I rooted an epic with the new file system last night. Its pretty zippy. Any chance the CM7 nightlies will work on this phone soon. Works great on my EVO. Also can the EVO support file system?
Thank God for the download option (pressing one) or the phone would be at the bottom of the lake.
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I think I remember seeing where we need.the source code for.froyo for cm7. I.could be wrong though
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I think I remember seeing where we need.the source code for.froyo for cm7. I.could be wrong though
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Cynagon tweeted the other day that noobles builds of cm6 and cm7 are not supported by cynagon him self or the cynagon team.
What was built for the evo will not work on the epic. It has to be ported and nooble if working on that
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Shame. Its great on evo. At least it an update that sprint will never get around to.
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Meh. In reality CM is just hyped for no reason. Sense ran faster on the Evo than CM. People assume CM is faster because of what? The fact that Sense is no longer there and Quadrant scores. Well...Quadrant scores can be manipulated and Sense always ran better. If ya want that whole CM experience, just get ADW EX. Thats basically what CM is...well..that is if you dont go into the CM settings and adjust anything. But if you just leave CM barebones, its just ADW EX. So hit up ADW EX or Launcher Pro. Both are in the market.
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Meh. In reality CM is just hyped for no reason. Sense ran faster on the Evo than CM. People assume CM is faster because of what? The fact that Sense is no longer there and Quadrant scores. Well...Quadrant scores can be manipulated and Sense always ran better. If ya want that whole CM experience, just get ADW EX. Thats basically what CM is...well..that is if you dont go into the CM settings and adjust anything. But if you just leave CM barebones, its just ADW EX. So hit up ADW EX or Launcher Pro. Both are in the market.
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You sir are misinformed. Cynagon is what android should be. Its built from the aosp source. No manufactures ui. No carrier branding or bloatware. Its also slimmend down and tweaked.
Cynagon ran faster, better, and smother then any sense rom on my evo
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Why should I download something cyanogen himself don't want part of.. That sucks .. He won't help with us epic users
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Why should I download something cyanogen himself don't want part of.. That sucks .. He won't help with us epic users
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Noob is a great dev and is building cynagon mod from cynagons source. so when its all said and done its cynagon. Its just built from someone else
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You sir are misinformed. Cynagon is what android should be. Its built from the aosp source. No manufactures ui. No carrier branding or bloatware. Its also slimmend down and tweaked.
Cynagon ran faster, better, and smother then any sense rom on my evo
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I'm 100% positive it ran "faster" simply because it looked like it should because there wasn't any bloatware. Speaking of bloatware..bloatware as in apps...that's actually kind of a dumb way of blaming performance. I say dumb because an app is just an app...and whenever I checked, none of those apps constantly ran in the background aside from amazon mp3 which didnt cause poor performance because even without ending its process it all ran the same.
The rooted 3.70 rom is running real smooth and CM7 just runs just like ADW EX, matter of fact..CM's launcher is ADW, so of course it'll run pretty smooth. You can put ADW on the Meizu m9 rom and it'll run smooth..but I still dont think its really any smoother than Sense. 3G was better on Sense roms too. CM roms would have the 3G go to sleep and it would take forever for it to wake up...you could be in the browser and the page just hangs because the 3G isn't active. So in order to activate it, you had to open up another page and go to a different website. You even had to do that when downloading something from the market >.< That was not a problem with Sense.
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I'm 100% positive it ran "faster" simply because it looked like it should because there wasn't any bloatware. Speaking of bloatware..bloatware as in apps...that's actually kind of a dumb way of blaming performance. I say dumb because an app is just an app...and whenever I checked, none of those apps constantly ran in the background aside from amazon mp3 which didnt cause poor performance because even without ending its process it all ran the same.
The rooted 3.70 rom is running real smooth and CM7 just runs just like ADW EX, matter of fact..CM's launcher is ADW, so of course it'll run pretty smooth. You can put ADW on the Meizu m9 rom and it'll run smooth..but I still dont think its really any smoother than Sense. 3G was better on Sense roms too. CM roms would have the 3G go to sleep and it would take forever for it to wake up...you could be in the browser and the page just hangs because the 3G isn't active. So in order to activate it, you had to open up another page and go to a different website. You even had to do that when downloading something from the market >.< That was not a problem with Sense.
