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This is starting to become a constant issue and very annoying that i have to turn my phone off and back on. Also it lags like crazy and yes i check task manager nothing is open. This phone is an amazing piece of hardware but has a terrible software built into it...WHy the **** didnt HTC fix these issues when they released it on T-mobile they had 9months...
do an experiment. Try taking out the Micro SD card for a day and see if it still is having latency issues.
Mine only does that because my sd card is full of music and gps software. So it's to be expected if yours is the same. I was told by HTC if I want to keep music on my phone I should have it on the phone and not on the sdcard. Because every time you plug it in or turn it off it forgets where the music is stored on the card and what music is on there and has to refile everything.
Yes, It's the sd card...it sucks!
secano said:
Yes, It's the sd card...it sucks!
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what kind of sd card do you use?
Why does it freeze so much? how do i fix this problem?
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Why does it freeze so much? how do i fix this problem?
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Did you do what SEscobedo suggested?
i upgraded to a class 6 sd card and the lagging has stopped. the only lag i get now is just during texting/sms
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what kind of sd card do you use?
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the class 2...
Terrible Phone
My first phone kept freezing even after I Master Reset it. I did that 3 times. My sd doesn't have anything on it except for the preloaded pictures that were already there. To keep my phone from freezing, I have to "End All Task" every time i use it. It still froze. This became so annoying. Finally, i got fed up. I felt i got a defective phone. I went back to the TMobile store and got the phone replaced... Got my second phone.... was so relieved... for a few days only!!!! Until the second one got defected too. The vibrator stopped working and the weather sense thing was weird. It kept displaying a moon when it's like mid-day with the sun out bright and shiny. Browsing the web was hell. I Master Reset it.... same thing... today, I went back to TMobile to return the phone. Don't be fooled by the looks... the inside is rotten!
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KidTech said:
This is starting to become a constant issue and very annoying that i have to turn my phone off and back on. Also it lags like crazy and yes i check task manager nothing is open. This phone is an amazing piece of hardware but has a terrible software built into it...WHy the **** didnt HTC fix these issues when they released it on T-mobile they had 9months...
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I use to have freezing issues as well until I stopped windows live/hotmail from synching my mail automatically. I have my hotmail setup manually now. I've not had any freezing for several days now and I do not have to close ant apps with task manager. In addition, my battery life is greatly improved.
By the way, I am using the sd card that came with the device. Hope this information helps.
Thats the thing i dont have my email set up to automatic, i have gmail set up on manual...
My phone never freezes anymore. I upgraded to a ROM that gets rid of the HTC messaging client. Thank God!
I hate Microsoft's messaging client and i like HTC's client, so i don't want to turn it off but it is so slow if you have lots of messages.
my phone was freezing every day and even did a few resets and nothing. finally flashed a cooked rom and almost all the problems went away. i started out with energy's rom and that thing was crazy fast, no more lag at all. now im on dutty's (just because its oem looking) and its fast and problem free, phone never lags and never freezes on me like it used to and its just as fast as energy's. so i suggest that to everyone here having problems. since i was in the same boat. im still using the oem sd card also.
I traded my g1 for an hd2. Gave it to my wife and she loves it. Only problem is the SOD. Until a solid kernel fix is made she figured this out and no SOD so far. She uses Aldiko a lot and you can adjust the contrast with a swipe down the left side of the screen. She turns it all the way down and its completely black. Swipe up the left side and screen is back on. Cheap fix I know but works for now till the real bug could be ironed out.
the only time i had an sod is when i tried 2.11 radio..
what radio you using?
I am using the tmobile radio 2.10.50. Or something like that.
if its related to radio, I have 2.08 and never had one sod
What rom are you using? Also which winmo rom? I know its not a radio problem.
So, could it be, that radio 2.11 and higher kill the screen?
Do you recommend to use only radio 2.08?
I am from germany and a week ago my touchscreen was defect and had to be changed for a new one. Could this happen because of the wrong radio?
