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[Q] Few questions on set up. (coming from nexus one)

Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)

Anybody?...

For one, the rom is so big because it's a sense rom. Track pad wake works out the gate. Theres no home replacement that you can use sense widgets with

Marine6680 said:
Since I am new to the MT4G and sense ROMs, I have a few questions.
What is the CPU freq most everyone is using for day to day. I have mine set at 1.4ghz as 1.7 seems too much.
Depends on your personal hardware. I run mine at 1.8 on the smaetass kernel with no problems, but some can't do that.
I am running the latest Iced Glacier ROM. What was the bloatware removed? There is still a lot in this ROM I do not use. (like stocks, setup and myfaves) What is safe to remove?
Stocks (and widget), myfaves (and Widgets), twitter widget, flicker, and a few others.
This ROM seems huge to me.... its over 200mb! even the most bloated Nexus ROM I used barely reached 100mb.
It is huge compared to an aosp rom like was on the Nexus, but that's because of all the stuff added with HTC sense.
Is there any home replacement that will allow the sense widgets? ADW EX will not. Seems that the widgets would be framework based and not launcher based.
No, sadly there isn't. The sense Widgets are so deeply integrated with the rest of the launcher that such is not possible. However, it is possible to find some Widgets that do similar things.
Trackpad wake, is that a root feature or did the stock ROM allow that as well?
That was on stock as well, and most custom roms will incorporate this highly popular feature.
I literally had my phone for less than an hour before it was rooted, and that includes the 30 min drive from the UPS center. So the differences between the stock software and the modified are lost on me.
Any tips to working with sense better? It has a lot of nice convenience and flash compared to vanilla android. I figured if I am going to use a sense ROM may as well use it to its potential. If I don't I may as well go with CyanogenMOD. (CM7 on the nexus was nice btw, I think I liked the new stock android keyboard the best of all I have used including swype)
Well, the best thing I can say on this is to not expect it to be like aosp. That's the point of being sense, its unique in its look. It just wont always be the fastest on the block.
Any custom kernels that work better than the one in Iced Glacier? (give reasons why) I need good battery life, so anything reasonable that helps is great. I am not on it constantly and eating battery, but signal is spotty at work; who knew carbon fiber was such a good RF blocker...
Not really sure how to answer this question, really. Grankin has a few good kernels for iced glacier that can bring the speed up to 1.7 Guzman, and the smartass governor built into dumfuq's kernel (built for cm, but has since been modded to be compatible with sense roms like iced) enables it to get better speed and battery life.
I think that is all for now... I am off to bed. 12 hour work days 7 days a week can get to you. (another reason I'm asking questions outright rather than extensive searching on the forum)
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Any other questions, or if you need something explained, shoot me a pm or hit me up on Google talk (same username as here) and ill happily answer any questions or help if I can
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Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.

Marine6680 said:
Thanks I will do that. I will get it down sometime, just different than what I am used to.
BTW which smartass kernal should I use? I'm assuming the cm6 version.
Yup... But you have to use fastboot to get it to work right.
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Yeah, but speaking as a user of said kernel (albeit on cm7), it's worth it.
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EDIT: also, I dont think I mentioned this previously, but the default setup for the cm6 kernel will break wi-fi on sense ROMs, so be sure to set up the wi-fi fix that he added today.

I am currently on ice glacier also but I really like eVil's Desire ROMs. there's a Z and HD flavor. they are more full on stock sense experience than iced which is a more/less clone of espresso.
I personally prefer the stock sense to espresso...there's more HTC Widgets and some other cool stuff. I also really like the trackpad unlock in addition to wake which is built in on those as well. the only thing I REALLY miss on those ROMs is the espresso dialer which has the built in VIP calls (allows a VIP contact to ring even with ringer / sound off).
I haven't tried gorillas DHD sense port yet but prob will in a couple days.
and before you ask - the difference between the Z and HD ROMs is Z has a landscape rotating home screen and larger fonts by default and HD doesnt have the homescreen rotation and has a smaller font. they're about identical as far as I can tell aside from that. I had no real problems on 0.2.x versions of Z and HD but eVil just released 0.3 and it seems a couple ppl are complaining of a quirk here and there..btw both of those eVil ROMs have a 1.49ghz kernel with built in smartass scaling which I really like.
I'm currently oc'ed to 1.2 max on iced 1.1.6 to try and maximize battery.
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What's the difference? CM7 and Warm2.2 aside from one being sense and the other AOSP

