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thinking to upgrade to samsung omnia 2

is this a right choice or i am wrong [samsung omnia 2] has 800 mhz processor instead of 528 mhz [htc hd has ] but does it differs allot in the speed of device and graphics please tell me and does the type of processor also make effect in speed [htc has qualcom --- samsung has marvell ]

hoss_n2 said:
is this a right choice or i am wrong [samsung omnia 2] has 800 mhz processor instead of 528 mhz [htc hd has ] but does it differs allot in the speed of device and graphics please tell me and does the type of processor also make effect in speed [htc has qualcom --- samsung has marvell ]
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I would better think about waiting for the Toshiba TG01! It has a 1GHz Snapdragon Processor and a 4.1inch screen!!!
You can see some preview videos on yout...! The video playback is extremely smooth and programs are starting right after clicking on it.
The TG01 also has a special screen from the television branch for a really good quality!
I´ll sell my Touch Hd next week on ebay and on 29.June or 30.June I´ll buy the Toshiba TG01 exclusive at the German O2 shop.
Ok the homescreen panel is not so beautiful but I am using the SPB Mobile Shell 3 so thats no problem for me

does anyone actually know what the battery life is like on the tg01, that is one of my major concerns.

The processor will make a difference, but the main reason for me to buy the Omnia 2 is the camera.
You won't have Touchflo anymore (at least for some time) but the Samsung software seems to be pretty good, perhaps even better than Touchflo (though I'm not a fan of cube interfaces).
I think the Omnia 2 will be the perfect phone for me with the better camera, a bit more speed and good battery life.

DRTigerlilly said:
does anyone actually know what the battery life is like on the tg01, that is one of my major concerns.
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I had already a pre-selling version of the white tg01 in my hands (damn is this a big device compared to my HD and iphone but has as half as the thickness of the HD!!!) but of course I wasn´t able to test the battery life. But I think it´ll be good because you can choose in the options menu of toshiba that the phone should itself automaticaly slow down the procesor if there is not much speed needed and the new screen should also use less battery life (so the man at the o2 store told me that with the screen so I don´t know if it´s real^^)
Does anyone knows any better facts about it?

very impressive processor speed, but how bout the ROM and RAM size. So far I have yet to see any device that matches HD's 512MB ROM and 288MB RAM (other than HTC own Window Mobile range). It may not be relevant but to me, I feel somehow that RAM/ROM play some part too..

I am also considering the Omnia 2. I like the faster processor and AMOLED display,which in theory is much better than HD, especially in outdoor.
However, there is no mention of its RAM or ROM. There is internal storage of 2 - 16GB but not sure if this is the same as ROM.
Also, HTC qualcom is supported by Coreplayer. Not sure if the Samsung processor will be. I know frame rate might not be a problem but if the hardware is not supported, picture quality will suffer.
I am concerned with the build quality of HTC HD as I have to service mine only after two months. A search on the net suggested there are a number of HD users with hardware problems also.
I just hope Samsung mobile phones have better quality.

forumx said:
I am also considering the Omnia 2. I like the faster processor and AMOLED display,which in theory is much better than HD, especially in outdoor.
However, there is no mention of its RAM or ROM. There is internal storage of 2 - 16GB but not sure if this is the same as ROM.
Also, HTC qualcom is supported by Coreplayer. Not sure if the Samsung processor will be. I know frame rate might not be a problem but if the hardware is not supported, picture quality will suffer.
I am concerned with the build quality of HTC HD as I have to service mine only after two months. A search on the net suggested there are a number of HD users with hardware problems also.
I just hope Samsung mobile phones have better quality.
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i think that the type of the processor also is important not only its speed [like computer processors we have two processors have same speed but one acts faster than the other it depends how it is made and the compatibility of the programs with it

KayK said:
very impressive processor speed, but how bout the ROM and RAM size. So far I have yet to see any device that matches HD's 512MB ROM and 288MB RAM (other than HTC own Window Mobile range). It may not be relevant but to me, I feel somehow that RAM/ROM play some part too..
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Rom and Ram size is nearly the same! 512MB Rom and 256MB RAM. (I´m talking about the Toshiba TG01
So I´ll wait till it comes out on the 29th this month in germany and then I´ll buy it...

Hey I found someting really interesting: The Acer M900!
What do you think about this device???