SODs have nothing to do with the radio. it has to do with the SD card. i can confirm this by taking my sd card and putting it in 2 different hd2s with 2 different radios and i had no SOD what so ever but when i would use a different sdcard i would get SODs on both
I've heard that higher class SD cards have better results. But sods are typically causes by the g sensor bottle necking when the phone goes to sleep. Aldiko prevents phone sleep but you can shut the screen off by turning the contrast down all the way with it. Swipe down off. Swipe up on. Like I said cheap fix but works for the time being.
I use a class 2 sd card that came with the phone. the only form of SOD i experience is the screen powering on but it remaining black which is only temp, as a few turns on attempts anbd its fine. which i realy wouldnt consider screen of death since it never sticks like that permantly to requiire a reboot.
That's lucky for you its a common bug at the moment. I have to baby my wife's hd2. I'm a bit jealous. Lol
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I've heard that higher class SD cards have better results. But sods are typically causes by the g sensor bottle necking when the phone goes to sleep. Aldiko prevents phone sleep but you can shut the screen off by turning the contrast down all the way with it. Swipe down off. Swipe up on. Like I said cheap fix but works for the time being.
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thats not true. i use the stock 16gb class 2 sd that came with the phone (TMOUS) HD2 and i have no SODs at all. I experienced SODs with a PNY 8gb Class 4 so higher class doesnt mean less SODs. it has to do with how the sd is formatted and if the sd has errors on it.
That's what I'm using the 16 gig that it came with. I'm just saying what I've read. Now that you said that I know I can save money and not have to but a expensive SD card lol.
Viewing the answers it seems to me that nobody really knows what is causing the SODs... someone said that could be the SD CARD, others that is on the ROM side, others Radio, others GSENSORS... in my opinion have to do with the early stage of Android development in HD2, maybe Cotulla will be able to release a new Kernel which fix the SODs and Freezes problems...
Use chuckydroidrom with radio 2.12.50
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The Radio is the problem
ok Ive done this for 3 phones and I can tell u that SOD has only to do with the Radio. The only thing ive seen that the rom affects its the robot voice.
get this Radio Leo_RADIO_2.12.50.02_2
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9GU2FF3X
And Im a 100 percent sure is gonna work and if u want get the chunkydroid just in case.
Also the 3 phones which ive put Android had been from tmobile USA.
Using chuckydroidrom, supherhd2 1.2, class 4 sd card -- I don't get SOD other than sometimes waking from sleep. Either it's the blank screen which just takes a few tries, or it shows up but is unresponsive, then the wifi reads "error."
Unfortunately that happens a few times a day.
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Also using radio 2.12.50.02
Great Success!!!
Guys,
I have had great success running Miri's rom / 2.11 radio / turned windows mobile sense off / running Nexus One build FRG33 9-8-10
I have had now screen of death, no audio issues, no bluetooth issues, camera & camcording work in 5mp, wifi working, wifi portable hotspot is working (I desperately need this because of my job), no freezing, all apps working, my NES/SNES emulator works like a charm, no freezing issues, Quandrant speeds range from 1550-1650 (low speeds when snes emulator running in background).
My only issue is that, when in sleep mode, the orange light stays on constantly, but even with this, I have had battery life of 36+ hours. This setup is ready for daily use.
If anyone can help me get that orange light out, I would be much obliged.
you would think after all the great development going on here, this issue (the biggest issue it seems) would have been the first to be sorted out. I for one am pulling my hair out over it. i get it constantly on all the builds I try except for darkstones which kills my battery in 2 hours. running stock rom, 2.08 radio, stock 16 gig sd card
i have tried radio 2.10.50.26 and 2.12.50.02.2
all have SOD. all rebooted when i tried to log in at the market place
i have tried nearly all the roms
it seems like only mattc is the most stable..
but he hasn't have any updates for the last 10 days.
thanks
jack
jack9999 said:
i have tried radio 2.10.50.26 and 2.12.50.02.2
all have SOD. all rebooted when i tried to log in at the market place
i have tried nearly all the roms
it seems like only mattc is the most stable..
but he hasn't have any updates for the last 10 days.
thanks
jack
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Cant agree with you on that. I have also tried different roms, and stayed on Darkstone 2.1 from 18.8.10. I use 2.12.50.02.2, Elegancia v10, Class 2 16gb card which is almost full and I have only 2 issues:
1. SOD after you try to wake the phone up and immediately put it to sleep (Power button, and a second after again). It takes about 20 seconds until it starts working again. My suspicion, gsensor/sdcard, nothing to do with radio.
