Which ROM? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Brief Intro:
My name is Mordy, I go by MordyT online (used to be active at ppcgeeks), long time PPC user (got my first device in 03, running winmo), been through almost every device HTC has made since then, last one being a TP2. Never left a device locked if at all possible, always running custom ROMS, a few times cooking them myself.
Then, last year, the EvO came out. Made the switch from the TP2 to the EvO and I was happy. After 7 years of fighting WM, I didn't have to cook a custom ROM, I didn't have to reset, etc. I rooted, flashed a few ROMS, but in the end always came back to stock ROM with mods. Wasn't too bad, not bloated, I kinda like sense, and I could always use a different launcher, etc.
Few days ago the account holder made the decision to go to TMo. Close person to them is a rep, so they got commission, Account Holder got a good deal, you know how it goes.
I said, sure, since my EvO pulls a whooping 87 kbps in Milwaukee WI area, doesn't TMo have hspda+ here? Picked up a MT4G, rooted it about 5 minutes ago using this this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996, ran a speed test and got 26 mbps down (SS attached), very nice.
But boy did TMo f up the stock ROM. So much crap in it. So I said, no problem, where is CM6? Uh, no CM6...
What I want is a stock Froyo Experience. No, not GB, Froyo. Ok, I would roll with GB if it was stable, but CM7 is not declared stable yet. So, that brings me to the question in the title...
Which STABLE ROM has as close to stock Froyo or GB? Thanks!

there is a CM6 for our devices it is at the top of page 2 in the Development section... here is the link if you like Sense but don't like the TMO Espresso UI overlay (personally I don't like it either but have come to love real/pure Sense) there are a couple of very nice ports of the Desire HD and the Desire Z. both of them are very nice pure Sense ports only "real difference is the D-HD doesn't have Landscape rotation for home screen and the D-Z does. Both of eVil D's Desire ports are very clean and smooth running, but if you're looking for one with a few themes to choose from Gr8Gorilla's GorrillaSens DHD is also very smooth running. all 3 of the Sense ports are very stable, I can't comment on CM6/7 because I haven't ran them... with as quick and strong as this device is I look at it this way I paid for a powerful device that was running Sense if I wanted AOSP I would have gotten the G2

RavenWulf said:
there is a CM6 for our devices it is at the top of page 2 in the Development section... here is the link if you like Sense but don't like the TMO Espresso UI overlay (personally I don't like it either but have come to love real/pure Sense) there are a couple of very nice ports of the Desire HD and the Desire Z. both of them are very nice pure Sense ports only "real difference is the D-HD doesn't have Landscape rotation for home screen and the D-Z does. Both of eVil D's Desire ports are very clean and smooth running, but if you're looking for one with a few themes to choose from Gr8Gorilla's GorrillaSens DHD is also very smooth running. all 3 of the Sense ports are very stable, I can't comment on CM6/7 because I haven't ran them... with as quick and strong as this device is I look at it this way I paid for a powerful device that was running Sense if I wanted AOSP I would have gotten the G2
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I saw that thread, but there is no download link that leads to a ROM...
I was looking into the DesireZ and HD port, and pure sense is ok, but I really want to leave it behind.... would you recommend one over the other? What major bugs are there in the ports if any?
Thanks for your reply btw.

There's a CM 6 rom on TeamDouche's mirror
Here the link
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
CM6 is pretty dead at this point though, no real development is done on it as far as I can tell. CM7 on the other hand is actively worked on and is better performing/looking in my opinion.
Sorry, I can't be of any help with Sense roms, never ran any. I did venture into Iced Glacier land and it was very good compared to stock in terms of bloatware but I still couldn't deal with HTC's crap.
Good luck and congrats on getting MT4G, you won't regret it.

