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HTC TD2 freeze problem since WM6.5 upgrade

Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?

I'm having the same problems mate. My TD2 on 6.5 freezes spoaradically - I'd say at least twice a week, and the only solution is to remove the battery.
I've been trying to link the freeze with a particular program or app but the phone has frozen at varying times and in many cases whilst no apps are running!
I'm waiting for upgrade on my contract as I've had it with this TD2 and especially WinMo. I mean, how can WinMo store all saved words in SMS on RAM only for it to be wiped after every restart/soft reset?! Why? Argh!
I'm going for the Hero next, and see how nice Android plays!
Good luck with your query...
Mo

miker1892 said:
Since upgrading my TD2 to the official WM6.5 ROM issued by HTC I have had problems with the handset freezing; the only remedy has been to remove the battery and switch back on. At first I thought it was a hardware fault but a friend's phone has also started doing the same since he upgraded. This never happened previously and only happens every ten days or so.
Has anyone else experienced similar problems?
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Does it do this without the mem card installed?

Exactly the same is happening here and the same on my friend's TD2. We have never tried WM 6.1, the first step after purchasing the phone was to upgrade to stock WM 6.5 ROM.
I tried to disable the weather animation on home screen but this doesn't help. My friend has disabled HTC sense and his phone has not frozen after one week. We will have to wait another week or two to proof that this could be the solution.
I hope that Touch Flo is not the cause of this malfunction because WM6.5 UI is very ugly.
I don’t know if the mem card could cause this issue but using the phone without mem card is simply not an option for me. The phone memory is too limited.
My friend also raises this issue on HTC support but so far HTC is ignoring the problem. The only bright word from HTC support was that they will investigate this issue (after many words on how to flash, reflash and hard reset ...).
I really hope that the solution for this very inconvenience will be find out soon.

My TD2 also freezes often compared to Win 6.1 where it almost never froze. I also hope that HTC will make some kind of service pack for Win 6.5 as it doesn't work that well at the moment.

pa49 said:
Does it do this without the mem card installed?
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Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.

miker1892 said:
Not tried it without the memory card, but I need the card for storage. Never froze prior to 6.5 upgrade.
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I'm not suggesting that anyone uses the device without a mem card! You are missing my point.
Phones that freeze do so for a reason and it's necessary to eliminate possible causes.
Some two years ago I did extensive testing on this subject when the same issues arose around another make and model of phone.
One thing I found is that it is possible to induce instability of handsets when mem cards are used (abused?) in certain ways.
My TD2 used to freeze when I first got it and it has also done so with a number of cooked ROMs. With my current ROM it never freezes and there are no instability issues.
I strongly suspect poor coding of apps and lack of thorough beta testing. Isn't it strange how some apps have been around for years and you can rely on their worth?
Installing to mem card causes issues as well as cards that have installed apps being reused after cooked ROM flashing and previous settings and fat tables being left on the card.
Also when power is low mem cards draw large currents that the battery may not be able to give. They are very power hungry. I took this up with Sandisk Tech Dept and they politely told me that the info on current draw under stress (usage) was not for public access!
So my answer is keep your ROM light (no manila or after market 'front end'), minimise card usage by installing all you can to phone mem, reformat afresh with every ROM flash and keep your battery as highly charged as possible at all times.
Some say 'yes but I do all those things and I never get freezes'. That's fine but no help to those that do.
There really is only one way to find out and that is to take a little time and try it for yourself.

Large address book combined with bad 3rd party program
On my Tilt2 I found that applications like Fring could freeze the phone. After a few tries, I decided not intall that anymore (and Fring might have fixed it by now, but I can't afford to try, because uninstalling required a hard reset).
The phone originally came with HTC TouchFLO, but I switched that off, since it just made everything more difficult to reach. And sometimes the fhone became unresponsive, slow or totally frooze. After I disabled it by using the Windows Today (6.5 or classic) after which I only had about 2 freezes in 1.5 year.
Now I finally upgraded to the latest official ROM for the phone, which has HTC Sense on it. After everybody saying how great Sense was, I gave it a try. It worked reasonably, until I started playing with the Favorites in the Peoples tab. After each new addition (I tried 3) I had to restart the phone, and after restart it still hung up.
I happen to have a quite large address book that I synchronize with ActiveSync. I think I'm starting to see a pattern, where several applications - Fring, Sense, etc - just cannot handle large address books.
By the way, to disable Sense, first switch to the Windows Default (= WinMo 6.5) Today screen, and do a soft reset to get rid of Sense background processes. If you want to use the WinMo classic Today screen, then you can do that after the reset. Directly trying to move from Sense to WinMo classic resulted in another freeze. After disabling Sense, I haven't experienced a freeze, (yet !!!).