2. Bluetooth, A2DP controls do not work on my Bluetooth headset.
So, for me, this is the most stable.
BTW, I can run a battery for around 24 hours with gmail push, exchange push (through Touchdown, not native Android program) and average usage of calls, SMS, Wifi, Youtube and Market..
I have an HD2(of course)...i have tried many many roms but am stuck with the same issue..I have random freezing issues..i have tried different radios, different classes of sd cards..tried adjusting the vm heap. but to no avail..i am currently using frankenstine rom it seems to be the smoothest but i still have freezing issues..when this occurs i can only pull the battery to reset it and sometimes when i do this i must pull battery 3-5 times to get it past the magloader screen.
i have asked this question in many of the rom threads that i have used but have never gotten a clear and definite fix..can someone enlighten me on how to cure this issue it is really becoming quite frustrating.. thanks in advance to anyone..
When do you have these freezing issues?
When you're watching a web video? Playing a game and listening to music at the same time?
If so, it's cuz you've run out of ram, so your phone will lagg to death. So get a task manager to close those apps.
If not Iunno what your problem is.
Note: Try not to pull out your battery, instead use the soft reset button. If you keep pulling out your battery, you'll mess up the pins.
b14ckd34th said:
I have an HD2(of course)...i have tried many many roms but am stuck with the same issue..I have random freezing issues..i have tried different radios, different classes of sd cards..tried adjusting the vm heap. but to no avail..i am currently using frankenstine rom it seems to be the smoothest but i still have freezing issues..when this occurs i can only pull the battery to reset it and sometimes when i do this i must pull battery 3-5 times to get it past the magloader screen.
i have asked this question in many of the rom threads that i have used but have never gotten a clear and definite fix..can someone enlighten me on how to cure this issue it is really becoming quite frustrating.. thanks in advance to anyone..
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Have you tried a task29 prior to flashing?
Kailkti said:
When do you have these freezing issues?
When you're watching a web video? Playing a game and listening to music at the same time?
If so, it's cuz you've run out of ram, so your phone will lagg to death. So get a task manager to close those apps.
If not Iunno what your problem is.
Note: Try not to pull out your battery, instead use the soft reset button. If you keep pulling out your battery, you'll mess up the pins.
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it doesnt seem to be specific on when it freezes..but usually when only using 1 program at a time..i do use task manager.i recently installed words with friends and almost every time i try to open it, it will freeze.
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yes the last time i flashed i used task29..someone once told me it was my radio..which ive tried to downgrade to an earlier version but that didnt help either..
I think it's ram. Reason being, if it is from opening an app, it may be the app is using too much memory for it to handle, eg. mega jump is one
Never tried words before though, but it doesn't sound like something that uses a lot of memory but Iunno.
Do you use desire hd or z builds? Those leave very little ram left.
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I think it's ram. Reason being, if it is from opening an app, it may be the app is using too much memory for it to handle, eg. mega jump is one
Never tried words before though, but it doesn't sound like something that uses a lot of memory but Iunno.
Do you use desire hd or z builds? Those leave very little ram left.
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my current rom is a desire build..what build would leave more ram?
i am going to try yet again to reflash this phone and task29 it..
Any non sense build will give you 210+ ram free.
what radio are you using? had some freeze moments when i first started fiddling with android. upgraded my radio to 2.15 and never had a freeze ever since.
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what radio are you using? had some freeze moments when i first started fiddling with android. upgraded my radio to 2.15 and never had a freeze ever since.