Okay so I have been thinking about this for awhile now and either I'm missing something or there is no substantial differences.
I was recently on Myns 2.2 RLS 5 and in my waiting time to RLS 6 I decided to try out the lastest nightly of CM7. Funny thing is, I was running ADW launcher which is also the stock launcher in CM7. I came to the conclusion that there really aren't too many differences between CM7 and Warm 2.2 or any sense ROM for that matter.
CM7/AOSP:
More customization
Warm2.2/Sense:
Full functionality of the phone with nothing not working
Sense launcher capabilities
A few other minor capabilities
I really, really cannot figure out the difference in the 2 at all aside from one being sense and the other being AOSP.
Potentially, I could use ADW launcher on both of them and they would look exactly the same and really the only differences would be that Sense would have full functionality of its features and CM7 would have more available customizations.
I MUST be missing something here. I have never really used an AOSP Rom as my daily driver so I can't say anything about the battery life or the speed and performance, but is this where the major differences in the two types of ROMS are?
Please no flaming here guys, I'm just looking at this in the simplest way possible.

Not only is there the Sense vs AOSP difference (which is big in my opinion, regardless of which you prefer), but you're also talking about two different versions of Android. CM7 is Gingerbread, and Warm 2.2 is Froyo. They're both Android, but other than that they're completely different.

Theres lots of little things some of which you don't notice if you are using adw, like senses widgets(paid launcher pro comes closest to replacing these).
Mainly the dialer, email, htc twitter app, music app, lockscreen, calculator, camera, calender, Bluetooth, Facebook integration etc. It's mostly apps with some os stuff like the Bluetooth on CM can use a wiimote.
I wish HTC would let us use thier apps on asop. HTC's dialer and email are what made it really hard for me to switch.
Before I get told about dialer one, I use it and its fine it's more the in call screen that pisses me off. I have to enter 16-24 strings of numbers about 15 times a day and having the number pad on the top is just plain stupid.

code. the code is way different on the entire thing, aosp versus sense. so if you are going to use adw anyways, i'd definetally go with cm7 to conserve battery and performance.
edit: wow didnt even realize i'm over 1000 posts. just kind of let that slip by. well, you get my 1002.

This is what I was aiming for. I like the functionality of adw launcher and was wondering where I would see the best results with it. Everything seems so much crisper in sense like the Facebook integration and dialer just like he said so it will be a hard change for me to make. Ilk try it out until rls 6 comes out. Then I'm going to have to try out calkulins and mikfroyo because Ive heard a lot of good things about them.
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All I can say is try them all and see what you like best. I have tried almost every Rom for the Evo and I stick with CM. The reason being is I don't like HTC Sense and use ADW on it anyway, so why not use an AOSP Rom and that way it won't kill my battery to have ADW because HTC Sense still runs in the background even if you are using a home replacement app. Really I love the smoothness and quickness of AOSP and I love that team CM has coded a fully functional AOSP, built from the ground up, for just about every device out right now. Unbelievable! Anyway, back to my point. Try multiple Rom's and give them each a few days so that you get to use all the functions you normally use with them and decide which one you like best. This is what I did, but I was already a little biased toward CM because that's what I used on my MyTouch and loved then and still love it now. I don't hate on Sense because I feel that HTC did a nice job and made a very functional version of android which works well with their devices, but for me it is CM7 all the way.
PS. I still flash new versions of some of the Sense Rom's that I liked every once in a while to see if they will pull me away from CM, but I always go back.