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the reason cynagon uses adw is cause it looks like the stock aosp launcher and it runs smoother. The reason cm7 is slow and choppy is cause its not 100%. You need to remember the evo don't have gingerbread source. There's alot of hurdles to jump to get a updated os to work when that os hasn't been designed for that device. There basically building gingerbread for the evo from the ground up.
If you wanna compare apples to apples you need to speak about cm6 against sense based roms.
Amazon is not the only sprint bloatware that runs in the background. Grab os,monitor from the market and you'll see allot of sprint processors running in the background. Yes you can remove them from a sense rom but then your left with sense. Even if you use adw and remove the sense launcher sense is still there. Sense is hardcoded into other apps, framework, and .jar files. There is no way to remove sense from a sense based rom.
Some people like sense and everything it brings and others like pure aosp.
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the reason cynagon uses adw is cause it looks like the stock aosp launcher and it runs smoother. The reason cm7 is slow and choppy is cause its not 100%. You need to remember the evo don't have gingerbread source. There's alot of hurdles to jump to get a updated os to work when that os hasn't been designed for that device. There basically building gingerbread for the evo from the ground up.
If you wanna compare apples to apples you need to speak about cm6 against sense based roms.
Amazon is not the only sprint bloatware that runs in the background. Grab os,monitor from the market and you'll see allot of sprint processors running in the background. Yes you can remove them from a sense rom but then your left with sense. Even if you use adw and remove the sense launcher sense is still there. Sense is hardcoded into other apps, framework, and .jar files. There is no way to remove sense from a sense based rom.
Some people like sense and everything it brings and others like pure aosp.
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CM6 and CM7 run just about the same...In my example you can switch those two out and my previous message still makes sense. And with those apps in the background do they really slow down performance? Actual, no, the only thing they would be guilty of is either A) preventing your phone from sleeping which will lead to B) poor battery life.
Sense rom + ADW EX launcher runs just the same as CM6 or CM7.
Just for kicks, Im going to go put on CM6, CM7, Sense and Sense + ADW EX...I feel the need to confirm that I am right.
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CM6 and CM7 run just about the same...In my example you can switch those two out and my previous message still makes sense. And with those apps in the background do they really slow down performance? Actual, no, the only thing they would be guilty of is either A) preventing your phone from sleeping which will lead to B) poor battery life.
Sense rom + ADW EX launcher runs just the same as CM6 or CM7.
Just for kicks, Im going to go put on CM6, CM7, Sense and Sense + ADW EX...I feel the need to confirm that I am right.
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You do that but its not gonna prove anything. As i mentioned before some like sense and others like pure aosp. I for one will choose aosp over any manufacturers ui.
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Cynagon tweeted the other day that noobles builds of cm6 and cm7 are not supported by cynagon him self or the cynagon team.
What was built for the evo will not work on the epic. It has to be ported and nooble if working on that
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Now I feel bad for noob. Id say he's making great progress and that explains a lot about the reason why certain things aren't working yet
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Now I feel bad for noob. Id say he's making great progress and that explains a lot about the reason why certain things aren't working yet
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I think the reason why the official cm guys won't support noob is because he isn't working from gpl source code so they can't until source code is officially released. I'm pretty sure that the evo froyo source code is now public domain, were as the epic is still not.
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I think the reason why the official cm guys won't support noob is because he isn't working from gpl source code so they can't until source code is officially released. I'm pretty sure that the evo froyo source code is now public domain, were as the epic is still not.
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Yeah the evo had sauce since like a week after froyo dropped *which was like a month after the phone did*
Sammy needs to follow suitttttt
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CM6 and CM7 run just about the same...In my example you can switch those two out and my previous message still makes sense. And with those apps in the background do they really slow down performance? Actual, no, the only thing they would be guilty of is either A) preventing your phone from sleeping which will lead to B) poor battery life.
Sense rom + ADW EX launcher runs just the same as CM6 or CM7.
Just for kicks, Im going to go put on CM6, CM7, Sense and Sense + ADW EX...I feel the need to confirm that I am right.
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dude.... bad form, Why are you being pushy and arrogant about an opinion that everyone is entitled to. Why dont you stop trolling and go write a sense based ROM for your awesome Evo that gets all the cyanogen lovers back in your boat. At least that way you will have made a difference with your opinion instead of clogging up our forums with this relentless argumentative BS.
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dude.... bad form, Why are you being pushy and arrogant about an opinion that everyone is entitled to. Why dont you stop trolling and go write a sense based ROM for your awesome Evo that gets all the cyanogen lovers back in your boat. At least that way you will have made a difference with your opinion instead of clogging up our forums with this relentless argumentative BS.
