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[Q] Few questions on set up. (coming from nexus one)

Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)

Anybody?...

For one, the rom is so big because it's a sense rom. Track pad wake works out the gate. Theres no home replacement that you can use sense widgets with

Marine6680 said:
Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
Depends on your personal hardware. I run mine at 1.8 on the smaetass kernel with no problems, but some can't do that.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
Stocks (and widget), myfaves (and Widgets), twitter widget, flicker, and a few others.
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
It is huge compared to an aosp rom like was on the Nexus, but that's because of all the stuff added with HTC sense.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
No, sadly there isn't. The sense Widgets are so deeply integrated with the rest of the launcher that such is not possible. However, it is possible to find some Widgets that do similar things.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
That was on stock as well, and most custom roms will incorporate this highly popular feature.
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Well, the best thing I can say on this is to not expect it to be like aosp. That's the point of being sense, its unique in its look. It just wont always be the fastest on the block.
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
Not really sure how to answer this question, really. Grankin has a few good kernels for iced glacier that can bring the speed up to 1.7 Guzman, and the smartass governor built into dumfuq's kernel (built for cm, but has since been modded to be compatible with sense roms like iced) enables it to get better speed and battery life.
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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jmwils3 said:
Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.

Marine6680 said:
Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
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Yeah, but speaking as a user of said kernel (albeit on cm7), it's worth it.
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EDIT: also, I dont think I mentioned this previously, but the default setup for the cm6 kernel will break wi-fi on sense ROMs, so be sure to set up the wi-fi fix that he added today.

I am currently on ice glacier also but I really like eVil's Desire ROMs. there's a Z and HD flavor. they are more full on stock sense experience than iced which is a more/less clone of espresso.
I personally prefer the stock sense to espresso...there's more HTC Widgets and some other cool stuff. I also really like the trackpad unlock in addition to wake which is built in on those as well. the only thing I REALLY miss on those ROMs is the espresso dialer which has the built in VIP calls (allows a VIP contact to ring even with ringer / sound off).
I haven't tried gorillas DHD sense port yet but prob will in a couple days.
and before you ask - the difference between the Z and HD ROMs is Z has a landscape rotating home screen and larger fonts by default and HD doesnt have the homescreen rotation and has a smaller font. they're about identical as far as I can tell aside from that. I had no real problems on 0.2.x versions of Z and HD but eVil just released 0.3 and it seems a couple ppl are complaining of a quirk here and there..btw both of those eVil ROMs have a 1.49ghz kernel with built in smartass scaling which I really like.
I'm currently oc'ed to 1.2 max on iced 1.1.6 to try and maximize battery.
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EPIC and new file system

I rooted an epic with the new file system last night. Its pretty zippy. Any chance the CM7 nightlies will work on this phone soon. Works great on my EVO. Also can the EVO support file system?
Thank God for the download option (pressing one) or the phone would be at the bottom of the lake.
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I think I remember seeing where we need.the source code for.froyo for cm7. I.could be wrong though
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musclehead84 said:
I think I remember seeing where we need.the source code for.froyo for cm7. I.could be wrong though
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Cynagon tweeted the other day that noobles builds of cm6 and cm7 are not supported by cynagon him self or the cynagon team.
What was built for the evo will not work on the epic. It has to be ported and nooble if working on that
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Shame. Its great on evo. At least it an update that sprint will never get around to.
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Meh. In reality CM is just hyped for no reason. Sense ran faster on the Evo than CM. People assume CM is faster because of what? The fact that Sense is no longer there and Quadrant scores. Well...Quadrant scores can be manipulated and Sense always ran better. If ya want that whole CM experience, just get ADW EX. Thats basically what CM is...well..that is if you dont go into the CM settings and adjust anything. But if you just leave CM barebones, its just ADW EX. So hit up ADW EX or Launcher Pro. Both are in the market.