#1 main feature on CM7 that beats the competition: Screen on/off animations! =)
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Agreed...very awesome lol. Even caught my non tech savvy girl friends eye!
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Cyanogen vs Virtuous

Just wondering what your thoughts are. I like them both, so hopefully you can all help me make a decision.
Notes:
*if option to customize lock screen exists, HUGE plus
*I'll probably overclock / use SetCPU, so good balance of performance / battery is huge for me.
Duke it out!

I've had experience with both, virtuous is nice but CM is so much faster. It is also nice to have Android the way it was meant to be and not some companies highly modded version.
Sense uses quite a lot of memory whereas CM does not and this makes a big difference with how responsive your phone can be.

I've been using CM 7.0 Nightlies for quite a while now and the speed is awesome, plus I also like the fact that it's Android the way it should be. Battery is great for me with Cyanogen as well, about 26-30 hours with average usage (stock battery).

Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
One example would be facebook linking to your contacts. I hate seeing a generic photo when I get calls and would rather see the picture of the person calling. Having this kind of assumed integration is great. Other features like the dialer, working GPS and rmk's other small tweaks (see: Virtuous advanced kernel for use with SetCPU) make the Sense experience that much better.
On the otherhand, AOSP or CM versions of android are much lighter as they dont have the kind of assumptions and integrations of a Sense-based rom. Being highly customizable, you can implement different launchers, skins, lock screens, docks, etc.. but I did find myself cursing at some points because I am just a Sense kind of guy deep inside.
It really comes down to personal preference. Try them both for a week and see how you feel about them. Alot of people have been saying Virtuous is laggy, but I have not seen any of that lag. As with all flashes, clear data, cache, battery and davlik through recovery! Have fun and i hope you find the rom that fits you.
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Athrun88 said:
Having had experience with Cyanogen-based ROMs on my previous Hero and Virtuous on my current DZ, i am actually torn. For me, personally, I would have to give the edge to Virtuous. Having the wide customizability of CM was great and having LauncherPRO was so flexible. That being said, however, I like how HTC's Sense just gets you and assumes many of the things you would like to do instead of you doing it yourself.
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Sense is definitely nice, and it's something that easily sets HTC devices apart from the pack. That being said, I'm much more of an AOSP kind of guy, because as nice and pretty as Sense is, it just takes up too much RAM for my liking, and the launcher is just not customizable enough for me. Having only 3 buttons at the bottom absolutely drives me nuts; I've got to have the scrolling bottom row like Go Launcher and Launcher Pro provide. Obviously you can use these on a Sense rom, but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher? For me it boils down to this, and I'm sure the many other features that Cyanogenmod has that I use on a daily basis. I haven't used Virtuous since I got the phone in October, so I'm sure there's more stuff on it now than before, but I'm definitely a Cyanogenmod kind of guy. Plus there are roms based off Cyanogen, like Mexdroid, that add all kinds of pretty and additional functionality that I like.

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but what's the point in having a Sense rom when you don't use the Sense launcher?
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The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.

For a daily, I would pick CM7 since it's quick and I'm pretty much guaranteed a full day of usage no matter what.
Virtuous, Sense, is nice and all, but the lag is a deal breaker for me. The only perks I see from Sense is the refined UI and better FaceBook integration, other than that, I don't really need it. And the battery life on Sense roms seems to be half of what I get on CM7.
CM7, stock android, is catching up though, with Gingerbread the UI has been given a cleaner look and my contacts do sync with FaceBook, but every now and then I'll have a duplicate contact, which in Sense it would allow me to link the two together. The only problem I would see with CM7 would be all of the customization options. I'd say that I'm an above average Android user, but all of the options I have available to me to customize the phone look is a bit overwhelming, in my opinion. It takes me a good hour or two to get the phone set up in a way I prefer, whereas Sense kind of has it's settings put in such a way that creates a better user experience.
So as I said before, CM7 would be my preferred ROM since when I do get it set up the way I want, the phone is easy to use and everything is quickly accessible to me. Virtuous, as nice as it is, is just a bit too slow and too much of a battery drainer for me to use it every day.

