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Atom Life

Hi All,
my atom life was working perfectly only had it for 4weeks (eBay) then notice battery was getting VERY hot this only started 2day's ago, i changed the battery same thing fone still works then lockup and will charge the battery tho lol. have tested the battery on my xda no prob.
Just wondering if any1 had any tips to try and fix this or should i look for another fone with screen fault, missed out last week $75 screen was cracked
Tia
Oyama

upgrade
try upgrading new rom...had similar prob with o2 neo it worked...may it also work here

phone battery normally gets hot when charging or using wifi.
If it gets very hot, then you should be worried.

Hi,
My atom life cannot read the storage card? Any advise that I can fix this? thank you for your time.

I've found that when connected to a power source, access to the memory card is flaky at best. Taking it out and reinserting it several times will eventually reveal it but it will soon disappear again. In my experience the oonly sure fire way to be able to read the card is under battery power only. However, I'd also make sure that the card in question is working with another device just to rule out the possibility of a faulty card....
Hope that helps

What capacity is your card?

maniac2403 said:
phone battery normally gets hot when charging or using wifi.
If it gets very hot, then you should be worried.
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hm.. my atom life the batt getting hot and then can not charge.. indicator of light (red) turn off.. why?

My personal battery killer is..

the micro SD card!
i checked it twice overnight and during the day.. so i can say that for sure!
I own a Samsung micro SD 8gb class 6..
Night 1: lost 35 % in 7 hours with SD in it, constant data connection with hourly updates
Day 1: lost about 54 % in 8 with SD in it, constant data con. , hourly updates, some calls,texts & browsing in Opera
Night 2: same conditions as night 1 but without SD card.. lost 7 %
Day 2: nearly same conditions as day 1 but without SD card.. lost 27 %
Now a question: are sandisk cards better? i really need a new 1 cause my samsung's ****ed up!
Hope i could help someone with this..

Use BsB Tweaker which can enable power saver for SD Card.
And keep in mind that Battery lose first half capacity very fast and then stay on long time on the level 30-40-50.
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Henry_Lee said:
Use BsB Tweaker which can enable power saver for SD Card.
And keep in mind that Battery lose first half capacity very fast and then stay on long time on the level 30-40-50.
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In my case it's the exact opposite, power loss from 100%-50% is slow, below 50% it can go empty within 7 hours in STANDBY (reproducible). Thanks for the advice with BsB Tweaker.
PS: I have a sandisk 16gb class 2.

you mean the power saving option? it's enanled since the first day..
i know that with the first half but the sd card is really killing me! currently working outside so im in need of the radio.. with sd card in it and running fm radio, battery drainage is about 19 % per hour.. thats not even a bad joke anymore, its realy frustrating!
thank god that i have electricity here

That can't be right. Must be a rogue application. I have a 16 GB card and the phone never loses more than 1-2% (radio off) during the night.

must be my samsung card.. apps are all closed over night!
i got tomtom,navigon,some music & games on my card.. no idea

Formaty sd card and try again.
Must be some application installed on sd or some problem with the sd card itself

Ill try it when im at home!
is there an alternative for the built in fm radio? tried listening without sd.. same result 3 % loss in 10 mins! how can a dumb radio use so much battery?
i remember listening radio with my nokia e90.. listend for hours with minimal battery loss

It makes sense to me, thats why I was saying this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5230146&postcount=10
Any fellows here are using the A-data class 6 16gb and dose not affect the battery life? I'd like to ask this again.
Thanks in advance.

waxfresh said:
is there an alternative for the built in fm radio? tried listening without sd.. same result 3 % loss in 10 mins!
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I tried mine too, and I lost 4% in 10 minutes, but that was with the screen on. I then turned off the radio and lost 3% in 10 minutes with the screen on, but not doing anything (other than usual-for-my-phone background tasks). I then turned the radio back on and turned the screen off, and it used less than 1% in 10 minutes (I say less than 1% because the indicator had not changed.)
To me, that says that (in my case) the battery killer is the screen, which I can accept because I have it lit very high (I just don't like it dim.)

