Dear Developers and ROM Cookers,
Is there a chance to ever have a WM7 rom for HD Mini?
I know Microsoft recommends 1GHz Snapdragon or faster, but i'm sure the 600 MHz Qualcomm's computing power should be fairly enough at least for running the OS.
(I mean, come on, some years ago, we all had old PC's with CPU's slower than this, still able to run Win98 )
384 MB of RAM should be more than enough.
I think the major drawback is the HVGA resolution: indeed, to my knowledge, no WM7 phone was released in 480x320, in fact all i've seen are on 800x480.
Hence, i have no idea what device's ROM should/could be used as a basis.
I'm a programmer myself but have no experience whatsoever with WM, that's why i'm asking this (dumb?) question: is it possible to addapt the OS from one device to the other (e.g. Mozart to HD Mini), though the CPU and screen res are different?
Is the OS so highly hard-coded that memory mapping, resolution and HW button functions are impossible to be changed via some config files?
Thanks for taking time to give it a thought!
no i don't think that the mini will able to use Windows phone 7.
johnsk said:
no i don't think that the mini will able to use Windows phone 7.
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Thank you johnsk for your reply. Reading all throughout similar threads, i understand it's very complicated or even impossible to addapt ROM's from one device to the other, especially when HW specs are different.
My question though, for whoever is willing to share the detailed reasons, is:
Are the HW-specific configurations in a ROM (e.g. resolution, memory mapping, HW buttons etc) hard-coded in the ROM, or are they accessible via configuration files?
I mean, Microsoft ships the raw OS to the phone manufacturer.
Later on, development teams of e.g. HTC R&D are tweaking and addapting the raw OS to the device itself.
My question to the knowledgeable ROM cookers and developers is: can those tweaks be reverse-engineered so that a shipped ROM can be modified to fit another device, OR can we maybe get our hands on the raw OS as it comes out of M$, then configure it ourselves?
Thanks!
WP7 won't come to our HD Mini. Indeed, the Snapdragon's computing speed isn't a big deal. That would only be handy to use apps (because those are designed for it). The real problem is that Microsoft only impelemented Snapdragon support. So our Qualcomm CPU is not supported and so not recognized by the OS, making it impossible to ever run WP7. The only very little chance to maybe ever run WP7 is by hacking the OS and add Qualcomm support or make a workaround to evide the Snapdragon checks.
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WP7 won't come to our HD Mini. Indeed, the Snapdragon's computing speed isn't a big deal. That would only be handy to use apps (because those are designed for it). The real problem is that Microsoft only impelemented Snapdragon support. So our Qualcomm CPU is not supported and so not recognized by the OS, making it impossible to ever run WP7. The only very little chance to maybe ever run WP7 is by hacking the OS and add Qualcomm support or make a workaround to evide the Snapdragon checks.
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Thank you so much MadMatt for taking the time to explain.
Bad news for the Mini and for us who like its small size yet powerfull enough HW.
Well, at least we have you and the other dedicated Chefs who squeeze as much juice as possible out of the old WM 6.5.x for us
Thanks again and keep up the good work!
yea, thats sad , that we cant get wm7 on our phone also. But hopefuly will get android working 100%
madmat thank-you very much for Your helps.
am always following the progress of installing Android on photon. and that guys thérèse need à big help after cotulla's stop. we need professional developpers. or we need somebody to talk with cotulla to continue what he starts.
am posting here cause i dont have the access to post there.
so plz all developpers go there at Android on photon thread, and give our friends the help.
Kind of off topic but as you can't access the thread, I understand it. I contacted 2 devs that helped porting Android to the HD2 (that should be very experienced ones), but got no reply yet...
Do you REALLY want WM7 on the Mini?
I've not had a long play with WM7, but i really can't see that it makes any massive jumps in terms of technology and user integration. The mini is fantastic in terms of speed, weight, size screen, WM6.5 makes the phone slow, difficult to use, and lacking in useful content. I cant imagine moving to WM7 would really help!
Vannystick said:
Do you REALLY want WM7 on the Mini?
