AOSP...WTH is that? - EVO 4G General

Well I know what it is, best thing to ever have on my htc hero when I owned one. But now it seems like AOSP is almost non existant on here. I love AOSP, and I love sense. There both awesome IMO. I would stick with AOSP if it had reflow capability. But seriously....what happened to the huge AOSP fanbase? Sense 3.0...the new AOSP.
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Users are addicted to the Eye Crack.. ie Sense 3.x

IMO miui has more eye candy than sense 3.x
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in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
im bact to sense now, nocturnals stock rom but rooted with all bloat removed. i forgot how fast and responsive my phone could be!
needless to say im happy to be back to sense

i keep sense and AOSP booted. I like the functionality and lightness of AOSP, but there are couple little things on sense that I like as well. Cameras, calendar, and weather primarily, but when I don't feel like charging my battery every 6 hours, I switch back to salvagemod or MIUI.

Toney Starks said:
in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
im bact to sense now, nocturnals stock rom but rooted with all bloat removed. i forgot how fast and responsive my phone could be!
needless to say im happy to be back to sense
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Toney Starks said:
in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
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I hope by "functional" you mean out of the box. There is almost nothing you can do with Sense that you can't do with AOSP. It may require some tweaking to get it the way you want, but you can do anything you want with AOSP and, as a general rule, it is much faster than Sense.

I believe in the last couple week I have been through and checked out over a dozen ROMs. I love the speed of aosp roms but I keep coming back to sense because there are some functions and widgets I do like that I just cannot get. I normally get 24 hours on average for a single charge on any sense rom after playing with kernels and battery tweaks. Both are great. Just depends on my mood and how often I want change.

kf2m said:
Users are addicted to the Eye Crack.. ie Sense 3.x
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Nailed it! Sense 3.x is new but still hogs system memory and cpu. If I want a Sense ROM I go back to stock rooted ROMs. None of this 3.x stuff. I use LauncherPro+ anyway, so the eye "crack" is useless.
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IMO miui has more eye candy than sense 3.x
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I agree, but it is missing 4G, which is why I haven't made it more than a day using it. :-(
Toney Starks said:
in all honesty sense is much more functional than aosp, when choosing asop over sense, the tradeoffs are wayyy to much and this is coming from someone who who used to go hard with cyanogen, decks, and salvage.
im bact to sense now, nocturnals stock rom but rooted with all bloat removed. i forgot how fast and responsive my phone could be!
needless to say im happy to be back to sense
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I go back an forth between Sense stock and DecksGB. I also like the stability with stock Sense ROMs, but hate the way it looks. I found that Deck got it right with his AOSP ROM.
I am sure AOSP ROMs will start showing up again once Ice Cream Sandwich makes its way out.

AirborneCmH said:
I believe in the last couple week I have been through and checked out over a dozen ROMs. I love the speed of aosp roms but I keep coming back to sense because there are some functions and widgets I do like that I just cannot get. I normally get 24 hours on average for a single charge on any sense rom after playing with kernels and battery tweaks. Both are great. Just depends on my mood and how often I want change.
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What functions and Widgets are you talking about? You can pretty much replicate sense just from simply searching on the market.

roids87 said:
What functions and Widgets are you talking about? You can pretty much replicate sense just from simply searching on the market.
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I agree..and I'll admit that sense has it's pros but it's so bland. Even the themes r stale. Not to knock on the hard work that the devs put in on all things sense, but customization goes right out the window... I've gone through all and will always stick with aosp. I use WL and launcherpro/golauncher and it's beautiful. My fone will never look like anyone else's.
nobody calls my EVO a fizzle and gets away with it!!

I keep MikG sense and
MIUI aosp NADROID on my SD card
I just get beeter battery life on aosp with tiamat sbc kernels.
But when i travel to a 4G city I nandroid to MikG
But it seems the choices have been whittled down since the gingerbread update.
Decks,salvage Zen,Cmod, and MIUI
MikG, Virus,Fresh,,synergy.
unless you want to be on a dead ROM.
Here is a good page to check rom updates...
http://evo4g.roms-db.com/
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Always have and probably always will hate sense. I run Miui or Evo Deck exclusively.
My next phone will likely be a Nexus S, even though I love htc phones.

