voice calls are 10¢/min. If you buy $100 in airtime you get a 1-year expiry, but all other denominations are shorter and would lead to a higher annual spend if you stick with them.
If you go with T-Mobile prepaid, get a SIM activation kit (both a SIM and an activation code included). If you buy a full $100 in airtime right off the bat, you get a 10¢/minute rate, 1-year expiry, *and* every top-up you make from that point onwards will have a 1-year expiry (even a $10 top-up). Or you can top up as little as $10 and get a 90-day expiry but a much higher per-minute rate.
It all really depends on your usage pattern - how many minutes and texts would you use? Do you have any interest in getting data?
If you end up switching and you have a balance left to burn in your TracFone account, you can always do so using SMS donation (look up Mobile Giving Foundation for a list of charities).
Yeh, i found what I am going to do, the go phone is .10c a min, or $2 a day for unlimited. That's not bad at all. They even have unlimited for $50 /mo. So I'm definitely doing that. Thanks for the suggestion. Btw, that unlimited is voice text and DATA!
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Yeh, i found what I am going to do, the go phone is .10c a min, or $2 a day for unlimited. That's not bad at all. They even have unlimited for $50 /mo. So I'm definitely doing that. Thanks for the suggestion. Btw, that unlimited is voice text and DATA!
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t-Mobile?
It's a 2Gb cap then they throttle your speed back to "EDGE" speeds... don't get to happy.
they don't sell gophone cards online, so I'm taking my phone to the at&t store, wish me luck
birdisthewordfella said:
they don't sell gophone cards online, so I'm taking my phone to the at&t store, wish me luck
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you'll only get EDGE speeds all the time then.
AT&T Prepaid Go Phone Sim Cards are available online.
Use the ebay link. You Can also activate it online.
Check out this one
This is much better, 2 bucks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001ONWGMC
I am switching from my old Nexus 6 to a brand new Moto G5 Plus. I am with the carrier Total Wireless which is a Verizon MVNO. Their cellular service and pricing is excellent. Their CSRs are low functioning. What I want to know is if I can just pop out the SIM from my old phone and put it into my new one without any issues. They both take the same size SIM and they're both compatible with Verizon. I won't have to buy a new SIM card or anything like that, will I? I ask because a CSR told me that the SIM cannot be removed and is part of the phone so I would have to buy a new one. Yeah...I know. It was painful. I just left the chat. Thanks in advance for the help!
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I am switching from my old Nexus 6 to a brand new Moto G5 Plus. I am with the carrier Total Wireless which is a Verizon MVNO. Their cellular service and pricing is excellent. Their CSRs are low functioning. What I want to know is if I can just pop out the SIM from my old phone and put it into my new one without any issues. They both take the same size SIM and they're both compatible with Verizon. I won't have to buy a new SIM card or anything like that, will I? I ask because a CSR told me that the SIM cannot be removed and is part of the phone so I would have to buy a new one. Yeah...I know. It was painful. I just left the chat. Thanks in advance for the help!
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As long as sim is not locked then you should be able to put it in the g5+, log in to your total wireless account on WiFi and input your IMEI or MEID (which ever is longer) into your account for that SIM, and boom your rocking. You might not even have to do all that sometimes popping the SIM in just works.
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As long as sim is not locked then you should be able to put it in the g5+, log in to your total wireless account on WiFi and input your IMEI or MEID (which ever is longer) into your account for that SIM, and boom your rocking. You might not even have to do all that sometimes popping the SIM in just works.
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OK, cool. Thanks! Do you have experience with this? I ask because I have not seen anywhere on the website where I can edit the existing IMEI in my account. All I see is their Compatibility Checker.
Sorry I just assumed, not helpful I know that's just how it's been for me with other. Carriers. Sorry about to bad answer. Sounds like they must lock the SIM to the phone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoContract/comments/4zzx47/total_wireless_sim_swapping_and_tethering/
According to that you can just pop in the Card though.
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance
redman321 said:
Sorry I just assumed, not helpful I know that's just how it's been for me with other. Carriers. Sorry about to bad answer. Sounds like they must lock the SIM to the phone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoContract/comments/4zzx47/total_wireless_sim_swapping_and_tethering/
According to that you can just pop in the Card though.
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance
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Well, I do appreciate the effort! That's more than I could find. When my new Moto G5 Plus comes in I'll pop my existing SIM in and go from there. I figure if it doesn't work I'll just play stupid, tell them my phone was working then all of a sudden it isn't and make them fix it. Worst comes to worst, I have to buy a new SIM for a dollar or whatever. Thanks again! I'll report back here with the conclusion
I bought a new unlocked phone for Total Wireless but it used a different SIM size. Once I put the new sim card in the new phone, I logged into my Total Wireless account online, clicked the upgrade to new device and went through the steps. Once I completed that I powered up the new device and it worked.
Hope this helps in some way.
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I bought a new unlocked phone for Total Wireless but it used a different SIM size. Once I put the new sim card in the new phone, I logged into my Total Wireless account online, clicked the upgrade to new device and went through the steps. Once I completed that I powered up the new device and it worked.
Hope this helps in some way.
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I don't see "upgrade to new device" anywhere listed on the site. Can you direct me more specifically? Thanks.
adamshumpisxxx said:
I don't see "upgrade to new device" anywhere listed on the site. Can you direct me more specifically? Thanks.
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Log into your account. It should be at the account options screen. If not, click on link to the left.
Once that comes up, click on view details. It should list your phone. Over to the right it should give you the option to upgrade the device.
If it doesn't then something is most likely wrong with the account and you'll need to get in touch with Customer Service.
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Log into your account. It should be at the account options screen. If not, click on link to the left.
Once that comes up, click on view details. It should list your phone. Over to the right it should give you the option to upgrade the device.
If it doesn't then something is most likely wrong with the account and you'll need to get in touch with Customer Service.
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Can you post a screenshot or something? Nothing you're saying is even remotely on this site. Are we talking about the same company?! Also, I just got a hold of them and now they are demanding I buy a new SIM card because apparently I can't transfer service to a new phone. That makes ZERO sense. Do you have to be UNDER a certain IQ to work for this company or what?!
So the verdict is in. With Total Wireless you CAN pop out the SIM from your old phone and put it into your new one BUT...there is an issue. The old phone's IMEI stays associated with the SIM you just put into your new phone. That will never be an issue should you just put the phone into the "old phone drawer" but it MAY become an issue if you sell or give away your phone to be used with Verizon or another Verizon MVNO. From what I gather, that IMEI will show as in use and not allow another user to register it with a new SIM. Will it matter if you go with AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, etc...? I'm unsure but from what I gather, I doubt it. The really dumb part about this whole thing is Total Wireless's unwillingness to just unregister the old IMEI from your current SIM and register a new one. From speaking to a Verizon representative this is totally possible but Total Wireless refuses to do it. Instead they demand you buy a new SIM card. I assume this is from complete ignorance as their CSRs are almost completely inept. It's the best "bang for your buck" company to go with when you want / need Verizon service but if you need help...may the force be with you. Put it this way...They didn't even know what an APN was and insisted it was only a single word long (not even the right word).
I have two Moto G5 Plus's that I bought from Best Buy on the same day at the same time. I checked both IMEIs about 2 months ago to see if they were compatible both where. Now that my auto for ATT Gophone got turned off in time bought the CDMA sim kit. I went online to activate. Total Wireless said one is compatible and one is not. I called customer support and talked to a supervisor still got same thing. Was told if the phone wasnt activated on VZW then it would be unable to work. I told her both have been on ATT since day one. WTF! So looks like I am staying with ATT.