MordyT said:
I saw that thread, but there is no download link that leads to a ROM...
I was looking into the DesireZ and HD port, and pure sense is ok, but I really want to leave it behind.... would you recommend one over the other? What major bugs are there in the ports if any?
Thanks for your reply btw.
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having ran eVil D's Desire-HD and Desire-Z ports and the Gr8Gorilla's Desire-HD, personally I prefer the D-HD ports. they are both great I personally didn't run into any major issues with either one. eVil D's does use a newer build base than Gorilla's, so for me it's really comes down to when I want just straight Sense without any theme's I use eVil's when I wanna run a theme the guys here have done I run Gorilla's. If you want pure Sense without any of the TMO Espresso BS then you can't go wrong with either of these ports

borodin1 said:
There's a CM 6 rom on TeamDouche's mirror
Here the link
http://mirror.teamdouche.net/?device=glacier
CM6 is pretty dead at this point though, no real development is done on it as far as I can tell. CM7 on the other hand is actively worked on and is better performing/looking in my opinion.
Sorry, I can't be of any help with Sense roms, never ran any. I did venture into Iced Glacier land and it was very good compared to stock in terms of bloatware but I still couldn't deal with HTC's crap.
Good luck and congrats on getting MT4G, you won't regret it.
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Thanks for the link. Never though of checking the mirrors, though once cm pulled it, they pulled it form everywhere.
RavenWulf said:
having ran eVil D's Desire-HD and Desire-Z ports and the Gr8Gorilla's Desire-HD, personally I prefer the D-HD ports. they are both great I personally didn't run into any major issues with either one. eVil D's does use a newer build base than Gorilla's, so for me it's really comes down to when I want just straight Sense without any theme's I use eVil's when I wanna run a theme the guys here have done I run Gorilla's. If you want pure Sense without any of the TMO Espresso BS then you can't go wrong with either of these ports
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Looks like eVil DHD is going to be my main sense ROM. Thanks for your help.

MordyT said:
Looks like eVil DHD is going to be my main sense ROM. Thanks for your help.
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Good choice. I've been running it now for quite a while...it's excellent.

Well, flashed it, it runs very nice, thanks all for your help.
P.S. Any recommended kernels? Battery life would be the only reason to switch. (and yes, I could underclock, I know...)

the OC kernel that eVil D put in the ROM is very nice and stable (I believe it goes up to 1497MHz) also the kernel that Faux123 has been working on is very nice (goes up to 1.84GHz)
I know Faux's has the Smartass governor in it, off the top of my head I can't remember if eVil D's does or not. also Faux's newest version has the latest updates/upgrades from HTC for "Updated GPIO drivers, Updated LED Driver, Updated Wifi Driver, Updated Touch Screen Driver, Updated Sound Driver and Updated DMA engine" he pulled them from the Kernel for the EVO Shift 4G
edit: I have been running his version 0.6 all day and it's been like silk and the battery seems to be holding well (but I also run Juice defender which helps some)

RavenWulf said:
the OC kernel that eVil D put in the ROM is very nice and stable (I believe it goes up to 1497MHz) also the kernel that Faux123 has been working on is very nice (goes up to 1.84GHz)
I know Faux's has the Smartass governor in it, off the top of my head I can't remember if eVil D's does or not. also Faux's newest version has the latest updates/upgrades from HTC for "Updated GPIO drivers, Updated LED Driver, Updated Wifi Driver, Updated Touch Screen Driver, Updated Sound Driver and Updated DMA engine" he pulled them from the Kernel for the EVO Shift 4G
edit: I have been running his version 0.6 all day and it's been like silk and the battery seems to be holding well (but I also run Juice defender which helps some)
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Sorry it took me so long to to get back to you.
The rom doesn't come come with the kernal, it has to be flashed separately, right?
As for smartass, it needs setcpu, right?

MordyT said:
Sorry it took me so long to to get back to you.
The rom doesn't come come with the kernal, it has to be flashed separately, right?
As for smartass, it needs setcpu, right?
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No, evilD HD, comes with OC kernel, just faux123 kernel has all the latest patch and updates.
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like epsix said, eVild D's ROM does come with the kernel "pre-installed", if I remember correctly eVil D's is preset to "on demand". I know faux's is preset to "smartass". but yes to change governor you need SetCPU or it's equivalent. you can get SetCPU free from the dev here on xda, this what I originally did but ended up getting the paid version from the market (no difference in the app just wanted to support the dev for future updates). yes there are other "free" cpu tuners in the market but the UI is much cleaner on SetCPU and I like the different colour themes.