^^Try a custom rom,Sense works fine on those as the ROM is highly modified with few errors now.

[Q] HD2 with Android randomly freezes in standby

I've tried 3 different roms and while in standby my phone freezes. The screen goes black and won't come back on, and eventually the buttons won't even light up. Is this a known issue or could I be doing something wrong? I am running all stock windows mobile.
Thanks in advanced.

should post this in the Android thread.
However, I'll give you my $0.02. I've noticed there is a lag in my build as well. Sometimes it won't seem to wake up. Often I just need to wait a bit and it wakes. I've read that two things can be causing this: 1) autorotate in android (you can turn off in settings, but I kinda like it) and wrong ROM. Peruse the 'droid threads for good ones, everyone likes Miri's.

This happens to me too. I've tried a few of the recent builds and when I put it on standby and wait 5 minutes I get a black screen and nothing but backlight.
EDIT: Reformated storage card and so far so good. Give this a shot

Been months since i last was on xda, is there a ****tional android rom now? SWEET! Where do I finde it, wasnt able to find anything by searchin on the forum.

Had same problem. And got solved after reflash my radio to 2.11.50.26_** and ROM to ChuckyROM GTX + CHT 1.8.5. Also formatted SDCard(so i also used a fresh android build).
So i would also suggest formatting your SDCard to FAT32

I formatted the SD and the problem remain. I noticed that (in my case) if i start android from WM Explorer, i dont have the problem. If i start android from Android Windows Boot, the phone freeze in standby. Give it a try, dont have to modify anything. Good luck!

Auto-Shutdown after Android boot screen (HELP)

I have not heard of no one posting this problem I am about to post. I hope I can get help with it. The last Standlone android build I used that worked for me was the first one by dan1j3l called LeoFroyo-1.0. I have been trying to test out everyone's android build and for some reason for each build after it creates the data store and I see the boot screen the android screen say's "powering down" and my hd2 automatically shuts off and then i have to turn it back on which then makes it go back to windows mobile. It is annoying to having tried each build and the end result is my device auto- shutting down on me after the boot screen. What should I do to resolve this problem.

This problem reccurs on every single build you use? odd.
and it actually boots into android? past the boot logo/splashscreen?
Hmmm... its most likely not androids fault, make sure youve HSPL'd your device, update your radio ROM to something past 2.08 and throwing on ChuckyROMdroid (as your windows mobile ROM) would perhaps help.
Also, format your SD card to FAT32 BEFORE using any android build, and make sure your battery is charged?
My personal setup is:
HSPL3
ChuckyROMdroid
2.10 radio
ShubCRAFT 1.4c
make sure to run clrcad before HaRet, and that's about as much help as i can give off the top of my head

I have a Tmobile hd 2. It has hard spl on it. Can I go higher than hdspl 1 on my tmobile hd2? I tried the formatting numerous tiimes. I thiught it had to do with something in the startup file. It's just weird how as soon as the boot screen finish loading and I see the android screen interface my device vibrates then it notifies me on the android screen that it is powering down or it just vibrated then power down automatically. It's a real tease.

It is mind-boggling that this single model can cause so many different type combination of problematic behavior, isn't it?
Makes me feel guilty sometimes, that I suffer no serious setbacks running android with my combination so far.
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Same with me, the so called robot voice, never had it once. And I've been using android from the beginning, also every build have always loaded up for me with no problem.

What battery are you using.. i had the same issue with the official extended battery.. it;'s a known issue if it's that ...

The whole time I have been using the official extended battery. I think when I started using the very first build I had the original battery. I will swap it and see if any there is any change. That is a good point.