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[NOOB "guidance" from FREQUENT FLASHERS]¤*Best ROM* ¤

Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
Edit: "Frequent flaher" I like that term and I'm sure it applies to a lot of people posting in this thread.
Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
ive flashed alot of sense and about all of the gingerbread roms. the gingerbreads are fast, but too high maintenance for me. sure some will say that its stable for them but 8 out of 10 in the cm threads are trying to work out bugs.
theres also a lot of fast and fully functional sense roms highly themed. depends on what the end user whants out of their rom, functionality, look, batt, etc..
i like a bare bones stock sleek looking optimized preferably lightly themed rom. thats why im currently running Miks 4.6b2 ODEXED themed by Chogardjr. i removed all of the useless stuff, its faast, rock solid stable, great battery life and everything works. IMHO!
I have used almost every setup there is, and most are pretty good, except they all have an issue or 2 that makes me feel incomplete when it comes to my phone.
Sense Roms: King's Ultra Froyo and Ultra Froyo 2, Koni's Elite 1 and Elite 2. ALL of those are pretty equal. Very fast, smooth, beautiful looking, but no matter what kernel I tried, battery life was garbage. One thing about my phone is I tried almost every NetArchy Kernel there is, I bet, and never got a good battery on a Sense ROM.
Miui: I can see why people like it, but I just don't like having all my apps on the desktop and switching to LPP takes away part of the allure of havng Miui. The theme changer wouldn't install any of the themes I downloaded. Plus, I had issues with screen flicker, but I understand I did the update wrong, so that may be where that came from. Also, I spent over an hour alphabetizing my apps... damn OCD!
CM7: By FAR the best battery life, with the kernel I use, SavagedZen 009, but the GPS navigation thing is an issue. I take my phone off the charger at 6AM, and by 11PM, after moderate to heavy use, I'm never below 50%. Still, I want those Sense Widgets. LPP has them, but in People, for instance, you don't get the user pics from Facebook, and all the entries are just the stock Android image. One other thing on CM7, that is intolerable, is that it takes a coon's age to copy anything to my SDCard. I did a back up, and reformat the other night and it took an hour and a half to copy my music back (just under a gig), for example
Right now, I'm running Destroyer, and the battery isn't as good as with nightly 14, but it's pretty good. BEtter than with any of the others I've tried. And whatever issues people have with this, I'm not having them. Everything is working good. Very fast, too.
For me, the best, most complete ROM there is, is VaelPak 3.2. It has everything you want. Almost like all the different Mods were combined to make one insane ROM. More custumization options than CM/Sense and MiUi put together, puls packs of goodies that come with the ROM installed on the SDCard. I can't remember why I took it off now, but I think it was the battery life, again, was horrible. Dropped 15% in less than 2 hours with the stock kernel. Although, I didn't keep it on long enough to really test other kernels with it, and there are a few that people using it say give them fanatastic battery life.
I love my CM7 nightlies. Nuff said!!!!!! <3
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Firstly, I want to say that I am doing this just to get everyone's own personal view on which EVO ROM is the best. Before I get all kinds of hateful posts just hear me out. I want to know what you think from your own personal point of view and why you think it's the best. For those who switch ROMs daily, post and tell some pros and cons of each maybe. Tell me why you like it, what you like about it, which of your needs it meets, which it doesn't. And so on!!! I think this could be a good thread for the noobs to learn different things about different kinds of ROMs and what the different ones have to offer. Thank you XDA community!!!!!
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still waiting for the best...
i like warm z.. but it dont have hdmi and 4G. ffc can be worked around.
what dont you give your thoughts???
Well I just started flashing ROMs about 9 months ago and started a basically sense roms. I didn't really like them bc of limited customization and they were a little slow and battery was horrible. From there I stuck with an AOSP rom for about the past 6 months until a few weeks ago and read up a little on MIUI and tried that out for a whole 6 hours and hated it. I couldn't stand all my apps on the screen and no drawer. Really got on my nerves. Then tried out that Unleashed and was happy with that for about a week til I really started doing some reading up on CM and decided to try it out, loved it and everything about it. So now I'm a supporter of them, but am super stoked to try out this new SZ ROM. Think that might be the new rom of choice for me.
Edit: That good Dan?
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^^^ that will work...
