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Rant "on behalf of" the Devs here...

Guys. Chill out with the pushing for AOSP, CM, and others to push out a GB ROM. It is completely inappropriate, and disrespectful to what everyone here has done for the community. I'm beyond sick of seeing frantic posts left and right about how "ZOMG I AM DYING FOR GB!!!!1111oneoneone" et al.
Enough is enough, please. and no, nobody asked me to post this... I'm simply fed up with that nonsense polluting threads left and right when the devs are people just like you and me. It's an insult to their talent, time, and efforts.
/soapbox
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I second eliseexige. We all want Gingerbread and, yes, most of our devs work wonders when it comes to building ROMs but we must have petience. Devs aren't magicians, they are normal human beings, most of which have jobs.
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Did you have to create a whole new thread for this? It was already said many times in the AospMod thread..

igtheactt1 said:
Did you have to create a whole new thread for this? It was already said many times in the AospMod thread..
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Not everyone has the time to scour through thread AOSPmod thread. This is much more obvious.
I agree completely with OP!

Yea your right... but still it's even in the wrong section... lol but whatever it is what it is...

yeah, i did. read the thread,both actually by AOSP. it's insanity. enough is enough. the point is made, so that is that i suppose...
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I agree with the OP to some degree. Also, for all those who use the ROMs, I think that donations should be a no-brainer. However, I don't think its wrong to ask for news, we are all excited about the ROMS and are constantly checking the forums for them. I just don't see the harm in asking (demanding is one thing).

nebke said:
I agree with the OP to some degree. Also, for all those who use the ROMs, I think that donations should be a no-brainer. However, I don't think its wrong to ask for news, we are all excited about the ROMS and are constantly checking the forums for them. I just don't see the harm in asking (demanding is one thing).
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There's no harm, but it's relatively pointless to ask, since rarely are there ETAs for them. Plus, it makes reading through threads to be a bit of a chore when it gets constantly bumped with people asking "When is this coming out?!?!" (also it must be really annoying for the devs).

igtheactt1 said:
Yea your right... but still it's even in the wrong section... lol but whatever it is what it is...
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It may be in the wrong section - but it does get noticed more here. It caught my attention!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only rule of Cyanogenmod should be a law.
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I hope all of the devs come into this thread and pat you on the back. Yay for you!!

kbizzle said:
I hope all of the devs come into this thread and pat you on the back. Yay for you!!
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There's no way to say thanks to devs like posting in the wrong section.

I agree with the OP. Don't like waiting? Make ur own rom. Don't like a post? Really don't care. Enjoy the things that u get, instead of beefing about things u don't have. Enjoy.
MJK

I want a swiss colony beef log.
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eliseexige said:
Guys. Chill out with the pushing for AOSP, CM, and others to push out a GB ROM. It is completely inappropriate, and disrespectful to what everyone here has done for the community. I'm beyond sick of seeing frantic posts left and right about how "ZOMG I AM DYING FOR GB!!!!1111oneoneone" et al.
Enough is enough, please. and no, nobody asked me to post this... I'm simply fed up with that nonsense polluting threads left and right when the devs are people just like you and me. It's an insult to their talent, time, and efforts.
/soapbox
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Lol thank you xda police we are glad YOU are the voice of the people *sarcasm*
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I have actively not been working on Gingerbread.
I have yet to set up 64bit for it.
I have instead spent the entire weekend in an awesome coma due to multiple alcoholic beverages.
I did pass my finals though. It was great.
Tomorrow, I set up 64bit MM.
Ok.
Now someone move this post to general.

