I think I have a problem with the battery drain of my HD2 wjen in standby mode: as you can see from the attached log it never goes lower than -75mA, even with pushmail off...
It started like this with CHT 2.0 installed... could it be?
Yeah, CHT could be a reason, some stock ROMs seem to be a bit critical for this great piece of software.
Plus, it can also depend on what extensions and widgets you added to CHT...
After all, not so easy to find out. My HD2 runs like 2 days at normal usage (some phone usage, some texting, some mail sync over wlan, sometimes even with some navigation).
Please also make sure to try different Radio ROMs... or re-flash, or whatever. You´ll find several threads here with similar issues and various solutions and ideas.
tictac0566 said:
Yeah, CHT could be a reason, some stock ROMs seem to be a bit critical for this great piece of software.
Plus, it can also depend on what extensions and widgets you added to CHT...
After all, not so easy to find out. My HD2 runs like 2 days at normal usage (some phone usage, some texting, some mail sync over wlan, sometimes even with some navigation).
Please also make sure to try different Radio ROMs... or re-flash, or whatever. You´ll find several threads here with similar issues and various solutions and ideas.
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yeah but why would CHT affect battery life when in standby? I am worried about the -75mA drainage in standby mode...
thegios said:
yeah but why would CHT affect battery life when in standby? I am worried about the -75mA drainage in standby mode...
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CHT in itself does not consume much power (if at all), I have CHT 2.0, and idle consumption is in 2-8 mA range (with GPRS and pushmail working).
Maybe you have some of the CHT monitoring widgets active?
If so, I'd suggest checking power consumption with those widgets turned off,
or even checking what is the power consumption without Sense
p107r0 said:
CHT in itself does not consume much power (if at all), I have CHT 2.0, and idle consumption is in 2-8 mA range (with GPRS and pushmail working).
Maybe you have some of the CHT monitoring widgets active?
If so, I'd suggest checking power consumption with those widgets turned off,
or even checking what is the power consumption without Sense
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I have no monitoring widgets..
Could it be that I turned on the bluetooth discovering mode in cht editor? What does this option do exactly?
thegios said:
Could it be that I turned on the bluetooth discovering mode in cht editor? What does this option do exactly?
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rather not, discoverable mode means normal bluetooth operation, except that your presence is not hidden from other devices (more info in wiki here)
as for the power consumption, it's definitely too high,
you seem to use some battery logging app, does it also show the current in real time?
if not, you could install BattClock, to check what the mA level after you wake the device from idle state (just to have second opinion/confirmation)
besides that you can either search this forum for some hints (the problem was raised several times), and/or start searching for the reason by elimination (check mA usage w/o Sense, try turning off the auto update of services like weather, contacts, FX etc.), check list of running processes with the Dotfred's Task Manager - trying to find which may be unnecessary
thegios said:
I think I have a problem with the battery drain of my HD2 wjen in standby mode: as you can see from the attached log it never goes lower than -75mA, even with pushmail off...
It started like this with CHT 2.0 installed... could it be?
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Hi,
when was the last time you formatted your SD card? A malfunctioning/severely defragmented SD card can cause a huge battery drainage. I'm pretty sure that this is your main problem. To solve it, follow this way:
1. Shut down device and remove SD Card
2. Insert SD Card into Card reader and insert to PC. Wait untill you see the Windows screen that says: automatically play/open this device and choose open folders.
3. Backup the content of your Card to a self named folder on your PC
4. Click another station than the SD card
5. Go back to SC card and right click it and choose formatting (slow mode)
6. After finishing this formatting, safely remove the Card from your PC and reinsert into device.
7. Boot device and format SD Card again with SD formatting tool (Windows - Tools - SD Formatting Tool).
8. Take out SD card and reinsert in PC and restore data fromm the self named folder.
9. Reinsert SD card in device and soft reset.
Done
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
Hi,
when was the last time you formatted your SD card? A malfunctioning/severely defragmented SD card can cause a huge battery drainage. I'm pretty sure that this is your main problem. To solve it, follow this way:
1. Shut down device and remove SD Card
2. Insert SD Card into Card reader and insert to PC. Wait untill you see the Windows screen that says: automatically play/open this device and choose open folders.