Thanks guys!
1 last question ( I know, I should should just nandroid and flash it) but what is the major differances between evil HF and Iced Glacier?

evil's is a true sense rom...iced glacier is a espresso sense (what came on phone)

I-G is basically just the stock ROM with most of the demo-ware pulled out and the ROM smoothed out/cleaned up.
The Desire HD ports are true Sense without any of the TMO overlay at all and it has (not just in the ROM but downloadable from HTC) several more widgets and themes/skins that TMO pull out to put on the Espresso overlay, that and all the nice skins they have made for the Desire HD will work (like the theme I am running right now is a very nice blend of Gingerbread and Honeycomb). over all the layout of the ROM just seems more user friendly and clean (I really like the "personalize" soft-key right there on the home-screen)

Gotcha. I defiantly don't want the iced rom, whole reason I flashed to HD was to get away from the messed up sense TMo thought was in...
Thanks for all!
I also enjoy the personalize found on the HD ROM, like the Metal Skin. I somehow manage to download a skin that is already on the device and now I have two of them. Any ideas as to delete it?

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[Q] Android Roms

Hey Everyone,
I just traded in my HD2 for an EVO. I must admit that I was a ROM junkie when I had the phone.
Now that I have my EVO ,and I have successfully rooted it, I have discovered that I know none of the ROM developers and dont know the differences between each of the ROMs.
Is there a page that has all the comparisions? I know we had several for the HD2. If not maybe I can tell you what I am looking for and I could get the endless list narrowed down to a couple I could try.
I like both sense and core roms. 4g is a must. No stock apps.
I know all the Roms inprove speeds and battery life.
Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your help!
Ok I just found the ROM listing. Any idea on which ones I should try first? I know they are all good.
I am running BakedSnack which is not offered here anymore, but I have in the past used Damaged Control and Fresh as well as Cyanogen, If you don't require Sense I'd use CM6.
Cyanogen doesn't have 4G.
If you you want 4G you have to stick with a Sense ROM. They are all good but I think the best ones are Fresh and Myn's. Fresh was my daily driver for a very long time, and Myn's has a very devout following. I'm currently running MIUI but am about to give it up because of how damn buggy it is, and I think I'm going to go with Myn's once I decide to stop being lazy about it.
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Ok I just found the ROM listing. Any idea on which ones I should try first? I know they are all good.
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Myn Warm, Hero_over's Backed Snack, flipmodez's Fresh are complete and polished Sense roms.
Cyanogen or MIUI_EVOv0.11.5 are non-sense roms. They have non-functional components within them (ie HDMI, 4G, poor battery life and/or poor wifi/radio performance)
Thanks for all the help guys!
I'd say myn's warm 2.2 rls3 for a sense based rom and Virus airborne 3.4 for a non-sense based rom. I'd rocking airborne with the netarchy 4.2.1 cfs kernel.
Vaelpak is fully functioning and the dev is very, very responsive to the users of his rom. It is non-sense.
I'm running Myn's rom right now and absolutely love it. It's fully functioning and looks just stunning.
james
Just try them all!
I'm using Azrael 2.4 and I have 3 different launchers. I have Sense UI, Launcher Pro Plus, and Dell Stage.
I changed my density from 240 to 160 and Dell Stage is working like a charm. I don't have to press the App drawer button to go to my apps. All I do is swipe up and the apps appear.
Azrael runs on Sense, yet u can run any launcher and forget about sense whenever u want.
Plus, u get 403+ mb free when u install the rom
Posted from my EVO 4G running Azrael 2.4 with Dell Stage
where do i find that rom
I have an Htc EVO, How do I "ROOT" my phone and what are the benefits of doing it.
Thanks,
Candee