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yea i got this radio also...
ok i rewiped, reflashed, task29'd it last night and thought everything was a-ok until a few minutes ago when yet again it froze. i cant wait till tmobile comes out with an htc phone with the same screen size as the hd2 but native android cuz ill be all over it..this crap gets old quick..i cant believe i am the only one with this unfixable issue.
did you also fully refresh you sd card? not much point task29'ing, reinstalling android and starting over if your sd card is still full of cache/droid system folders/EXT/Dalvik and what not.
that being said, if you have had the phone since way back last year, a good proportion of the early ones had freezing problems, regardless of rom.radio, and a quick warranty swap was usually the answer.
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did you also fully refresh you sd card? not much point task29'ing, reinstalling android and starting over if your sd card is still full of cache/droid system folders/EXT/Dalvik and what not.
that being said, if you have had the phone since way back last year, a good proportion of the early ones had freezing problems, regardless of rom.radio, and a quick warranty swap was usually the answer.
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i did use the recommended panasonic formatter..and also the cmw format,dalvik and cache wipe...
your other comment kinda makes sense..i have had this since i think February of last year.
so after speaking with tmobile, and actually reflashing windows 6.5 and having it freeze on me twice and today it got stuck in a reboot loop, I am getting a new HD2..i sure hope this one does not freeze as much as my current model..if tmobile would come out with an android phone with this big of a screen i would switch.
Hi guys. I've been running the Android Stock Desire build from Cotulla for a few months now. Every once in a while I'd get a freeze, but then a battery in, and out would fix the problem (usually within the first try. sometimes I need to do this a few times, but no more than 5 times)
However, since last Friday my phone has been crashing like crazy! Constant crashes at random stages, and even reboots. Removing the battery also didnt guarantee a fix. I think I may have tried it about a hundred times, and Android just crashed at a random point in time during every boot. Eventually it booted, but since then it has crashed again! I figured that perhaps I should try a newer build.
I've decided to try out this build: [08.MAR.2011][CWM]TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 RC2 v2.5.4[2.3.3][A2SD/RAM][rafpigna OC 1.8]. Since I already have radio 2.15.50.14, these are the steps I've taken:
- Flash Task29 (ShaDrac version).
- Flash MAGLDR 1.13
- Flash ClockworkMod Recovery v1.3 135M System
- Flash CM7
Now, even during the various stages before flashing the CM7 rom, I would get freezes during the MAGLDR 1.13 bootscreen, or recovery won't load and I'll get stuck on the GOGOGO screen. Also, copying the zip file over in the MAGLDR mass storage mode won't work, and causes a freeze when I start the copy. Reset, or Battery removal seems to get me to the next step again.
Eventually I've flashed CM7, but now it freezes at the setup stage.
I'm starting to think maybe its not the various Android builds that I'm trying, but perhaps the problem lies somewhere else on the phone? Any ideas? Is my radio perhaps not the best one for the phone (even though its the latest)?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Regards,
XA83
Shameless bump (hope I'm not breaking any rules!)
I realize this post should have probably been under the CM7 thread as well, but I don't have access to that yet due to my low post count...
Could be:
*Wrong CWM Size, check in the rom thread for information
*leftover data, task 29 and reinstall everything
*Corrupted data on SD card, try booting without sd card to see if this is the case.
Thanks for the reply.
I've removed both the SD card and the SIM card. Phone seems to work flawlessly. Boots CM7 without a hitch. Next step I've added the SD card back, and formatted the card from the CM7 settings page. Still perfect.
I've tried it about 5 times now and every time the SIM card is not present, the phone works like a dream. Every time I put the SIM card in, CM7 crashes within the first few seconds of showing the home screen.
Finally, some progress!! Thanks again for the assistance. However, what dis this mean? Could this be related to the actual SIM card I'm using, or does it have to do with the part where it initiates the network connection and possibly the 3g connection?
*Also, just for information, I believe that I do have the correct CMW size. The build indicates "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery v1.3 135M System" which is the one I've flashed.
maybe reflash back to winmo then do evrything all overagain to android
I doubt it's an issue with the phone and its initiating with the sim card. Just replace the sim card
the SAGA continues
Hi Guys,
So since my last posts I have actually managed to get the phone running Typhoon's CM7 and its been working great... for a while.