Not sure why anyone hasn't said this yet but Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 5 is the best in my opinion. Might not have been updated in a while, but in my experience is the fastest Sense rom with lots of eye candy while still looking sleek/professional without going overboard, the best battery life (16 hours heavy use 30 with light use/good signal), and everything works. I know that AOSP roms have wimax now but gps has been hit and miss with every one of them (for gingerbread at least, I don't care for any 2.2 AOSP roms). Navigation definitely did not work.
I loved Evervolv and Savage but again, not everything works the way it should. Myn's is just the best daily driver. Battery life is phenomenal, I haven't been able to get more than 16-20 hours out of an aosp rom.
IMO (never h):
All the Sense ROMs are the same. They are just the same stock ROM with some heavy theming and maybe a custom tweak here and there ... but IMO if you're going to flash sense you're better off just checking the themes section and getting the look you want... because that's what they are.
Also keep in mind that Sense is likely a dead end as it is. I have doubts 2.3 will ever land on EVO .from HTC/Sprint... meaning it will never come to fruition in any Sense ROM. So it's a dead-end thing to support anyway.
AOSP is a different story. These are truly custom, already ahead of Sense if you're a version buff (2.3.3) and tend to run faster, smoother, and with A LOT less bloat. That said they aren't all flowers and rainbows either. Because they are actually scratch written they tend to not be feature complete (though team WIN is quickly changing that) so make sure you know what feature is missing and if that's a big deal to you.
That said, CM is the AOSP leader. It has the dev support, and most AOSP ROMs you'll notice are based on CM because they are nice enough to release under GPL rather than the default Apache agreement most others use. I like it for what it is, and it's the "best" if you like vanilla Android and want to follow what Google is doing with thier OS.
The other "best" IMO MIUI. It's behind CM in terms of the latest Android base (though GB is finally in the works), and it's closed source so it is missing things available in other AOSP ROMS ... but what it does bring to the table is amazing. It's better in battery, faster, the built in apps are worth paying for if they ever make it to market ... its an amazing ROM.
I secretly have wet dreams of MIUI and CM having an Android love child and bringing me my dream ROM ... until then I flip back and forth between the two.
I'm running a special rom called "dirk diggler rom" and if you want to use it deposit 500 bucks in my PayPal . P.S its better than any rom YOU will ever run on your evo lol.
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^^^^^ uhmmm, nah. Can't be too much different than anything else on here. Pretty funny though. Ha
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The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
dynamicpda said:
The answer depends on your needs. For instance, I don't like the look of Sense but I also need 4G, GPS, Bluetooth and Camera working everyday. That limits me to a Sense based rom until CM7 stabilizes those things. For now, I'm getting by pretty well with Nonsense. It's not been updated recently and has minor flaws but the important things work for me everyday.
No one ROM does everything well. It's all about trade-offs. When you know your own needs, the filtering the choices should be a lot easier.
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Check my signature.
All those things work on my setup.
jstalford said:
Destroyer is awesome. Very fast and awesome theming. VaelPak is also really good b/c it's so unique and customizable. IMHO, if you're new to flashing, you need to try, CM or variant of, Miui, VaelPak, and a Z ROM (MikZ or Warm Z).
For sense ROMs, Unleashed is really good. Very fast/smooth and awesome theme options. Best sense ROM IMHO. MikFroyo is also very fast. I can get good battery life out of almost any ROM, but EViO 2 stands out in that area.
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+1 on destroyer buddy! and its very stable!
In my experience with cm7 at least, scrolling in the browser and touch response has lagged for me compared to sense. Savage and evervolv seemed to be better but nothing comes close to the responsiveness using myns warm
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I am currently using CM7 but looking for a sense 2.0 rom - any help?
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imho
been using mik4.5 w/4.1.9 sbc all works get 16 hours a day with everything on updates every hour,fps 54. love it
Tried miui and cant live w/o sense.
Heres my thing, all the sense based roms are pretty much the same just different icons(themes), but if I have to flash abunch of stuff just to make a rom work right, I'm out
Sense rom = Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5
stable, fast, and it works...
AOSP rom = Ultimate Droid
http://www.udrom.com/forum/
Also stable, fast and completely working Gingerbread for the EVO and several other phones...
What is the best one running or able to wifi tether...I was using fresh and decided for a new look...since I been away I decided on CM7 but I discovered wifi is not working???....Anyone???
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Sense roms