PocketNow said the acer felt cheap, and i think it has less memory than the HD, which is a bummer. The only upside about it are US 3g bands.

acer's soft ware sucks and no thing is like htc even the partially good samsung omnia 2

hoss_n2 said:
acer's soft ware sucks and no thing is like htc even the partially good samsung omnia 2
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Did you see the videos of TouchWiz 2.0? Looks like it goes a lot deeper than TouchFlo. I think the Omnia II could be a lot better than HTC's phones.

Ok I´ll forget the acer...80MB Ram
So I´ll buy the Toshiba TG01 when it´s available in Germany at the 29.06. and than I will see how good it is. If it´s not good enough I can also sell it somewhere and buy me the touch pro 2 instead of it

I used to have the omnia and would never buy a samsung again. Apart from the excellent camera I hated it particulary because of the poor battery life...I had to charge it everyday. Plus the touchscreen wasn't that responsive and I kept losing the stylus because there was no storage on the phone. Im happy with the HD at present albeit it's not perfect.

I just bought and sold a Samsung i8910 (Omnia HD). Symbian just doesnt cut it as a touchscreen OS for me.
However, the AMOLED screen was gorgeous, even though it was lower res than the HD, it still looked that little bit crisper and more vibrant. Definitely a feature worth looking into for our next devices. Omnia 2 looks the part, but Samsung have notoriously poor resale value compared to HTC/Nokia etc as well as not having ROM cooks like on xda (unless im mistaken..).

The i8910HD would have been the perfect phone with WM (or Android) instead of Symbian....
It's a shame that they put such a bad OS on the only phone with perfect hardware... I hate Samsung for this (but I'll probably buy the Omnia II anyway...).
The i900 Omnia is/was probably one ofthe best-selling WM device ever and there is some ROM-cooking going on, e.g. over at modaco.com.
I think with the Omnia II and Omnia HD, the Samsung community will grow a lot.

What is AMOLED and is it possible to run word excel etc files on symbian?

maati said:
Did you see the videos of TouchWiz 2.0? Looks like it goes a lot deeper than TouchFlo. I think the Omnia II could be a lot better than HTC's phones.
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it would be better in some things but not in all hd is bigger in screen touch flo is bitter and easier hd has extra rams to be used for graphics acceleration and enhance speed as said by gsm arena

Well, 0.1" doesn't matter, and it still has the same resolution. It has a faster processor, thus the RAM also won't matter, graphics acceleration will probably be faster.
TouchFlo is nice, but I think the Samsung interface is at least as good, it goes a lot deeper than TouchFlo (but doesn't look as nice).
I'm still undecided, maybe I'll stick with the HD and wait for something that's even better than the Omnia II.

Desire HD vs HD7

What are your thoughts on this new htc device and the WP7 OS and how does it compare?
Added poll ^

Well, we don't really know, as either none of us, so very very few, have even tested WP7.

Well the HD7 reportedly has less ram than the DesireHD 512MB over 768MB. And Runs of of the same CPU family that the HD does.
So at this stage the DesireHD looks better than the HD7 spec wise but its early days yet.

not 100% sure about specs but HD7 will be available earlier though its announced 1 month later than DesireHD, that's if DesireHD ever make it out of the warehouse...

It seems that the HD7 has a QSD8250 processor (same as the Desire) with adreno 200 GPU.
PS: Sorry for my bad english

nope its an MSM8250 chipset :-D almost identical to the CPU in the Desire HD
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-hd7-is-a-hd2-lookalike-with-windows-phone-7-and-720p-video/

Apache14 said:
nope its an MSM8250 chipset :-D almost identical to the CPU in the Desire HD
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actually alex is correct, it uses the old snapdragon found on the desire, nexus one, evo etc. It has the old adreno 200 gpu.
So because of that, and 200 MB less ram, the Desire HD still is HTC's best specced phone so far.

i will wait till january february to see if there will be dual core processors if not i will buy some good htc

A full list of the specs of the WP7 phones at the WP event
Notice they say the HTC parts are MSM chips (second gen snapdragons like in DesireHD) and the others LG ect are the old QSD chips (like the N1, Desire , EVO)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/

c4940 said:
i will wait till january february to see if there will be dual core processors if not i will buy some good htc
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Motorola will out their Tegra 2 in Q1 2011, while LG MIGHT roll out by the end of this year.

Im gunna wait untill i se how multi core mobile CPU's preform (battery usage / speed improvement). As i suspect we will have to wait untill the apps and OS are properly optimised for two cores.

Apache14 said:
Im gunna wait untill i se how multi core mobile CPU's preform (battery usage / speed improvement). As i suspect we will have to wait untill the apps and OS are properly optimised for two cores.
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Dalvik and most native apps are multi-threaded by design.