redpoint73 said:
The HTC camera app is far better than on CM, and the camera button does not lag like it does on CM. And I'm not completely sure about this (and haven't really seen it discussed here much), but it seems the Sense based ROMs have more/better hardware codecs for playback of a wider variety of videos without lag or sync issues. Also, the Sense fastboot feature is pretty nice if you have to turn off/on your phone frequently (which I do, due to frequent air travel).
I haven't given the latest and greatest CM7 versions a test drive yet, but I tried RC1 and RC2, and there were still enough bugs (GPS, video camera playback) to turn me off. I might wait until Gingerbread is officially released for our hardware before trying a GB ROM again.
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So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL

Bloodlvst said:
As a side note, can anyone tell me if CM has some sort of Facebook-to-Contact link like Sense? And if so, is it actually nice and doesn't load my entire phone app full of people I will never ever call? LoL
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There is an app called contapps or something like that on market that has similar facebook to contact integration.
Speed = CM or CM based (GingerVillian)
Ease of use = Sense based (Virtuous)
It is really boiling down to personal preference. I did find myself jumping between AOSP and Sense before but could never really shake my love for Sense. The slight bloat and 0.001% lag that i experience is a good price to pay . I hope you find the rom that fits you, whatever that may be
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Bloodlvst said:
So what about using CM6? Isn't that a Froyo build?
If so, is it just lacking in features compared to the Gingerbread builds?
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Yep, pretty much. CM6 is very stable. But for me, if you're going to go Froyo, you may as well go Sense. I like the extra features, and you can use an alternative launcher, since the lag on the Sense ROMs is mostly when using the stock launcher, IMO. And I didn't seem to experience any worse battery life with Sense ROMs versus CM7, like a previous user mentioned. But I didn't stay on CM6 long enough to compare battery life. Plus, the theming aesthetics of the Sense ROM and Gingerbread are nicer than Froyo, in my personal taste.

Actually there is also a sense gingerbread out accurately named 'senseginger' made by teamvillain aswell. It is very good. It is the middleground of froyo sense and stock gingerbread.
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CM is a lot smoother and simple.
The sense part on Virtuous takes up toooo much memory and slows the phone down, but the widgets are nice.

Android always comes down to user preference. You want a suggestion? Try both. And give it a good week. Even if you HATE it at first, give it a good while before deciding against it. You may find that once little aspect that will keep you from ever changing.

Me personally, I like CM7 over any sense based rom hands down. With the new gingerbread based cm7 I can easily link all of my facebook contacts with the ones in my contact list. If at first the picture doesn't show up, make sure you have the facebook app to sync all and then just long press your contact and join it to the facebook one. Boom, instant gratification. I personally rely on my ram being free, and the ability to overclock smoothly for playing ps one emulators. SetCpu has been known to cause glitches in cm7 for underclocking or overclocking too much, but as long as you do a minimal amount of research for your setup, it is easily avoided. As some others previously stated, it's all dependant on your preference and what you use your phone for. Try them both for a week at least, then decide, that's the best advice I could give
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My first experience with a ROM was CM7 RC1-4 and a few days ago I was bored and installed Virtuous and it's not bad but I definitely prefer CM7, it's way faster and smoother. The main reason I got the G2 was because it's Vanilla Android and CM7 has it all!
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Main question: do you like Sense or no? I've tried miui, virtuous, gb sense, etc. I always go back to cm7. Just smoother.
Virtuous (and all sense roms I've tried) send blurry MMSs as well.
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I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!

mattew83 said:
I like sense so i have virtuos, cm7 has too many bugs for me, maybe the last release is better!
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What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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joe3681 said:
What kind of bugs? I haven't found any.
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On Camcorder, taking a video landscape, then trying to playback in portrait mode results in the screen showing white and blue lines. Same with taking the video in portrait and trying to playback while in landscape mode.
Also, there is a Gmail margin problem. And there is a decent amount of people with non-GPS (although probably most CM users are fine on this).
But similar to the previous response, I have not tried the more recent CM releases, to see if these were fixed.