I've not had a long play with WM7, but i really can't see that it makes any massive jumps in terms of technology and user integration. The mini is fantastic in terms of speed, weight, size screen, WM6.5 makes the phone slow, difficult to use, and lacking in useful content. I cant imagine moving to WM7 would really help!
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I agree!! WP7 it is very closed
всем привет у кого на каммуникаторе стоит прошивка виндовс мобиле 7 тоесть семерка если есть то дайте ссылку на скачивание файла установлю беспроблем английский знаю помогите с прошивкой ессли есть у cottula то дайте поскарей
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всем привет у кого на каммуникаторе стоит прошивка виндовс мобиле 7 тоесть семерка если есть то дайте ссылку на скачивание файла установлю беспроблем английский знаю помогите с прошивкой ессли есть у cottula то дайте поскарей
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haha ENGLISH
Related
what do you guys think about the wm6.5 will it do good?
i think it will be a flop like vista. the os must be fast and react good so far i have seen the wm is now the baddest os. the android seems better the iphone os is on of the fastest that i have seen. why dont they start over again make a new kernel?????
for example the xperia has a lot of ram and mhz but it still react slow sometimes i had a htc elf and that was almost even fast as the experia how come.
maybe they have fixt it in wm6.6 but in barcelona they wheren't impressed the new interface was slow and crashed sometimes (ok i know it is beta).
i would like to run android on xperia
ok so let me hear your opinions
and sorry for my bad english
it use the same ce core wm have been using since wm5 == CE5
so don't expect better response or performance
and since it's a ui makeover more likely the opposite
wm7 will use CE6 so that may be a diff story
this is unlike vista vs. windows7 as they use the same core which is newer then xp and 2000 used
ok so you say the diff between 6.1 and 6.5 won't be so much. did microsoft told about the changes and diff between them? i'm very curious about it only thing that i see is a little bit changes in the ui (and is still not great) but they didnt say anything about performence for example.
Rudegar said:
it use the same ce core wm have been using since wm5 == CE5
so don't expect better response or performance
and since it's a ui makeover more likely the opposite
wm7 will use CE6 so that may be a diff story
this is unlike vista vs. windows7 as they use the same core which is newer then xp and 2000 used
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You say this, but even using the same core Windows 7 and Windows Vista have significant performance differences.
It is still possible that employing a different UI implementation tactic this version of WinMo could be improved, performance wise.
alias_neo said:
You say this, but even using the same core Windows 7 and Windows Vista have significant performance differences.
It is still possible that employing a different UI implementation tactic this version of WinMo could be improved, performance wise.
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good windows mobile for me
8125 clanker running on wm6r5
I have an old 8125 clanker.
I upgraded from 6.1 to wm6r5 full final cooked by mfrazzz. It has limited memory resource (to start with: storage=25MB & Program=22MB).
I have it overclock to 240 MHz and using oxios hibernate.
I have installed other apps/plugins into a SD card.
I can run multiple apps that reduce the memory to 7-8 MB and find it very stable compared to when I was using 6.1. Of course, if I find my memory is to low then I will start to close other apps.
I am not sure how it relates to devices with 400 MHz with more memory. I could only guess that there might not be much improvement in performance, but for us with limited resource and slow processor I felt that there is beneficial improvement to move from 6.1 to 6.5
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You say this, but even using the same core Windows 7 and Windows Vista have significant performance differences.
It is still possible that employing a different UI implementation tactic this version of WinMo could be improved, performance wise.
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This is completely true. As many can attest, Windows 7's performance is much better than Vista. Likewise, I would imagine Windows Mobile has the same potential. Microsoft simply needs to tweak it for performance. The question is will they do it?
8525Smart said:
........ Microsoft simply needs to tweak it for performance. The question is will they do it?
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they have to! if they still want to sell wm... or else many phone manufacturers will use different os.
i found this on the blog of jkontherun
jkontherun
HD2 SUCKS:
The processor support OpenGLES v.1.1 and 2.0, but HTC decided that they was enough generous to put a super cpu into their pda, they were lazy to develop the GLES 1.1 and 2.0 support for it!
