[Q] Few questions on set up. (coming from nexus one) - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)

Anybody?...

For one, the rom is so big because it's a sense rom. Track pad wake works out the gate. Theres no home replacement that you can use sense widgets with

Marine6680 said:
Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
Depends on your personal hardware. I run mine at 1.8 on the smaetass kernel with no problems, but some can't do that.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
Stocks (and widget), myfaves (and Widgets), twitter widget, flicker, and a few others.
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
It is huge compared to an aosp rom like was on the Nexus, but that's because of all the stuff added with HTC sense.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
No, sadly there isn't. The sense Widgets are so deeply integrated with the rest of the launcher that such is not possible. However, it is possible to find some Widgets that do similar things.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
That was on stock as well, and most custom roms will incorporate this highly popular feature.
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Well, the best thing I can say on this is to not expect it to be like aosp. That's the point of being sense, its unique in its look. It just wont always be the fastest on the block.
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
Not really sure how to answer this question, really. Grankin has a few good kernels for iced glacier that can bring the speed up to 1.7 Guzman, and the smartass governor built into dumfuq's kernel (built for cm, but has since been modded to be compatible with sense roms like iced) enables it to get better speed and battery life.
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.

Marine6680 said:
Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
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Yeah, but speaking as a user of said kernel (albeit on cm7), it's worth it.
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EDIT: also, I dont think I mentioned this previously, but the default setup for the cm6 kernel will break wi-fi on sense ROMs, so be sure to set up the wi-fi fix that he added today.

I am currently on ice glacier also but I really like eVil's Desire ROMs. there's a Z and HD flavor. they are more full on stock sense experience than iced which is a more/less clone of espresso.
I personally prefer the stock sense to espresso...there's more HTC Widgets and some other cool stuff. I also really like the trackpad unlock in addition to wake which is built in on those as well. the only thing I REALLY miss on those ROMs is the espresso dialer which has the built in VIP calls (allows a VIP contact to ring even with ringer / sound off).
I haven't tried gorillas DHD sense port yet but prob will in a couple days.
and before you ask - the difference between the Z and HD ROMs is Z has a landscape rotating home screen and larger fonts by default and HD doesnt have the homescreen rotation and has a smaller font. they're about identical as far as I can tell aside from that. I had no real problems on 0.2.x versions of Z and HD but eVil just released 0.3 and it seems a couple ppl are complaining of a quirk here and there..btw both of those eVil ROMs have a 1.49ghz kernel with built in smartass scaling which I really like.
I'm currently oc'ed to 1.2 max on iced 1.1.6 to try and maximize battery.
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[Q] What is the smoothest, trouble free......

Custom ROM for the Desire Z Bell NAM phone? Please post you opinions if you have used a custom ROM with the Bell Desire Z and have had a good or bad experience. I ask this because the Bell and C2 threads are intertwined for the most part but there has to be subtle and not so subtle differences due to carriers, services, etc.
Most of the customs ROMs are built around T-Mobile G2 platform.........sooo any recomends for the Bell platform specifically? I read a whole bunch but the ROM threads are seriously long, lol, and I may have missed a few things that may be missing for specific providers.
Use the latest Virtuous ROM and kernel. They run flawlessly on my Desire Z from Bell (on the Rogers network). I use the Sense version for the social phonebook functionality and other functions. The Vanilla version is great if you want stock Android, but you miss the awesome Sense widgets which I believe creates an amazing Android experience.
I'm currently running CM 6.1.1 on a Bell DZ (although i'm unlocked and on Telus) and haven't had any issues. GPS works, WiFi works, haven't tried Bluetooth yet however. Everything runs smoothly and I got a cool new boot animation as well
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Use the latest Virtuous ROM and kernel. They run flawlessly on my Desire Z from Bell (on the Rogers network). I use the Sense version for the social phonebook functionality and other functions. The Vanilla version is great if you want stock Android, but you miss the awesome Sense widgets which I believe creates an amazing Android experience.
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Yes. I second this. It runs very well "out of the box" and the latest (0.9.0) version the "default" (not "advanced") flavour is comfortably overclocked to ~1GHz when running tasks and underclocked when screen is off so it has great battery life too.