Why do people like sense roms, the only reason I like them is for the sense clock but fancy widget pro has a clone of it which I like better.
For me sense feals more polished
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Because HTC made a great UI .
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Personally, I've enjoyed the Sense UI since launch day. It's more polished than the stock version and that's all I need to be content.
Customizing your phone might be the way you want to go, but the time put into just using Sense vs finding your own blend isn't for me.
To me miui is the most polished and stable and with fancy widget pro its perfect.
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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abanh said:
Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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And THAT is why I (and probably a lot more people) love sense, they have the best integration with facebook, and the slick polished UI and other widgets are great also too
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Why do people like sense roms, the only reason I like them is for the sense clock but fancy widget pro has a clone of it which I like better.
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I "like" AOSP roms but EVERY one has issues. All the CM based ones have wake issues with screen and calls I have tried everything. Sensors dont respond as quick. Take the phone away from you face with an AOSP rom and a sense rom you will see what I mean, the list goes on. The reaction of the Prox sensor is night and day. The best AOSP I have found is MIUI. I have tryed them all and give props to them ALL but I hate to admit it overall function on my EVO is best with a Sense Based Rom. And GB has nothing so far that makes me get all giddy.
VaelPak 3.2
LP
Fancy Widgets
4.3.2-cfs-sbc-havs-more
Best overall combo I have found
Just my 2 pennies
lovespancakes96 said:
To me miui is the most polished and stable and with fancy widget pro its perfect.
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Except its missing HDMI and 4G. Soo... its not really as polished. And saying you don't care about those features answers your own question as to why people like sense UI... doesn't it?
Personal preference? I like my 4G and HDMI... so obviously, I'm going to stick with something that have them..
In 1943 I killed a hobo.
Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
HipKat said:
Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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My battery lasts a full day with Myn 2.2 and the #15 Kernel. 19hrs overall time without a charge, 8hrs of Awake Time. Stock battery. Do I need it to last any longer? No. I unplugged it at 11am and it's now 6am. I'm about to go to bed..so I can plug it in until tomorrow.
I don't consider that.bad battery life, and 4G or wifi has been on all day. Actually. Every AOSP Tom I've flashed has been about the same. (Factoring in the lack of 4G.) *shrug*
You're one of the lucky ones, because I tried so many Sense ROMS/Kernel combos, and my battery was terrible.
for me facebook contact sync never works correctly on asop, it always imports all my contacts even if it's set to just merge with exsisting contacts. also, the asop cameras i've used didn't have touch to focus, and I could never make youtube video sharing work from the gallery. for me, asop battery life has sucked compared to sense.
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HipKat said:
Maybe people just like crappy battery life???
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Battery life is about the same between sense and aosp roms if battery stats are properly calibrated when switching between the two. I rarely had to watch for wake lock issues on a sense rom though.
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I like sense for a stable option with a lot of nice bells and whistles. Works reliable and does what I need with out much alteration or thought. However, I also have a backup with ADW EX with Calk's remove sense, which is also great because it does keep quite a bit of the sense options like the camera and a bunch of the HTC apps. Then, I use CM7 for fun and playing around, but i do miss the stability, ease and reliability of sense after a day or two, and flash back. I have my ADW EX backup looking exactly like CM7 minus the screen off animation so it feels similar.
My battery life blows with CM7 too. Can't figure it out at all.
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Contact and calendar integration with Facebook is much better on Sense than aosp Android.
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bronxknight28 said:
And THAT is why I (and probably a lot more people) love sense, they have the best integration with facebook, and the slick polished UI and other widgets are great also too
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My battery lasts a full day with Myn 2.2 and the #15 Kernel. 19hrs overall time without a charge, 8hrs of Awake Time. Stock battery.
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I'm not a fan of the "look" of stock sense, but as a base for others to redesign, i love it's functionality, integration, and I too get great batt life, at least a day+.
coming from the Hero, where every bit of performance you could squeeze from it was needed, I could appreciate the AOSPs and CMs, but (so far) with the Evo, have not needed to.
Actually, the best of both worlds is probably VaelPak. I might give that run again for a bit, even though I'm loving Destroyer.
I'll tell u why OPINION everyone has their own just so you know
I still haven't seen any real world proof that AOSP rom's are faster than an optimized Sense rom like Mik or Myn's. So the question is why would anyone not want Sense since you get a lot of extra stuff, its more stable and more polished.
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I still haven't seen any real world proof that AOSP rom's are faster than an optimized Sense rom like Mik or Myn's. So the question is why would anyone not want Sense since you get a lot of extra stuff, its more stable and more polished.
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depends on what you mean by "proof", I am under the impression that benchmarks are "better" (I gotz moar Mflopz bro!!1!!) under AOSPs...? (can't be assed to find proof right this sec)
but i dont think any (or little) of that translates to user experience. perhaps the exception being some "heavy" apps will be smoother under AOSP.
I hated Sense on the Hero. but thats because the Hero was slow to begin with, and AOSP/CM was it's savior. Not needed (IMHO) on the Evo.