You can try to run the old GLES games and GL Benchmark, it will run on HTC HD2, that means it has only GLES 1.0 support!
You aren't surprised, are you? HTC always ship powerful hardware without any of the drivers necessary to actually use it. If you want to actually use the hardware you've paid for, don't buy from HTC.
Wtf does that mean?
Do you think XDA developpers will solve this problem !?
Zepiii said:
Wtf does that mean?
Do you think XDA developpers will solve this problem !?
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Unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikely.
Instead of posting the same thing in multiple forums, can you post a link to this DEMO so that other people can try it too, as I've searched and cant find it.
Cheers
More info or any new about this?
That's scaring me about buying my HD2
looks like a troll tbh all his other posts are about how much better his samsung ominia is compared to X phone.
It does support gles 2.0, but sadly, again there is no compatibility with other devices. Maybe htc will release a well documented sdk about gles 2.0 in the future, or you can buy it directly from them.
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Instead of posting the same thing in multiple forums, can you post a link to this DEMO so that other people can try it too, as I've searched and cant find it.
Cheers
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I do hope others will produce a cool demo for hd2 too, cause it does not work in the general way.
There exists a specific qualcomm gles 2.0 demo game, that only runs on hd2.
http://www.southend.se/games/electopia/index.php
Its very sad. My gles 2 apps arent run on hd2, but run on iphone 3gs, i8000 and acer f1.
...er?
People have already performed GLBench 1.1 benchmarks, which runs on OpenGL ES 1.1. We already know the HD2 supports hardware-accelerated OpenGL ES 1.0 and 1.1.
The only thing that's unknown is OpenGL ES 2.0. I'm not sure if this is what you were trying to say or not, it's very hard to understand your broken English (I understand English may not be your first language, but I think you might need to be a bit more clear in the future)
I don't know if there are any OpenGL ES 2.0 benchmarks out there. If somebody finds one, and has an HD2 handy, maybe they can try it out for us?
HD2 isn't a game console, don't forget it. And to be honest, best games are generally the simpliest one like PocketUNO for example. It's sometimes great to have game like Xtrak/NFS, but when i really want to virtually driv, i prefer to play NFS on my computer
Btw, can someone confirm the game isn't running on a HD2 ?
Then, anyone having enough knowledge in HTC know if we can adapt it? XDA is the paradise of what HTC forget !
Also, i check the Toshiba TG01 looks nice, but he miss thing that the HD2 has... HD2 stays the perfect mobile for me compared to the others !
See ya.
Taril, as an I8000 owner, I'd love to know which apps you are talking about that will run on the Omnia II, but not on the HD2!?
The I8000 has plenty of it's own GLES problems (as a quick look at the stickies on i8000.modaco.com will show anyone). Chainfire et al are doing a great job of writing the drivers that Samsung couldn't be bothered with, so I'd be very surprised if there is LESS support out of the box for the HD2 than the I8000...
I currently have an HD2 on order to replace my I8000, but if you seriously think you can convince me, I'd be more than happy to save £500...
If the device can run Electopia it can run openGL ES 2.0
http://www.southend.se/games/electopia/download.php
Can someone try?
working great on hd2...
yes, it is running nice and smooth
Then it support GLES 2
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Then it support GLES 2
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Says who?
Maybe the game uses 1.0 in case of HD.
I didn't check out the site very but I didn't see anything about OpenGL ES 2.0 being REQUIRED to run the game (which obviously would hurt it's selling potential...).
Speaking of Benchmarks... Anyone know which test is used here and where to find it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htj8r1gWgc&NR=1
The HD2 is doing well... ;-)
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Says who?
Maybe the game uses 1.0 in case of HD.
I didn't check out the site very but I didn't see anything about OpenGL ES 2.0 being REQUIRED to run the game (which obviously would hurt it's selling potential...).
Speaking of Benchmarks... Anyone know which test is used here and where to find it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2htj8r1gWgc&NR=1
The HD2 is doing well... ;-)
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Really?