pedmond said:
That can't be right. Must be a rogue application. I have a 16 GB card and the phone never loses more than 1-2% (radio off) during the night.
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Please tell me you are talking about the Sandisk 16GB class2

johncmolyneux said:
I tried mine too, and I lost 4% in 10 minutes, but that was with the screen on. I then turned off the radio and lost 3% in 10 minutes with the screen on, but not doing anything (other than usual-for-my-phone background tasks). I then turned the radio back on and turned the screen off, and it used less than 1% in 10 minutes (I say less than 1% because the indicator had not changed.)
To me, that says that (in my case) the battery killer is the screen, which I can accept because I have it lit very high (I just don't like it dim.)
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screen off,radio on.. still 3% in 10 min.
my screen is on 20 % light .. i also would like to set it to 100% but i dont want the battery to be empty before i can type in the pin

waxfresh said:
screen off,radio on.. still 3% in 10 min.
my screen is on 20 % light .. i also would like to set it to 100% but i dont want the battery to be empty before i can type in the pin
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The only major thing I'm considering changing, to see if it has any effect, is my windows live config. I currently have my sync frequency set to "as soon as it arrives", which requires a constant data connection (before that starts a flame war, please read this.) I'm gonna turn that off and see if it improves, but I still think the screen is my big problem.

TheGodfather-GF said:
In my case it's the exact opposite, power loss from 100%-50% is slow, below 50% it can go empty within 7 hours in STANDBY (reproducible). Thanks for the advice with BsB Tweaker.
PS: I have a sandisk 16gb class 2.
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Sounds like you need to recalibrate the "remaining-charge-estimate-circuit-thingy" in your HD2's battery. Drain battery to as near as nothing as possible and fully charge it without unplugging it (I have heard its suggested to do this with the device off). Might work straight off the first time, might take a couple goes.
Do not leave the device below 20% charge for any long period of time as it can cause problems with the Li-Ion battery.

johncmolyneux said:
The only major thing I'm considering changing, to see if it has any effect, is my windows live config. I currently have my sync frequency set to "as soon as it arrives", which requires a constant data connection (before that starts a flame war, please read this.) I'm gonna turn that off and see if it improves, but I still think the screen is my big problem.
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my live sync is off.. useing gmail with the built in mail app, updateing hourly

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my live sync is off.. useing gmail with the built in mail app, updateing hourly
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I'm gonna try it on mine and see if I have any improvement anyway. I'm sure we have different things running on our devices. I'm just trying to narrow things down before removing the SD card to see if that does anything.

SD Card is one of the factor
To my sense, if a lot of softwares in installed in your SD Card, then definitely the battery will deplete rapidly.
I install all 3G-constant-data-softwares in the system memory, not card. Those not required CONSTANT 3G data connection and not to be running 24/7 will be installed in SD card (eg. 1-Calc, TCPMP, Lexisgoo, Resco Explorer).
So far, with the stock ROM and related softwares (installed at "right" locations) gives me average 1 full day battery juice having 25% balance. And again, battery consumption is a very very subjective topic. SD card IS definitely one of the battery earter.

I have not tested the following in a very detailed way but I think it worth while trying it:
Even so I have used the power saving tweak from BsB Tweak I found in sk Tools in tuneup that all Power Saving features are switched off.
So I switched On all Power saving features in sk Tools and I have the feeling that the battery usage is less now.
For example:
From midnight full 100% charge till 8am in the morning I had 89% left which is a little bit more than 1% loss per hour and this is not bad.
But with the new Radio 2.06 I have the feeling that battery power is getting more drained during a talk or during interent connection.
On the other side the reception is quite good and I have also the feeling that data connection is better - receiving data faster after a connection is established.
Again: This are all "soft" fatcs I have not done a sientific evaluation
I have a San Disk 16GByte Class 6 storage card.
Best regards,
dingolino