I'm currently on version 3.0.4 and I still get:
1) Freezes,
2) Reboots,
3) SOD,
4) This happened today: phone cuts mid-phone call and makes a loud buzzing noise until I pull the battery.
I'm thinking more towards hardware problem at the moment, but please let me know what you think, and what I can do to debug the sitaution. Is there perhaps a hardware monitoring app that I can install that logs the whole system every 1 minute that I'll be able to pick something up.
I was also thinking maybe the phone overheats. As explained in my original post, whenever a crash or reboot occurs, it would sometimes not restart the first time round after pulling the battery out and putting it back in. Sometimes I get crashes even during the MAGLDR stage with "fatal hit" and strange things like that. Or even when I boot into CWM sometimes.
Now, to test this overheating, I've experimented with placing my phone in the fridge for 5 minutes after a crash. Thusfar I've done this 3 times, and every time I get a clean boot when I put the cold battery back in and then the phone functions perfectly for a while.
So, overheating, or do I perhaps need another radio? I'm out of ideas.
Any help will be much appreciated. The problem now is that I'm so used to android that I wont be able to go back to winmo or even blackberry
Regards,
XA83
it happens to my phone, and did on my previous HD2.
I've tried every build, task 29, every radio...new sd card....everything.
matt
Are there any apps we can run to test battery temp, cpu temp, cpu voltage or anything like that? I'm pretty effecient at debugging PC hardware issues, but when it comes to my phone I feel like I'm back in the stoneage!
Please help
I have tried over and over and over and over on this kind of issue.
most if the time was some unfinished coppied file which can;t runs properly on roms.
Try to asks ROM developer.
- SD partition : how many partititons?
- SD partitions : what kind of partitions, is it using etc 2/3/4, does it comes with swap etc?
- Installation method : does it needs to clear phone ROM with cwr ? what is the size?
HD2 usually I will go for 400M size
- config.txt settings for SD/NAND.
A proper guide could helps you on in the installations
If you guys are having overheating problems resulting in freezes, you might want to use SETCPU and set a lower maximum frequency. Something like 800-900 mhz might keep your cpu's from getting too hot. Or maybe setting it to a different governor could help too, idk for sure.
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huggs said:
If you guys are having overheating problems resulting in freezes, you might want to use SETCPU and set a lower maximum frequency. Something like 800-900 mhz might keep your cpu's from getting too hot. Or maybe setting it to a different governor could help too, idk for sure.
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Possible solution, Thanks mate,
I changed the CPU speed to 1036 Mhz from stock 998 Mhz speeds and haven't had a Freeze yet,
before that The touch screen would freeze occasionaly when there was a lot of activity like in games such as fruit ninja ....
a Lower CPU speed such as 806 Mhz also seemed to do the trick ...
I don't understand why the Freezes would occur at stock speeds ...
I'll have to give it a few days though ...
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huggs said:
If you guys are having overheating problems resulting in freezes, you might want to use SETCPU and set a lower maximum frequency. Something like 800-900 mhz might keep your cpu's from getting too hot. Or maybe setting it to a different governor could help too, idk for sure.
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Update:
Tried that with Interactive Governer, it still freezes on odd occasions, and the battery temp shows 33-36 Degrees Celcius on load when running games ...
i'm beginning to think the freeze is temperature related, as it never freezes while it's cool ...
I'm going to try running it with Smartass governer and see if it makes any difference ...
regards.