Which is your preference

So far I have tried CM7 and Nils Business Sense and I'm conflicted.
I really like the new Sense 2 UI that comes with Nils Business Sense, but I also like the speed from Android 2.3 from CM7.
Hard to decide which to stay with.
I've only used one ROM, and that's CM7. While I like Sense, I really like CM7's lack of it.
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So far I have tried CM7 and Nils Business Sense and I'm conflicted.
I really like the new Sense 2 UI that comes with Nils Business Sense, but I also like the speed from Android 2.3 from CM7.
Hard to decide which to stay with.
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I'm between CM7 stable and Skyraider 3.5
Once Skyraider 4 drops I'll make a decision on which to stick with. I just flashed CM7 again earlier today, but I'll probably flash back tomorrow.
I'm a big CM7 fan. I view Android 2.3.3 more important than sense.
Warm z twopointtwo all the way. The appearance of 2.3 with sense 2.0 and a very well done UI. Give the newest nightly a shot....it may not be your cup if tea but I bet if you tried it you'd love it
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Its a tough call. I happen to like the sense interface and widgets but there are parts of gingerbread and cm7 settings that are really awesome as well. Rocking cm right now but I too will likely flash skyraider 4.0 and I am quite a fan of warm z as well.
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CM7 fan here...
I used to be a huge fan of skyraider. Was my goto ROM for several months. I then tried MIUI (great ROM... just not a fan of the UI), and a few others. I settled with warm 2.2. I used that ROM for quite some time and really liked it as well.
I eventually made my way to CM7 and have been using it for roughly two months now. Very stable and getting great battery life (you can see my config below). I've learned to significantly customize the UI and notification bar and have been very happy thus far.
I may try SR 4.0 or Myn's Z ROM... we'll see. The only thing constant with my phone is change
Happy Flashing
+1 for warm z 2point2. I had used skyraider 3.5 for a long time and am loving 2point2. I tried cm7 and it just wasn't for me...havent tried nils yet.
Nils new update is working fantastic for me!
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It depends what you value most. For me, battery life was a very major part in my decision- probably the most important.
CM7 with chad's kernel and a bit of underclock has some crazy good battery life, you probably already know that though.
To be honest I don't know why this is a post because it just comes down to preference
Nils is a great developer and very active on fixing any bugs or problems with his ROM's. If you shout him a change or something you'd like to see there's a real possibility you may see it in the next release.
I started out with Virtuous, switched onto Skyraider Athena, and now CM7.
I really enjoyed the sense aspect of everything, specifically the dialer and fb connectivity... other than that I didn't care much.
Then I switched to Athena, it was the best of both worlds, dash of sense, pinch of vanilla. basically was vanilla with the exception of dialer and the aforementioned.
Now on CM7 I decided to jump ship and go full vanilla, and it's awesome. The sheer amount of customization within the ROM (including all the themes) is just awesome, and I don't think I'd switch to anything else.
I had CM7 on mine for like 2 days and it ran great and then started to get really slow and stupid on me so I flashed back to Incredibly Re-Engineered 2.4. Over the past month I've grown to love sense (had an og droid for a year), but absolutely hate the dock thing for it. I wish I could have all the sense features but use a dock like ADW's.
My biggest gripe with the aosp roms was having to use a different lockscreen. I got so used to not even looking at my phone to unlock it, but cm7 has me covered there as you can choose from several lockscreens in the settings. The only other thing I really missed was the messaging widget but I was able to add a shortcut to the messaging app to my lockscreen slider so it's even easier to check my texts. I was only ever truly happy with Lou's redemptive revolution before cm7 came around.
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[Q] Can't Decide MIUI/SENSE/AOSP? :(