Hi, are you sure that your micro sd is a sandisk class 6? cuz I've never found Sandisk has released a class 6 16GB microcard..thats why I had to buy the A-data one.
The only software I have installed in the storge card is a GPS software IGO8.
This battery issue is driving me crazy, I begin to miss my HTC HD(original 1.43 ROM) which drops only 2%(My hd2 loses about 40% power) every night, even I always have kept my data connection on.
dingolino said:
I have a San Disk 16GByte Class 6 storage card.
Best regards,
dingolino
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My personal battery killer is 3G. I have downloaded 100Mb in 5 minutes and have lost around 5% of my battery
Daniel

HTC HD2 Battery drainage?

Hi
Battery problem, keeps draining quickly, just by leaving it anywhere. I charge the htc hd2, after not much use... the battery looses charge? I have s2u2 installed any ideas why this would be?
In other words, battery is on 100%. I open it using s2u2 and close it, just random play aroung with the phone. Next minute you know the battery is going lower and lower in matter of minutes. Thats with no phone calls, few text, no music, no games played i think your getting the gist?
This is wierd? anyone else experience this?
Please can some help and advice in the right direction.
thanks.

Fame123 said:
Hi
Battery problem, keeps draining quickly, just by leaving it anywhere. I charge the htc hd2, after not much use... the battery looses charge? I have s2u2 installed any ideas why this would be?
In other words, battery is on 100%. I open it using s2u2 and close it, just random play aroung with the phone. Next minute you know the battery is going lower and lower in matter of minutes. Thats with no phone calls, few text, no music, no games played i think your getting the gist?
This is wierd? anyone else experience this?
Please can some help and advice in the right direction.u
thanks.
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Try a search as there is a ton of stuff about how to treat the battery in order to get the most out of it.

hi pa49
I have looked at soo many post on xda, but i cannot get to to the bottom of it?
1. Is there any post you might note of, that could possibly put me in to the right direction?
2. also any place you can get extended battery (not the big fat one lol)

Fame123 said:
Hi
Battery problem, keeps draining quickly, just by leaving it anywhere. I charge the htc hd2, after not much use... the battery looses charge? I have s2u2 installed any ideas why this would be?
In other words, battery is on 100%. I open it using s2u2 and close it, just random play aroung with the phone. Next minute you know the battery is going lower and lower in matter of minutes. Thats with no phone calls, few text, no music, no games played i think your getting the gist?
This is wierd? anyone else experience this?
Please can some help and advice in the right direction.
thanks.
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you may want to install battclock and check what0s your cpu usage, also disable s2u2, check differences, and whatnot... the only way you can find if it's a software problem or not is by checking with a clean rom.
Usual old boring advice, backup and hard reset, test with nothing installed, if there is the same problem of very high drainage, it's basically a good chance you need to send it back for warranty

I have exactly the same problem. Suddenly yesterday my phone's battery drained and I found my phone switched off, out of nowhere. I charged it for 3-4 hours, and then played some games, the battery was left at 85% and when I woke up today, after 6 hours, it was off again.
So you are suggesting to perform a hard reset and observe the way the battery drains?

Ok, First get the battery working at max capacity by charging it non stop for at least 2 weeks. Whenever you can and wherever you can for as long as you can.
Once you have done that there is a battery monitoring capability built into the charging circuits. You could then allow your battery to drain to cuttoff and then recharge to full again which will accurise the power remaing readout. I never bother with this step as I just use the phone and then recharge as soon as I can again, but, if it's important to you then go ahead, but, don't continually allow the cutoff point to be reached as this will damage the battery.
Now you have maximised the capacity of the battery see how it performs and assess whether you need to take further action.
Installing apps to mem card will eat battery.
Some say leaving apps open will drain the battery. I'm not too sure, but, it's good practice to close them any way.
Finding a clean and pared down cooked ROM will save a lot of power, but, you will have to do your own experimenting there.
After that you could invest in a spare/extended battery, however, I would suggest an external rechargable power pack (Have a look at the juice bar solar pack as it will recharge itself without needing a power socket or USB port (although you can use them!), purely by sunlight. Another advantage is that if you change your phone you still can use the pack with your next device and they will also charge many other devices!
Good luck!