Yeah, there's been alot of HD2 owners who've had high-temp related freezes, one guy even went as far as to dissassemble his phone, re-bond the cpu to his mainboard, and add a home-made heat sync to prevent further overheating (successfully)
I just figured changing the cpu freq or governor might reduce cpu load, or increase efficiency, resulting in less overheating. But I feel pretty confident in saying that you guys' freezes are very likely coming from heat. It was even a problem in stock WinMo roms
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Yawp, I can barely charge my phone with the silicone case on anymore and that's in ac (the AC in my house is usually set at 74F) I have noticed I get freezes at 36C however I can go to the beach and get it up to 44C and it runs flawlessly
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Dylan Wilson said:
Yawp, I can barely charge my phone with the silicone case on anymore and that's in ac (the AC in my house is usually set at 74F) I have noticed I get freezes at 36C however I can go to the beach and get it up to 44C and it runs flawlessly
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Thats wierd, I'd have thought that such a High Temp as 44 Degrees C would cause more freezes ....
regards.
i'm getting freezes from cyanogenmod android too. i recently restored my ROM to the original 2.13 and believed to have all previous settings related to android deleted.
freezing
i realy didnt undrestand what the exactly means of freeze, my phone freeze after change rom ,i can't use "TyphooN CyanogenMod " becuz my phone freeze at the android logo and it didnt any animation to boot !!!
i have hspl8 , radio 2.15.50 ,Recovery_130M_system_4M_cache[v3.0.2.4],mgldr 13.
i install windows then install android but it steel frezz, i can install just HyperDroid-GBX rom !!
it this problem fix with cpu temp ??
i get it in Refrigerator still feee !!
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Hi guys. It's definitely the overheating causing all the freezes. I've now succesfully "fixed" my phone 11/11 times by placing it in the freezer and then it works flawlessly for at least a day.
I'll try setCPU to try and lower the CPU frequency from stock and prevent heat issues.
However, ideally I'd like to return the phone to the manufacturer as a defective one! Only problem - how do you convince the 'genius' tech guy that the phone overheats. Last thing I want is to send the phone in, and only get it back after a few months with some response that they found nothing wrong.
Hence, I'm still looking for some sort of app to prove in a way that the overheating is causing crashes... At least in that case they may be more likely to issue a replacement immediately. Any ideas yet?
Regards,
XA83
Just a follow up:
My phone has been sent back to HTC. After a long wait, tech support said they replaced the hardware components - I'm assuming the phone mainboard.
I've reflashed CM7 since, and it hasn't crashed a single time!
Verdict: Random freezes was caused by hardware problems on the phone, and the crashes was most likely due to overheating of the components.
Regards,
XA83
Hi, I was bummed when my HD2 running Energy Rom 6.5 Titanium was beginning to freeze on me and it kept progressively getting worse and worse for a month. It got to a point where it became unuseable as it froze every 2 minutes and even my Android SD MIUI Rom could not even load in half the time and when it did it just froze after a few seconds. I thought my hardware was failing me and was contemplating either sending it in with my warranty or just getting a new phone completely.
BUT....I have since taken the sim card out as I can't use the phone and put it into my HTC BLUE ANGEL (God bless it, still chugging along nicely after 8 YEARS!!!!) and I notice my HD2 all of the sudden running smoothly! Its been running smoothly and fast for the last 72 hours on 6.5. I just loaded up my Android SD with no problems at all! Has anyone ever heard of a sim card causing the same problem symptoms as failing hardware? I HOPE this is the case as I'm trying to find anybody else that can shed a light on this. I love my HD2 and hope its not dying!
P.S. I put the sim card back in and noticed a slight slow down and a few instances of unresponsiveness but no freeze yet. My sim card is about 4-5 years old.
P.S. 2 - My phone finally froze after watching a 5 minute youtube clip in Android. Cant discern whether it is phone hardware related or app related or even Rom related as my Android always freezes atleast 1-2 times a day every since I had an Android SD Rom.
yes, sim cards fail / get old and can cause issues, non booting, random hard resets, gl;itchy screens, all kinds of things. phone your operator and ask for a new one.
samsamuel said:
yes, sim cards fail / get old and can cause issues, non booting, random hard resets, gl;itchy screens, all kinds of things. phone your operator and ask for a new one.
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Thats what I like to hear. I think my HD2 is not messed up after all. About 80 hours on Winmo no freezes w/o sim card and only one freeze on Android SD in 8 hours. Thanks!