[Q] Few questions on set up. (coming from nexus one)

Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
Anybody?...
For one, the rom is so big because it's a sense rom. Track pad wake works out the gate. Theres no home replacement that you can use sense widgets with
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Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
Depends on your personal hardware. I run mine at 1.8 on the smaetass kernel with no problems, but some can't do that.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
Stocks (and widget), myfaves (and Widgets), twitter widget, flicker, and a few others.
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
It is huge compared to an aosp rom like was on the Nexus, but that's because of all the stuff added with HTC sense.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
No, sadly there isn't. The sense Widgets are so deeply integrated with the rest of the launcher that such is not possible. However, it is possible to find some Widgets that do similar things.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
That was on stock as well, and most custom roms will incorporate this highly popular feature.
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Well, the best thing I can say on this is to not expect it to be like aosp. That's the point of being sense, its unique in its look. It just wont always be the fastest on the block.
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
Not really sure how to answer this question, really. Grankin has a few good kernels for iced glacier that can bring the speed up to 1.7 Guzman, and the smartass governor built into dumfuq's kernel (built for cm, but has since been modded to be compatible with sense roms like iced) enables it to get better speed and battery life.
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
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Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
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Yeah, but speaking as a user of said kernel (albeit on cm7), it's worth it.
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EDIT: also, I dont think I mentioned this previously, but the default setup for the cm6 kernel will break wi-fi on sense ROMs, so be sure to set up the wi-fi fix that he added today.
I am currently on ice glacier also but I really like eVil's Desire ROMs. there's a Z and HD flavor. they are more full on stock sense experience than iced which is a more/less clone of espresso.
I personally prefer the stock sense to espresso...there's more HTC Widgets and some other cool stuff. I also really like the trackpad unlock in addition to wake which is built in on those as well. the only thing I REALLY miss on those ROMs is the espresso dialer which has the built in VIP calls (allows a VIP contact to ring even with ringer / sound off).
I haven't tried gorillas DHD sense port yet but prob will in a couple days.
and before you ask - the difference between the Z and HD ROMs is Z has a landscape rotating home screen and larger fonts by default and HD doesnt have the homescreen rotation and has a smaller font. they're about identical as far as I can tell aside from that. I had no real problems on 0.2.x versions of Z and HD but eVil just released 0.3 and it seems a couple ppl are complaining of a quirk here and there..btw both of those eVil ROMs have a 1.49ghz kernel with built in smartass scaling which I really like.
I'm currently oc'ed to 1.2 max on iced 1.1.6 to try and maximize battery.
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Best Non-CM Gingerbread ROM?