As others have said, it comes down to personal preferences. I've come to like Sense recently and am really liking the amazing standby times I've been getting with Virtuous, so I'm sticking with that for a bit. After a couple releases I may look into CM7 again, though, since I miss the customizable automatic brightness levels it has (a little feature that is a big deal to me).

Which is your preference

So far I have tried CM7 and Nils Business Sense and I'm conflicted.
I really like the new Sense 2 UI that comes with Nils Business Sense, but I also like the speed from Android 2.3 from CM7.
Hard to decide which to stay with.

I've only used one ROM, and that's CM7. While I like Sense, I really like CM7's lack of it.

nmg72 said:
So far I have tried CM7 and Nils Business Sense and I'm conflicted.
I really like the new Sense 2 UI that comes with Nils Business Sense, but I also like the speed from Android 2.3 from CM7.
Hard to decide which to stay with.
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I'm between CM7 stable and Skyraider 3.5
Once Skyraider 4 drops I'll make a decision on which to stick with. I just flashed CM7 again earlier today, but I'll probably flash back tomorrow.

I'm a big CM7 fan. I view Android 2.3.3 more important than sense.

Warm z twopointtwo all the way. The appearance of 2.3 with sense 2.0 and a very well done UI. Give the newest nightly a shot....it may not be your cup if tea but I bet if you tried it you'd love it
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Its a tough call. I happen to like the sense interface and widgets but there are parts of gingerbread and cm7 settings that are really awesome as well. Rocking cm right now but I too will likely flash skyraider 4.0 and I am quite a fan of warm z as well.
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CM7 fan here...
I used to be a huge fan of skyraider. Was my goto ROM for several months. I then tried MIUI (great ROM... just not a fan of the UI), and a few others. I settled with warm 2.2. I used that ROM for quite some time and really liked it as well.
I eventually made my way to CM7 and have been using it for roughly two months now. Very stable and getting great battery life (you can see my config below). I've learned to significantly customize the UI and notification bar and have been very happy thus far.
I may try SR 4.0 or Myn's Z ROM... we'll see. The only thing constant with my phone is change
Happy Flashing

+1 for warm z 2point2. I had used skyraider 3.5 for a long time and am loving 2point2. I tried cm7 and it just wasn't for me...havent tried nils yet.

Nils new update is working fantastic for me!
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It depends what you value most. For me, battery life was a very major part in my decision- probably the most important.
CM7 with chad's kernel and a bit of underclock has some crazy good battery life, you probably already know that though.
To be honest I don't know why this is a post because it just comes down to preference
Nils is a great developer and very active on fixing any bugs or problems with his ROM's. If you shout him a change or something you'd like to see there's a real possibility you may see it in the next release.

I started out with Virtuous, switched onto Skyraider Athena, and now CM7.
I really enjoyed the sense aspect of everything, specifically the dialer and fb connectivity... other than that I didn't care much.
Then I switched to Athena, it was the best of both worlds, dash of sense, pinch of vanilla. basically was vanilla with the exception of dialer and the aforementioned.
Now on CM7 I decided to jump ship and go full vanilla, and it's awesome. The sheer amount of customization within the ROM (including all the themes) is just awesome, and I don't think I'd switch to anything else.

I had CM7 on mine for like 2 days and it ran great and then started to get really slow and stupid on me so I flashed back to Incredibly Re-Engineered 2.4. Over the past month I've grown to love sense (had an og droid for a year), but absolutely hate the dock thing for it. I wish I could have all the sense features but use a dock like ADW's.