I've been using it as my daily driver. I, too, like the Sense integration of social networks and contacts. This is a really great communications device with this ROM.
MIUI , no questions
I've used Virtuous and it is one of the best I've tried. It doesn't have many new things, since the DZ already has Sense, but it's still a really nice ROM.
From my experiences, cm 6.1.1, virtuous 0.9.0 and MIUI are all reliable enough to use daily, and dangit! you couldn't ask for 3 more diverse choices.
Give each one a try, set them up how ya like em, do nandroids of each, then restore a different one every couple of days and just settle into one.
I prefer Virtuous because I personally dig Sense...But MIUI with laucher pro is sick and slick. Then again, CM6 has to be the most popular custom ROM out there...for good reason!
I guess you'll just have to try em all!
Oh yeah, I used gingervillain for a day. Think it has a little bit of work before it's a daily rom, but yeah, that'll be great when cm7/gingervillain get all sorted out.
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Thanks guys.....will give the Virtuous first try.
I've used stock, the Euro WWE, CM6, Virtuous 0.8.1, MIUI, and CM7 nightly #11.
My feelings towards them all:
Stock - Overloaded with crap. Slow. Takes forever to boot (excluding the fast boot, ie Sleep mode).
Euro WWE - Same as stock w/o the extra apps
CM6 - I did not like this AT ALL. It also ate my battery. Cool boot video though.
Virtuous 0.8.1 - I liked this one quite a bit but there was an annoying bug with the trackball wake and I was almost never being notified of new emails. I used this on 3 desire z's with the same results. I recommend Virtuous if you are into Sense. It's not too different than stock, though.
MIUI - This one opened my eyes and I really wanted to stick with it, but it had a ton of issues for me. The lockscreen kept disappearing and Wifi would not stay on after reboots. The trackball wake option would not turn off after turning it on the first time. Things like that made me weary of this ROM. I tried an early version and also a later one from the beginning of Jan. I don't see anyone else complaining of those specific issues, though, so it may have just been me.
CM7 nightly #11 - This one is my new favorite by far. I really like gingerbread and this ROM is very lean and mean. Between trying MIUI and CM7 I have ditched Sense completely. It's so much more of a 'cleaner', 'pure' experience without Sense. There's less clutter, things just seem simpler, there's less crap that I don't use (browsing facebook stuff through contact list, etc.) The stock dialer is so much better since the contact list is just on another tab, instead of another app completely, and it has a favorite contacts tab (which also automatically adds frequently called people to the list).
I would definitely recommend trying a non-sense based ROM such as MIUI or CM7. They both have better dialers, contact lists, and SMS apps (the HTC one has bugs). They are both leaner and simpler. HTC menus are packed with way too many options, even just adding items to homescreens is overkill. There are some nice things such as the way you set the time on alarms in Sense, and the HTC hub (some nice ringtone sets in there), but not I don't miss much else. CM7 and MIUI both come with a lot of great rings as well. One of the things I liked most about Sense (the 'people' app) is now one of the things I dislike the most. I miss the Sense camera a lot, I am hoping someone can port that over to non-sense ROMs eventually. However the stock Gallery app is much better than the HTC gallery. Another reason not to use Sense is because certain things such as bluetooth are slightly crippled (can't use Wii-mote), and Samba wifi sharing has issues on sense too. Who knows what else. I found HTC sense syncing also brought my phone to a crawl at least once each day.
Hope that helps you in your journey!
I use a DZ on Bell and I would recommend updating the radio to the latest version as I had constant connection problems with reception for calling/data after using custom roms.
I'm currently using GingerVillian and its working great, very smooth and no lag. No major issues so far and I haven't had any fc's. The only issue so far is that I don't get voicemail notifications (not sure if its the rom or Bell). Also, keep in mind that this rom does not have Sense (I like sense, but I'm willing to use a rom without it so I can try out Gingerbread).
RiTZiE
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Virtuous 0.9.0 works great with me. A lot of issues cleaned up since 0.8 Modified stock kernel is plenty fast and has no bugs. Everything just works. If you want to OC, use the virtuous kernels; I noticed a few bugs with the other.
In my personal opinion MIUI was great, but I found it slower and less consistent than virtuous.