As the title states looking for opinions on what non-CM Gingerbread ROMs are working best for other users. This also excludes ROMs based on CM. As much as Im not a Sense fan, Im at the point where I dont care if it is Sense or not. Im thinking of switching from CM7 mainly cause the GPS issue has finally gotten to me (ive tried all fixes and have GPS working but its so crappy compared to stock). Enough of that, time to move on. Welcome to opinions on some Gingerbread roms.
well i find the meXdroidMod meXperia remeX really awesome, though its cm nightly based, i think a good non cm would be the ginger-sense by gingervillian
I never was a Sense fan until I came across Virtuous. Best ROM for the G2 in my opinion. I'm always trying other ROMs just to keep up with what's out there, but I keep coming back to Virtuous as my daily driver. Everything just works with it, including GPS.
MIUI hands down. I love how fast and smooth it is, especially with pershoot's latest kernel.
miui for sure...
was gonna suggest ultimate droid. but its cm7 based. sooo.. miui. best rom IMHO
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MIUI hands down. I love how fast and smooth it is, especially with pershoot's latest kernel.
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Yea MIUI! My favorite. I think you will like UD( UltimateDroid) Its based on CM but I think its a little bit better but that's just me of course.
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ultimate droid 3.3 is the best i've come across thus far.
I wouldn't recommend MIUI, it's boring.
mexdroid and pyromod are great but are CM based yet I don't experience GPS issues.
non CM7 based I recommend this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
it's sense but one of the best sense roms out there.
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass. I really want to try the miui, but there are like five different ones in rom manager and two or three on the forum, no idea which is most up to date, supported the most, or used by the most people. Is miui supposed to be iphone clone?
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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ultimate droid 3.3 is the best i've come across thus far.
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+1, its pretty awesome
xsteven77x said:
Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass. I really want to try the miui, but there are like five different ones in rom manager and two or three on the forum, no idea which is most up to date, supported the most, or used by the most people. Is miui supposed to be iphone clone?
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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yup that's what it's supposed to be with a little bit of android.
Thugnificent69 said:
I wouldn't recommend MIUI, it's boring.
mexdroid and pyromod are great but are CM based yet I don't experience GPS issues.
non CM7 based I recommend this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983991
it's sense but one of the best sense roms out there.
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Aha... we were just saying. It matters how you like a rom.I like Miui, haven't been in any other rom for a long time.
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is there any rom that has the tweeks from Ultimatedroid but gingersense based?
Use gingervillian 1.5 its stock with cm7 settings which you can use optional if you want.
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Ultimatedroid definitely kicks ass.
Edit: UD is based off cyanogen also but actually feels like a rom all its own and not a CM ripoff.
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Some issues with ultimatedroid(for g2) are thus follows:
~Gps is still borked.
~After you select one alternate theme no other one will install, same goes for boot animation though in the case of boot animations once you have selected an alternate you cannot change it.
~Font changes do not work.
~Applications like to uninstall themselves.