ms79723 said:
Meh. In reality CM is just hyped for no reason. Sense ran faster on the Evo than CM. People assume CM is faster because of what? The fact that Sense is no longer there and Quadrant scores. Well...Quadrant scores can be manipulated and Sense always ran better. If ya want that whole CM experience, just get ADW EX. Thats basically what CM is...well..that is if you dont go into the CM settings and adjust anything. But if you just leave CM barebones, its just ADW EX. So hit up ADW EX or Launcher Pro. Both are in the market.
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You sir are misinformed. Cynagon is what android should be. Its built from the aosp source. No manufactures ui. No carrier branding or bloatware. Its also slimmend down and tweaked.
Cynagon ran faster, better, and smother then any sense rom on my evo
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Why should I download something cyanogen himself don't want part of.. That sucks .. He won't help with us epic users
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dcowboys2184 said:
Why should I download something cyanogen himself don't want part of.. That sucks .. He won't help with us epic users
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Noob is a great dev and is building cynagon mod from cynagons source. so when its all said and done its cynagon. Its just built from someone else
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mysteryemotionz said:
You sir are misinformed. Cynagon is what android should be. Its built from the aosp source. No manufactures ui. No carrier branding or bloatware. Its also slimmend down and tweaked.
Cynagon ran faster, better, and smother then any sense rom on my evo
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I'm 100% positive it ran "faster" simply because it looked like it should because there wasn't any bloatware. Speaking of bloatware..bloatware as in apps...that's actually kind of a dumb way of blaming performance. I say dumb because an app is just an app...and whenever I checked, none of those apps constantly ran in the background aside from amazon mp3 which didnt cause poor performance because even without ending its process it all ran the same.
The rooted 3.70 rom is running real smooth and CM7 just runs just like ADW EX, matter of fact..CM's launcher is ADW, so of course it'll run pretty smooth. You can put ADW on the Meizu m9 rom and it'll run smooth..but I still dont think its really any smoother than Sense. 3G was better on Sense roms too. CM roms would have the 3G go to sleep and it would take forever for it to wake up...you could be in the browser and the page just hangs because the 3G isn't active. So in order to activate it, you had to open up another page and go to a different website. You even had to do that when downloading something from the market >.< That was not a problem with Sense.

ms79723 said:
I'm 100% positive it ran "faster" simply because it looked like it should because there wasn't any bloatware. Speaking of bloatware..bloatware as in apps...that's actually kind of a dumb way of blaming performance. I say dumb because an app is just an app...and whenever I checked, none of those apps constantly ran in the background aside from amazon mp3 which didnt cause poor performance because even without ending its process it all ran the same.
The rooted 3.70 rom is running real smooth and CM7 just runs just like ADW EX, matter of fact..CM's launcher is ADW, so of course it'll run pretty smooth. You can put ADW on the Meizu m9 rom and it'll run smooth..but I still dont think its really any smoother than Sense. 3G was better on Sense roms too. CM roms would have the 3G go to sleep and it would take forever for it to wake up...you could be in the browser and the page just hangs because the 3G isn't active. So in order to activate it, you had to open up another page and go to a different website. You even had to do that when downloading something from the market >.< That was not a problem with Sense.
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the reason cynagon uses adw is cause it looks like the stock aosp launcher and it runs smoother. The reason cm7 is slow and choppy is cause its not 100%. You need to remember the evo don't have gingerbread source. There's alot of hurdles to jump to get a updated os to work when that os hasn't been designed for that device. There basically building gingerbread for the evo from the ground up.
If you wanna compare apples to apples you need to speak about cm6 against sense based roms.
Amazon is not the only sprint bloatware that runs in the background. Grab os,monitor from the market and you'll see allot of sprint processors running in the background. Yes you can remove them from a sense rom but then your left with sense. Even if you use adw and remove the sense launcher sense is still there. Sense is hardcoded into other apps, framework, and .jar files. There is no way to remove sense from a sense based rom.
Some people like sense and everything it brings and others like pure aosp.
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mysteryemotionz said:
the reason cynagon uses adw is cause it looks like the stock aosp launcher and it runs smoother. The reason cm7 is slow and choppy is cause its not 100%. You need to remember the evo don't have gingerbread source. There's alot of hurdles to jump to get a updated os to work when that os hasn't been designed for that device. There basically building gingerbread for the evo from the ground up.
If you wanna compare apples to apples you need to speak about cm6 against sense based roms.
Amazon is not the only sprint bloatware that runs in the background. Grab os,monitor from the market and you'll see allot of sprint processors running in the background. Yes you can remove them from a sense rom but then your left with sense. Even if you use adw and remove the sense launcher sense is still there. Sense is hardcoded into other apps, framework, and .jar files. There is no way to remove sense from a sense based rom.
Some people like sense and everything it brings and others like pure aosp.
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CM6 and CM7 run just about the same...In my example you can switch those two out and my previous message still makes sense. And with those apps in the background do they really slow down performance? Actual, no, the only thing they would be guilty of is either A) preventing your phone from sleeping which will lead to B) poor battery life.
Sense rom + ADW EX launcher runs just the same as CM6 or CM7.
Just for kicks, Im going to go put on CM6, CM7, Sense and Sense + ADW EX...I feel the need to confirm that I am right.