3. Backup the content of your Card to a self named folder on your PC
4. Click another station than the SD card
5. Go back to SC card and right click it and choose formatting (slow mode)
6. After finishing this formatting, safely remove the Card from your PC and reinsert into device.
7. Boot device and format SD Card again with SD formatting tool (Windows - Tools - SD Formatting Tool).
8. Take out SD card and reinsert in PC and restore data fromm the self named folder.
9. Reinsert SD card in device and soft reset.
Done
regards, Kuzibri
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Hi,
I have alreday tried that with no benefit... Only difference was that I formatted it diurectly into phone, skipping step 5: why do I need to format SD card on pc as well, before formatting on phone?
BTW, why would the SD card drain the phone while in standby?
I have also tried disabling sense and monitoring again, and still I have a fixed -75mA drain in standby...
Here's a list of running processes:
manila
tmail
JBlendDaemon > what is this?
CommManager
battclock > this was installed already before having batt problems
BTTrayCE
alarmPal > this was installed already before having batt problems
poutlook
cprog
connmgr
services
shell32
gwes > what is this?
device
filesys
NK > what is this?
thegios said:
Hi,
I have alreday tried that with no benefit... Only difference was that I formatted it diurectly into phone, skipping step 5: why do I need to format SD card on pc as well, before formatting on phone?
BTW, why would the SD card drain the phone while in standby?
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A SD Card uses enery/battery power, when SD card dysfunctions or contains errors or is heavily defragmented, they all can lead to several severe problems, f.i. a huge battery drain even in standby.
The reason why you have to format your SD card first in PC, is that the Windows PC formatting tool does a very much more thorough job than then device's one (only compare the time they need to finish this process!!) and erases the Card totally whilst also repairing posssible errors or skipping and excluding bad sectors. So skipping this and only using device tool might not solve you're problem. The formatting afterwards with device's tool is only meant to prepare the card for the device's system. So, if I were you I would format SD Card with PC first and monitor battery usage. Be not surprised when the usage diminishes a lot.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
A SD Card uses enery/battery power, when SD card dysfunctions or contains errors or is heavily defragmented, they all can lead to several severe problems, f.i. a huge battery drain even in standby.
The reason why you have to format your SD card first in PC, is that the Windows PC formatting tool does a very much more thorough job than then device's one (only compare the time they need to finish this process!!) and erases the Card totally whilst also repairing posssible errors or skipping and excluding bad sectors. So skipping this and only using device tool might not solve you're problem. The formatting afterwards with device's tool is only meant to prepare the card for the device's system. So, if I were you I would format SD Card with PC first and monitor battery usage. Be not surprised when the usage diminishes a lot.
regards, Kuzibri
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ok thanks: i have done that and now will monitor usage...
by the way, i am using BatLog: is this a good tool?
thegios said:
ok thanks: i have done that and now will monitor usage...
by the way, i am using BatLog: is this a good tool?
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AFAIK, yes it is.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
AFAIK, yes it is.
regards, Kuzibri
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then just to verify that I use it in the proper way:
- I launch batlog
- I set interval to 10 seconds
- I set the log name
- I start the log
- I minimize batlog
- I turn off the screen
is this correct?
thegios said:
then just to verify that I use it in the proper way:
- I launch batlog
- I set interval to 10 seconds
- I set the log name
- I start the log
- I minimize batlog
- I turn off the screen
is this correct?
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yes, it is.
regards, Kuzibri
How are you doing battery wise?
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
How are you doing battery wise?
regards, Kuzibri
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I am still doing a few tests: ALL ON, ALL OFF, DATA OFF, DATA ON BUT PUSHMAIL OFF.
Then i wanna try with SD out, just to exclude SD.
My real problem is that overnight, with data on but pushmail off, it drain 20% in 8 hours... way too much...
thegios said:
I am still doing a few tests: ALL ON, ALL OFF, DATA OFF, DATA ON BUT PUSHMAIL OFF.
Then i wanna try with SD out, just to exclude SD.
My real problem is that overnight, with data on but pushmail off, it drain 20% in 8 hours... way too much...
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You are absolutely right on that, this drainage is far too much. My overnight drainage in standby mode (so connection data on) is max 3-4%. If drainage without SD card is far less then now, I would advice you to buy a new one because either it's severely damaged or corrupt, even after formatting.
BTW, do not worry too much about Battlog, just look at your battery% that you have left over after a certain amount of time.
Good luck and regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
You are absolutely right on that, this drainage is far too much. My overnight drainage in standby mode (so connection data on) is max 3-4%. If drainage without SD card is far less then now, I would advice you to buy a new one because either it's severely damaged or corrupt, even after formatting.
BTW, do not worry too much about Battlog, just look at your battery% that you have left over after a certain amount of time.