There are some workarounds for extended batteries though:
You could ignore the readings from the battery in the kernel
Pro's: No need to swap batteries, able to charge while running android
Cons: Unsafe to charge while running android, inaccurate battery readings if they work at all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7700703&postcount=1
Or you could cover the middle pin of the battery with a little piece of paper or tape
Pro's: Completely safe
Con's: you won't be able to charge under android, you'll have to reinsert the battery and boot windows every time you want to charge, inaccurate battery readings

It worked. Who would have thought the official Htc exteded battery would cause somethng like that to happen. I hope future builds have a way around this problwm. I am suprised nobody posted spmething regarding this. This phone is the best yet but I know having an extended battery is essential to it's longevity use in the day.

extended battery BP-E400 caused the Auto-Shutdown problem
hi guys, I got exactly the same problem you you guys encountering. I accidently swap back the original SLIM battery and the Android Froyo boot smoothly without auto-shutdown. I can somehow confirmed that the auto shutdown is caused by the extended battery BP-E400.

New ROM eliminated Auto-Shutdown problem
try this Android Mdeejay Froyo Sense v2.3 NextSense ROM:
(sorry, the link cannot be posted. Moderator disallowed. But you can google around with the keyword above.)
Works flawless with my extended battery. No more auto-shutdown. YeeHah....

HD2 Android Freezing Problems

Hey guys, would love to get some help.
Flashed 2.08HSPL to my phone a while back with radio 2.15.50.14
Using Transcend 8GB Class 6 Fat32 format with 32kb buffer.
I've tried multiple Android versions (MDJ, PPDSHIFT, DL Desire) and they all often freeze. Either within a day, or literally after I load the ROM for the first time and doesn't seem to be stable. The longest I've ever had a ROM with no freezing is PPD Shifts 2.3.2 V6 Gingerbread series. Then one day it started freezing.
As in freezing, the screen freezes, I can't turn the phone off at all. I leave it hoping it would un freeze, but nothing works. The only way is to take out the battery.
Is there something wrong with HSPL 3? Should I try to reload it? Or fix the radio?
I've upgraded from a class 2 SD card and I thought it works better, but no avail.
Should i stop going SD but go to NAND? Would that stop freezing?
Or is it my phone?
I'm running Stock Windows 6.15
Please, any help would be great. This phone has so much potential but it just freezes.

It sounds like the quite common overheating problem some hd2s have. Mine gets really hot in the bottom part under heavy usage and freezes afterwards. I think it its covered by the warranty though.

I'm having the same problem. Once it gets warm the phone freezes and when I turn on data connection also. Without a sim card in place phone works just fine hmm..

I got the same issue few times.
I am guessing you are heavy user too!
Mine even got reboot automatically when its overheated -.-!

sniper3 said:
I got the same issue few times.
I am guessing you are heavy user too!
Mine even got reboot automatically when its overheated -.-!
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Anyone managed to sort this yet?
Its happening to my hd2 all the time.
If I turn data and GPS on....game over...freezes straight away and sometimes loud buzzing
Noise.
Have to pull battery out to reboot.

[Q] Serious problems w/ HTC HD2 NAND ANDROID

Every time i boot android it freezes either with the GO GO GO! or at the start of android, every time i start gps, or turn on internet. Also when i play games or anything like that it freezes and does nothing else more. Sometimes when i play music and it freezes also the music does so it loops a buzzing sound. I have tried many different versions of NAND ROMS. All ended up freezing. It feels like i am the only one having such problems , because i have searched many threads and none have the same problem as me. So what should i do?

Which ROM?
MAGLDR Version?
CMW Version?
TMOUS/EU?
Radio ROM Version?

GRJ22 NexusHD2-GINGERBREAD v2.7NAND
MAGLDR 1.13
CMW 3.0.2.5
15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14

can you descripe how you flashed the roms? maybe you did something wrong - each time.
maybe try to use some toolkit like mine or the other one to do a guided install.

Run task29 on your phone, then reinstall MAGLDR, followed by the correct partition layout., then zip package. Boot your phone WITHOUT the sdcardin it and test what you can (obviously music wont work without the sdcard.)
If everything works, you probably need to format your sdcard to remove any lingering configuration files thats its loading (dont forget to backup anything important you want to save of your sdcard.
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do a task 29, reinstall magldr, go to clockworkmod, wipe data/chache/dalvik cache, then reinstall the rom

Well i have tried everything. Did the task29 about 10 times and reinstalled maglrd 5 times. I get stuck on the CWM. I download the right partition layout (as the rom requires) and whenever i try to boot from NAND i get nand kernel open failed. I also try the AD recovery under #8 i get stuck on the ''GO GO GO''. I have tried this for 5 hours and still no luck. I'm giving up and flashing a stock W6.5 rom. Thanks for trying

Sounds like you didn't flash the cwr right
Try the guide from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945427

Okay so i decided to do this from scratch. Stock downgrading the rom then from the beginning. I'll post if it will be successful.