ms79723 said:
CM6 and CM7 run just about the same...In my example you can switch those two out and my previous message still makes sense. And with those apps in the background do they really slow down performance? Actual, no, the only thing they would be guilty of is either A) preventing your phone from sleeping which will lead to B) poor battery life.
Sense rom + ADW EX launcher runs just the same as CM6 or CM7.
Just for kicks, Im going to go put on CM6, CM7, Sense and Sense + ADW EX...I feel the need to confirm that I am right.
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You do that but its not gonna prove anything. As i mentioned before some like sense and others like pure aosp. I for one will choose aosp over any manufacturers ui.
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mysteryemotionz said:
Cynagon tweeted the other day that noobles builds of cm6 and cm7 are not supported by cynagon him self or the cynagon team.
What was built for the evo will not work on the epic. It has to be ported and nooble if working on that
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Now I feel bad for noob. Id say he's making great progress and that explains a lot about the reason why certain things aren't working yet
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Now I feel bad for noob. Id say he's making great progress and that explains a lot about the reason why certain things aren't working yet
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I think the reason why the official cm guys won't support noob is because he isn't working from gpl source code so they can't until source code is officially released. I'm pretty sure that the evo froyo source code is now public domain, were as the epic is still not.
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bryanfritz1 said:
I think the reason why the official cm guys won't support noob is because he isn't working from gpl source code so they can't until source code is officially released. I'm pretty sure that the evo froyo source code is now public domain, were as the epic is still not.
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Yeah the evo had sauce since like a week after froyo dropped *which was like a month after the phone did*
Sammy needs to follow suitttttt
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ms79723 said:
CM6 and CM7 run just about the same...In my example you can switch those two out and my previous message still makes sense. And with those apps in the background do they really slow down performance? Actual, no, the only thing they would be guilty of is either A) preventing your phone from sleeping which will lead to B) poor battery life.
Sense rom + ADW EX launcher runs just the same as CM6 or CM7.
Just for kicks, Im going to go put on CM6, CM7, Sense and Sense + ADW EX...I feel the need to confirm that I am right.
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dude.... bad form, Why are you being pushy and arrogant about an opinion that everyone is entitled to. Why dont you stop trolling and go write a sense based ROM for your awesome Evo that gets all the cyanogen lovers back in your boat. At least that way you will have made a difference with your opinion instead of clogging up our forums with this relentless argumentative BS.

watermoore said:
dude.... bad form, Why are you being pushy and arrogant about an opinion that everyone is entitled to. Why dont you stop trolling and go write a sense based ROM for your awesome Evo that gets all the cyanogen lovers back in your boat. At least that way you will have made a difference with your opinion instead of clogging up our forums with this relentless argumentative BS.
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Have you yourself personally ran a sense rom for a month and then cyanogenmod for a month and then a sense rom again for a month? Have you ran the nightlies from 6.1 to 7? Have you ran MIUI? have you ran Sense 2.0? Please let me know if you have and let me know which one was smoother. If not, run all of those and try to tell me which one is smoother...their all the same (well...MIUI has an advantage. That rom just feels too good).
If you have, you'd know where I was coming from. If I believe that my opinion is right and I have some sort of proof for it, then Im going to go with it. Sure, thats annoying to others but what sense does it make for me to have the proof and evidence and just give in because thats the nice thing to do? Did you even read my first post in this thread? I actually contributed to this thread. I tacked on my opinion but I still contributed. Something that your message did not do. And you want to talk about clogging...