My biggest gripe with the aosp roms was having to use a different lockscreen. I got so used to not even looking at my phone to unlock it, but cm7 has me covered there as you can choose from several lockscreens in the settings. The only other thing I really missed was the messaging widget but I was able to add a shortcut to the messaging app to my lockscreen slider so it's even easier to check my texts. I was only ever truly happy with Lou's redemptive revolution before cm7 came around.
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Looking for a new ROM, been using Redemption 2.4 nothing else comes close....

Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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AlmostTactful said:
Hey everyone. So I've been using the Redemption ROMs now for quite sometime. I've been looking lately for another ROM as I want to try something a but different but nothing seems to come close in means of speed and battery life. I tried CM7, Sky Raider, a leaked GB, and another that I forget the name and none of them compare to this ROM. Has anyone else found a better ROM than Redemption? Mainly I would like the ability to overclock as well as Sense 3.0, if that combination is even possible.
Thanks in advance, AT
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That combination isn't possible yet due to the fact that kernel codes aren't released for the leaked kernel. No overclocking yet my friend on 3.0.
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Try incredibly reengineered, not the Z one.
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Awesome, looking at it now. Question though...since I'm under 10 posts I can't ask him there. Is the 2.4 version downoad link broken for you guys? The latest I can get is the 2.3.1

Last I recall, the download was hosted elsewhere, idk where.
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Yea its hosted at The Mik Mik which is down due to upgrades. I've been using IR 2.3 and 2.4 since I got my incredible back in March but I've recently moved on to the gingersense roms since theyre blazing fast but theyre battery hogs.

I used Redemptive Revolution for a long time, but the interface got old. I started trying the Z roms like WarmZ which I liked a lot. But WarmZ had some stability issues, and a buddy kept talking about his contract being up and getting the Evo 3D. So I started trying Sense 3.0... the Uber Kingdom rom. It looks wonderful, and I'm quite happy with that, but it's definitely not terribly solid yet. It does seem stable, but some stuff is just not working (settings for some apps like weather freeze and FC, text not visible on e-mail widget, etc).
I would follow its progress, as there's only a few spotty issues I've noticed, and the updated interface with Sense 3.0 is really quite nice.

There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.

What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.

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What is the channel? I've been interested in MIUI, but I haven't left CM yet.
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just flashed MIUI its absolutely amazing, ive done cyan, ultimate droid, liquid light, incredibly reengineered z and others MIUI is my fave now then re engineered z

Vote for MIUI as well. I try to go back to other roms, but the really stable ones (SR4, Magnolia, Redemption) are just boring and outdated. Sense 1.0 is boring. Then when I want to try a newer Sense rom, they're either battery hogs (I'm looking at you, GingerSense roms) or slow and laggy (Sense 3.0 roms). Then I go to CM7 and have no issues, but it just doesn't compare to MIUI. MIUI is speedy, and the stock applications (normally I replace them with Go SMS pro, or alternate cameras etc) are amazing. The theme support is amazing. I don't even use the stock launcher (too iPhone-y for me), but with LPP, it truly is an awesome rom.
If you're out to try a new rom, give MIUI a try!