Good luck and regards, Kuzibri
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OK,
after two tests (but I'd like to do a few more)...
-1- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, NO ACTIVITY AT ALL
23:00 @ 50%
07:30 @ 15%
lost 35% in 8.5h that is 4.1% per h
-2- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, 2 CALLS and 10 MINS BROWSING in 3G
10:00 @ 100%
19:00 @ 80%
lost 20% in 9h that is 2.2% per h
So for the moment it looks like it's the SD, but I'll try again tonight removing the SD while the phone is in stand by with no activity (same conditions as test 1)
thegios said:
OK,
after two tests (but I'd like to do a few more)...
-1- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, NO ACTIVITY AT ALL
23:00 @ 50%
07:30 @ 15%
lost 35% in 8.5h that is 4.1% per h
-2- GSM ON, DATA ON, PUSMAIL OFF, SD IN, 2 CALLS and 10 MINS BROWSING in 3G
10:00 @ 100%
19:00 @ 80%
lost 20% in 9h that is 2.2% per h
So for the moment it looks like it's the SD, but I'll try again tonight removing the SD while the phone is in stand by with no activity (same conditions as test 1)
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Bad news... 28% in 10 hours overnight, with SD out and pushmail off.
Cannot be sd at this point... Could it be that after 1 year and 3 months the battery is already dying? This would explain the -75mA drain when in standby.
What's strange is that now I'm charging the batt and ir went from 41% to 57% in 15 minutes...
thegios said:
Bad news... 28% in 10 hours overnight, with SD out and pushmail off.
Cannot be sd at this point... Could it be that after 1 year and 3 months the battery is already dying? This would explain the -75mA drain when in standby.
What's strange is that now I'm charging the batt and ir went from 41% to 57% in 15 minutes...
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so, 10h overnight, SD IN but DATA CONNECTION DISABLED and it went from 100% to 95%...
I guess this means only two things: it's not the SD, teher must be something which uses the data connection constantly... how can I find it out?
PS: weather is set every 3 hours, facebook every 2 hours, nothing else...
Related
Anyone having any battery drain issues at all? My wizard only lasts 12 hours till it dies on me. Even if it's on standby for the whole 12 hours.
This is obviously abnormal. I want to see how many of you in here have this problem, or if it's just me. I have replace a new wizard (from the same store), and this problem still persists..and i have also tried using a new battery with the same result.
I recently came across this program on this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168&start=25
B_uptime which records your usage time. The you are using your phone the processing time will be incremented, when you have it on stanby the idle time will be incremented. But with my phone no matter if am using it or if it's on standby, only the processing time is incremented.
I am suspecting this is the cause for the battery drain. Can people with or without this problem try this out please? And see if the idle time increment when you put the phone on standby?
Hoping to get some feedbacks. Thank you so much!
See this big thread here with people who have similar problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45601
I personally have my battery standby set at 2 mins.
jpflaw00 posted an interesting observation in the b_uptime thread too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45168&start=25
Try to remove the memory card and see if the phone still refuses to "idle".
I am making a new topic, to get a survey on howmany ppl are having this problem and if they have their's fixed.
I have tried pulling out the SD card, but the idle time still won't count, and this is my 2nd wizard.....so I am pretty screwed....I just don't know why....
ppl please post your comments and fix thx
ok, I have just tried pulling the SD card out, and it KINDA works! It only works when I take the card out, and let it turn itself off after 1 minute. If I manually press the power button, and then turn it back on again, the idel time still will not increment.
Did you just let it go on standby or did you also tried pressing the power button? So I guess the problem is not fixed for me.
I am using a Kingcap 1gb Mini SD, what about you guys?
How about people with battery issues state the brand, size, etc. of memory card if used. Otherwise people should state if they have a battery problem even if they don't use a memory card. Let's narrow it down to see if the issue really is the card :!:
jpflaw00, so does the counter still work for you if you press push the power button, and then turning it back on after 1 minute?
Want to know if I am the only one having this problem.
I had the mem card out since yesterday @ 3, fullly charged, and I didn't press the power button, letting it turn itself off, after almost 24 hours, it's @ 50%, so very good....but very inconvenient......and I do want to press the power button.
OK, I confirm, my phone finally works with the SD card out.
When the SD card is in, the idel counter stops working.
So we have narrowed the problem down to being some kinda of problem with some brand of SD card, OR simply the SD Card Slot.
I am using a Kingston 1gb. Really want to try a Sandisk and see the result.