Gingervillain was also really nice.
Last time I used a cm7 nightly, it was obvious that it was still a work in progress...
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Im running gingervillain 1.5 on my NAM and I absolutely love it. Its smooth, no lag, pretty much perfectly stable.
Currently testing the Virtuous 0.9.0 Sense ROM with the advanced kernel and quite happy with it so far, 3 days now no issues at all. Stable and smooth.
Will back up in a few days and test the MIUI, Cryo and Ginger as well, may as well........
Tried out the GingerVillian 1.5 & wow!!! Really smooth ROM & works perfectly with NAM Bell! Will keep this baby for a while!
cmccollough said:
Im running gingervillain 1.5 on my NAM and I absolutely love it. Its smooth, no lag, pretty much perfectly stable.
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HTC Vision Baby
Still using GV 1.5 and will not change it for quite a bit. Every thing works beautifully with Bell.
HTC Vision Baby
Hell yea it is lol. Can't wait til 2.0 comes out that thing is gonna be vicious..
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What's the difference? CM7 and Warm2.2 aside from one being sense and the other AOSP

Okay so I have been thinking about this for awhile now and either I'm missing something or there is no substantial differences.
I was recently on Myns 2.2 RLS 5 and in my waiting time to RLS 6 I decided to try out the lastest nightly of CM7. Funny thing is, I was running ADW launcher which is also the stock launcher in CM7. I came to the conclusion that there really aren't too many differences between CM7 and Warm 2.2 or any sense ROM for that matter.
CM7/AOSP:
More customization
Warm2.2/Sense:
Full functionality of the phone with nothing not working
Sense launcher capabilities
A few other minor capabilities
I really, really cannot figure out the difference in the 2 at all aside from one being sense and the other being AOSP.
Potentially, I could use ADW launcher on both of them and they would look exactly the same and really the only differences would be that Sense would have full functionality of its features and CM7 would have more available customizations.
I MUST be missing something here. I have never really used an AOSP Rom as my daily driver so I can't say anything about the battery life or the speed and performance, but is this where the major differences in the two types of ROMS are?
Please no flaming here guys, I'm just looking at this in the simplest way possible.
Not only is there the Sense vs AOSP difference (which is big in my opinion, regardless of which you prefer), but you're also talking about two different versions of Android. CM7 is Gingerbread, and Warm 2.2 is Froyo. They're both Android, but other than that they're completely different.
Theres lots of little things some of which you don't notice if you are using adw, like senses widgets(paid launcher pro comes closest to replacing these).
Mainly the dialer, email, htc twitter app, music app, lockscreen, calculator, camera, calender, Bluetooth, Facebook integration etc. It's mostly apps with some os stuff like the Bluetooth on CM can use a wiimote.
I wish HTC would let us use thier apps on asop. HTC's dialer and email are what made it really hard for me to switch.
Before I get told about dialer one, I use it and its fine it's more the in call screen that pisses me off. I have to enter 16-24 strings of numbers about 15 times a day and having the number pad on the top is just plain stupid.
code. the code is way different on the entire thing, aosp versus sense. so if you are going to use adw anyways, i'd definetally go with cm7 to conserve battery and performance.
edit: wow didnt even realize i'm over 1000 posts. just kind of let that slip by. well, you get my 1002.
This is what I was aiming for. I like the functionality of adw launcher and was wondering where I would see the best results with it. Everything seems so much crisper in sense like the Facebook integration and dialer just like he said so it will be a hard change for me to make. Ilk try it out until rls 6 comes out. Then I'm going to have to try out calkulins and mikfroyo because Ive heard a lot of good things about them.
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All I can say is try them all and see what you like best. I have tried almost every Rom for the Evo and I stick with CM. The reason being is I don't like HTC Sense and use ADW on it anyway, so why not use an AOSP Rom and that way it won't kill my battery to have ADW because HTC Sense still runs in the background even if you are using a home replacement app. Really I love the smoothness and quickness of AOSP and I love that team CM has coded a fully functional AOSP, built from the ground up, for just about every device out right now. Unbelievable! Anyway, back to my point. Try multiple Rom's and give them each a few days so that you get to use all the functions you normally use with them and decide which one you like best. This is what I did, but I was already a little biased toward CM because that's what I used on my MyTouch and loved then and still love it now. I don't hate on Sense because I feel that HTC did a nice job and made a very functional version of android which works well with their devices, but for me it is CM7 all the way.