Read again:
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Platform: Qualcomm Snapdragon™ 8k
OS: Windows Mobile 6.1
Graphics Support: OpenGL ES 2.0
Screen Resolution: 800 x 480
Free RAM: 40 MB
Size on disk (installed): 14 MB
Touch Input
from the youtube video posted by the developers of the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCwtOioGR8c
"This is one of the worlds first WVGA OpenGLES 2.0 games developed specifically for Qualcomm's Adreno 200 graphics core by Southend and Qualcomms Advanced Content Group. This next generation game i... "
This game requires OpenGL ES 2. period.
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Really?
Read again:
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
Platform: Qualcomm Snapdragon™ 8k
OS: Windows Mobile 6.1
Graphics Support: OpenGL ES 2.0
Screen Resolution: 800 x 480
Free RAM: 40 MB
Size on disk (installed): 14 MB
Touch Input
from the youtube video posted by the developers of the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCwtOioGR8c
"This is one of the worlds first WVGA OpenGLES 2.0 games developed specifically for Qualcomm's Adreno 200 graphics core by Southend and Qualcomms Advanced Content Group. This next generation game i... "
This game requires OpenGL ES 2. period.
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Well OK, I hope you are right since I get mine in a few days
Thanks for confirming it works guy's, so much for the OP claiming his Omnia II was flying whilst the HD failed
Hey guys i just recently got the touch pro 2 for verizon. and wanted to know if their was anyway i can put the android os on this phone or at least add xtra stuff onto the phone. help would be greatly appriecated thanks.
leonb1983 said:
Hey guys i just recently got the touch pro 2 for verizon. and wanted to know if their was anyway i can put the android os on this phone or at least add xtra stuff onto the phone. help would be greatly appriecated thanks.
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Return it and buy a Droid.
the touch pro 2 is more superior than the droid. personally id stick with windows mobile.
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the touch pro 2 is more superior than the droid. personally id stick with windows mobile.
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In some ways - most notably the keyboard. In other ways, such as the bigger, higher resolution capacitive touch screen, the MUCH faster processor, and the thinner build, the Droid is superior.
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In some ways - most notably the keyboard. In other ways, such as the bigger, higher resolution capacitive touch screen, the MUCH faster processor, and the thinner build, the Droid is superior.
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Lets cross out the resolution. The touch pro 2 has a 800x480 screen. The droid is only 54pixels bigger. And at the screen size the droid is at that doesn't count for much.
DeekoVB5 said:
In some ways - most notably the keyboard. In other ways, such as the bigger, higher resolution capacitive touch screen, the MUCH faster processor, and the thinner build, the Droid is superior.
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Seriously 480X800 vs 480 x 854 pixels and 3.6 vs 3.7 is not noticeable at all.
Also the Droid has a 550 Mhz processor while the Touch Pro 2 has a 528 Mhz... I hardly consider that superior. Especially with all the issues the Droid has been getting!
leonb1983 said:
Hey guys i just recently got the touch pro 2 for verizon. and wanted to know if their was anyway i can put the android os on this phone or at least add xtra stuff onto the phone. help would be greatly appriecated thanks.
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I'm assuming you haven't looked into flashing a new rom to your phone, this would significantly improve your phone's performance, as far as adding extras to your phone, after flashing a new rom you could install Window's Marketplace (the install file will come with your rom most likely) and download whatever you want just like the Android Market and Apple's Appstore.
You will first need Hard-SPL, read this thread and take care of that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578660
Next, find a compatible ROM for your device, I would recommend this one:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=86491
I don't have a Touch Pro Two, but I have flashed Windows Mobile ROMs for an AT&T Fuze and a Sprint Touch Pro and I know the process is very similar so if you wanna try this and need any help let me know
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I'm assuming you haven't looked into flashing a new rom to your phone, this would significantly improve your phone's performance, as far as adding extras to your phone, after flashing a new rom you could install Window's Marketplace (the install file will come with your rom most likely) and download whatever you want just like the Android Market and Apple's Appstore.