Hey guys if you dont know me I was a rom dev for the xperia but moved on to the DZ. HAven't yet made a rom for the DZ, yet.
But I have been flashing non-stop since i got this phone. Its just I can't decide what I should stick to, and what will match my needs.
So im a highschool student, calendars reminders are big for me and staying organized. I play basketball and watch it too so video and stuff is needed.
But Im also a dj/producer and i need the best sound. I also like to play games ocassionaly as well.
I really love Sense 3.0 but I cant handle the laggyness even with swap enabled, is there anything else that can be done? I was on virtuous 2.00 (sense 2.1) for 2 weeks it was stable and all, but the battery was pretty drainable fast. BlissBeatMod is promising if some of it can get less laggy. And we'll have to see what Virtuous Tretanique (Affinity) will go.
Aosp is nice and fast but I dont really get the nice looks and features that miui have to offer.
Miui is really nice im running BulletProof right now. But i still dont feel like its the "one". and the quality of music isnt as great on sense even with equalizer options on.
PLEASE TELL ME ANY SUGGESTIONS, ALL WILL BE APPRECIATED
i personally have ILWT CM7... fast yet battery efficient... plus, there's alot of themes you can add to it so it can be visually good too
btw, i saw your work man! you are LEGEND!! i encourage you to make a ROM for us!
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i personally have ILWT CM7... fast yet battery efficient... plus, there's alot of themes you can add to it so it can be visually good too
btw, i saw your work man! you are LEGEND!! i encourage you to make a ROM for us!
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Thanks a lot, once I decide what kind I will produce I will start.
Ok Im running ILWT. It is amazing. I put a theme on. Very fast. But still some reason it just seems "boring". And the sms app on aosp/cm7 isnt as sexy.
yea i know exactly where youre coming from, I always want a newer prettier ROM... I wish someone would release one that just didnt look like it was android almost, and not like iphone, or anything, something with an original GUI.. yes i realize that's a lot to ask btw and not something I would be able to do myself but I think it'd be cool and get a lot of support! In the mean time the one I've found to be the freshest for me is MIUI because of how the themes affect like everything and really the launcher is what catches my eye, im kinda excited for the ROU launcher
i used to use cm7 and miui before. cm7 is lightweight rom, smooth and has excellent battery life. but it is lack of killer feature such as in its sms functionality, the smart dialer and etc. of course you can always download apps from market for that functions but it takes forever to load those apps on startup.
so i moved to miui, which i am currently running with bulletproof miui rom. it is rich with functionality, ridiculously-convenient-built in-features and interfaces, but consume more battery compared to cm7 unless you made certain tweak on its OC/UC. but its interface lacks of originality because it is obviously a mimic of iOS. but so far i m happy using miui.
i want to try sense based rom, but from what i learned, sense based is laggy. i miss sense interface though. look clean.
OK, if you think cm7 is boring (and I agree) I suggest you give MexDroid a spin. It was my DD for quite some time. The only reason it's not anymore is because I found Bulletproof MIUI. but I'm sure you've already tried MIUI. if not. Tun4f1sh's Bulletproof is the ONLY one I recommend.
More options would be most welcome I'm sure. I'm trying to figure out how to port roms from hd forums at the moment. The collective's absolution looks pretty sweet.
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If you use bootmanager (market app) you can install sense / miui and cyanogen at the same time... Only thing you have to do is seeting up the phonerom as sense (miui and cyanogen based mods run very smooth booting from sdcard)
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hoffmas said:
If you use bootmanager (market app) you can install sense / miui and cyanogen at the same time... Only thing you have to do is seeting up the phonerom as sense (miui and cyanogen based mods run very smooth booting from sdcard)
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Neat, I like that idea. Kinda like having a nand backup without the pain of restoring everytime you want to switch.
I also champion Bulletproof, tun4 and tsubus seem to make sure this Rom stays a top contender. There is also talk of miXdroid Mod which is a miui meXdroid, looking forward to seeing how that one turns out
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Ya know what... forget what I said above, if this MixDroid thing happens I'll be happier than a /b/ troll.
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Neat, I like that idea. Kinda like having a nand backup without the pain of restoring everytime you want to switch.
I also champion Bulletproof, tun4 and tsubus seem to make sure this Rom stays a top contender. There is also talk of miXdroid Mod which is a miui meXdroid, looking forward to seeing how that one turns out
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MIUI is great, iv been runing Bulletproof, it's definitely unique miui whit its virtuos oc controller witch cough my eye. But now i got ICS fever on me, not for the isc gui but some of the features. I stumbled on Galnet MIUI whit ics framework. runing fine, tried it for couple days, and the batterylife seems fine, maybe. Ill stick to this since it seems to work, and hope for updates whit possibly some new ics features.(its still same MIUI ui and functionality)
after we get somewhat working ICS, i will try that a little, and propably get back to MIUI.
I'm on Bulletproof MIUI at the moment but since the iPhone-esque UI makes my eyes hurt I installed LPP and some icon pack (can't remember the name). That way I still have the looks of Android but can combine with the impressive speed and flow of the Bulletproof MIUI ROM.
CM 7.1 for me lacks a little bit of polish visually (can't wait for CM9!) compared to Sense based ROMs and IMO MIUI offers that. I like Sense but any Sense based ROM I've tried has started to get laggy on me after a while.
Bulletproof MIUI for the win...I also like good old Cyanogen too, but for a nice mix of speed AND looks MIUI is tops for me
Love the look of Sense, but too slow and laggy
Check my thread, i got a bunch of videos of roms and see which one you like the best
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19002986#post19002986
in this few days, i have been testing 3 sense 3.5 rom, beatmode, affinity and rcmix.
for someone who has a very sensitive sense like me, i cant stand to wait for the phone to response due to insufficient memory in sense 3.5.
its time to go back to miui bulletproof.
I have tried many of them. CM and MIUI is cool, I just miss too many features from sense. Sense 3.0 is either laggy or will get laggy after a while. So, I always go back to my Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 NAND backup.
But: question here: why is this draining the battery soooo badly? Apart from this, this could be THE perfect ROM.
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I have tried muiu, mexdroid, htc clay, g-lite, sense 2.0, unity sense and the affinity sense. I keep finding myself going back to the most stable, configurable and updated ROM ILWT CM7 (268).
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Sense is smooth and polished, but every custom Sense ROM that I have ever flashed is a battery hog, even the Sense 2.1 + 3.0 hybrids.
So my current favorite is G-lite 1.05 - it's like stock + overclocking + better than stock battery life (due to deep sleep)
I like sense and am currently running Virtuous Afinity but I can see me switching to an ASOP build of ICS when it's stable enough
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I have tried muiu, mexdroid, htc clay, g-lite, sense 2.0, unity sense and the affinity sense. I keep finding myself going back to the most stable, configurable and updated ROM ILWT CM7 (268).
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Curious to know what you like most about ILWT, especially compared with mexdroid and miui?