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Have you yourself personally ran a sense rom for a month and then cyanogenmod for a month and then a sense rom again for a month? Have you ran the nightlies from 6.1 to 7? Have you ran MIUI? have you ran Sense 2.0? Please let me know if you have and let me know which one was smoother. If not, run all of those and try to tell me which one is smoother...their all the same (well...MIUI has an advantage. That rom just feels too good).
If you have, you'd know where I was coming from. If I believe that my opinion is right and I have some sort of proof for it, then Im going to go with it. Sure, thats annoying to others but what sense does it make for me to have the proof and evidence and just give in because thats the nice thing to do? Did you even read my first post in this thread? I actually contributed to this thread. I tacked on my opinion but I still contributed. Something that your message did not do. And you want to talk about clogging...
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Have you yourself personally ran a sense rom for a month and then cyanogenmod for a month and then a sense rom again for a month? Have you ran the nightlies from 6.1 to 7? Have you ran MIUI? have you ran Sense 2.0? Please let me know if you have and let me know which one was smoother. If not, run all of those and try to tell me which one is smoother...their all the same (well...MIUI has an advantage. That rom just feels too good).
If you have, you'd know where I was coming from. If I believe that my opinion is right and I have some sort of proof for it, then Im going to go with it. Sure, thats annoying to others but what sense does it make for me to have the proof and evidence and just give in because thats the nice thing to do? Did you even read my first post in this thread? I actually contributed to this thread. I tacked on my opinion but I still contributed. Something that your message did not do. And you want to talk about clogging...
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I for one have done exactly what you said and I still choose cynagon over sense.
Fyi: if it wasn't for having a pure aosp rom the evo would have never got miui
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mysteryemotionz said:
I for one have done exactly what you said and I still choose cynagon over sense.
Fyi: if it wasn't for having a pure aosp rom the evo would have never got miui
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You right though (I'm going back to your message before this one if I can remember correctly). You prefer Cyanogenmod and I prefer Sense. To me it all comes down to UI, I just refuse to believe that one is smoother than the other, but thats just me. I mean, the 3.7 rom came a long way when compared to that garbage that was originally on the Evo. Now that Sense was just abysmal.
And yeah I'm aware of MIUI, its based on Cyanogenmod. But it uses the Launcher2 or w/e its called. I really like its messaging and music app. I miss those a lot. But the music app can be pushed to anything...unfortunately the messaging app cannot. But I think its messaging app was based off of the Droid X? I remember seeing a pic of the Droid X's messaging app on a TV show and it looked just like the MIUI one so I assume its interface is the same.
So... Samsung Epic 4G General or what?
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Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
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Is there anyone else out there who can't wait to root this phone and get Sense off of it?
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I went from liking it, to hating it, now I'm back to liking it agian, but that's just me.
Simple solution, disable it, if you can't disable it, get a homescreen replacement from the market. As for the other apps like the keyboards and messenger apps and stuff there's alternatives for those as well.
Other than modifying or adding internal background stuff (editing the kernel or low level services) I don't see any reason why you really need root anymore. At least not for my needs anyway.
I am a big fan of AOSP but that seems like it's the only advantage in my eyes to having root nowadays, everything else can be done with crafty market apps.
Talk to me agian after the next upgrade to android is all the rage, you will see me with my foot in my mouth for sure =P
I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I can see myself turning off many of the gizmos and widgets in that Sense thing. Too much junk running.
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I take it that you haven't played with the hero or anything like that?
go to a sprint store and try it out, finding ways to disable it is much easier than trying to add it in if you want it. Those that don't have it pre-installed want it, those that do have it want it gone.
The problem most people hated it was because it slowed down the hero, it runs at half the speed and half the ram approximately of the evo, it really shouldn't be a problem and it's just eye candy, and the benefits of having it outweigh the problem of it being on there by default. It's mainly just a grass is greener thing mostly.
The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
No idea what you hate about it. What do you all think is running in the background that you're all so concerned about? The widgets? It's not like stock Android doesn't have them either.
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I love Sense UI ...
I like it. It makes SENSE
I love how some quantify something they haven't experienced on the actual phone itself yet.
It's like saying I hate playing a 3D game that runs on a 2D graphics card with a slow experience and lag. WELL DUH!
I have the new sense ui on my nexus one and its 10x faster then wm version.
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The widgets can be easily removed from the home screen by a simple one time hold+drag.