ms79723 said:
Have you yourself personally ran a sense rom for a month and then cyanogenmod for a month and then a sense rom again for a month? Have you ran the nightlies from 6.1 to 7? Have you ran MIUI? have you ran Sense 2.0? Please let me know if you have and let me know which one was smoother. If not, run all of those and try to tell me which one is smoother...their all the same (well...MIUI has an advantage. That rom just feels too good).
If you have, you'd know where I was coming from. If I believe that my opinion is right and I have some sort of proof for it, then Im going to go with it. Sure, thats annoying to others but what sense does it make for me to have the proof and evidence and just give in because thats the nice thing to do? Did you even read my first post in this thread? I actually contributed to this thread. I tacked on my opinion but I still contributed. Something that your message did not do. And you want to talk about clogging...
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I for one have done exactly what you said and I still choose cynagon over sense.
Fyi: if it wasn't for having a pure aosp rom the evo would have never got miui
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mysteryemotionz said:
I for one have done exactly what you said and I still choose cynagon over sense.
Fyi: if it wasn't for having a pure aosp rom the evo would have never got miui
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You right though (I'm going back to your message before this one if I can remember correctly). You prefer Cyanogenmod and I prefer Sense. To me it all comes down to UI, I just refuse to believe that one is smoother than the other, but thats just me. I mean, the 3.7 rom came a long way when compared to that garbage that was originally on the Evo. Now that Sense was just abysmal.
And yeah I'm aware of MIUI, its based on Cyanogenmod. But it uses the Launcher2 or w/e its called. I really like its messaging and music app. I miss those a lot. But the music app can be pushed to anything...unfortunately the messaging app cannot. But I think its messaging app was based off of the Droid X? I remember seeing a pic of the Droid X's messaging app on a TV show and it looked just like the MIUI one so I assume its interface is the same.

So... Samsung Epic 4G General or what?

Bonsai vs Truly Epic

Hey guys, im currently running bonsai rom. I've tried justcabout every other froyo rom and always reverted back to 2.1, hated all of the issues on them, and they felt laggy to me. Bonsai has been amazing, camera issues aside.
So, I've never actually tried truly epic rom, and people have some really good things to say about it in the development thread. Which one of the two do you prefer? Why?
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Tried them both but prefer midnights latest its really sweet

Isn't midnights themed though?
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afive720 said:
Isn't midnights themed though?
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No, I believe he includes a separate theme zip now. Midnight is based completely on Bonsai though with only a few tweaks like taking out touchwiz launcher so not really too different.
Truly Epic has a nice launcher, but I prefer Bonsai with ADW EX or launcherpro personally.

I have tried most, if not all of the Rom's and always revert back to Midnight Rom. His latest is just a base Rom with a folder of add ins you can install separate. I like it because it is minimal and appears to have the best battery life.
Just my opinion though and as we all know: Opinions are like A#$ holes we all have them and most of them stink.

I just like the midnight attitude...... ya get what ya need ya add what ya want and it all works good really good cant imagine the alleged upcoming update being better than this

I have been running truly epic 1.5. No issues yet. I do recommend the clean install I tried the other way and and the phone force closed everything like a batsh*t crazy maniac. But all in all nice Rom. Very snappy no issues yet. The only issue I had with bonzai was video recording...it was like it couldn't keep up with motion..haven't tried video on this yet I'll get back to ya on that one.
EDIT: Still very slight lag on video but much better.
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Turly Epic for a silky smooth experience!!!! Not a very popular rom here but over at android central its the most popular one and for good reason.

riceknight said:
No, I believe he includes a separate theme zip now. Midnight is based completely on Bonsai though with only a few tweaks like taking out touchwiz launcher so not really too different.
Truly Epic has a nice launcher, but I prefer Bonsai with ADW EX or launcherpro personally.
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Ya need to try Go Launcher EX it murders Launcher and Adw.Its faster has more fetures,lighter,looks better and has integrigated task killer.
I was a big fan of Launcher Pro but the dude is so slow with updates that it made me try GO Launcher and now I cant see myself using anything else.Devs should include it in their roms.

Wow I was just about to comment and say people should try Go Launcher Ex because its awesome...i felt the same way, I loved launcher pro but decided to try go launcher and Idk if I'm going to ever go back...the integrated task killer is pretty awesome I must say and it is much snappier.
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lviv73 said:
Ya need to try Go Launcher EX it murders Launcher and Adw.Its faster has more fetures,lighter,looks better and has integrigated task killer.
Trying Go Launcher EX as advised. Really liking it over Launcher Pro at the moment.
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tried truly epic,Facebook would force close and I didn't like the fact that stock calculator was replaced, but it was good. Went back to bonsai for now. I think that I am going to go back to 2.1 stock to get ota, just seems as if all roms are sort of buggy, but I know that all the Devs do an amazing job and work hard.
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They are all buggy because they are all based off the buggy DK28 release.
In all seriousness I'd recommend Bonsai... It's very snappy and relatively bug free. You may as well wait though.. all the 2.2 roms will be refreshed in a few days and likely be brand new machines with the EB13 heart.