I have my new hd2 leo, and battery seemed to be the main issue for me cause it couldn hold 1working day... but as everybody told its nessesery to charge 1 week to exercise battery for its full potential.. but i did some improvements, did the registry thing with dissablepowersavings dont remmember where found that, and instaled wmpowersaving, for control of 3g 2g data, using 2.12 radio rom, witch is more stable than 2.08 cause i use hd2 for a lot of browsing, and 2.08 was freezing my device.. 2.12 is stable and seems using much less power, i can feel less heat in the back of the case.. tried android... but that was not intterested me... i dont need those 1000ds of apps i need to browse the internet using iris browser.. and now battery easily can hold 2 days with some wifi 3g browsing.. and few phone calls some usage of camera.. witch is poor in dark conditions... so i think battery life is 2days ... and control the 2g 3g networks, turn off location service, turn off data connection.. and the battery for today evening is still 72% after 10 hrs of few phonecalls and a bit browsing with wifi.. some gps navigation i dont even think to buy expanded batery cause i dont like the BACK BIG CASE ... Also i wonder how much power is nessesary to run Micro SD built in card reader... because its a pitty to have 180mb internal memory for progams... if it had 2gb then u install everything in the memory and dont use the sd card reader witch i suppose will save couple of hours of battery.

this issue has been well documented..imo the stock rom battery life is awful lasts up to 24hour on casual use for me..there are cooked roms with better battery life or you could invest in a bigger capacity battery from htc or third party ones on ebay

There is a known issue with the HD2 and microsd cards, when the microsd's filesystem becomes corrupted, causing battery drain.

reijkelhof said:
There is a known issue with the HD2 and microsd cards, when the microsd's filesystem becomes corrupted, causing battery drain.
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I just popped out my sd card to see if it is going to see how my battery does.
I will post my conclusion tomorrow.
Jeff

innovator8 said:
I just popped out my sd card to see if it is going to see how my battery does.
I will post my conclusion tomorrow.
Jeff
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Jeff wake up

Jeff? Jeeeeeefffff!!!!

jammerlappen said:
Jeff? Jeeeeeefffff!!!!
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Oops,
Sorry, I did not really notice any difference with the card out. I am currently trying it again just to be sure.
Jeff

innovator8 said:
Oops,
Sorry, I did not really notice any difference with the card out. I am currently trying it again just to be sure.
Jeff
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Ok, so I did a quick test, I turned off the radio just to take that out of the equation.
I ran for two hours, first hour with SD card out and then an hour with it in.
From the log, you see that I am about 6 to 7 mA up until 0945 and then it started to cycle, I dont know why, the phone was in standby the whole time.
I put the SD card back in at 1016 and opened explorer just to access it once.
the cycling continued for like 30 min then settled back down to 6 to 9mA.
So, it looks like the currnt is a few mA higher with the SD card in, but I have no idea why the phone was sucking over 150mA in those four to five reading bursts when I was not using the phone.
What do you think?
Jeff

[Q] Battery issues: Please inform

I have recently found that in the past couple of days, if I charge my battery to full it will lose charge, and reset itself, exceptionally quickly.
I can have a full charge one minute, my girlfriend can call for ten minutes, and then the battery will die; when I turn my phone back on, instantly, the light will flash and the 'battery low' symbol will appear in the right hand corner of the screen; the strange thing is, when I leave the phone for ten minutes, or more, the phone will suddenly come back to life again, and start working as usual; as you can imagine, quite an annoying situation, especially when your girlfriend thinks you are constantly hanging up on her........hahaha
I have taken steps, and ordered a new battery, but I'm unsure if this is the issue, or whether or not it is the original orange rom that is the problem. It'd be of much help if someone can inform me on this issue, whether they have experienced it before, or, if they can give me any steps to change this..it'd be much appreciated.
HTC TOUCH 3G:
ROM VERSION: BUILD 20765.1.4.4
EXTERNAL STORAGE:
8GB SD CARD
INTERNAL STORAGE:
38.97MB LEFT
62.99MB OF MEMORY LEFT