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Yeah, that's what I meant.
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I'm not the only one in these parts with an HD2, but I assure you WinMo 6.5(x) runs sense fast and smooth. If Android is as fast as I believe, sense will not be a deal breaker....or as previously stated, just turn it off.
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I'm with you on this... I too have an HD2 and it runs Sence as smooth as silk.
My Brother has the Desire and it too with Sence slides along very nicely.
I'm not saying I hate sense UI because when i've used it it ran slow or because i couldn't figure it out. I don't like it because of how it's layed out, the configuration of it does not fit me. If I can change it or disable it, I will be a happy person.
Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
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I have the hero with Android 2.1 ROM
It has weaker hardware.. less memory.. slower CPU
I have sense and live wallpaper running at the same time
It is perfect.. smooth... fast.. beautiful.. everything works.
I can not imagine the evo having any issues with sense or any software!
I love sense and all it gives me
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But stock 1.5 isn't exactly smooth, even the 2.1 isn't quite buttery smooth, the custom roms are, but I don't think with that much power behind it that it will be a problem, and just think what will happen when xda gets their hands on it
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Personally I couldn't care less. Sense or no Sense. I think it looks nice and all but I'm a hacker bred from the Cyanogen camp. I love speed and Sense just slows things down. I am sure on a 1Ghz device with 512MB RAM it should run without any lag. I'm still an AOSP fan however and hope we don't run into the kernel issues with this device as we are with the Hero. On the Hero we are still running .27 or .29 for those who want the canmera. I feel ancient!
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hope the whole camp jump's on this one i prefer aosp over senseless anyday of the week i install the widgets i want on my device don't need htc or sprint's bloated ****gets taking up valuable memory space
The reason sense slows things down is because they have been stuffing it on two year old devices with barely an acceptable amount of storage and ram. The new devices from the evo and incredible don't see these issues because the extra ten megs is nothing where on the regular hero makes a big difference as you start opening up more and more ****.
It will be a non issue on the evo. If you prefer asop all the more power to you I also like it but the largest complaints against sense are going to be obsolete soon enough now that devices actually have more horse power and memory.
i looooovvvee sense ui..had it on my g1, htc magic, hero, nexus one, and soon to be evo 4g
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Lets hope one of the first custom roms is for AOSP. I am running an AOSP build on my hero and I LOVE it!
I'm looking forward to it. I love it on my buddies hero. Just makes android that much better.
Hey guys sometimes my evo will start to lag really bad and I found the cause to be sense using insane cpu. Does this ever happen to anyone else? I really love sense
and would hate to give it up for this reason. Tired multiple roms and all have this issue. Currently running latest fresh with baked snacks number 5 kernel.
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Have you tried a sense less rom? I deleted Rosie along other apks and running launcher pro, I don't have that issue w my current set up, virus rom btw.
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" Oh this is terrible! Sense is garbage! I rooted my EVO and loaded a bunch of UNOFFICIAL software on it and now it really sucks! Stupid Sense! "
Give me a break!
Sense time fine on my unrooted stock Evo with 2.2
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Pro-tip: Rosie (the Sense launcher) sucks ass.
I thought about it being other software but don't see how that can cause sense to take up CPU because I assumed the other programs would see the CPU time instead of sense. It doesn't happen all the time but it does happen occasionally and also if i reboot it seems to fix the problem
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I thought about it being other software but don't see how that can cause sense to take up CPU because I assumed the other programs would see the CPU time instead of sense. It doesn't happen all the time but it does happen occasionally and also if i reboot it seems to fix the problem
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How are you monitoring this? System Panel?
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Pro-tip: Rosie (the Sense launcher) sucks ass.
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Pro-tip: That is an opinion. Not a fact. In fact, it's not even an opinion. It's a false statement. Had you worded it "I do not prefer to use Rosie (the Sense launcher)" it would have been an opinion. Therefore, your post is completely useless.
To the OP, try wiping and starting over. Fresh rom is based off of a later OTA that uses a newer kernel than the baked snack kernels. I would recommend using baked snack 1.7 rom. That is my current favorite Sense rom. Check that out, and pm me if you want it to look like Fresh rom or stock sense
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Pro-tip: That is an opinion. Not a fact. In fact, it's not even an opinion. It's a false statement. Had you worded it "I do not prefer to use Rosie (the Sense launcher)" it would have been an opinion. Therefore, your post is completely useless.