You will first need Hard-SPL, read this thread and take care of that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578660
Next, find a compatible ROM for your device, I would recommend this one:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=86491
I don't have a Touch Pro Two, but I have flashed Windows Mobile ROMs for an AT&T Fuze and a Sprint Touch Pro and I know the process is very similar so if you wanna try this and need any help let me know
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EnergyROM works really fine on HTC Touch Pro. You can easily find that ROM and test. That of course Windows Mobile but You can also try how Android works. Greetings
android 2.0 is the same as these mentioned ROM's
Not clear on the replies. I have a Sprint touch pro2 and would also like Android 2.0 instad of winmo 6.1
How do I get it
thanks
Its windows
First and up most android is better more apps open source larger community cant get done for modding and android looks better. Secondly its windows come on blue screen of death lol. and thirdly last search in google i remember them saying yes you can run android on a windows mobile phone if i find the link again i will post it.
old news android on windows mobile
heresitrunnn on a widows mobile device in 2008!!!!! http://pocketnow.com/software-1/googles-android-runs-on-windows-mobile
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heresitrunnn on a widows mobile device in 2008!!!!! http://pocketnow.com/software-1/googles-android-runs-on-windows-mobile
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Android is phone specific. You need an android build that supports the touch pro2. 1 Rom doesn't fit all. Its the same for android custom roms and window mobile roms. You can't install a touch pro2 rom on a touch pro.
biggest hw difference = capacitive vs. resistive screen. Not sure which (if any) HTC phones have this obviously superior input capability yet...
droids are suffering from build related issues though. Most notably is a BSOD condition that requires connecting up to the charger to fix (even pulling the battery doesn't help). Also the audio jacks are breaking. Sounds a lot like the TyTN was....
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Seriously 480X800 vs 480 x 854 pixels and 3.6 vs 3.7 is not noticeable at all.
Also the Droid has a 550 Mhz processor while the Touch Pro 2 has a 528 Mhz... I hardly consider that superior. Especially with all the issues the Droid has been getting!
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I don't know the exact processor in the Touch Pro 2, but if it is the same 528 processor in the G1, Mytouch, and MoTo Click then the DROID processor is far superior. It is based in a different architecture and actually has a GPU (Separate Graphics processor).
If it is the same 528 processor, then yes the DROID is far superior.
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I don't know the exact processor in the Touch Pro 2, but if it is the same 528 processor in the G1, Mytouch, and MoTo Click then the DROID processor is far superior. It is based in a different architecture and actually has a GPU (Separate Graphics processor).
If it is the same 528 processor, then yes the DROID is far superior.
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The DROID uses an ARM Cortex A8 based processor (the TI OMAP343) while the Touch Pro 2 (and basically all HTC devices other than the HD2) use the much older and much slower ARM11 processor (Qualcomm MSM72xx). Even though the clock speeds are similar (550 vs 528mhz) you can expect real world performance to be 200-400% improved with the OMAP3, due in part to the new ARM CPU and in part to the much better GPU and DSP.
leonb1983 said:
Hey guys i just recently got the touch pro 2 for verizon. and wanted to know if their was anyway i can put the android os on this phone or at least add xtra stuff onto the phone. help would be greatly appriecated thanks.
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And here's how you do it:
http://alldroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=470
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Seriously 480X800 vs 480 x 854 pixels and 3.6 vs 3.7 is not noticeable at all.
Also the Droid has a 550 Mhz processor while the Touch Pro 2 has a 528 Mhz... I hardly consider that superior. Especially with all the issues the Droid has been getting!
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The bigger point with the screen is capactive vs resistive, which is a VERY big difference.
As for the processor, mhz numbers don't tell the whole story. The HTC phones use a Qualcomm processor based on ARM11, the Droid uses a chip based on Cortex A8 - the A8 is CONSIDERABLY faster than ARM11 at the same clock speed.
Article on the subject, written by the founder of Anandtech: http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/14/core-values-the-silicon-behind-android/
Tp2.....hands down
Isnt this topic called Android on TP2????
I dont see any forum that has a topic called WM6.5 on Android.....Not even close.
So whats far more superior?!? A device that can emulate another os and more.
I think with a custom rom on my touch pro 2 is more than sufficient. The droid technology isn't up to its full potential yet. They are obviously headed in the right direction and the cosmetic aspect is enough to attract the average buyer. But for what counts the most I feel like the droid phones are about a quarter of the way up the mountain.