I've also removed the plastic casing surrounding the phone, just incase the phone is overheating.

studentpaps said:
I have recently found that in the past couple of days, if I charge my battery to full it will lose charge, and reset itself, exceptionally quickly.
I can have a full charge one minute, my girlfriend can call for ten minutes, and then the battery will die; when I turn my phone back on, instantly, the light will flash and the 'battery low' symbol will appear in the right hand corner of the screen; the strange thing is, when I leave the phone for ten minutes, or more, the phone will suddenly come back to life again, and start working as usual; as you can imagine, quite an annoying situation, especially when your girlfriend thinks you are constantly hanging up on her........hahaha
I have taken steps, and ordered a new battery, but I'm unsure if this is the issue, or whether or not it is the original orange rom that is the problem. It'd be of much help if someone can inform me on this issue, whether they have experienced it before, or, if they can give me any steps to change this..it'd be much appreciated.
HTC TOUCH 3G:
ROM VERSION: BUILD 20765.1.4.4
EXTERNAL STORAGE:
8GB SD CARD
INTERNAL STORAGE:
38.97MB LEFT
62.99MB OF MEMORY LEFT
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hi
1. how old is ur phone may be its more than a yr old and its time for a new battery mine is around 2yrs and the battery is draining fast but then i gave it to my wife whos usage is not much and its ok for her
battery life is something u cant really comment on some get great life some get not all that good life mine was quite good for all the usage and flashing i did
but im sure ur new battery will give u better battery life i dont thing theirs any thing wrong with ur phone this as per my experience thats all

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The problem that I have is that it only occurs when I'm on the phone; the phone conversation will last between 2-5 mins and then just cut off and reset; the phone works perfectly fine when I'm doing any other task- I can stream programmes on myplayer, etc. So, all I can do is wait for my new battery and hope it's a battery fault.
I bought the phone second hand, so the battery and the phone maybe more than a year old, so I just have to wait and see. It just seems a bit random, especially since the phone was working perfectly about a week ago. It seems like something has affected the battery, or something that won't allow me to make or accept any incoming phone calls.
Oh, and thank you Haree for your reply.
Regards,
Nick

method for fix HD2 SD android standby battery drain 50+ma

This method is suitable for hd2 SD Android, not test on NAND mode. If you encounter problems as the standby battery consumption(50+ma), you can try this method to solve:
If you reboot android and monitor the standby battery drain is 3~5ma,do not happy too early and think that you get a good android rom, because after reboot,it will likely become 50+ma;
If you reboot android and monitor the standby battery drain is more than 50ma, do not despair, don't think that this version is so bad and you need to replace another immediately, because you can use this method below to fix:
Steps:
1, reboot WM, don't hurry, wait 1 minute, let's WM fully reboot, especially some softwares installed on SD but need to run when reboot. press the power button to turn off screen(not shutdown mobile), open the back cover, remove the TF card, the screen will light up, tap the power button again to turn off the screen (not shutdown), wait 10 seconds, insert the tf card, the screen lights up again, now boot android and monitor standby battery consumption, 90% under 10ma ----- In short, that is, before boot android, pull out and plug in TF card;
2, if fail, you need pull out and plug in battery before reboot WM, then repeat the above steps;
If works, please say thanks
Don't charger when monitor standby battery drain, please use currentwidget monitor and use its log function to record. What is "the standby power consumption" pls consult Mr. Google.

Other users reported that changing the sd to another one solved the high drain in standby for them, so you basically are saying the same.
I use the original 2GB card the few times I decide to test android, because first time I tested superram build, my 16GB card got wiped for some unknown reason; I may as well see if your method changes anything.