To the OP, try wiping and starting over. Fresh rom is based off of a later OTA that uses a newer kernel than the baked snack kernels. I would recommend using baked snack 1.7 rom. That is my current favorite Sense rom. Check that out, and pm me if you want it to look like Fresh rom or stock sense
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No, Rosie has less features, no customization, and uses more resources than the quality alternatives (ADW and LauncherPro). Those are solid facts, and I stand by my original statement that Rosie blows.
Switched to virus rom with sense currently the problem has gone away.
Problem is returned. Sense is also draining most of my battery according to system monitor. I have tried virus fresh Calkulin and am currently on myn warm twopointtwo.
Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
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Problem is returned. Sense is also draining most of my battery according to system monitor. I have tried virus fresh Calkulin and am currently on myn warm twopointtwo.
Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
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Probably HTC's shoddy coding. I'm probably going to get flamed by the HTC/Sense fanyboys but AOSP/stock is the only way to go.
Is there a way to get the HTC widgets on a non sense rom? My main reason for not switching over. Im downloading vaelpak as of right now ill try it out and see how it goes.
Cm6 > sense
Cm6 = no 4G.
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Is there a way to get the HTC widgets on a non sense rom? My main reason for not switching over. Im downloading vaelpak as of right now ill try it out and see how it goes.
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this may not be a sense vs cm issue at all. It's happening with multiple sense roms, and you use sense widgets. Maybe that's the issue. Don't use the widgets and see if it still happens. Use systempanel and find out what's using the cpu.
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Edit - try an app called watchdog task manager lite. It can be set to alert you when your cpu usage hits certain levels, and tell you what's causing it.
Why so many cm6 fanbois?
The whole point of the evo is the 4g. You guys shoulda just got an hd2 for half the price.
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Cm6 is a blazing fast rom....and sense has about 80mb of bloat in their rom. But 4g, hdmi, and fm radio are important features that set our phones apart. I think cyanogen is getting 4g in his area any day now and I think he's going to start working on our phones again. At least I hope.
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Cm6 = no 4G.
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I had a 2-3 key reasons for getting the EVO (I already have a iPhone 4), and WiMax/4G tethering was one of them. I've been using CM6 stable since it's release. That is all.
MaliciousOne said:
Why so many cm6 fanbois?
The whole point of the evo is the 4g. You guys shoulda just got an hd2 for half the price.
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The HD2 isn't on Sprint and it doesn't run Android natively. Besides, 4G on CM will eventually come and HTC Sense is just too unbearable for me to use.
As the title states looking for opinions on what non-CM Gingerbread ROMs are working best for other users. This also excludes ROMs based on CM. As much as Im not a Sense fan, Im at the point where I dont care if it is Sense or not. Im thinking of switching from CM7 mainly cause the GPS issue has finally gotten to me (ive tried all fixes and have GPS working but its so crappy compared to stock). Enough of that, time to move on. Welcome to opinions on some Gingerbread roms.
well i find the meXdroidMod meXperia remeX really awesome, though its cm nightly based, i think a good non cm would be the ginger-sense by gingervillian
I never was a Sense fan until I came across Virtuous. Best ROM for the G2 in my opinion. I'm always trying other ROMs just to keep up with what's out there, but I keep coming back to Virtuous as my daily driver. Everything just works with it, including GPS.
MIUI hands down. I love how fast and smooth it is, especially with pershoot's latest kernel.
miui for sure...
was gonna suggest ultimate droid. but its cm7 based. sooo.. miui. best rom IMHO
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MIUI hands down. I love how fast and smooth it is, especially with pershoot's latest kernel.
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Yea MIUI! My favorite. I think you will like UD( UltimateDroid) Its based on CM but I think its a little bit better but that's just me of course.
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ultimate droid 3.3 is the best i've come across thus far.
I wouldn't recommend MIUI, it's boring.
mexdroid and pyromod are great but are CM based yet I don't experience GPS issues.
non CM7 based I recommend this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
it's sense but one of the best sense roms out there.
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass. I really want to try the miui, but there are like five different ones in rom manager and two or three on the forum, no idea which is most up to date, supported the most, or used by the most people. Is miui supposed to be iphone clone?
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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ultimate droid 3.3 is the best i've come across thus far.
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+1, its pretty awesome
xsteven77x said:
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass. I really want to try the miui, but there are like five different ones in rom manager and two or three on the forum, no idea which is most up to date, supported the most, or used by the most people. Is miui supposed to be iphone clone?