Well this will blow your mind.... i DONT have a Memory Card, and yet my Vario battery lasts 1 day tops without charge. No WiFi, no GPRS, no BT, no IrDA, no Crazy Today Plugins.
gazzrenn, you have a more serious problem than me.....did you try hard resettting it and not install anything? and what rom are you on?
OK, I CONFIRM, THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE SD CARD! It is a problem with the SD CARD SLOT! I tried putting in a blank card (The piece of plastic that came with the phone), and the counter stops working, so there must be something wrong with the sd card slot..when something is inserted it keeps the phone running...
omg..anyone having this problem?
Hey jpflaw00, any news on your Wizard?
Does your battery still drain? Have you tried putting in the Plastic thingee in the slot and see if it still drains?
Thx/
well as far as i can tell no...i haven't really noticed anything...to me it seems as if the battery is fine, but i haven't really been testing it out...i think i have better battery life now, but i'm not too sure...i recently upgraded my rom, but maybe the problem has to do with phonealarm or something that keeps transmitting info back and from the memory card...but if you are having battery problems without a memory card, then i suggest trying the new roms out to see if this fixes any issues you are having...my suggestion is the mobiz edition i am using right now...if i'm right i'm getting better battery life, but then again i could be wrong...just try it out...anyways i will charge my phone as soon as this cycle is done...then i will examine the phone battery stats, and then i'll get back to ya...good luck!
the micro SD card!
i checked it twice overnight and during the day.. so i can say that for sure!
I own a Samsung micro SD 8gb class 6..
Night 1: lost 35 % in 7 hours with SD in it, constant data connection with hourly updates
Day 1: lost about 54 % in 8 with SD in it, constant data con. , hourly updates, some calls,texts & browsing in Opera
Night 2: same conditions as night 1 but without SD card.. lost 7 %
Day 2: nearly same conditions as day 1 but without SD card.. lost 27 %
Now a question: are sandisk cards better? i really need a new 1 cause my samsung's ****ed up!
Hope i could help someone with this..
Use BsB Tweaker which can enable power saver for SD Card.
And keep in mind that Battery lose first half capacity very fast and then stay on long time on the level 30-40-50.
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Henry_Lee said:
Use BsB Tweaker which can enable power saver for SD Card.
And keep in mind that Battery lose first half capacity very fast and then stay on long time on the level 30-40-50.
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In my case it's the exact opposite, power loss from 100%-50% is slow, below 50% it can go empty within 7 hours in STANDBY (reproducible). Thanks for the advice with BsB Tweaker.
PS: I have a sandisk 16gb class 2.
you mean the power saving option? it's enanled since the first day..
i know that with the first half but the sd card is really killing me! currently working outside so im in need of the radio.. with sd card in it and running fm radio, battery drainage is about 19 % per hour.. thats not even a bad joke anymore, its realy frustrating!
thank god that i have electricity here
That can't be right. Must be a rogue application. I have a 16 GB card and the phone never loses more than 1-2% (radio off) during the night.
must be my samsung card.. apps are all closed over night!
i got tomtom,navigon,some music & games on my card.. no idea
Formaty sd card and try again.
Must be some application installed on sd or some problem with the sd card itself
Ill try it when im at home!
is there an alternative for the built in fm radio? tried listening without sd.. same result 3 % loss in 10 mins! how can a dumb radio use so much battery?
i remember listening radio with my nokia e90.. listend for hours with minimal battery loss
It makes sense to me, thats why I was saying this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5230146&postcount=10
Any fellows here are using the A-data class 6 16gb and dose not affect the battery life? I'd like to ask this again.
Thanks in advance.
waxfresh said:
is there an alternative for the built in fm radio? tried listening without sd.. same result 3 % loss in 10 mins!
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I tried mine too, and I lost 4% in 10 minutes, but that was with the screen on. I then turned off the radio and lost 3% in 10 minutes with the screen on, but not doing anything (other than usual-for-my-phone background tasks). I then turned the radio back on and turned the screen off, and it used less than 1% in 10 minutes (I say less than 1% because the indicator had not changed.)
To me, that says that (in my case) the battery killer is the screen, which I can accept because I have it lit very high (I just don't like it dim.)
pedmond said:
That can't be right. Must be a rogue application. I have a 16 GB card and the phone never loses more than 1-2% (radio off) during the night.
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Please tell me you are talking about the Sandisk 16GB class2
johncmolyneux said:
I tried mine too, and I lost 4% in 10 minutes, but that was with the screen on. I then turned off the radio and lost 3% in 10 minutes with the screen on, but not doing anything (other than usual-for-my-phone background tasks). I then turned the radio back on and turned the screen off, and it used less than 1% in 10 minutes (I say less than 1% because the indicator had not changed.)