UD "seems" snappy but it is entirely due to sped up render effects. I pulled just as fast & faster quadrant scores running CM6.1.1 with pershoots latest kernel.
Speed is in the eye of the beholder people. So far virtually ever rom I've tried that is based on CM7 code has some sort of "gotta pray to machine gods" type element to get GPS going. Virtuous is laggy even with overclocking past 1ghz and if you don't dig SenseUI you're up a creek. The only major rom I have yet to try is MIUI but I really don't dig iphone style integration so I guess I'm just going to be stuck on CM6.1.1 till the official Gingerbread release for the g2 comes out.
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Some issues with ultimatedroid(for g2) are thus follows:
~Gps is still borked.
~After you select one alternate theme no other one will install, same goes for boot animation though in the case of boot animations once you have selected an alternate you cannot change it.
~Font changes do not work.
~Applications like to uninstall themselves.
UD "seems" snappy but it is entirely due to sped up render effects. I pulled just as fast & faster quadrant scores running CM6.1.1 with pershoots latest kernel.
Speed is in the eye of the beholder people. So far virtually ever rom I've tried that is based on CM7 code has some sort of "gotta pray to machine gods" type element to get GPS going. Virtuous is laggy even with overclocking past 1ghz and if you don't dig SenseUI you're up a creek. The only major rom I have yet to try is MIUI but I really don't dig iphone style integration so I guess I'm just going to be stuck on CM6.1.1 till the official Gingerbread release for the g2 comes out.
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I think the gps varies partly on hardware also, because I have never had any of the aforementioned problems on UD (given I never tried to change the font), and gps worked fine. As in accuracy three meters and under and no drifting. Gps works for me on all these roms that people say it is broke on when the OP states the technically it is working correctly. Coming from a vibrant before I have seen how wildly gps hardware quality can vary with a given model, I do believe people when they say it doesn't work for them but there are also people who never expierience these problems.
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you can use miui with a different launcher then its not really all that iphone'ish, i have used miui as my rom for most the time i have had my phone and it runs grate i used it as i love the luncher others seem to swear by it with luncher pro or adw though.
atm i am trying to get over my app drawer hate so i can try some more roms out there, sense seems to work best with the phone seen as it has been made for the keybaord or so i have have found anyway.
is there any luncher/mod out there that will remove an app form the drawer when its on a homepage?
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you can use miui with a different launcher then its not really all that iphone'ish, i have used miui as my rom for most the time i have had my phone and it runs grate i used it as i love the luncher others seem to swear by it with luncher pro or adw though.
atm i am trying to get over my app drawer hate so i can try some more roms out there, sense seems to work best with the phone seen as it has been made for the keybaord or so i have have found anyway.
is there any luncher/mod out there that will remove an app form the drawer when its on a homepage?
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Launcher pro and adw have to option to hide apps in the app drawer... I'm like 98% positive... I think adw is called categories..
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I was using GingerVillain for months because my GPS wouldn't run on my old radio with CM7. Once i upgraded my radio I used CM7. GingerVillain was great considering it was would before CM7 but did have some issues with randomly restarting.
I don't believe the xboarders rom is CM based. It's just straight up, no bs, stock gingerbread.