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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yup that's what it's supposed to be with a little bit of android.
Thugnificent69 said:
I wouldn't recommend MIUI, it's boring.
mexdroid and pyromod are great but are CM based yet I don't experience GPS issues.
non CM7 based I recommend this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
it's sense but one of the best sense roms out there.
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Aha... we were just saying. It matters how you like a rom.I like Miui, haven't been in any other rom for a long time.
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is there any rom that has the tweeks from Ultimatedroid but gingersense based?
Use gingervillian 1.5 its stock with cm7 settings which you can use optional if you want.
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xsteven77x said:
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass.
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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Some issues with ultimatedroid(for g2) are thus follows:
~Gps is still borked.
~After you select one alternate theme no other one will install, same goes for boot animation though in the case of boot animations once you have selected an alternate you cannot change it.
~Font changes do not work.
~Applications like to uninstall themselves.
UD "seems" snappy but it is entirely due to sped up render effects. I pulled just as fast & faster quadrant scores running CM6.1.1 with pershoots latest kernel.
Speed is in the eye of the beholder people. So far virtually ever rom I've tried that is based on CM7 code has some sort of "gotta pray to machine gods" type element to get GPS going. Virtuous is laggy even with overclocking past 1ghz and if you don't dig SenseUI you're up a creek. The only major rom I have yet to try is MIUI but I really don't dig iphone style integration so I guess I'm just going to be stuck on CM6.1.1 till the official Gingerbread release for the g2 comes out.
astriaos said:
Some issues with ultimatedroid(for g2) are thus follows:
~Gps is still borked.
~After you select one alternate theme no other one will install, same goes for boot animation though in the case of boot animations once you have selected an alternate you cannot change it.
~Font changes do not work.
~Applications like to uninstall themselves.
UD "seems" snappy but it is entirely due to sped up render effects. I pulled just as fast & faster quadrant scores running CM6.1.1 with pershoots latest kernel.
Speed is in the eye of the beholder people. So far virtually ever rom I've tried that is based on CM7 code has some sort of "gotta pray to machine gods" type element to get GPS going. Virtuous is laggy even with overclocking past 1ghz and if you don't dig SenseUI you're up a creek. The only major rom I have yet to try is MIUI but I really don't dig iphone style integration so I guess I'm just going to be stuck on CM6.1.1 till the official Gingerbread release for the g2 comes out.
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I think the gps varies partly on hardware also, because I have never had any of the aforementioned problems on UD (given I never tried to change the font), and gps worked fine. As in accuracy three meters and under and no drifting. Gps works for me on all these roms that people say it is broke on when the OP states the technically it is working correctly. Coming from a vibrant before I have seen how wildly gps hardware quality can vary with a given model, I do believe people when they say it doesn't work for them but there are also people who never expierience these problems.
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you can use miui with a different launcher then its not really all that iphone'ish, i have used miui as my rom for most the time i have had my phone and it runs grate i used it as i love the luncher others seem to swear by it with luncher pro or adw though.
atm i am trying to get over my app drawer hate so i can try some more roms out there, sense seems to work best with the phone seen as it has been made for the keybaord or so i have have found anyway.
is there any luncher/mod out there that will remove an app form the drawer when its on a homepage?
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you can use miui with a different launcher then its not really all that iphone'ish, i have used miui as my rom for most the time i have had my phone and it runs grate i used it as i love the luncher others seem to swear by it with luncher pro or adw though.
atm i am trying to get over my app drawer hate so i can try some more roms out there, sense seems to work best with the phone seen as it has been made for the keybaord or so i have have found anyway.
is there any luncher/mod out there that will remove an app form the drawer when its on a homepage?
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Launcher pro and adw have to option to hide apps in the app drawer... I'm like 98% positive... I think adw is called categories..
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I was using GingerVillain for months because my GPS wouldn't run on my old radio with CM7. Once i upgraded my radio I used CM7. GingerVillain was great considering it was would before CM7 but did have some issues with randomly restarting.
I don't believe the xboarders rom is CM based. It's just straight up, no bs, stock gingerbread.
Well I know what it is, best thing to ever have on my htc hero when I owned one. But now it seems like AOSP is almost non existant on here. I love AOSP, and I love sense. There both awesome IMO. I would stick with AOSP if it had reflow capability. But seriously....what happened to the huge AOSP fanbase? Sense 3.0...the new AOSP.