Worked for me! Tnx!
Had 50+mA wen using android sd, very annoying because in the beginning I had no problems.
Now it's back on 8mA! Tnx!

Thanks
Thanks for the solution, seems to work every now and then when i get high drain on standby ^^ thanks

At first try, this seems to work well. I was getting 60+ ma usage in standby with Darkstone's SuperRAM build, even with a fresh install. Going through this little bit of voodoo got my standby usage down to the 5-8ma range. Thanks for finding this, though I don't like thinking about how much trial and error it took to discover.
I just hope I don't have to do this every time I reboot.
Thanks...

Was getting low power usage through this morning, when I unplugged the phone from the charger. I had left Android running on the phone overnight. I discovered that the HD2 was back to using 60ma when I got back to work. Repeated the magic spell, and I was back down to 8ma in standby. Really strange. Does anyone have any kind of explanation for this behavior?

Wow thx work like a charm.
imrazor - My theory is by pulling the SD card out in WM you stop all applications that use the SD and when you boot android the SD card is only used by android. Well thats what I think ^^
The point is it works and we now have better MA in standby.

Sort of works
The SD fix does take the standby drain to around 7mA, however I can only wake the phone once. The next time I try to power up, my phone never cuts on, and I have to pull the battery.

This is exactly what I am looking for. I will try it. Is it possible to write a program in WM to do this instead of pulling out SD Card?

Hello,
cygwinxp said:
This is exactly what I am looking for. I will try it. Is it possible to write a program in WM to do this instead of pulling out SD Card?
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That's an amazing solution.
If someone can tell me what to kill, I can try do create this nice prog...

Any idea why it works?

Didn work for me... Dont know did I do it right? I normaly shutdown my phone, do those things with the sd card (plug in plug out) and when I start android continuesly 50-70mA on stanby.. I did the battery thing and still the same...

Have MIUI SD ROM.
Current changed from time to time from 5-8mA to 50-70mA and back.
Killing all applications sometime give effect to decrease current.
Switching off autolight sensor sometime give effect to decrease current.
Sometime call in/call out give increase current.
Switching off in-pocket and near-ear sensors (call settings) give good effect to decrease current.
...
continue testiing
my head is overheat

switching on near-ear sensor after call return power consumption to 60-70mA.
switching off near-ear sensor not give decrease current.
call in/out not give effect.
sw on/off auto backlight not give effect.
sometime callout decrease current to 6-8mA,
but best result give system restart

Turn off HTC Sense
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If someone can tell me what to kill, I can try do create this nice prog...
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HD2 SD android standby battery drain 50+ma comes from 3 places:
1) What was running in Windows Mobile when you boot Android
2) The Android ROM you use
3) What is running in Android
1) The answer is turn off HTC Sense
When I turn off HTC Sense in Windows Mobile I get much better battery drain in Android. If I do not turn off HTC Sense then I usually get standby battery drain 50+ma. So flap can you create a nice prog to turn off HTC Sense etc. and then boot Android?
HTC Sense is not the only program. In addition to turning off Sense first, running a RAM cleaner (e.g. cleanRAM) in Windows Mobile will also help or - even better - reboot Windows Mobile without HTC Sense before launching Android.
2) use Portadroid to easily try different SD Android ROMs
3) see BetterBatteryStats
Cheers
Tom

I started having this problem one day randomly (after i installed some new apps). However, even after i installed all the new updates and apps the problem persisted. I tried this method you mentioned and now my battery standby drainage is back to 7mA (instead of 30-60mA). Don't know how it works, but it solved my problem. I have since reinstalled the apps that I wanted and it has been working fine for 24hours...

thanks man

hi i just ask you what mean Tf Crad? SD card or SIM card

Hello, it doesn't work for my HTC Leo. I have battery drain 230-800 ma on the latest MIUI SD ROM. Any idea what should I do next? Maybe I must change the program, that measure the battery current? Now I'm using CurrentWidget.

Thank you, I will test it.