Yea, but I liked 2.2 stuff and gingerbread theme. Aside fromcfew annoyances, I really liked custom 2.2 stuff. 2.1 stock is definitely more stable, went back to it for now for the ota. I'm probably going to install bonsai once it gets updated though, I really don't like that we will be getting Sprint id, hopefully bonsai wont have it.
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They are all buggy because they are all based off the buggy DK28 release.
In all seriousness I'd recommend Bonsai... It's very snappy and relatively bug free. You may as well wait though.. all the 2.2 roms will be refreshed in a few days and likely be brand new machines with the EB13 heart.
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Bonsai with Go Launcher and SetCPU
That's my combo and I love it.
Bonsai is already snappy, but with SetCPU I'm getting another 10% boost in my benchmark scores. Battery life is suffering, but by habit, I charge my phone at home, work and car, so I always have enough juice anyway.
Thanks for posting your opinions. I'm new to the scene and had the same dilemma on which roms to play around with.

Best Non-CM Gingerbread ROM?

As the title states looking for opinions on what non-CM Gingerbread ROMs are working best for other users. This also excludes ROMs based on CM. As much as Im not a Sense fan, Im at the point where I dont care if it is Sense or not. Im thinking of switching from CM7 mainly cause the GPS issue has finally gotten to me (ive tried all fixes and have GPS working but its so crappy compared to stock). Enough of that, time to move on. Welcome to opinions on some Gingerbread roms.

well i find the meXdroidMod meXperia remeX really awesome, though its cm nightly based, i think a good non cm would be the ginger-sense by gingervillian

I never was a Sense fan until I came across Virtuous. Best ROM for the G2 in my opinion. I'm always trying other ROMs just to keep up with what's out there, but I keep coming back to Virtuous as my daily driver. Everything just works with it, including GPS.

MIUI hands down. I love how fast and smooth it is, especially with pershoot's latest kernel.

miui for sure...
was gonna suggest ultimate droid. but its cm7 based. sooo.. miui. best rom IMHO

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MIUI hands down. I love how fast and smooth it is, especially with pershoot's latest kernel.
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Yea MIUI! My favorite. I think you will like UD( UltimateDroid) Its based on CM but I think its a little bit better but that's just me of course.
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ultimate droid 3.3 is the best i've come across thus far.

I wouldn't recommend MIUI, it's boring.
mexdroid and pyromod are great but are CM based yet I don't experience GPS issues.
non CM7 based I recommend this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
it's sense but one of the best sense roms out there.

Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass. I really want to try the miui, but there are like five different ones in rom manager and two or three on the forum, no idea which is most up to date, supported the most, or used by the most people. Is miui supposed to be iphone clone?
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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slider6000 said:
ultimate droid 3.3 is the best i've come across thus far.
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xsteven77x said:
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass. I really want to try the miui, but there are like five different ones in rom manager and two or three on the forum, no idea which is most up to date, supported the most, or used by the most people. Is miui supposed to be iphone clone?
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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yup that's what it's supposed to be with a little bit of android.

Thugnificent69 said:
I wouldn't recommend MIUI, it's boring.
mexdroid and pyromod are great but are CM based yet I don't experience GPS issues.
non CM7 based I recommend this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
it's sense but one of the best sense roms out there.
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Aha... we were just saying. It matters how you like a rom.I like Miui, haven't been in any other rom for a long time.
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is there any rom that has the tweeks from Ultimatedroid but gingersense based?

Use gingervillian 1.5 its stock with cm7 settings which you can use optional if you want.
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xsteven77x said:
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass.
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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Some issues with ultimatedroid(for g2) are thus follows:
~Gps is still borked.
~After you select one alternate theme no other one will install, same goes for boot animation though in the case of boot animations once you have selected an alternate you cannot change it.
~Font changes do not work.
~Applications like to uninstall themselves.
UD "seems" snappy but it is entirely due to sped up render effects. I pulled just as fast & faster quadrant scores running CM6.1.1 with pershoots latest kernel.
Speed is in the eye of the beholder people. So far virtually ever rom I've tried that is based on CM7 code has some sort of "gotta pray to machine gods" type element to get GPS going. Virtuous is laggy even with overclocking past 1ghz and if you don't dig SenseUI you're up a creek. The only major rom I have yet to try is MIUI but I really don't dig iphone style integration so I guess I'm just going to be stuck on CM6.1.1 till the official Gingerbread release for the g2 comes out.