PS. I still flash new versions of some of the Sense Rom's that I liked every once in a while to see if they will pull me away from CM, but I always go back.
#1 main feature on CM7 that beats the competition: Screen on/off animations! =)
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Agreed...very awesome lol. Even caught my non tech savvy girl friends eye!
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Which ROM?

Hi all,
Brief Intro:
My name is Mordy, I go by MordyT online (used to be active at ppcgeeks), long time PPC user (got my first device in 03, running winmo), been through almost every device HTC has made since then, last one being a TP2. Never left a device locked if at all possible, always running custom ROMS, a few times cooking them myself.
Then, last year, the EvO came out. Made the switch from the TP2 to the EvO and I was happy. After 7 years of fighting WM, I didn't have to cook a custom ROM, I didn't have to reset, etc. I rooted, flashed a few ROMS, but in the end always came back to stock ROM with mods. Wasn't too bad, not bloated, I kinda like sense, and I could always use a different launcher, etc.
Few days ago the account holder made the decision to go to TMo. Close person to them is a rep, so they got commission, Account Holder got a good deal, you know how it goes.
I said, sure, since my EvO pulls a whooping 87 kbps in Milwaukee WI area, doesn't TMo have hspda+ here? Picked up a MT4G, rooted it about 5 minutes ago using this this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996, ran a speed test and got 26 mbps down (SS attached), very nice.
But boy did TMo f up the stock ROM. So much crap in it. So I said, no problem, where is CM6? Uh, no CM6...
What I want is a stock Froyo Experience. No, not GB, Froyo. Ok, I would roll with GB if it was stable, but CM7 is not declared stable yet. So, that brings me to the question in the title...
Which STABLE ROM has as close to stock Froyo or GB? Thanks!
there is a CM6 for our devices it is at the top of page 2 in the Development section... here is the link if you like Sense but don't like the TMO Espresso UI overlay (personally I don't like it either but have come to love real/pure Sense) there are a couple of very nice ports of the Desire HD and the Desire Z. both of them are very nice pure Sense ports only "real difference is the D-HD doesn't have Landscape rotation for home screen and the D-Z does. Both of eVil D's Desire ports are very clean and smooth running, but if you're looking for one with a few themes to choose from Gr8Gorilla's GorrillaSens DHD is also very smooth running. all 3 of the Sense ports are very stable, I can't comment on CM6/7 because I haven't ran them... with as quick and strong as this device is I look at it this way I paid for a powerful device that was running Sense if I wanted AOSP I would have gotten the G2
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there is a CM6 for our devices it is at the top of page 2 in the Development section... here is the link if you like Sense but don't like the TMO Espresso UI overlay (personally I don't like it either but have come to love real/pure Sense) there are a couple of very nice ports of the Desire HD and the Desire Z. both of them are very nice pure Sense ports only "real difference is the D-HD doesn't have Landscape rotation for home screen and the D-Z does. Both of eVil D's Desire ports are very clean and smooth running, but if you're looking for one with a few themes to choose from Gr8Gorilla's GorrillaSens DHD is also very smooth running. all 3 of the Sense ports are very stable, I can't comment on CM6/7 because I haven't ran them... with as quick and strong as this device is I look at it this way I paid for a powerful device that was running Sense if I wanted AOSP I would have gotten the G2
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I saw that thread, but there is no download link that leads to a ROM...
I was looking into the DesireZ and HD port, and pure sense is ok, but I really want to leave it behind.... would you recommend one over the other? What major bugs are there in the ports if any?
Thanks for your reply btw.
There's a CM 6 rom on TeamDouche's mirror
Here the link
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
CM6 is pretty dead at this point though, no real development is done on it as far as I can tell. CM7 on the other hand is actively worked on and is better performing/looking in my opinion.
Sorry, I can't be of any help with Sense roms, never ran any. I did venture into Iced Glacier land and it was very good compared to stock in terms of bloatware but I still couldn't deal with HTC's crap.