Looking for a new ROM, been using Redemption 2.4 nothing else comes close....

Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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AlmostTactful said:
Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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That combination isn't possible yet due to the fact that kernel codes aren't released for the leaked kernel. No overclocking yet my friend on 3.0.
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Try incredibly reengineered, not the Z one.
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Awesome, looking at it now. Question though...since I'm under 10 posts I can't ask him there. Is the 2.4 version downoad link broken for you guys? The latest I can get is the 2.3.1
Last I recall, the download was hosted elsewhere, idk where.
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Yea its hosted at The Mik Mik which is down due to upgrades. I've been using IR 2.3 and 2.4 since I got my incredible back in March but I've recently moved on to the gingersense roms since theyre blazing fast but theyre battery hogs.
I used Redemptive Revolution for a long time, but the interface got old. I started trying the Z roms like WarmZ which I liked a lot. But WarmZ had some stability issues, and a buddy kept talking about his contract being up and getting the Evo 3D. So I started trying Sense 3.0... the Uber Kingdom rom. It looks wonderful, and I'm quite happy with that, but it's definitely not terribly solid yet. It does seem stable, but some stuff is just not working (settings for some apps like weather freeze and FC, text not visible on e-mail widget, etc).
I would follow its progress, as there's only a few spotty issues I've noticed, and the updated interface with Sense 3.0 is really quite nice.
There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.
What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.
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What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.
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just flashed MIUI its absolutely amazing, ive done cyan, ultimate droid, liquid light, incredibly reengineered z and others MIUI is my fave now then re engineered z
Vote for MIUI as well. I try to go back to other roms, but the really stable ones (SR4, Magnolia, Redemption) are just boring and outdated. Sense 1.0 is boring. Then when I want to try a newer Sense rom, they're either battery hogs (I'm looking at you, GingerSense roms) or slow and laggy (Sense 3.0 roms). Then I go to CM7 and have no issues, but it just doesn't compare to MIUI. MIUI is speedy, and the stock applications (normally I replace them with Go SMS pro, or alternate cameras etc) are amazing. The theme support is amazing. I don't even use the stock launcher (too iPhone-y for me), but with LPP, it truly is an awesome rom.
If you're out to try a new rom, give MIUI a try!
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There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.
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Best ROMs for the DINC (I really have tried them all for a at least 4 days each):
Froyo = Sky Raider 4.0 - This one Rocks, and I would love to see it on a GB Platform with Sense 2.0
GB = MIUI - I don't always use (or like) the Mac-like stock MIUI Launcher, but you can use both ADW-ex and Launcher Pro to make it very Sense-like. This ROM makes the DINC last 28 hours with moderate-to-heavy use. It is solid and I have yet to force a reboot. I tried it overclocked, and that does tend to make it FC, but you really don't need to OC it to make it silky smooth. I ran this rom against a Thunderbolt in the Best Buy store, and it beat it in almost every category (screen transitions, app opening/closing, market searches, and even web browsing - what even web-browsing you say? - yes - even web browsing). The rep was scratching his head regarding the web-browsing, but we tried it against a few other phones, and the only one close was a DroidX not the X2 running Gingerbread (from one of the other customers).
My one complaint with all the GB roms is the crappy stock email client with no search functionality (I use Exchange), so I'm waiting with baited breath for a Sense-base GB rom.
Does anyone know if the new Gingerbread with Sense running on the EVO has a better email client than the stock GB mail client (which bites)? I use SkyRaider 4 with Sense 2 on the Froyo platform, but MIUI on the GB platform with LauncherPro to make it as Sense-like as possible. Since the GB mail client neglected the 'Search' functionality, I had to buy the Enhanced Mail client (I'm and Exchange user), but there is no scrolling widget for this. A Sense-based GB rom with a Sense-based mail client would solve all my problems. Bottom line, has anyone seen the Sense Mail client on the new GB-based EVO?
get yourself some miui gingerbread! best thing ive run across. put it on the new tiamat sbc kernel and youll have a fast ass phone thatll last all day
I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly
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I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly
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Me and incubus and nytergae are going to blow your minds dudring the summer
Just revisited the list of DINC roms on XDA
Just went back to the updated list of roms for the DINC
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=638)
There are a number of GB Sense roms listed that I'm kicking myself for missing. I'll start trying these out and report back. One question about these roms:
Q - Assuming that all these new roms come with their own Kernel, are there any recommended GB with Sense 2/3 kernels for OC, battery life and undervoltage?
Please report any feedback on the new GB Sense ROMs
We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?
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We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?
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Checkout Nils' Business Gingersense:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104883
Now running Kingdom Stock Gingersense
Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.
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Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.
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I don't mean this to be a threadjack, but I wanted to go into details about my experience with Uber Kingdom.
I tried PMing Joel, but I can't post yet in the dev forum either. (what a lame new user restriction) My biggest issue with Uber Kingdom is the HTC mail widget. The font on the widget is not visible. When you click on a row, you go to a specific mail and inside the app, it reads fine, but the widget itself doesn't display text, which is quite annoying.
Otherwise, as I said earlier, I'm quite happy with the performance, the interface, etc.
Another few things I'd ideally like to tweak is the stupid theme button on the bottom launcher to be a different button. Once you set up your theme it isn't something you change often enough to need it to be so prominent. (also long clicking on the desktop accomplished the same thing, so it really isn't necessary at all) Normally on the roms I've used, rosie settings, or flashable zips let me set it to settings. I'd like to find a way to do that.
I also like seeing numbers on my battery indicator, which Uber kingdom doesn't.
I would also prefer not showing a statusbar indication that GPS ISN'T enabled. It not being there is enough for me.
Otherwise, seems stable for the passed few days, all the apps I've tried are working. Text Messsages failed to restore from titanium from 2 to 4... but I'm not sure why. They restored from WarmZ to Uber Kingdom 2.