Decad3nce said:
I have actively not been working on Gingerbread.
I have yet to set up 64bit for it.
I have instead spent the entire weekend in an awesome coma due to multiple alcoholic beverages.
I did pass my finals though. It was great.
Tomorrow, I set up 64bit MM.
Ok.
Now someone move this post to general.
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You've done plenty of work, you deserved that coma
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hey eliseexige, i wanted to let u know i hit the thanks button for ur post. and to everyone who has been pestering CM and AOSP, STOP. ik u r every excited for GB, believe me, i am too. you shouldnt ask them for eta's, u should be satisfied with the fact that THEY ARE working on it and be thankful that they are wasting their time to bring the world (people they dont even know) a 100% working ROM for FREE.

brokentoaster24 said:
You've done plenty of work, you deserved that coma
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Quoting that in my sig, its just too good to pass up.

decad3nce said:
i have actively not been working on gingerbread.
I have yet to set up 64bit for it.
I have instead spent the entire weekend in an awesome coma due to multiple alcoholic beverages.
I did pass my finals though. It was great.
Tomorrow, i set up 64bit mm.
Ok.
Now someone move this post to general.
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:d now this i like :d

XDA for the Vibrant is dead.. I love our Dev's!!

I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
Updated - Changed the title because I meant no disrespect
When I say no ROM worth trying I guess I need to be more specific. I currently run Bionix-V and right now don't see any ROM that is a huge improvement worth switching from.. But to clarify there are several very good ROM's out for our Vibrants..

maybe you should wait til they release a source code for 2.2
actually, just leave now.

Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?

jonwilly said:
No Roms worth trying no kernels no modems. I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
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As for your questions, we still have Sense to look forward to (Barak, if you some how see this, good luck with your family situation,) new ROMs from TW/Eugene, etc. Possibilities are truly endless.

hazard99 said:
Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
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WHAT???? "dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?"
Are you smoking crack? I have donated and appreciate everything the Dev's have done and are doing to make our phones experience better.
But since the last few solid ROMS have come out for 2.2 there really has been little new development that actually improves your phones performance.
Currently Running
Bionix - V
KB1 Modem

I'm confused by this post. Actually I'm very shocked by this post.
Did you even look at the Dev forum? There are a ton of ROMS and the ROMS available are continuously being updated , some even are getting 2 or more updates per week!
How can you say the Vibrant is dead?
I can answer my own question:
1. You are just trolling OR
2. You need to learn how to use your reading comprehension skills and read more
Because there is plenty of action going on for development for the Vibrant. Give it some time man. The source code that is in the Dev section is a leaked one that Eugene got his hands on. Samsung hasn't even officially released it yet. Once they do there will be a swarm of updates to these ROMS we have already AND there will be new ones.
IDK, sorry for my rant. I usually don't even reply to these kind of seemingly troll posts but you probably should just take the other guys suggestion and just leave the forums. Because you just slapped the great Devs that help us all make our Vibrants one of the most customizable phones around.
Don't bash any devs with a statement like yours, and then at the end of your post thank the devs. That brief "thanks" to the devs doesn't take away the SLAP in the face you just gave them
PS. Just for your info and a reply to your last statement about performance enhancements to the Vibrants... My phone KILLS my girlfriends stock Nexus S in performance and looks in every way possible. I can't even bog my phone down and I'm not even overclocked. I'm running a "stock" Bionix V 1.2

stop feeding the trolls

Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...

It's a trap!

Let me get my .02 in before this thread gets justifiably locked.
To the OP, what are you looking for? To say this forum is dieing is a joke.....right??
At one point there was only TW, Eugene, and Master posting up Roms; NOW we have about 6-7 options. The theming section is plastered with new options. 2.2 just got released and it opened up more doors.
If you think it's dead then kindly depart, you and all you have contributed will be sorely missed. /sarcasm

jonwilly said:
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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No, you are not attacking anyone directly but you were also not "striking up interesting conversation". "forum is dead" and "no roms worth trying" is a matter of opinion which you are entitled to but not exactly a kind way of asking what's in the Vibrant developments future.

jonwilly said:
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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You have "striked" some conversation for sure. And my post wasn't attacking you so I'm assuming you weren't talking to me in your last reply?
Unfortunately your post comes across kind of negative towards the community of Devs that work very hard to keep giving us new stuff for our phones.
So maybe you had very good intentions and the words just came out looking bad in your post.
I mean it is very hard to express intent thru words on a page. With actual conversation in person your words come across better. So maybe you can edit your original post if you didn't mean it to be a slap in the face to the community of devs here?
If not then that's fine too. Everyone is entitiled to their opinions.