Good luck and congrats on getting MT4G, you won't regret it.
MordyT said:
I saw that thread, but there is no download link that leads to a ROM...
I was looking into the DesireZ and HD port, and pure sense is ok, but I really want to leave it behind.... would you recommend one over the other? What major bugs are there in the ports if any?
Thanks for your reply btw.
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having ran eVil D's Desire-HD and Desire-Z ports and the Gr8Gorilla's Desire-HD, personally I prefer the D-HD ports. they are both great I personally didn't run into any major issues with either one. eVil D's does use a newer build base than Gorilla's, so for me it's really comes down to when I want just straight Sense without any theme's I use eVil's when I wanna run a theme the guys here have done I run Gorilla's. If you want pure Sense without any of the TMO Espresso BS then you can't go wrong with either of these ports
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There's a CM 6 rom on TeamDouche's mirror
Here the link
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
CM6 is pretty dead at this point though, no real development is done on it as far as I can tell. CM7 on the other hand is actively worked on and is better performing/looking in my opinion.
Sorry, I can't be of any help with Sense roms, never ran any. I did venture into Iced Glacier land and it was very good compared to stock in terms of bloatware but I still couldn't deal with HTC's crap.
Good luck and congrats on getting MT4G, you won't regret it.
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Thanks for the link. Never though of checking the mirrors, though once cm pulled it, they pulled it form everywhere.
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having ran eVil D's Desire-HD and Desire-Z ports and the Gr8Gorilla's Desire-HD, personally I prefer the D-HD ports. they are both great I personally didn't run into any major issues with either one. eVil D's does use a newer build base than Gorilla's, so for me it's really comes down to when I want just straight Sense without any theme's I use eVil's when I wanna run a theme the guys here have done I run Gorilla's. If you want pure Sense without any of the TMO Espresso BS then you can't go wrong with either of these ports
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Looks like eVil DHD is going to be my main sense ROM. Thanks for your help.
MordyT said:
Looks like eVil DHD is going to be my main sense ROM. Thanks for your help.
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Good choice. I've been running it now for quite a while...it's excellent.
Well, flashed it, it runs very nice, thanks all for your help.
P.S. Any recommended kernels? Battery life would be the only reason to switch. (and yes, I could underclock, I know...)
the OC kernel that eVil D put in the ROM is very nice and stable (I believe it goes up to 1497MHz) also the kernel that Faux123 has been working on is very nice (goes up to 1.84GHz)
I know Faux's has the Smartass governor in it, off the top of my head I can't remember if eVil D's does or not. also Faux's newest version has the latest updates/upgrades from HTC for "Updated GPIO drivers, Updated LED Driver, Updated Wifi Driver, Updated Touch Screen Driver, Updated Sound Driver and Updated DMA engine" he pulled them from the Kernel for the EVO Shift 4G
edit: I have been running his version 0.6 all day and it's been like silk and the battery seems to be holding well (but I also run Juice defender which helps some)
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the OC kernel that eVil D put in the ROM is very nice and stable (I believe it goes up to 1497MHz) also the kernel that Faux123 has been working on is very nice (goes up to 1.84GHz)
I know Faux's has the Smartass governor in it, off the top of my head I can't remember if eVil D's does or not. also Faux's newest version has the latest updates/upgrades from HTC for "Updated GPIO drivers, Updated LED Driver, Updated Wifi Driver, Updated Touch Screen Driver, Updated Sound Driver and Updated DMA engine" he pulled them from the Kernel for the EVO Shift 4G
edit: I have been running his version 0.6 all day and it's been like silk and the battery seems to be holding well (but I also run Juice defender which helps some)
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Sorry it took me so long to to get back to you.
The rom doesn't come come with the kernal, it has to be flashed separately, right?
As for smartass, it needs setcpu, right?
MordyT said:
Sorry it took me so long to to get back to you.
The rom doesn't come come with the kernal, it has to be flashed separately, right?
As for smartass, it needs setcpu, right?
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No, evilD HD, comes with OC kernel, just faux123 kernel has all the latest patch and updates.