To me, that says that (in my case) the battery killer is the screen, which I can accept because I have it lit very high (I just don't like it dim.)
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screen off,radio on.. still 3% in 10 min.
my screen is on 20 % light .. i also would like to set it to 100% but i dont want the battery to be empty before i can type in the pin
waxfresh said:
screen off,radio on.. still 3% in 10 min.
my screen is on 20 % light .. i also would like to set it to 100% but i dont want the battery to be empty before i can type in the pin
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The only major thing I'm considering changing, to see if it has any effect, is my windows live config. I currently have my sync frequency set to "as soon as it arrives", which requires a constant data connection (before that starts a flame war, please read this.) I'm gonna turn that off and see if it improves, but I still think the screen is my big problem.
TheGodfather-GF said:
In my case it's the exact opposite, power loss from 100%-50% is slow, below 50% it can go empty within 7 hours in STANDBY (reproducible). Thanks for the advice with BsB Tweaker.
PS: I have a sandisk 16gb class 2.
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Sounds like you need to recalibrate the "remaining-charge-estimate-circuit-thingy" in your HD2's battery. Drain battery to as near as nothing as possible and fully charge it without unplugging it (I have heard its suggested to do this with the device off). Might work straight off the first time, might take a couple goes.
Do not leave the device below 20% charge for any long period of time as it can cause problems with the Li-Ion battery.
johncmolyneux said:
The only major thing I'm considering changing, to see if it has any effect, is my windows live config. I currently have my sync frequency set to "as soon as it arrives", which requires a constant data connection (before that starts a flame war, please read this.) I'm gonna turn that off and see if it improves, but I still think the screen is my big problem.
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my live sync is off.. useing gmail with the built in mail app, updateing hourly
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my live sync is off.. useing gmail with the built in mail app, updateing hourly
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I'm gonna try it on mine and see if I have any improvement anyway. I'm sure we have different things running on our devices. I'm just trying to narrow things down before removing the SD card to see if that does anything.
SD Card is one of the factor
To my sense, if a lot of softwares in installed in your SD Card, then definitely the battery will deplete rapidly.
I install all 3G-constant-data-softwares in the system memory, not card. Those not required CONSTANT 3G data connection and not to be running 24/7 will be installed in SD card (eg. 1-Calc, TCPMP, Lexisgoo, Resco Explorer).
So far, with the stock ROM and related softwares (installed at "right" locations) gives me average 1 full day battery juice having 25% balance. And again, battery consumption is a very very subjective topic. SD card IS definitely one of the battery earter.
I have not tested the following in a very detailed way but I think it worth while trying it:
Even so I have used the power saving tweak from BsB Tweak I found in sk Tools in tuneup that all Power Saving features are switched off.
So I switched On all Power saving features in sk Tools and I have the feeling that the battery usage is less now.
For example:
From midnight full 100% charge till 8am in the morning I had 89% left which is a little bit more than 1% loss per hour and this is not bad.
But with the new Radio 2.06 I have the feeling that battery power is getting more drained during a talk or during interent connection.
On the other side the reception is quite good and I have also the feeling that data connection is better - receiving data faster after a connection is established.
Again: This are all "soft" fatcs I have not done a sientific evaluation
I have a San Disk 16GByte Class 6 storage card.
Best regards,
dingolino
Hi, are you sure that your micro sd is a sandisk class 6? cuz I've never found Sandisk has released a class 6 16GB microcard..thats why I had to buy the A-data one.
The only software I have installed in the storge card is a GPS software IGO8.
This battery issue is driving me crazy, I begin to miss my HTC HD(original 1.43 ROM) which drops only 2%(My hd2 loses about 40% power) every night, even I always have kept my data connection on.
dingolino said:
I have a San Disk 16GByte Class 6 storage card.
Best regards,
dingolino
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My personal battery killer is 3G. I have downloaded 100Mb in 5 minutes and have lost around 5% of my battery
Daniel
My battery on the HTC Pure went from 45% charge to 2% auto-shutoff within a matter of 1.5 hours without any usage on my part. In fact, I had rebooted it and not touched it since.
The thing has been dying a lot faster after I installed some programs from Marketplace. I'm wondering if they are doing background processes that zap its power or what.