First off, I apologize for the other people's lack of response to the article at hand. As for the other people who did post links to Android on Windows Mobile, those links will not work as Android installations are device specific. Meaning and installation on one device probably wont work well for another.
Also, for those of you who posted instructions on flashing custom ROMs. While this may be a great idea for the time being, an Android installation can be run on basically any ROM. It doesn't matter if it is stripped or if it's the crap stock ROM. Once the Android image boots, it kicks Winmo off, and all processor and virtual memory goes to Android. So it is not an emulation, although it is booted from Winmo.
The Touch Pro 2 falls under the HTC Rhodium category on XDA-Developers, so most of your information on it, including Android ports, would be listed there. I did a quick Google search and found a thread with a bounty to get support for the TP2, so it should only be a matter of time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=596370
Hello to everybody.
I read somewhere that the cpu on hd2 is set slower than the maximum.
Is it true? there's a possibility to benchmark it or not?
If true I suppose it is necessary to use cooked roms (when available) to set it to 1 GHz and so obtain the top performance...
I am asking it because I am a newbie of the forum, of windows mobile and smartphone in general...
Thanks a lot.
don't believe everything that you read.
AFAIK there's no benchmark that supports snapdragon, so how can it possibly say what the processor is, never mind what speed it runs at?
***EDIT*** I speak too soon..
looks like sktools does support snapdragon in it's benchmark in the latest version:
Integer test..
I got 812.05
theres a HTC TOUCH HD2 WM6.5
Qualcomm (R) QSD8258B 1GHZ
as one of the comparison devices..
it scores 813.45
DAMN MY HD2 is slow ****
**** ROFL as if
to be exact, it totally doesn`t matter for me, but>
i read somewhere, that snapdragon is going to be (or it is) used in some subnotebooks or whatever are they calling... and for PDA`s is underclocked from 1,3 GHz to 1024 MHz... don`t know if it is true...
the CPU is not "underclocked"
but the problem is that inbuild graphic accelerator is not working, HTC did not supply drivers for some reason(some say legal issues)
i really dont get it.. why they build something in this mobile phone, when they dont want to use it.. are they $%#@!!**%# or what i just hope, some "masterhacker" will make a driver for this baby and we will have a real "unleashed beast"
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the CPU is not "underclocked"
but the problem is that inbuild graphic accelerator is not working, HTC did not supply drivers for some reason(some say legal issues)
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o-h-m-y-g-o-d... really?so I have the confirm that in HTC are doing a really bad job... I mean:we have the Ferrari but we use GPL instead of gasoline?
Wow another "HTC didn't supply the drivers" BULL**** thread! Can you stop spreading lies please?
Mods should closes this.
Bad drivers
It would not surprise me if the drivers were giving lower performance than possible.
This really did happen with the Touch Cruise which was painfully slow,
until Guys here developed some very good drivers, which made the TC perform at much higher speeds than originally.
Good news is that the same guys, Chainfire & Neo are working on improved drivers for graphics & processor.
Diamantes said:
o-h-m-y-g-o-d... really?so I have the confirm that in HTC are doing a really bad job... I mean:we have the Ferrari but we use GPL instead of gasoline?
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The new HTC Desire HD is now on HTC's website.
It is HD2 copy but with Android.
Nand on the way(?) when these are in XDA forum users hands.
the hardware is the same? I don't think soo :S
Snapdragon 8255 1gz
768MB of RAM
internal storage 1.5gb
and a battery 1230ma
8mpx
ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh I want one, I want one, I want one! or I'll settle for a nice android port.
really wana get a dump of the Desire HD so i can port it to the HD2, all those new widgets and apps, along with new camera app! easy port to be made
the desire hd is too easy to port like EVO....what I means is: EVO = HTC DESIRE HD
really hard to dump
No Hardware is a bit different, it uses a MSM8255 with a die size of 45nm instead of an QSD8250 CPU which die size is 65nm, this msm8255 CPU is based on the same core as the snapdragon QSD8250 of the HD2 and Desire, but will be more energy efficient.