astriaos said:
Some issues with ultimatedroid(for g2) are thus follows:
~Gps is still borked.
~After you select one alternate theme no other one will install, same goes for boot animation though in the case of boot animations once you have selected an alternate you cannot change it.
~Font changes do not work.
~Applications like to uninstall themselves.
UD "seems" snappy but it is entirely due to sped up render effects. I pulled just as fast & faster quadrant scores running CM6.1.1 with pershoots latest kernel.
Speed is in the eye of the beholder people. So far virtually ever rom I've tried that is based on CM7 code has some sort of "gotta pray to machine gods" type element to get GPS going. Virtuous is laggy even with overclocking past 1ghz and if you don't dig SenseUI you're up a creek. The only major rom I have yet to try is MIUI but I really don't dig iphone style integration so I guess I'm just going to be stuck on CM6.1.1 till the official Gingerbread release for the g2 comes out.
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I think the gps varies partly on hardware also, because I have never had any of the aforementioned problems on UD (given I never tried to change the font), and gps worked fine. As in accuracy three meters and under and no drifting. Gps works for me on all these roms that people say it is broke on when the OP states the technically it is working correctly. Coming from a vibrant before I have seen how wildly gps hardware quality can vary with a given model, I do believe people when they say it doesn't work for them but there are also people who never expierience these problems.
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you can use miui with a different launcher then its not really all that iphone'ish, i have used miui as my rom for most the time i have had my phone and it runs grate i used it as i love the luncher others seem to swear by it with luncher pro or adw though.
atm i am trying to get over my app drawer hate so i can try some more roms out there, sense seems to work best with the phone seen as it has been made for the keybaord or so i have have found anyway.
is there any luncher/mod out there that will remove an app form the drawer when its on a homepage?

niai_mack said:
you can use miui with a different launcher then its not really all that iphone'ish, i have used miui as my rom for most the time i have had my phone and it runs grate i used it as i love the luncher others seem to swear by it with luncher pro or adw though.
atm i am trying to get over my app drawer hate so i can try some more roms out there, sense seems to work best with the phone seen as it has been made for the keybaord or so i have have found anyway.
is there any luncher/mod out there that will remove an app form the drawer when its on a homepage?
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Launcher pro and adw have to option to hide apps in the app drawer... I'm like 98% positive... I think adw is called categories..
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I was using GingerVillain for months because my GPS wouldn't run on my old radio with CM7. Once i upgraded my radio I used CM7. GingerVillain was great considering it was would before CM7 but did have some issues with randomly restarting.

I don't believe the xboarders rom is CM based. It's just straight up, no bs, stock gingerbread.

Favorite ROMS

I don't know about u guys but mine is sense 2.1/3.0 cuz it has a mix of things and its smooth ! (Mikg) wats urs?
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I have to say, I've grown to enjoy what Sense 3.5 has to offer. I fully intend the remainder of my phones on contract life to be spent with either Nils Business GingerSense 3.5 or (my currently installed rom) Warm TwoPointThree. I missed out on Warm TwoPointTwo and all it's heyday so I'm fully enjoying my first ever run with the Warm series.
Side note, I think my next android phone will spend its life on AOSP either because:
A) it's a Nexus device
B) I rooted/installed an AOSP rom

My current favs are Stock+/Inc-Deck GB/OMGB
I never have had a good experience with sense 3.0+ roms, too slow and I dont want to overclock although some of the roms are built really well. AOSP is really nice on our old hardware and always runs clean.

SlimSnoopOS said:
I have to say, I've grown to enjoy what Sense 3.5 has to offer. I fully intend the remainder of my phones on contract life to be spent with either Nils Business GingerSense 3.5 or (my currently installed rom) Warm TwoPointThree. I missed out on Warm TwoPointTwo and all it's heyday so I'm fully enjoying my first ever run with the Warm series.
Side note, I think my next android phone will spend its life on AOSP either because:
A) it's a Nexus device
B) I rooted/installed an AOSP rom
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Yea sense 3.5 is REALLY great but also is REALLY laggy but overall I find it to be one if the best too.
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bukithd said:
My current favs are Stock+/In-Deck GB/OMGB
I never have had a good experience with sense 3.0+ roms, too slow and I dont want to overclock although some of the roms are built really well. AOSP is really nice on our old hardware and always runs clean.
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I agree
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I'm on Inc-Deck-GB myself, I guess that probably answers the question.
with special props to SkyRaider 4.+... that was the best sense ROM. I would still use it if it had ever got updated to Gingerbread.