Any recommendations on monitoring what's going on in the background???
try to calibrate battery
(thanks helgee):
1. Discharge the device. Absolutely.
2. Take out battery for 60 sec.
3. Put the battery back. Don't switch on the device!
4. Charge the device by normal way (not by usb!) to the full state (green LED).
5. Take out battery again for 60 sec.
6. Put the battery back.
7. Switch on the device.
How can you discharged your battery? I didn't find a option on my Touch Diamond 2.
Ciedric said:
How can you discharged your battery? I didn't find a option on my Touch Diamond 2.
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You don't do this unless you want to damage the battery.
crypted said:
My battery on the HTC Pure went from 45% charge to 2% auto-shutoff within a matter of 1.5 hours without any usage on my part. In fact, I had rebooted it and not touched it since.
The thing has been dying a lot faster after I installed some programs from Marketplace. I'm wondering if they are doing background processes that zap its power or what.
Any recommendations on monitoring what's going on in the background???
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Exactly the same thing here, after installing some apps from Marketplace, the batt started to drain very fast. Don't know why yet. The apps installed are:
Mobeedo
Bing
Pocketnow
The Daily News
I've removed Mobeedo, The Daily News and Pocketnow just to test if they were doing something.
abzza said:
try to calibrate battery
(thanks helgee):
1. Discharge the device. Absolutely.
2. Take out battery for 60 sec.
3. Put the battery back. Don't switch on the device!
4. Charge the device by normal way (not by usb!) to the full state (green LED).
5. Take out battery again for 60 sec.
6. Put the battery back.
7. Switch on the device.
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I did this and it worked, now it appears to last even more than before.
Thanks a lot.
Hi,i´ve tried that 2 times and no result,can you help me with this,less than a day with battery is very sad...!
I´ve disabled the sense and i´m running the predifinicion of windows 6.5!
Big hug!
hi
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...rtmentProductId/54290922/shopGroupId/40547521
Tryied and loved it...!
Fast battery discharge
I had this very same problem. I had it with WM 6.1 and the Pure. Both due to the same app. BING is your problem. If you have a memory card in your phone it causes it to be constantly accessed instead of just on demand such as with storing pictures from camera. This is a battery life killer. Ditch BING, remove your storage card, save what you want to a PC and wipe it. After that put your saved files back on the card and put back in phone. This should stop the battery drain issue. Hope this helps.
ALSO: Some people swear by the battery drain and charge thing...others do not. Use it if you like but without getting rid of BING or finding a way to keep it from accessing your memory card the difference you will see will be barely noticeable.
Radio!~
u can change the radio , then u will get better.
my radio is 4.49.25.17
This method is suitable for hd2 SD Android, not test on NAND mode. If you encounter problems as the standby battery consumption(50+ma), you can try this method to solve:
If you reboot android and monitor the standby battery drain is 3~5ma,do not happy too early and think that you get a good android rom, because after reboot,it will likely become 50+ma;
If you reboot android and monitor the standby battery drain is more than 50ma, do not despair, don't think that this version is so bad and you need to replace another immediately, because you can use this method below to fix:
Steps:
1, reboot WM, don't hurry, wait 1 minute, let's WM fully reboot, especially some softwares installed on SD but need to run when reboot. press the power button to turn off screen(not shutdown mobile), open the back cover, remove the TF card, the screen will light up, tap the power button again to turn off the screen (not shutdown), wait 10 seconds, insert the tf card, the screen lights up again, now boot android and monitor standby battery consumption, 90% under 10ma ----- In short, that is, before boot android, pull out and plug in TF card;
2, if fail, you need pull out and plug in battery before reboot WM, then repeat the above steps;
If works, please say thanks
Don't charger when monitor standby battery drain, please use currentwidget monitor and use its log function to record. What is "the standby power consumption" pls consult Mr. Google.
Other users reported that changing the sd to another one solved the high drain in standby for them, so you basically are saying the same.
I use the original 2GB card the few times I decide to test android, because first time I tested superram build, my 16GB card got wiped for some unknown reason; I may as well see if your method changes anything.
Worked for me! Tnx!
Had 50+mA wen using android sd, very annoying because in the beginning I had no problems.
Now it's back on 8mA! Tnx!
Thanks
Thanks for the solution, seems to work every now and then when i get high drain on standby ^^ thanks
At first try, this seems to work well. I was getting 60+ ma usage in standby with Darkstone's SuperRAM build, even with a fresh install. Going through this little bit of voodoo got my standby usage down to the 5-8ma range. Thanks for finding this, though I don't like thinking about how much trial and error it took to discover.