Gingerbread

Is the Vibrant General not the place to just have open discussions? Why all the neg responses? I'm a die hard fan of this forum and our vibrant community. I was just trying to strike some conversation.
I agree we have themes out the butt.. Great I have themed my phone to death..

Your wording is not very good, I'm sorry to say. When you say "there are no ROMs worth trying" it sounds like you're saying "there are a bunch of ROMs but they're all shyte." If that is not your intent, I hope you change you original post, because that's exactly what it sounds like.
If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here

I agree, but Flagship has been beast for me!!

Bernardos70 said:
If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
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Not my intent at all..

This thread seems kind of silly since we've just started seeing kernels built from 2.2 source. It's kinda been the Holy Grail for many of us since the Froyo leaks began. Don't know about you, but I'm totally excited about Voodoo sound, overclocking, bln, ulf, etc., and all that with good battery life.
So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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Kubernetes said:
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So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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I consider worthwhile close this thread!

What are you complaining for?

Ive had my Vibrant since its release on July 15th, this is my second device because a few hours out of the box it just bootlooped.
I love it, and i love the dev community thats here for it, but im tired of hearing people complain about stock updates that their not gonna use. "samsung doesnt update their devices", "This is my last samsung phone"...Are you serious? Why complain when you've had an awesome dev community since the start. People know their not going to run stock but the complain anyway. Imo, I think people are just jumping on the Samsung Hate bandwagon. This is an awesome phone and community, And our Vibrants still murder more than half the Android Comp on stock 2.1, you guys saw the youtube reviews right?.
Why dont we give more praise instead of more ungreatfullness because this just sickens me.
"AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES CRYING, IM SIMPLY STATING THAT ITS VERY UNNECESSARY TO CRY WHEN YOU DONT HAVE TO"
PLEASE EVERYONE FIND YOUR FAVORITE GREAT (DEVS/THEMERS & AND GENERAL HELPFUL PEOPLE) AND PM THEM A THANKS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK
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Agreed. This is my first android phone and will be keeping it for a long time. Devs have been awesome, but you will always have people who ***** and complain. It's just the nature of the beast.

Well said. This is a beast of a phone when run on custom roms, and our amazing devs are doing some great stuff to double the performance. Kudos to them. But some people simply live to whine and ***** around in their daily life let alone an internet forum.
Love this Vibrant and this great community behind it.

One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?

Master&Slave™ said:
One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
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wait what? I'm sure as hell you know why we don't have a stable gingerbread rom.
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I love my Vibrant also. My phone does EVERYTHING that I could want a pocket sized computer to do; and it does it fast and it does it on a beautiful screen. The folks who have taken the time and energy to mod this rad device are plain and simply: awesome. Thanks to everyone at <TW> and EDT (my favs) for tweaking my phone in ways that I never could. Thanks to all who have worked on this device and produced a dozen + other ROMS. And thank you to the new Devs who are willing to continue tinkering with their own, hard earned, phones for the benefit of us all.

+1000000000
I so agree with u! this community has been great and theyve been so helpful too. Ty so much and im loving my vibrant.

A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...

jeremiah_mn said:
A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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+1
Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.

#neveragain
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regP said:
+1
Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them

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Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
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Disagree. This post has to reasons. To get people to see how great their phone is and to get them to be grateful for all the hardwork here in xda.