It also features a possibility of 720P recording, probably it will do 720P HD playback as well with hardware acceleration in the CPU.
It features more RAM 786 instead of (unlocked HD2) 576MB. different screen, super LCD and last but not least, an 4GB internal flash drive and some features for faster booting.
Still hope we soon will find a really stable android release which will definitly replace WM6.5..
forgot to mention the (Dutch) source:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1777/5/...droid-hardware-een-4-komma-3-inch-scherm.html
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an 4GB internal flash drive]
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4GB... are you sure???
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire-3077.php
That says 1.5GB...
Nonetheless, 8mpx, faster loading time, more ram, more nand, blah blah blah, still pretty much = HD2 Android.
I urge everyone to wait for the new CPU man. It's RTM Q4/2010.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/08/qualcomm-1-5ghz-dual-core-snapdragon-devices-to-arrive-at-end-o/
The fake HD3 specs could true for some specs like 1Gb Ram Given the new Desire HD got 768mb ram.
Yeah.. Desire HD is Evo 4G...
and the spec is not that much different from HD2... even galaxy S got better spec then it (pity it got the iPhone wanna be looks,, hate it..)
I'll stick to HD2 until there's a big leap in Android phone...
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zelduy said:
Yeah.. Desire HD is Evo 4G...
and the spec is not that much different from HD2... even galaxy S got better spec then it (pity it got the iPhone wanna be looks,, hate it..)
I'll stick to HD2 until there's a big leap in Android phone...
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My thoughts too. a fast SD card could will do the trick, besides we'll always be able to use WM at any time.
Until something with a TP2 form factor comes out, I don't think I'm getting a new device. I really miss the keyboard. Resco KB is doing the trick in WM, but it's not like feeling the buttons.
And for God's sake, add some specs. HTC is becoming like Nokia, same hardware in different enclosure every few months.
dang you all . this is android development channel not ur chit chat channel. push this into the android development general thread. why dont noobs understand what and where to put things @@@@
dealer75 said:
I got one for testing purposes...
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Did you ever know that you're our hero? and you can fly higher than an Eagle and you are the wind between our legs?
What the deuce!!, just bought my HD2 4 weeks ago and still got my Nexus, Touch HD and Pro2 from last year lying around Curse you HTC, curse you!!!
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hi, can u get roms and post here....
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dealer75 said:
Nope, sorry, flashing is in a different department. We´re testing only our software on this devices to ensure the functionality on different enviroments. I can help only with pics and information which I can see in the device.
BTW, the Ace has a fullscreen watermark.
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is it possible for you to post the .apks from the phone. this will help in development .. only if its possible.
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No Hardware is a bit different, it uses a MSM8255 with a die size of 45nm instead of an QSD8250 CPU which die size is 65nm, this msm8255 CPU is based on the same core as the snapdragon QSD8250 of the HD2 and Desire, but will be more energy efficient.
It also features a possibility of 720P recording, probably it will do 720P HD playback as well with hardware acceleration in the CPU.
It features more RAM 786 instead of (unlocked HD2) 576MB. different screen, super LCD and last but not least, an 4GB internal flash drive and some features for faster booting.
Still hope we soon will find a really stable android release which will definitly replace WM6.5..
forgot to mention the (Dutch) source:
http://tweakers.net/reviews/1777/5/...droid-hardware-een-4-komma-3-inch-scherm.html
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using my computer knowledge, all these won't affect porting if they use same component for radio/IO/DSP/wireless/bluetooth/GPS...etc
die shrink usually means pin-to-pin compatibility.
dealer75 said:
Nope, sorry, flashing is in a different department. We´re testing only our software on this devices to ensure the functionality on different enviroments. I can help only with pics and information which I can see in the device.
BTW, the Ace has a fullscreen watermark.
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I guess you cannot disassemble them and look at chips inside then...
richteralan said:
I guess you cannot disassemble them and look at chips inside then...
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but what's the point? is it going to change anything...? all that we need is the rom dump and the rest is up to cooks.
btw, this thread is kinda pointless imho. we all know about release of desire hd and z.