I just hope I don't have to do this every time I reboot.
Thanks...
Was getting low power usage through this morning, when I unplugged the phone from the charger. I had left Android running on the phone overnight. I discovered that the HD2 was back to using 60ma when I got back to work. Repeated the magic spell, and I was back down to 8ma in standby. Really strange. Does anyone have any kind of explanation for this behavior?
Wow thx work like a charm.
imrazor - My theory is by pulling the SD card out in WM you stop all applications that use the SD and when you boot android the SD card is only used by android. Well thats what I think ^^
The point is it works and we now have better MA in standby.
Sort of works
The SD fix does take the standby drain to around 7mA, however I can only wake the phone once. The next time I try to power up, my phone never cuts on, and I have to pull the battery.
This is exactly what I am looking for. I will try it. Is it possible to write a program in WM to do this instead of pulling out SD Card?
Hello,
cygwinxp said:
This is exactly what I am looking for. I will try it. Is it possible to write a program in WM to do this instead of pulling out SD Card?
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That's an amazing solution.
If someone can tell me what to kill, I can try do create this nice prog...
Any idea why it works?
Didn work for me... Dont know did I do it right? I normaly shutdown my phone, do those things with the sd card (plug in plug out) and when I start android continuesly 50-70mA on stanby.. I did the battery thing and still the same...
Have MIUI SD ROM.
Current changed from time to time from 5-8mA to 50-70mA and back.
Killing all applications sometime give effect to decrease current.
Switching off autolight sensor sometime give effect to decrease current.
Sometime call in/call out give increase current.
Switching off in-pocket and near-ear sensors (call settings) give good effect to decrease current.
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continue testiing
my head is overheat
switching on near-ear sensor after call return power consumption to 60-70mA.
switching off near-ear sensor not give decrease current.
call in/out not give effect.
sw on/off auto backlight not give effect.
sometime callout decrease current to 6-8mA,
but best result give system restart
Turn off HTC Sense
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HD2 SD android standby battery drain 50+ma comes from 3 places:
1) What was running in Windows Mobile when you boot Android
2) The Android ROM you use
3) What is running in Android
1) The answer is turn off HTC Sense
When I turn off HTC Sense in Windows Mobile I get much better battery drain in Android. If I do not turn off HTC Sense then I usually get standby battery drain 50+ma. So flap can you create a nice prog to turn off HTC Sense etc. and then boot Android?
HTC Sense is not the only program. In addition to turning off Sense first, running a RAM cleaner (e.g. cleanRAM) in Windows Mobile will also help or - even better - reboot Windows Mobile without HTC Sense before launching Android.
2) use Portadroid to easily try different SD Android ROMs
3) see BetterBatteryStats
Cheers
Tom
I started having this problem one day randomly (after i installed some new apps). However, even after i installed all the new updates and apps the problem persisted. I tried this method you mentioned and now my battery standby drainage is back to 7mA (instead of 30-60mA). Don't know how it works, but it solved my problem. I have since reinstalled the apps that I wanted and it has been working fine for 24hours...
thanks man
hi i just ask you what mean Tf Crad? SD card or SIM card
Hello, it doesn't work for my HTC Leo. I have battery drain 230-800 ma on the latest MIUI SD ROM. Any idea what should I do next? Maybe I must change the program, that measure the battery current? Now I'm using CurrentWidget.
Thank you, I will test it.
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
boomboomer said:
75mA drain in standby is not normal, in WM you should be at 2mA.
If you can't identify which program is not sleeping then I would flash the newest stock ROM and see if this cures the issue.
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it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
thegios said:
I am really going crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is not normal...
I only have: weather every 6 hours, facebook every 2 hours, pushmail (but usually I turn it off at night)...
I do not have data autodisconnect, but untill a few days ago I never had drain issue...
I tried monitoring battery with a bat log program, and in standby it never goes lower than -75mA...
Signal at home is eprfect, so it cannot be a signal problem...
Could it be that my battery (after 1 year an 3 months) is nearly dead and in discharging quickly? How can I verify?
I am also attaching the datalog usage and as you can see there's not many data connections going on in standby: 22Kb from 22:00 till 23:00, 1Kb from 2:00 till midnight and 96Kb in 6 hours from midnight till 06:00am. I don't think that this data usage could justify a 30% drainage in 8 hours...