Agreed, the phone is great and still can be considered in top 5 phones out there. However I will like stock gingerbread for the sake of GPS drivers and Voodoo Kernel.

mugenfiji0327 said:
Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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I never said his statement was invalid. I'm simply pointing out that threads like this often turn into flaming etc. People posting hate threads are a problem on this forum. People replying to those threads with flaming is also a problem. People posting thread that are prone to start flame wars are also a problem. Threads like this pop up all the time and more often than not it ends up being a flame war. I agree with the OP. People should take the phone for what it is or stfu and leave. But making this forum better isnt just about shutting down flamers when they start crap.. its also about not feeding their raging and/or posting things that invite them to start trouble. Constructive enough for you?
If you haven't been here for long than maybe you have yet to see the pattern. And maybe you should at least thing about what I said in my initial post before resorting to insults. While your at it, I invite you to find a single post of me whining about anything. Because I promise you wont.

When Samsung releases updates then our devs can tear them down and make them better. Without that source code it's very difficult to make the custom roms that are so friggin awesome. This is why we don't have a totally stable and working 2.3 rom out yet, and we probably won't until Samsung makes the stock 2.3 upgrade available.

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Haha, nice man.

thanks for all the hard work yall saved me when i somehow erased everything on my phone and was stuck in cwm

I, personally, have nothing to hate on the phone about..
We all complained for 2.2, but knew that our roms that we already have are FASTER and BETTER, when we did get 2.2 stock, no one used it, it was used by devs to probably put a few things in their roms, but after that, its gone.
The GPS sucks, i get it, thats their fault, they made a mistake, other companies have before as well (Apple with their antenna) I don't use GPS i have a GPS so i use that instead of my phone.
Besides that, i can complain for probably... no flash for the camera, but thats it.
MY phone is PERFECT, with the devs all that hard work, and i'm talking about the REAL devs, not the fags who theme and call themselves devs.
(no offence to themers at all, themes are themes, and are not meant to be a full rom, with the exception of Jellette's Bi-Sidekick ofc, it had to be a new rom even though its a theme)
I, Thank you all developers for sticking with us through the hard time that Samsung has given the devs by not releasing the source code, etc.
Thank you.

Just a wee note to remind people to keep it friendly. It's becoming a bit of a habit having to close threads like this because of childish and inappropriate behaviour.
Don't let this one go the same way.
Thanks...

Agreed! Good points!

New Version of Bionix is out

Team Whiskey just announced the release of the next release after Bionix V 1.3.1, They're calling it Bionix Next Gen.
Figured everyone would be interested to know, as the 1.3.1 thread has about a million hits.
Head over to their forums at teamwhiskey.com to get their full instructions, otherwise just go to download here: sourceforge.net/projects/bionix-v/files/

This was already released a few months ago, but was in BETA and only for Donators, guess they released for everyone.
cheers!

Froyo? Not interested

Emama said:
Froyo? Not interested
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I also wonder why they have stuck with 2.2 and only released one 2.2.1 that never got updated after the first day or so. Wonder what it is about the difference that they don't want to develop.

They ARE working on a GB rom, as heard..
Their probably releasing a 2.2 rom because.. well... people currently think their.. DEAD and they want people to know their still here, GB is probably hard as hell to work with.

their new rom NextGen was publicly released today on the TW forums. The OP is just slightly misinformed. IMO it seems to run better than v 1.3.1

Next Gen
1) based on Bionix 1.3.2 not 1.3.1
2) 1.3.1 ran like BUTTER< had damn near NO issues and was tough to improve on
3) Next Gen build was lead by a different group of devs that have contributed but not lead the charge
a) They have put together the BEST ROM the Team has done to date.
4) They are working on GB. With Samsung not hooking up some Vibrant GB source there are still holes, and we all know that the team is all about QUALITY!!!!!
5) Next Gen was a Beta for donators, because the doantor is the one most likely to give feedback on bugs (my guess).
Give it some love if you want. I have had NOTHING but great results. Battery, service, and GPS have been Phenomenal.....