I've never tried MikG, Downloading and flashing tonight ^.^ hows the battery life? What kernel do you use etc? My personal fav has always been CM7

Cm7 loyalist no doubt. It gives the best performance, support, and customization of any rom. When I get a new phone, ill be shopping on the base of roms, and cm7 support is a must.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

watt9493 said:
Cm7 loyalist no doubt. It gives the best performance, support, and customization of any rom. When I get a new phone, ill be shopping on the base of roms, and cm7 support is a must.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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same here, love CM7. With heavy customization from android kitchen and other apps I'm loving my phone and don't have any urge to try other ROMs (maybe a bad thing?)
Sense always gave my phone a little more bloat, no matter how small it was, I'm still all for faster and leaner so that's why I've been stuck to CM7.

Just loaded up MikG and its booted, but its at the mikmikmik wallpaper, and no unlock screen, i can see the battery, time 3g and signal bar though..

Fergusonfox7 said:
Just loaded up MikG and its booted, but its at the mikmikmik wallpaper, and no unlock screen, i can see the battery, time 3g and signal bar though..
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Same happened to me on that rom a few times. I got it booted on my first flash but after that, none.
If you want a fun rom to play around with I suggest anyone of the super stock AOSP roms i.e. OMGB/Bugless Beast. What better way to customize than to start with the bare bones.

MIUI with my WP7 customizations runs like a boss. I underclock to 245/128 when I listen to music only and it runs as maybe a 700 MHz Sense rom would, while getting maybe days of battery.

I'm using Stock Plus with a bunch of themes I blended together. My favorite ROM of all time was WarmZ though. What I would give to have it in Gingerbread form... its what's in my sig actually.

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Just loaded up MikG and its booted, but its at the mikmikmik wallpaper, and no unlock screen, i can see the battery, time 3g and signal bar though..
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U format boot and system ?
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Fergusonfox7 said:
I've never tried MikG, Downloading and flashing tonight ^.^ hows the battery life? What kernel do you use etc? My personal fav has always been CM7
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Battery life isn't the best but its still great I use tinys latest kernel 12/31
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Redemption 2.2 my battery life was beast haha froyo. Bugless/Synergy if it didn't time bomb/cm7
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ended up with MIUI
My first flash in the rooting game was McTwist. I enjoyed it but wanted to try something else. I switched to Nils Business GingerSense with sense 3.0 and loved his design and the smoothness. Something happened where after a few weeks my phone became unstable tho. Could have been my kernel or my phone or even the charger I was using since apps crashed when plugged in. I then decided to get away from sense roms and tried MIUI 1.12.9. It's smooth and doesn't seem to have that sense bloat. I flashed the latest incredikernel and have been loving the ROM since. It has custom themes which is great for me. I also find myself using the stock dialer,SMS, and camera instead of searching for an after market app. The only thing I didn't like was the homescreens and the launcher so I just use launcherpro and everything looks good.
So as a recap:
McTwist was good
Nils Business GingerSense was great but caused phone problems for me
Sticking with MIUI for now

Alton (Halo 2) said:
Yea sense 3.5 is REALLY great but also is REALLY laggy but overall I find it to be one if the best too.
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I can see how the lag puts people off from Sense 3.5. I haven't run into the issue cuz I use ADW Ex (proudly purchased for .10 cents awhile back) and I just go about my business.

SlimSnoopOS said:
I can see how the lag puts people off from Sense 3.5. I haven't run into the issue cuz I use ADW Ex (proudly purchased for .10 cents awhile back) and I just go about my business.
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Yea I dont mind the lag but I just need to flash a sense 2.1/3.0 once in a while
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Yea I dont mind the lag but I just need to flash a sense 2.1/3.0 once in a while
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I believe it. Probably my personal favorite moment to be a member of XDA was when we first had the GingerSense leak last May. Development just shot through the roof for Sense 2.1+ roms. Sense 2.1 is the sweet spot.