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like epsix said, eVild D's ROM does come with the kernel "pre-installed", if I remember correctly eVil D's is preset to "on demand". I know faux's is preset to "smartass". but yes to change governor you need SetCPU or it's equivalent. you can get SetCPU free from the dev here on xda, this what I originally did but ended up getting the paid version from the market (no difference in the app just wanted to support the dev for future updates). yes there are other "free" cpu tuners in the market but the UI is much cleaner on SetCPU and I like the different colour themes.
Thanks guys!
1 last question ( I know, I should should just nandroid and flash it) but what is the major differances between evil HF and Iced Glacier?
evil's is a true sense rom...iced glacier is a espresso sense (what came on phone)
I-G is basically just the stock ROM with most of the demo-ware pulled out and the ROM smoothed out/cleaned up.
The Desire HD ports are true Sense without any of the TMO overlay at all and it has (not just in the ROM but downloadable from HTC) several more widgets and themes/skins that TMO pull out to put on the Espresso overlay, that and all the nice skins they have made for the Desire HD will work (like the theme I am running right now is a very nice blend of Gingerbread and Honeycomb). over all the layout of the ROM just seems more user friendly and clean (I really like the "personalize" soft-key right there on the home-screen)
Gotcha. I defiantly don't want the iced rom, whole reason I flashed to HD was to get away from the messed up sense TMo thought was in...
Thanks for all!
I also enjoy the personalize found on the HD ROM, like the Metal Skin. I somehow manage to download a skin that is already on the device and now I have two of them. Any ideas as to delete it?

What ROM are you currently using?

This thread is pretty self-explanatory. I just thought I'd create it to see what other people besides me were using and why. Anyway, I don't know why I haven't seen any other thread like this, although I have a feeling someone's going to come and egg my house for this for some reason.
Right now I'm using faux123's AOSP Gingerbread ROM just because I like the speed and fluidity of AOSP.
Im Using UD. Its a pretty great rom but im getting tired of gingerbread and its little flaws for our mytouchs. Like the ffc for video chat being upside down and the lack of apps able to run properly
Everything? Right now RG 1.6. In about an hour probably fauxes AOSP to try to fix some stuff... (of mine that's broken.... not fauxs.. don't freak out).
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Cm7 nb#58 with stock cm kernel. Having no issues on this build.
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I've tried most of them, but always find my self coming back to CM7 (7.0.2 currently). I want so badly to run Faux's ASOP, but he stripped out the notification bar power widgets... and I am not sure I can live without them!
Currently using CM 7.0.2
CM7.0.2
I want to love the cm7 releases and they do work well but battery life seems to be much shorter than it is when using RoyalGinger. Anyone else have the same experience?
Running eViL's 4G-HD DesireHD port. I found out that when it comes to usability, pure Android is lacking A LOT compared to Sense (specifically - contacts/dialer, Exchange mail, browser), I'm tired of Gingerbread quirks, and I don't like the T-Mo Sense skin too much, so I'm running the pure Sense version.
As of a few days ago, running cm7 latest "stable" build. It's the first post-stock rom I've run, and I love it! So far very happy with the seemingly faster smoother experience, and battery so far seems much better than stock. I might get around to trying Royal's as I hear it's even faster and better with battery, but I'm wary of constant flashing lol, I just want a solid steady rom to use as my daily, and so far cm7 running LPP over it has made me happy
Jack_R1 said:
Running eViL's 4G-HD DesireHD port. I found out that when it comes to usability, pure Android is lacking A LOT compared to Sense (specifically - contacts/dialer, Exchange mail, browser), I'm tired of Gingerbread quirks, and I don't like the T-Mo Sense skin too much, so I'm running the pure Sense version.
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I felt the same way until trying Launcher Plus Pro (LPP) - no it's not Sense, but offers many similar sense-like widgets that in my opinion actually work BETTER than their sense counterparts, i.e. the "Friends" LPP widget is SO much faster than Friendstream, and serves the same function, and LPP's calendar widget is much more efficient, you get both grid and agenda in one widget. Add to the widgets the far-superior customizable dock and I haven't looked back. Only drawback to running an AOSP rom over sense is the phone-related ui elements definitely suck, i.e. the dialer screen, etc. Overall though, totally worth the shift for me.