True .... so we should see huge improvements :-D but the Desire HD will do me for 12 monthes :-D

Apache14 said:
A full list of the specs of the WP7 phones at the WP event
Notice they say the HTC parts are MSM chips (second gen snapdragons like in DesireHD) and the others LG ect are the old QSD chips (like the N1, Desire , EVO)
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/windows-phone-7-handsets-the-tale-of-the-tape/
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If Engadget is right on this, then Apache is right too.
The QSD8250 is the first gen chip used in the Nexus One, Desire etc.
The MSM8250 is the 2nd gen chip and has Adreno 205.
The difference between the MSM8250 (HD7 etc) and the MSM8255 (DHD) is that the MSM8250 is a "world phone" chipset whereas the 8255 is solely for GSM use.
It's very confusing - but assuming that Engadget is right, that means that the WP7 phones are as fast as the DHD (though not as much RAM) but are available to use all over the world.

Yes, MSM8250 is GSM/CDMA capable, whereas MSM8255 is GSM only.

No such difference between the two devices. The same 4.3 inch screen (almostly confirmed tft) But DHD is better than hd7 on cpu and gpu.DHD with 8255 cpu and hd7 with 8250cpu (which same as hd2) 756ram>512RAM So i prefer desire hd with android os

freelo123 said:
No such difference between the two devices. The same 4.3 inch screen (almostly confirmed tft) But DHD is better than hd7 on cpu and gpu.DHD with 8255 cpu and hd7 with 8250cpu (which same as hd2) 756ram>512RAM So i prefer desire hd with android os
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Did you even read my post? They are the same chips, just the HD7 chip has CDMA capability as well as GSM. Same CPU core, same GPU core. Same speed, same die size.
The only difference between the DHD and the HD7 are the extra 256MB of RAM! (and the OS and case etc.. and camera! (thanks wu5262!))

DHD seems to have more metal parts in its casing.
Either way I guess we'll be seeing a lot of ports between these devices

dazultra2000 said:
Did you even read my post? They are the same chips, just the HD7 chip has CDMA capability as well as GSM. Same CPU core, same GPU core. Same speed, same die size.
The only difference between the DHD and the HD7 are the extra 256MB of RAM! (and the OS and case etc)
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The DHD has better camera too
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wywywywy said:
DHD seems to have more metal parts in its casing.
Either way I guess we'll be seeing a lot of ports between these devices
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Why on earth would you want to put WP7 on an Android device.
However, I hope someone here can bring WP7 to the HD2. Now that WOULD be amazing!

HTC Pyramid next Nexus device?

http://briefmobile.com/htc-pyramid-renders-leaked-next-nexus-device
What do you guys think?

What do I think? I think that will be my next phone. Especially if it's Vanilla.

It looks like a hot device & possible upgrade from the N1 someday! Here's the main thread discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939909

No trackball
Sent from my Nexus One

Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.

abccg said:
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
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Some sites are reporting dual 1.2GHz processors but at this point it's probably just speculation.

If its a dual core, its mine

My money is on the next Nexus device being made by Motorola.

I hope it's not a pentile display like the Atrix.

I really hope that image is a mock up. It's basically an extended nexus minus the trackball.
it looks nice, but not that sexy

Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.

dual core and a bigger screen ftw. (hope it's dual core)

GldRush98 said:
Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
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I would upgrade just to get a N1 with better/working touch.
That said, I prefer AMOLED.

HTC Pyramid will be first HTC's dual core phone. Looks good IMO

htc always rocks....
great devices

Everyone take a look at the back of it. We don't know if its a mock up picture or not, most likely, though I hope it will be like that when it comes to the states. But again, look at the back of your nexus one, then look at another android phone, then look at the pyramid picture. The google logo is google stand alone, which only dedicates to nexus line. Regular android phones don't have that
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No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?

gibosn6594 said:
No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?
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You might as well get used it, if my memory serves me correctly no recently released HTC Android device has a trackball. Actually, not just HTC, the trackball is almost non-existant on Android phones now.