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Users are addicted to the Eye Crack.. ie Sense 3.x
IMO miui has more eye candy than sense 3.x
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in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
im bact to sense now, nocturnals stock rom but rooted with all bloat removed. i forgot how fast and responsive my phone could be!
needless to say im happy to be back to sense
i keep sense and AOSP booted. I like the functionality and lightness of AOSP, but there are couple little things on sense that I like as well. Cameras, calendar, and weather primarily, but when I don't feel like charging my battery every 6 hours, I switch back to salvagemod or MIUI.
Toney Starks said:
in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
im bact to sense now, nocturnals stock rom but rooted with all bloat removed. i forgot how fast and responsive my phone could be!
needless to say im happy to be back to sense
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I'm trying to think but nothing happens.
Toney Starks said:
in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
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I hope by "functional" you mean out of the box. There is almost nothing you can do with Sense that you can't do with AOSP. It may require some tweaking to get it the way you want, but you can do anything you want with AOSP and, as a general rule, it is much faster than Sense.
I believe in the last couple week I have been through and checked out over a dozen ROMs. I love the speed of aosp roms but I keep coming back to sense because there are some functions and widgets I do like that I just cannot get. I normally get 24 hours on average for a single charge on any sense rom after playing with kernels and battery tweaks. Both are great. Just depends on my mood and how often I want change.
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Users are addicted to the Eye Crack.. ie Sense 3.x
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Nailed it! Sense 3.x is new but still hogs system memory and cpu. If I want a Sense ROM I go back to stock rooted ROMs. None of this 3.x stuff. I use LauncherPro+ anyway, so the eye "crack" is useless.
Art2Fly said:
IMO miui has more eye candy than sense 3.x
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I agree, but it is missing 4G, which is why I haven't made it more than a day using it. :-(
Toney Starks said:
in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
im bact to sense now, nocturnals stock rom but rooted with all bloat removed. i forgot how fast and responsive my phone could be!
needless to say im happy to be back to sense
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I go back an forth between Sense stock and DecksGB. I also like the stability with stock Sense ROMs, but hate the way it looks. I found that Deck got it right with his AOSP ROM.
I am sure AOSP ROMs will start showing up again once Ice Cream Sandwich makes its way out.
AirborneCmH said:
I believe in the last couple week I have been through and checked out over a dozen ROMs. I love the speed of aosp roms but I keep coming back to sense because there are some functions and widgets I do like that I just cannot get. I normally get 24 hours on average for a single charge on any sense rom after playing with kernels and battery tweaks. Both are great. Just depends on my mood and how often I want change.
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What functions and Widgets are you talking about? You can pretty much replicate sense just from simply searching on the market.
roids87 said:
What functions and Widgets are you talking about? You can pretty much replicate sense just from simply searching on the market.
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I agree..and I'll admit that sense has it's pros but it's so bland. Even the themes r stale. Not to knock on the hard work that the devs put in on all things sense, but customization goes right out the window... I've gone through all and will always stick with aosp. I use WL and launcherpro/golauncher and it's beautiful. My fone will never look like anyone else's.
nobody calls my EVO a fizzle and gets away with it!!
I keep MikG sense and
MIUI aosp NADROID on my SD card
I just get beeter battery life on aosp with tiamat sbc kernels.
But when i travel to a 4G city I nandroid to MikG
But it seems the choices have been whittled down since the gingerbread update.
Decks,salvage Zen,Cmod, and MIUI
MikG, Virus,Fresh,,synergy.
unless you want to be on a dead ROM.
Here is a good page to check rom updates...
http://evo4g.roms-db.com/
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Always have and probably always will hate sense. I run Miui or Evo Deck exclusively.
My next phone will likely be a Nexus S, even though I love htc phones.
Somewhere between getting stuck when coming back from an app and annoying keyboard issues within the messenger combined with the EOL status...
So what are the options people? I'm currently playing with Go Launcher and a Sense 4.0 theme, which oddly feels faster while being more customizable. I didn't care for the default Go Launcher theme it rubbed me wrong, probably the only part of Sense I still like is the icons and presentation of apps. Thinking about going to a rooted stock with custom kernel or a custom rom with custom kernel. I don't know, really confused right now
Dogan
Love the hardware, not loving the software.
My personal favorite launcher is GoLauncher over Sense. Both Supreme Sense XII and newSENSE are great ROMs but I know what you mean. Here's what I did recently on Supreme Sense XII.