Thanks
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When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
kuzibri said:
When did you format your SD card for the last time? A heavily defragmented/malfunctioning SD card can cause huge battery drainage. So, if I were you, and it's a fairly long time ago, I would format SD Card (shut down device- take out Card and put in Reader - insert in PC -right click SD card and choose formatting (slow metho/ds) - after finishing reinsert Card in device and format again with SD card formatting tool). My battery is as old as yours and my overnight drainage in standby (with data connections on) is 3-4% max.
regards, Kuzibri
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Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
thegios said:
Even this, I've already done it, plenty of times (I do this at elast every month or two)...
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Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
kuzibri said:
Sorry, hoped that this would be the "simple" solution of this problem. Does your battery take longer to fully charge than usual? If yes, than, certainly in combination with the drainage, I would replace the battery. Can't you borrow one to see if it's really the battery, cause that is still the best test to do? Maybe a superfluous question: did you try a hard reset?
I don't know any1 else with an HD1 :-(
battery charges quite quickly on the wall socket, slower via usb butbthat's normal...
hard reset?!?!?! noooooooooooooo hahahaha I'm trying to figure out what's the problem to avoid hard resetting and spending 2 days reinstalling and reconfiguring everything
regards, Kuzibri
Edit: forgot these two ones:
1. do you have sometimes the issue that during charging your LED goes from orange to green and back?
no
2. Clean the pins of the device, look if they function well and are equally high and also clean the contacts of battery with a soft clot
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will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
thegios said:
will try...
btw: if I remove batt the time/date changes... is this normal?
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AFAIK, this is not normal behaviour, unless you leave it out for hours and hours.
regards, Kuzibri
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which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
backlashsid said:
which program did you use for the screenshot you attached ?
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You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
Standby is prevented
thegios said:
Tonight again after 8 hours of standby it went from 100% to 70% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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man ! i know how to take the screen shot ! i meant which program to give that graph sort of data map !!!!
kuzibri said:
You can use the following programs for that:
1. SPB Screenshot
2. Whip2Snap
3. BsB tweaks
regards, Kuzibri
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actually I have used SPB WIRELESS MONITOR to log the data usage and export the log in a csv file, than imported the log in Excel, gave a little color and formatting and took a screenshot with ALT + PRINTSCREEN
ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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am gonna try ur tool...
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
ElectronX said:
I have observed this problem also. My tool ResInfo showed me that the device does not change to standby. Only the backlight is switched off. The histogram of the cpu load shows that every few minutes a process becomes quite briefly active. Nevertheless, I could not investigate which module was responsible for it.
Since the ROM update from 1.72 to 3.14 I have not experienced this phenomenon any more.
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Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
thegios said:
Hi,
how can you tell exactly that the phone is not really going to standby?
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If we take the example of the original poster, after charging the battery to 100%, both counters shows 0 hours in the evening.
The next morning one would expect possibly following values:
Battery charge: 97%
Operation: 0h, 2 min, 42 sec
Standby: 8h, 42 min, 42 sec
But if you see this:
Battery charge: 70%
Operation: 8h, 45 min, 42 sec
Standby: 0h, 0 min, 0 sec
Then the device never was in the standby state.
Would it be possible, in your tool, to add a log function (in csv format) for both battery drain and cpu usage?
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Yes, this would be no problem, but...
I am currently using a task manager tool which in real time shows the running tasks and their cpu usage, but this is almost useless in standby.
What we really need is a tool that, also in standby, keeps on logging active tasks and their cpu usage into a file, let's say every 1-2-4-5-10-15-30 seconds.
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This is not possible. Because in standby state, all components of the device are switched without current. Merely the memory (RAM) is supplied still with voltage to data preservation. In addition, the CPU is switched off. Merely a separate, programmable timer and a component for monitoring of the external interfaces are still in company. Therefore, no application can be executed.Hence, such a tool can recognize only after the turning on of the device whether the battery was charged/discharged while in suspend state.
btw, dont u have any problem with 3.14?
I mean, sms, cinetic scrolling, others?
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Here in this post I have written something about this.
thegios said:
it's not a rom problem... when I upgraded to 1.66 stock I was not having this problem... it strted recently... and 3.14 has far too many problems
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I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
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I didn't mean to imply that it was the ROM causing the issue, just that a hard reset of the phone's state to a known 'good' condition would remove the doubt of a software change/corruption causing your problems.
If a hard reset and stock ROM still produce the same battery drain then your hardware maybe faulty. To eliminate a software issue try the fresh ROM for a few days without any 3rd party apps installed.
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I may have solved the probelm: removed from auto startip the following links
DelWMPTempFolder from /windows folder
PostBootPopup from /spbbackup folder