I had the same problem...
It was the sd card. It was corrupted and I was told to use the Panasonic formatting tool(after removing pictures and music and t backup and sms backup)
So I hspl 2.08 mag 113 loaded zip and away I went
The formatter even brought back to life 2 sd cards that windows couldn't format.
Hope this helps. It worked for me.

I have the same problem with an HD2 TMOUS.
The freezing problem happens when performing certain tasks, like gps navigation, 3g/edge navigation or video filming.
I did again the flashing process from scratch, task29, magldr, cwr, and finally the rom, for a moment it was ok but then the problem started again.
I installed Sygic instead of Ndrive on this device and the freezing problem using gps go away. But when I turned off wifi and when the data connection over 3g/edge started the phone freezed again.
Going to check the sd card but I think this could probably be something with the cpu load.
PS: Sry for my english

The Final Thing.. HTC HD2 Hardware crap..!! Overheating issue
My Dears
This problem has nothing to do with the Rom /versions of Rom / winmo or android roms / the way u flash / or there is nothing wrong with the applications u installed / Processes Running in background
I experienced the same misery & also have seen many forums, where friends having this issue, usually they attribute it to software issues with roms/ applications, but unfortunately its not like that!!
Indeed its hardware issue because of faulty Motherboard your Leo has inside.
Your phone crashes because of overheating CPU and fails to reboot until unless you wait to let it cool down for 4-5 minutes or more by taking battery out
HTC HD2 Freezes, fail to soft reset, even stuck on rebooting when its processor got heat up up to 37 - 38 C, its fairly common to get up to this temp wen u use wifi, data connection, sd card, hold your set in hand or there is summer when usual temperature outside is 35 - 40 or more
Basically its design fault, When you use your hd2 for some time, its 1ghz processor produce a lot of heat, but no way for it to dissipate, 2nd all the imp things like antenna, sd card port, sim card port, charging port are concentrated on lower aspect of set causing excess heat generation but its metallic casing fail to dissipate, and eventually your processor fails to work at all
I have tested it personally, i used battclock on winmo & also widget telling temp on android, hd2 works fairly wen its core temperature remains <35 C, once it goes upto 37 - 38C its starts freezing and then even fails to reebot untill unless let it be cool down.
No other solution except to send your set to htc warranty or repair center & get your motherboard replaced
Not all the handsets of htc hd2 have this problem, many works well, but if you are unlucky to have the weird one, get its motherboard replace
& all the things will be fine
i have a bad words for HTC, Poor job!!

Azeemkamal said:
My Dears
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Indeed its hardware issue because of faulty Motherboard your Leo has inside.
Your phone crashes because of overheating CPU and fails to reboot until unless you wait to let it cool down for 4-5 minutes or more by taking battery out
HTC HD2 Freezes, fail to soft reset, even stuck on rebooting when its processor got heat up up to 37 - 38 C, its fairly common to get up to this temp wen u use wifi, data connection, sd card, hold your set in hand or there is summer when usual temperature outside is 35 - 40 or more
Basically its design fault, When you use your hd2 for some time, its 1ghz processor produce a lot of heat, but no way for it to dissipate, 2nd all the imp things like antenna, sd card port, sim card port, charging port are concentrated on lower aspect of set causing excess heat generation but its metallic casing fail to dissipate, and eventually your processor fails to work at all
I have tested it personally, i used battclock on winmo & also widget telling temp on android, hd2 works fairly wen its core temperature remains <35 C, once it goes upto 37 - 38C its starts freezing and then even fails to reebot untill unless let it be cool down.
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Not all the handsets of htc hd2 have this problem, many works well, but if you are unlucky to have the weird one, get its motherboard replace
& all the things will be fine
i have a bad words for HTC, Poor job!!
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Huhh??! Really!!!

I install cLK andriod 2_3_5 NAND Runnymede 1_05_401_4 and trying to install Arabic lang but no way, every time the arbic lang give me that its O.K but I cant read arabic Messages and the letters are separate