If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.

s15274n said:
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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This isn't from viralblack or som, it's from a different group of aspiring devs associated with tw.
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s15274n said:
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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If you go over to teamwhiskey.com then head to the forums or join their fan site on facebook they are alive and well...
I'm not 100% about WHAT exactly happened but I know they cut back on their XDA posts due to some...um...let's call them "miscommunications"
Team Whiskey has the best (most stable,fastest) roms I've found so far...great devs...

TW Rules!
s15274n said:
If a developer can't keep in touch and talk about stuff, they are of no interest to me. And this long for an update, really?!?!
I really like viralblack and sombionix... but heck, a lot of people on here probably do not even know who they are.
EDIT, reading this I feel like a jerk, but EVERY developer has been so open with me.. willing to talk, help me out... those guys are ghosts.
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You know they used to practically run these vibrant forums right? Sombionix would try to answer everyone's questions and be open with people. He ended up having the same problem that all of the greats had, and that's growing intolerant to whiny noobs that complained too much. I don't blame those guys for leaving and staying out of touch. It's not like they're obligated to us for anything. Long live Sombionix and his whole TW team. Imagine putting crazy long hours into a hobby, and once you were finished the people looking at your hard work criticize you and say it sucks even though they couldn't do any better. I don't know about you but it would drive me away too.

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You know they used to practically run these vibrant forums right? Sombionix would try to answer everyone's questions and be open with people. He ended up having the same problem that all of the greats had, and that's growing intolerant to whiny noobs that complained too much. I don't blame those guys for leaving and staying out of touch. It's not like they're obligated to us for anything. Long live Sombionix and his whole TW team. Imagine putting crazy long hours into a hobby, and once you were finished the people looking at your hard work criticize you and say it sucks even though they couldn't do any better. I don't know about you but it would drive me away too.
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I understand what you mean, but Team Whiskey should atleast talk to us a little or even a bit instead of AT ALL
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Nabeel10 said:
I understand what you mean, but Team Whiskey should atleast talk to us a little or even a bit instead of AT ALL
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the thing is, they still do. people just assume that if it isn't Som or Viral, then it's not TW. But the throne has been handed down, so to speak, to a new group.

Sigh, they said a while ago that they weren't going to release anything on XDA anymore. They grew tired of XDA so they decided to just post on their forums/website only. It's true that the Bionix developing has been handed down to someone else, Nopcodex90.

jimmynguyen91 said:
Sigh, they said a while ago that they weren't going to release anything on XDA anymore. They grew tired of XDA so they decided to just post on their forums/website only. It's true that the Bionix developing has been handed down to someone else, Nopcodex90.
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and its an amazing rom!

is it 2.2.1 or 2.2 ? wow one another best rom to flash

Any idea why my battery drain fast... from 100%-73% in just 45mins. And im just browsing not even playing video.
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Ok, let me clear some smoke.
1. NextGen is still 2.2, based from the mysterious 1.3.2 build with some more tweaks by Nopcodex90
2. I'm not sure if Shorty, Alexia, or Nopcodex90 still gets on XDA, but i'm still here....but T.W. forums is where we mostly reside at now....Som, Viral, and Krylon are and will forever be the original founders of Team Whiskey..and with all the great, solid ROMs they put out...they deserve a break if they want one, and while they're taking a break...Shorty, Nopcodex90, grendel905, Alexia,creator2456, AlterBridge86, Allen, MacGyver, PezLee, }SkOrPn--', KidDynamite, along with myself is holding down the fort at the forums. We are a team....we are Team Whiskey, and we will never die.

[ANNOUNCEMENT]Please stop putting down the Devs in these posts

Please stop with the dumb comments against the devs. This is totally uncalled for and should stop now. I am someone who really enjoy's coming to this site. I come here to read, learn and always am looking for new fun things to flash.
IMO all the devs here are amazing and remember they do this all for free, They dont have to give us nothing but they give us amazing Roms, Kernels and Themes to make our phones better and allows us to customize it how we like. You are all entitled to an opinion but if you have nothing nice to say then you should'nt say it. Dont start crap because your Rom hasnt been updated in a few days, you know the devs are working on it and will release it after its been tested. I know i want something tested before i flash it and i would think you would also. So lets remember we all are here for the same reasons and i would like to make sure the devs know we appreciate them and all they do for us. I dont want devs to start getting pissed and say forget you all so lets try being nicer to them.
Sorry for this but this is just my opinion and i hope you all would agree with me.