I think I've lost my appreciation for Sense as an interface.

Somewhere between getting stuck when coming back from an app and annoying keyboard issues within the messenger combined with the EOL status...
So what are the options people? I'm currently playing with Go Launcher and a Sense 4.0 theme, which oddly feels faster while being more customizable. I didn't care for the default Go Launcher theme it rubbed me wrong, probably the only part of Sense I still like is the icons and presentation of apps. Thinking about going to a rooted stock with custom kernel or a custom rom with custom kernel. I don't know, really confused right now
Dogan
Love the hardware, not loving the software.
My personal favorite launcher is GoLauncher over Sense. Both Supreme Sense XII and newSENSE are great ROMs but I know what you mean. Here's what I did recently on Supreme Sense XII.
Dogahn said:
Somewhere between getting stuck when coming back from an app and annoying keyboard issues within the messenger combined with the EOL status...
So what are the options people? I'm currently playing with Go Launcher and a Sense 4.0 theme, which oddly feels faster while being more customizable. I didn't care for the default Go Launcher theme it rubbed me wrong, probably the only part of Sense I still like is the icons and presentation of apps. Thinking about going to a rooted stock with custom kernel or a custom rom with custom kernel. I don't know, really confused right now
Dogan
Love the hardware, not loving the software.
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Well the Software is actually what gives you the Freedom to do whatever you want. It all depends on the combination of Rom, Kernel, and Mods you choose. Here are just a few Themes and Skins I've Ported, or helped with .
Wow Prboy1969 those are prety awesome! Is it possible to get the dock in the first pic on Sense 3.5 or 3.0?
Dogahn said:
Somewhere between getting stuck when coming back from an app and annoying keyboard issues within the messenger combined with the EOL status...
So what are the options people? I'm currently playing with Go Launcher and a Sense 4.0 theme, which oddly feels faster while being more customizable. I didn't care for the default Go Launcher theme it rubbed me wrong, probably the only part of Sense I still like is the icons and presentation of apps. Thinking about going to a rooted stock with custom kernel or a custom rom with custom kernel. I don't know, really confused right now
Dogan
Love the hardware, not loving the software.
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I lost my appreciation for sense as soon as I rooted and dove into CM7.
It came back a little bit for sense 4.0, but meh.
I thought I loved sense until I tried AOSP roms lol
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Wow prboy1969 those are pretty awesome! Is it possible to get the dock in the first pic on Sense 3.5 or 3.0?
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Sense 3.0 should be no issue. Sense 3.5 I have not tried yet.
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I lost my appreciation for sense as soon as I rooted and dove into CM7.
It came back a little bit for sense 4.0, but meh.
I thought I loved sense until I tried AOSP roms lol
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i liked some of the features in sense but sense overall just plain sucks and especially with the reloads everytime you go back to the homescreen.
recently ive been addicted to the ice cream sandwich builds coming out (AOKP has been running the best so far for me, with a few minor bugs like calls not coming through (but thats what texting is for LOL))
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i liked some of the features in sense but sense overall just plain sucks and especially with the reloads everytime you go back to the homescreen.
recently ive been addicted to the ice cream sandwich builds coming out (AOKP has been running the best so far for me, with a few minor bugs like calls not coming through (but thats what texting is for LOL))
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That's why we have choices. So everyone can be happy . Myself I'm a Sense kinda guy, cause it only makes Sense :cyclops: . But that being said, I've come across quite a few very good non-Sense Roms.
The email, messaging, and people apps are what mainly keep me on Sense. The way I use them only works in Sense. If the AOSP versions worked similarly I'd likely be useing something else. They're a lot easier to port.
Sense seems fairly bloated to me. I love how native Android ICS and JB have evolved and become more smooth and streamlined. I recommend checking out the ICS custom ROMs on this board (I'm on kushdeck's pb21 build still). I would like to try out preludedrew's new Evervolv JB ROM, but I get stuck in a boot loop after installing it
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Sense seems fairly bloated to me. I love how native Android ICS and JB have evolved and become more smooth and streamlined. I recommend checking out the ICS custom ROMs on this board (I'm on kushdeck's pb21 build still). I would like to try out preludedrew's new Evervolv JB ROM, but I get stuck in a boot loop after installing it
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That is kind of where I think I was going before trying another modded out ROM. Think I just want to try vanilla with a fancy kernel. Some things that I know I like and would like to keep, WiMax (even though I rarely use it, no use paying for it if I can't use it), Keyboard lights as I work a night shift I inevitably have to hit up the phone and keyboard at night and the elusive landscape mode. Think I might be stuck on gingerbread because of this but I'm gonna look around.
Is App2sd a kernel level function or does the UI need to recognize it too?
Dogan
Teetering on the brink of slapping together his own ROM?
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Is App2sd a kernel level function or does the UI need to recognize it too?
Dogan
Teetering on the brink of slapping together his own ROM?
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A2SD has to do with the Kernel, as it determines the Ext. But it also usually has to baked into the Rom. Then enabled after you flash. But you can use DarkTremors A2SD Script to add and enable it on most Roms that it's not baked into.
About your Sig. I say go for it.
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