Royal Glacier v1.3. Its all in my signature. Fast and smooth with all the mt4g features available, great on battery life and performance and love the theme also.
boardopboy said:
I've tried most of them, but always find my self coming back to CM7 (7.0.2 currently). I want so badly to run Faux's ASOP, but he stripped out the notification bar power widgets... and I am not sure I can live without them!
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There are widgets in the market that do the same thing.
Faux's ASOP here. It's damn near perfect for me.
running royalglacier 1.3, its fast smooth, and gets awesome battery life. I have yet to try out any gingerbread roms, kinda waiting for the offical update, which may or may not come.
sunsean said:
I felt the same way until trying Launcher Plus Pro (LPP) - no it's not Sense, but offers many similar sense-like widgets that in my opinion actually work BETTER than their sense counterparts, i.e. the "Friends" LPP widget is SO much faster than Friendstream, and serves the same function, and LPP's calendar widget is much more efficient, you get both grid and agenda in one widget. Add to the widgets the far-superior customizable dock and I haven't looked back. Only drawback to running an AOSP rom over sense is the phone-related ui elements definitely suck, i.e. the dialer screen, etc. Overall though, totally worth the shift for me.
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I'm not using Sense for the widgets. Actually, I'm not using a single Sense widget on my 7 screens - even though I really like the full-screen weather animation that comes with HTC clock (but not willing to sacrifice half of my main screen for it).
I've been running LPP on stock Android for a long time using various ROMs on my Nexus One, including Gingerbread versions. The obvious parts of the stock-vs-Sense I already mentioned, but there are less obvious parts. The integration with external dialer in stock Android is bad, different screens coming up one after another for checking missed calls, very slow contact photo rendering on long lists, etc. LPP sucked when taking the phone off the charger every morning, having to restart and reload all the screens. Since GB it also sucked, being unable to do zoom-out and show 7 busy screens without hiccups, having to reload caches after every heavy app launch or charging, and scrolling slowly when using really busy screens. So I stopped using it and dropped GB in favor of Sense, and this preference remained when I moved to MT4G (my wife wanted the Nexus, I finally convinced her to move to Android from her antique WinMo).
boardopboy said:
I've tried most of them, but always find my self coming back to CM7 (7.0.2 currently). I want so badly to run Faux's ASOP, but he stripped out the notification bar power widgets... and I am not sure I can live without them!
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Just get widgetsoid from market, its even better with pop up for brightness and individual volume controls, reboot options, custom intent and more.
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darinmc said:
There are widgets in the market that do the same thing.
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Is there one you would recommended over another?
Edit: Now seeing post above mine... I'll check it out!
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Running CM7 and after they get all the bugs working for the Galaxy Tab, will be giving it a try also.
I use Power Control Plus
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Best Rom! (Include Screenshots of any kind)

I NEED to find the best ROM out there for the G2/Desire Z! let me know what you think it is!!
-Post what rom it is.. INCLUDING Build Number
-Explain why it is the best!
-Post a screenshot of your favorite screen i.e wallpaper..favorite widget etc..
If you could, let me know how good battery life is and stability!
-Looking for an everyday rom.. if possible
-Thanks!
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
I enjoy Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 because I find it to be consistently fast and responsive, everything works for me all the time, and I still have enough ram to run a couple of apps in the background, unlike every sense 3.0 rom/hybrid I've tried.
Highly highly recommended.
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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LMFAO.
Cyanogen MOD 7 RC 1 or if your so inclined, nightly build #156.
- So far after testing a few ROM I've been back to CM7. Why? Once installed and running and even with keep all my favourite apps open and running in the background, I still manage to keep about 80mb of ram and CPU usage is usually between 2% and 82% with an average of 4 or 5 programs running. Ok a bit excessive I know but it still works.
I have custom memory script running that's available here on XDA and various other gadget. Battery life is usually fairly consistent with 1day 9hours of use. I use the device quite a bit in a day.
Power saving options: Brightness is set to 20% only, Juice Defender installed.
Running background application is limited to my email mostly unless I'm doing some work. Most of the time email, exchange, Facebook and twitter are sync.