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There's always MIUI. It's still in beta, so but is updated weekly. If you're interested head over to http://www.miui.us and check it out. It's what I use and have used for as long as I can remember. I've tried other roms, flashed two today, and yet I keep restoring MIUI within a matter of a couple hours.
Hop on IRC (link at the top of the page), plenty of people around to help out if there's a need for it.
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Best ROMs for the DINC (I really have tried them all for a at least 4 days each):
Froyo = Sky Raider 4.0 - This one Rocks, and I would love to see it on a GB Platform with Sense 2.0
GB = MIUI - I don't always use (or like) the Mac-like stock MIUI Launcher, but you can use both ADW-ex and Launcher Pro to make it very Sense-like. This ROM makes the DINC last 28 hours with moderate-to-heavy use. It is solid and I have yet to force a reboot. I tried it overclocked, and that does tend to make it FC, but you really don't need to OC it to make it silky smooth. I ran this rom against a Thunderbolt in the Best Buy store, and it beat it in almost every category (screen transitions, app opening/closing, market searches, and even web browsing - what even web-browsing you say? - yes - even web browsing). The rep was scratching his head regarding the web-browsing, but we tried it against a few other phones, and the only one close was a DroidX not the X2 running Gingerbread (from one of the other customers).
My one complaint with all the GB roms is the crappy stock email client with no search functionality (I use Exchange), so I'm waiting with baited breath for a Sense-base GB rom.
Does anyone know if the new Gingerbread with Sense running on the EVO has a better email client than the stock GB mail client (which bites)? I use SkyRaider 4 with Sense 2 on the Froyo platform, but MIUI on the GB platform with LauncherPro to make it as Sense-like as possible. Since the GB mail client neglected the 'Search' functionality, I had to buy the Enhanced Mail client (I'm and Exchange user), but there is no scrolling widget for this. A Sense-based GB rom with a Sense-based mail client would solve all my problems. Bottom line, has anyone seen the Sense Mail client on the new GB-based EVO?

get yourself some miui gingerbread! best thing ive run across. put it on the new tiamat sbc kernel and youll have a fast ass phone thatll last all day

I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly

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I'm on the Uber Kingdom rom. Still a little rough around the edges, but keep in mind, these sense 3.0 roms are still very young. Give it a few months, now that summer is coming up I'm sure the developers will have a lot more time on their hands to get these running flawlessly
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Me and incubus and nytergae are going to blow your minds dudring the summer

Just revisited the list of DINC roms on XDA
Just went back to the updated list of roms for the DINC
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=638)
There are a number of GB Sense roms listed that I'm kicking myself for missing. I'll start trying these out and report back. One question about these roms:
Q - Assuming that all these new roms come with their own Kernel, are there any recommended GB with Sense 2/3 kernels for OC, battery life and undervoltage?

Please report any feedback on the new GB Sense ROMs
We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?

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We have one report back on the Uber Kingdom (rough around the edges), so does anyone else have any 100% stable everything working correctly GB Sense 1/2/3 roms working on the DINC?
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Checkout Nils' Business Gingersense:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104883

Now running Kingdom Stock Gingersense
Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.

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Since they won't let me post on the XDA-Dev forums yet (not sure why not because I have 10 posts now), I'm posting here to see if anyone knows when the Weather app is going to be fixed. The Weather app works fine, except that every day is listed as Sunday. This Kingdom Stock GingerSense is running very well with no problems yet. The Sense 3 UI is very smooth and fast.
I am going to give Nils Business Gingersense a try now to see if there are any cool Rosie mods. I like having a few more than a 3 button dock that comes with the Sense UI.
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I don't mean this to be a threadjack, but I wanted to go into details about my experience with Uber Kingdom.
I tried PMing Joel, but I can't post yet in the dev forum either. (what a lame new user restriction) My biggest issue with Uber Kingdom is the HTC mail widget. The font on the widget is not visible. When you click on a row, you go to a specific mail and inside the app, it reads fine, but the widget itself doesn't display text, which is quite annoying.
Otherwise, as I said earlier, I'm quite happy with the performance, the interface, etc.
Another few things I'd ideally like to tweak is the stupid theme button on the bottom launcher to be a different button. Once you set up your theme it isn't something you change often enough to need it to be so prominent. (also long clicking on the desktop accomplished the same thing, so it really isn't necessary at all) Normally on the roms I've used, rosie settings, or flashable zips let me set it to settings. I'd like to find a way to do that.
I also like seeing numbers on my battery indicator, which Uber kingdom doesn't.
I would also prefer not showing a statusbar indication that GPS ISN'T enabled. It not being there is enough for me.
Otherwise, seems stable for the passed few days, all the apps I've tried are working. Text Messsages failed to restore from titanium from 2 to 4... but I'm not sure why. They restored from WarmZ to Uber Kingdom 2.