Dogahn said:
Somewhere between getting stuck when coming back from an app and annoying keyboard issues within the messenger combined with the EOL status...
So what are the options people? I'm currently playing with Go Launcher and a Sense 4.0 theme, which oddly feels faster while being more customizable. I didn't care for the default Go Launcher theme it rubbed me wrong, probably the only part of Sense I still like is the icons and presentation of apps. Thinking about going to a rooted stock with custom kernel or a custom rom with custom kernel. I don't know, really confused right now
Dogan
Love the hardware, not loving the software.
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Well the Software is actually what gives you the Freedom to do whatever you want. It all depends on the combination of Rom, Kernel, and Mods you choose. Here are just a few Themes and Skins I've Ported, or helped with .
Wow Prboy1969 those are prety awesome! Is it possible to get the dock in the first pic on Sense 3.5 or 3.0?
Dogahn said:
Somewhere between getting stuck when coming back from an app and annoying keyboard issues within the messenger combined with the EOL status...
So what are the options people? I'm currently playing with Go Launcher and a Sense 4.0 theme, which oddly feels faster while being more customizable. I didn't care for the default Go Launcher theme it rubbed me wrong, probably the only part of Sense I still like is the icons and presentation of apps. Thinking about going to a rooted stock with custom kernel or a custom rom with custom kernel. I don't know, really confused right now
Dogan
Love the hardware, not loving the software.
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I lost my appreciation for sense as soon as I rooted and dove into CM7.
It came back a little bit for sense 4.0, but meh.
I thought I loved sense until I tried AOSP roms lol
Chad The Pathfinder said:
Wow prboy1969 those are pretty awesome! Is it possible to get the dock in the first pic on Sense 3.5 or 3.0?
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Sense 3.0 should be no issue. Sense 3.5 I have not tried yet.
jesuscash said:
I lost my appreciation for sense as soon as I rooted and dove into CM7.
It came back a little bit for sense 4.0, but meh.
I thought I loved sense until I tried AOSP roms lol
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i liked some of the features in sense but sense overall just plain sucks and especially with the reloads everytime you go back to the homescreen.
recently ive been addicted to the ice cream sandwich builds coming out (AOKP has been running the best so far for me, with a few minor bugs like calls not coming through (but thats what texting is for LOL))
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i liked some of the features in sense but sense overall just plain sucks and especially with the reloads everytime you go back to the homescreen.
recently ive been addicted to the ice cream sandwich builds coming out (AOKP has been running the best so far for me, with a few minor bugs like calls not coming through (but thats what texting is for LOL))
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That's why we have choices. So everyone can be happy . Myself I'm a Sense kinda guy, cause it only makes Sense :cyclops: . But that being said, I've come across quite a few very good non-Sense Roms.
The email, messaging, and people apps are what mainly keep me on Sense. The way I use them only works in Sense. If the AOSP versions worked similarly I'd likely be useing something else. They're a lot easier to port.
Sense seems fairly bloated to me. I love how native Android ICS and JB have evolved and become more smooth and streamlined. I recommend checking out the ICS custom ROMs on this board (I'm on kushdeck's pb21 build still). I would like to try out preludedrew's new Evervolv JB ROM, but I get stuck in a boot loop after installing it
TimeBomb006 said:
Sense seems fairly bloated to me. I love how native Android ICS and JB have evolved and become more smooth and streamlined. I recommend checking out the ICS custom ROMs on this board (I'm on kushdeck's pb21 build still). I would like to try out preludedrew's new Evervolv JB ROM, but I get stuck in a boot loop after installing it
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That is kind of where I think I was going before trying another modded out ROM. Think I just want to try vanilla with a fancy kernel. Some things that I know I like and would like to keep, WiMax (even though I rarely use it, no use paying for it if I can't use it), Keyboard lights as I work a night shift I inevitably have to hit up the phone and keyboard at night and the elusive landscape mode. Think I might be stuck on gingerbread because of this but I'm gonna look around.
Is App2sd a kernel level function or does the UI need to recognize it too?
Dogan
Teetering on the brink of slapping together his own ROM?
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Is App2sd a kernel level function or does the UI need to recognize it too?
Dogan
Teetering on the brink of slapping together his own ROM?
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A2SD has to do with the Kernel, as it determines the Ext. But it also usually has to baked into the Rom. Then enabled after you flash. But you can use DarkTremors A2SD Script to add and enable it on most Roms that it's not baked into.
About your Sig. I say go for it.
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