I'm using Launcher Pro with the license for my main interface. Here are some screen captures for your pleasure.
aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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...like, donut, dude? You are my hero
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aad4321 said:
I like sticking to the bone stock android. I have downgraded to android 1.5 and I can say I LOVE it. If you like ANDROID, Then get 1.5
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How would I go about doing that??
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DroidCell said:
How would I go about doing that??
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Too bad you're probably right. I would have been pumped if someone ported a G1 rom for the vision XD
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Personally, my favorite ROM is MIUI.us
The stock Music app in it, is my favorite music app by far, I especially love how it not only gets the lyrics, but also scrolls them karaoke style with the song. It also has a nice theming system, and a great built in theme. Everything overall looks nicer than stock Android.
Another great thing about it is the status bar, you can enable/disable USB Mass Storage using an on/off slider in the notifications, and I love the way the switches work in the status bar.
Then there's the stock Launcher, which is much nicer than the stock Android launcher in my opinion, though I still replace it with Go Launcher, again, my personal favorite.
If you're looking for a responsive, nice looking, and user friendly ROM, MIUI.us would be my suggestion. It also has a nice backup feature with their servers. You just need to make an MIUI account. Not sure if it's still necessary, but back when I did it, I had to go to the chinese MIUI website and use Google Translate to make my account <_<
sorgo said:
I've tested several ROMs on my DZ and now I use Vision Unity.
It's basicly a 2.1/3.0 Sense hybrid ROM giving you real eye-candy.
In the latest version (1.29.0) I found some bugs/disadvantages:
- the homescreen does not rotate on keyboard open
- sometimes it lags a bit
- it takes about 300 MB ram after start, leaving you just about 70MB free (other roms are much better in this criteria)
- I experienced already few times sudden phone restart (phone just lying on table, no aggresive apps run like 3d games etc, and after few hours I take the phone and it asks for PIN) = pretty critical if you wait for an important call.
but among the roms I've tried, this seems far the best if you decide to have HTC Sense. If you can miss sense, stick to CM7, there are really cool features like finetuning the display auto brightness intensity levels (really killer feature to battery life!)
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Amen, Brotha
The best rom is hardest to define because it's really up to personally preference. MIUI? Sure if you're into that whole thing,but frankly I have trust issues with Chinese tech companies for reasons that have been in the news here and there.
Cyanogenmod is a great AOSP rom even though it's not 100% AOSP it's quick, intuitive, and has lots of options that would allow you to customize it as you want.
There are other roms such as OTA roms that have been made that are also very quick, but not quite as intuitive and they are not as easily customized as some other roms.
Now we get into Sense. There are ports of great roms from other devices that may have a minor bug here and there. Unity is a great rom but I know it needs work on it simply because of little bugs here and there, lack of ram of the Vision, and the battery drain of 1.31 is not so appealing. These roms do not perform as well as Sense roms made for the Desire Z, how ever you do not have some sense 3.0 features that make Sense so much more enjoyable to use.
I currently run Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 and it's a very quick rom, but it lacks the eye candy that we all would love with Unity. However what I love about the sense community is that there are many themes and many ways to enhance sense with add-ons here and there which I have done.
I want to clearly state that this is just my opinion and you should try out the roms for your self to get your own opinion and know your personal preference what appeals to one person is not always the same as the next.
Virtuous unity 1.31
Just test it , good for daily use
meXdroidmod Pre Ghost Chili rom! Based on CM7 2.3.4. You want speed, eye candy animations, consistent dev support, and great battery life? Look no further! PreGhost features "tweaKr" script which allows for amazing customization. You can easily down volt your voltages to create great battery life. tweakr menu pick below from terminal emulator...
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Super cm7 is still my favorite. I keep trying other roms but I always come back to this one because it is super fast and clean. Mexdroid is pretty good to but it is too themed for me. I think they are working on a more stock version which could be pretty sweet.
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ChristianFS1 said:
Amen, Brotha
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Actually, I'm now running the "Virtuous Sense v2.0.0 :: Enhanced & Optimized Stock ROM (2.42.405.2)". I miss the Sense 3.0 features, but I can try to flash some available mods. Especially the brightness setting in the quick setting.
But it's a small tax for a stable ROM without restarts.

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