Need advice, can't find a good ROM

Hello everyone, for a little while I've been trying to find an ideal ROM for daily use, nothing fancy but something that meets my needs;
Most of all I need it to send/receive calls reliably and have decent battery life. I don't quite want something really flashy though eye candy makes the phone feel new & updated but functionality is more important to me. Here's a quick list of thing that I NEED working:
-Ability to disable data roaming (rules out express)
-4G (rules out all MIUI)
-Smooth video camera 720p without being choppy (rules out synergy)
-No random bugs ie, lock screen, weather, clocks (just the basics)
If you have tried or know of any currently available ROMs that fit this criteria please point me in the right direction, I'm so tired of flashing all these different ROMS only to find out that one of the things listed was not mentioned under the ROM description where I downloaded it, I know most of them claim to be bug-free but there is no such thing as bug free ROM unless I go back to stock, and I understand that so I'm not looking for the holy grail, just something that works for what I need it to do.
phone is rooted & running amon-ra recovery
Thanks in advance
Deck 1.3
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thanks I'm flashing right now, i'm open to any other suggestions if there are others...
Check out Tommy Tomatoe's Classic ROM. It's gotvwhat you want and lots of options, tweaks & themes to go with it.
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Swag released a public beta, a new stock SOS V rom, try that out you won't be disappointed.
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Gruesomewolf has a pretty nice rom out
you guys are awesome I'm going to try all these suggestions, deck is very fast and stable (so far) but a bit too simple and lacks eye candy, I feel like it'll be the ROM I fall back to if the others fail for me in any way
by the way, if it's not too much trouble do you guys have links? I searched for these roms but there are several with similar names!
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you guys are awesome I'm going to try all these suggestions, deck is very fast and stable (so far) but a bit too simple and lacks eye candy, I feel like it'll be the ROM I fall back to if the others fail for me in any way
by the way, if it's not too much trouble do you guys have links? I searched for these roms but there are several with similar names!
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Deck is what I used and had installed on my EVO when I sold it, just saw this thread as I was coming to say goodbye to the EVO community.
Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.
i use AOKP M4
fast. really fast
try out virus eternity rom, and radiance rc 6.1 both amazing sense 3.5's
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try out virus eternity rom, and radiance rc 6.1 both amazing sense 3.5's
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Never liked sense roms, too much junk, deck is nice and basic. Allows for easier customization.
Caulkins E4GT GB 2.9.2 bare ROM, FB27 modem, rogue gunslinger kernel on one EPIC beast of a phone.
Gruesomewolf's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203761
I just started running a port of Gummys ICS rom. It's been running great so far. very speedy, all the features you requested, plus the latest-n-greatest android improvements.
List of features:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10cuwc5FMEwTfieF1Mio66fNCsyLzG4nXPGo9VS9MivM/edit?pli=1
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Downloads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23552374&postcount=42
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MikG is awesome
I to have been using gummy ics rom, and no problems so far but the ones in the op, great from give it a run.
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for the longest time i was running the newest and best version of KINGS ROM. i always thought his roms were amazing. ran them for MONTHS. back in oct i changed to evo deck and honestly i will NEVER go to another rom. the advanced CPU options and amazing smoothness of the rom makes it THE BEST, PERIOD
Best I know Rom
oceanisbleu
I think the most stable Rom out is MikG v3.1 It's a sense 2.1 3.0 Rom with a Ton of themes and mods that can be mixed to suit your style. Because of the hardware we have on the EVO there's only so much you can get out of it. Anything above 3.0 doesn't play nice with our phones. I've tested and read about every Rom out there and MikG v3.1 running Anthrax kernel with v6 Superscript & 3G turbo is the best.
my sense load is mikg 3.XX and my aosp load is aokp m4. both worked flawlessly.
wow I am blown away by Tomatoe's express
tons of space left after flash & installing all my apps also fast & smooth.
Reset the battery & unplugged it yesterday morning and now it's been over 24 hours since I last charged it, talked for at least an hour, sent & received some texts, had wifi on the entire time, as mentioned I've been downloading stuff off the market & even played pandora for at least half an hour and right now the battery still has 38% left, I wanted to test all the other ROMs mentioned but I find it hard getting out of this comfort spot I find myself in now that I have everything set up the way I like it
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oceanisbleu
I think the most stable Rom out is MikG v3.1 It's a sense 2.1 3.0 Rom with a Ton of themes and mods that can be mixed to suit your style. Because of the hardware we have on the EVO there's only so much you can get out of it. Anything above 3.0 doesn't play nice with our phones. I've tested and read about every Rom out there and MikG v3.1 running Anthrax kernel with v6 Superscript & 3G turbo is the best.
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I may be wrong since I'm starting to forget what I have & have not tried yet but have you had trouble with video cam at 720p? again I could be wrong but I wanna say that I experienced choppy recording from mikG, I like sense 3.0 most when it comes to look & feel so I might give it a try....
I'm still very amazed by tomatoe's express, my excitement will wear off in a day or two I am sure haha
on a side note, I may have found a problem with express (or my google voice!!)
I have over 50% reception in my home, and since last night I've seen 2 missed calls on my google voice inbox but the phone never rang, could this be the ROM or Google?

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