Boswell20 said:
If its a dual core, its mine
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It's got a dual-core 1.2 (per core) Snapdragon aka Scorpion. It's the same SoC in the HP TouchPad; better than Tegra 2.
EDIT: It's way WORSE than Tegra 2..... it's a Cortex A8 device, with an underwhelming GPU
HTC Pyramid benchmarks
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/

Don't see the point of single-core, sub-1gb-RAM phones in 2011 ... seriously.
Tegra 3 is coming out in august for pads, christmas for phones. Hoping HTC makes a nice Nexus HD or something out of it for the holidays.
- Tegra 3
- 1gb DDR3
- 16-32gb internal
- micro-sd slot
- 3.7-4.0in HD screen
- no keyboard for the love of God
- same build quality as N1 (not some Dollar-store Nexus S plastic plz)
- NFC or not, don't really care since it won't be widely used until like 2014
- Some sort of LED notification area (not necessarily a trackball, but an LED which we can control the same we do now on the N1... it's MUCH NEEDED!)
- this is a personal choice, but the same button placement (BACK - MENU - HOME - SEARCH) would rock ... I know most phones now have the BACK and MENU inversed...
- Dock support would rock too (same 3-pin system, wtv...)
- Most importantly, Vanilla Android. At that point, I'm guessing it will be Ice Cream [Sandwich?] or J...jello? copyright... wtv... something J.
No use buying a single-core phone in 2011 ! stick to the N1 for now...

Windows phone 8

Hello Guys what do you think about the new Version of WP ...
Do you think it is Possible on our HD² ?
Mod Edit: Edited post to something readable...

OMG you just kill my eyes, who can this be possible

Hello Guys what do you think about my awesome choice of colour
do you think you will be able to see ever again!!

just read an article. confirmed that almost all if not, every single phone running WP7 will not be able to run WP8. WP7 users will get the 7.8 update. Adding some of the features of 8 to us 7 users.

My hd2
ayopancheezy said:
just read an article. confirmed that almost all if not, every single phone running WP7 will not be able to run WP8. WP7 users will get the 7.8 update. Adding some of the features of 8 to us 7 users.
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We all know by now that our lovely HD2 is either a wp7 or wp8 phone and not even an android phone yet we have seen it rock the mobile world just fine. I really hope the developer who have given my HD2 a very happy and long life will still push to the edge to see if there is any chance of getting wp8 on HD2.
Thank you and hoping for the best

after some research and some articles i have read today.
there's no chance to run WP8 on HD2. maybe we can get 7.8

as blackinaction said, the same was claimed for WP7 and we do have it now on our HD2. No one can be sure that we will not have WP8 also.

We'll see what cotulla say about wp8 on HD2 when first rom would be released.
btw MAGLDR 2.0 will be released soon.

i hope the HD2 sees the light of WP8. I hope there are more apps and everything.

I wouldn't hold my breath on further development on the HD2 beyond 7.8. Besides a handful of cooks development has come to a halt.

I think that WP8 will be available for our HD2 !! I think really !

Nixeus said:
I think that WP8 will be available for our HD2 !! I think really !
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Long live HD2, Windows Phone 8 will be here, let's pray

of course GOD cotulla will bring WP8 to HD2.:good:

Must...have!

will release today

Hardware limitations is the only factor that would prevent us from having wp8 on the hd2 but the chefs never cease to amaze me..
Long live the hd2 and prosper!:highfive:

blackinaction said:
We all know by now that our lovely HD2 is either a wp7 or wp8 phone and not even an android phone yet we have seen it rock the mobile world just fine. I really hope the developer who have given my HD2 a very happy and long life will still push to the edge to see if there is any chance of getting wp8 on HD2.
Thank you and hoping for the best
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Yes, that was what I thought. Imagine if HD2 could only be stuck in the jurassic WM 6.5 with Sense with all the hardware it has? Wow...
I put WM 8773 ROM in my HD2 (came out from 1,5years into WM6.5) and wow... It's simply incredible.
I think HD2 does have hardware to support WP8... Maybe not for some games, but in general, I'm pretty sure.
Hoping for the best!

ctito said:
Yes, that was what I thought. Imagine if HD2 could only be stuck in the jurassic WM 6.5 with Sense with all the hardware it has? Wow...
I put WM 8773 ROM in my HD2 (came out from 1,5years into WM6.5) and wow... It's simply incredible.
I think HD2 does have hardware to support WP8... Maybe not for some games, but in general, I'm pretty sure.
Hoping for the best!
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I agree
I heard that HTC will release 3 cell phones for WP8
HTC Rio
RAM : 512 MB
CPU: 1 or 2 cores Qualcomm
Display: WVGA 400 x 800
4 inch
14.4Mbps HSPA
HTC Accord
RAM: 1024 MB
CPU: 2 cores Qualcomm S4 Plus
Camera : 8 MP - 1080p video ..ـــ 30fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.3 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
HTC Zenith
RAM: 2048 MB
CPU : Quad Core Qualcomm
Camera : 12 MP - 1080p video ..more than ـــ 40 fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.7 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
So If you compare HD2 with these 3 phones, we can understand that HD2 is equal HTC RIO
the only problem I think, is DRIVERS.
of cotulla or other cookers can solve the driver issue, we will have WP8 on our HD2 as the first people.