^^^Absolutely agree
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+2 absolutely agree. If you don't like how the devs are, STFU and go AWAY. They do amazing things for us. Period.
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Not meant as a rant, just my POV
Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.

DaleV said:
Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Thank you... It's nice to see people are agreeing with me on this.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Also, remember to not be frustrated when they can't instantly solve a problem. There is a reason that they make the roms, and you don't. Most people are busy.. maybe they have a job, family, and/or school. The fascinate really has talented people working on it. We are some of the lucky people that flash new toms and kernels without a locked bootloader.
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you know the sad thing about these people, is that they come back.

Could not agree more. There is no need for any slinging in here.
I also get bummed when I sere people *telling* themers what to change.
None of us has to be anything outside of stock. If you opt to participate in the progress, great, enjoy. But know that the guys that build out owe you nothing.
You have it because THEY are awesome.
And OP, I love that you made a thread for this. :thumbup:
Swyped...

Best post I've read in a long while.
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Excellent post.
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Wait, so I can't demand faster updates and better support for all the money that I'm NOT paying? You mean to tell me that I can't catch attitude with the devs who are doing all of this for free? Are you trying to suggest that I can't complain about the bleeding edge software/firmware and a**kicking mods that we get from them when Samsung and Verizon wouldn't walk across the street to piss on our heads if we were on fire? Are you implicating that I don't have the right to leave criticizing posts and berate the devs when this awesome stuff isn't exactly to my liking? Especially when it's user error and all my fault? To sum it all up you're basically saying that it's wrong for me to be an a**hole and totally ungrateul when I've contributed absolutely NOTHING to this community? That's it! I'm getting an iPhone and I'm leaving!
Lol! Great post man! For real! 100% AGREE!
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Great post fitti...and on that note...remember to donate to those you use. It takes so much time to do this kinda stuff, we should at least buy em a beer.

Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.

thefunkbot said:
Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer?
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I've no idea what he's referring to either.
And the use of the prefix, "[ANNOUNCEMENT]" for this self-righteous rant seems rather pretentious.

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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.

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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Well there has been people coming into the posts and complaining that this Rom or theme hasnt been updated. i mean i am all for the newest updates to any of the Roms, themes, launchers and anything you all do for us. So basically i was just trying to put it out there that anyone who is not contributing to any dev or mods should just be patient and in time all their ROMS, Themes, CWM and everything that you all do will get done. I was just getting tired of people demanding stuff, i mean come on if you want something bad enough and you can't wait then oh well learn to do it yourself. There are plenty of people waiting for Comrom v 2.0 and they will have to wait until it has been tested and released, when it is it will be awesome b/c these good people who have jobs and lives outside of this posts are willing to do amazing stuff in their free time. I know your Tw4 is going to be awesome and you do amazing work.
I just want everyone to be nice to you all as they should be showing their appreciation instead of sometimes being asses to some of the devs. I didnt enjoy my phone when i first got it and now i love it because of all that you all do... I just wanted you all to know it and i hoped everyone else agrees with me.

landshark68 said:
I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.

fitti28 said:
Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Well, remember the troll from that thread blamed his lack of meds as the problem.... yeah I didn't buy it either.
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Our devs rule and everyone knows it. Anyone who would bash them is clearly a troll or an idiot, or both, and shouldn't be paid an ounce of attention.

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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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yeah it wasnt just chronster though....if you actually want to bang your head against the wall there are dozens of lousy comments in the com rom thread about "this rom is broken, why release this..blah blah"
really irritating