Mehrdad201 said:
I agree
I heard that HD2 will release 3 cell phones for WP8
HTC Rio
RAM : 512 MB
CPU: 1 or 2 cores Qualcomm
Display: WVGA 400 x 800
4 inch
14.4Mbps HSPA
HTC Accord
RAM: 1024 MB
CPU: 2 cores Qualcomm S4 Plus
Camera : 8 MP - 1080p video ..ـــ 30fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.3 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
HTC Zenith
RAM: 2048 MB
CPU : Quad Core Qualcomm
Camera : 12 MP - 1080p video ..more than ـــ 40 fps
Display: 720p - Super LCD 2
4.7 inch
42Mbps HSPA+
NFC Support
So If you compare HD2 with these 3 phones, we can understand that HD2 is equal HTC RIO
the only problem I think, is DRIVERS.
of cotulla or other cookers can solve the driver issue, we will have WP8 on our HD2 as the first people.
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Interesting... But I wonder the video-card of HD2, if it'll still be able to run "60 fps" interface and the games. And HD2 (at least mine) only shows 372mb RAM, added to the high-heat, which means I guess that the phone is working hard a lot to keep the OS stable and smooth with all the features.
Well, this is a strong cellphone, I hope it can run also WP8 smoothly and so do we all.

ctito said:
Interesting... But I wonder the video-card of HD2, if it'll still be able to run "60 fps" interface and the games. And HD2 (at least mine) only shows 372mb RAM, added to the high-heat, which means I guess that the phone is working hard a lot to keep the OS stable and smooth with all the features.
Well, this is a strong cellphone, I hope it can run also WP8 smoothly and so do we all.
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I tested WP7.5 and also Android on my HD2
in my idea, heat is significantly more when I am running Android.
and HD2 has 576 MB of ram.
And finally we have to wait for the future news.....

[Q] Windows Phone 8.0

Now that Windows Phone 8 is out. Is it possible that we will see it on the HD2 anytime soon, or at all?

every day same questions....
NO
we get 7.8 when be released....

jeje same post time to time

dxdy said:
every day same questions....
NO
we get 7.8 when be released....
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We already have 7.8...

it not a really wp7.8, only have new UI. wait…
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TheEdge24 said:
We already have 7.8...
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this not 7.8... is only demo of new UI...

Wp 8 would be great but unfortunately it's out of reach for hd2.
Seems best Os for this phone will stay Android
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maneken25 said:
Wp 8 would be great but unfortunately it's out of reach for hd2.
Seems best Os for this phone will stay Android
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every people have own opinion... for me Android is worst than WP7... i never have better battery performance on Android compared to WP7... Android maybe have better choice of apps and OS customization but WP7 more secure and spyware/virus free...

dxdy said:
every people have own opinion... for me Android is worst than WP7... i never have better battery performance on Android compared to WP7... Android maybe have better choice of apps and OS customization but WP7 more secure and spyware/virus free...
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I agree, needed to mention that is my opinion.
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Minimum hardware requirements for Windows Phone 8:
-Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 dual-core processor
-Minimum 512MB RAM for WVGA phones; minimum 1GB RAM for 720p / WXGA
-Minimum 4GB flash memory
-GPS and A-GNSS; GLONASS is supported if OEMs decide to include it
-Support for micro-USB 2.0
-3.5mm stereo headphone jack with three-button detection support
-Rear-facing AF camera with LED or Xenon flash, optional front-facing camera (both need to be VGA or better) and dedicated camera button
-Accelerometer, proximity and ambient light sensors, as well as vibration motor (magnetometer and gyroscope are optional)
-802.11b/g and Bluetooth (802.11n is optional)
-DirectX graphics hardware support with hardware acceleration for Direct3D using programmable GPU
-Multi-touch capacitive touch screen with minimum of four simultaneous points
Dual-Core processor and DirectX graphics no suported for HD2. Developers are demostrated that can broke limits but not easy.

only time will tell

Let's see at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021030
nang

Nang06 said:
Let's see at :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021030
nang
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unfortunately nothing new... and not usable... but people like to post non stop about this