Ive had my Vibrant since its release on July 15th, this is my second device because a few hours out of the box it just bootlooped.
I love it, and i love the dev community thats here for it, but im tired of hearing people complain about stock updates that their not gonna use. "samsung doesnt update their devices", "This is my last samsung phone"...Are you serious? Why complain when you've had an awesome dev community since the start. People know their not going to run stock but the complain anyway. Imo, I think people are just jumping on the Samsung Hate bandwagon. This is an awesome phone and community, And our Vibrants still murder more than half the Android Comp on stock 2.1, you guys saw the youtube reviews right?.
Why dont we give more praise instead of more ungreatfullness because this just sickens me.
"AND IM NOT CRYING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLES CRYING, IM SIMPLY STATING THAT ITS VERY UNNECESSARY TO CRY WHEN YOU DONT HAVE TO"
PLEASE EVERYONE FIND YOUR FAVORITE GREAT (DEVS/THEMERS & AND GENERAL HELPFUL PEOPLE) AND PM THEM A THANKS FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK
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Agreed. This is my first android phone and will be keeping it for a long time. Devs have been awesome, but you will always have people who ***** and complain. It's just the nature of the beast.
Well said. This is a beast of a phone when run on custom roms, and our amazing devs are doing some great stuff to double the performance. Kudos to them. But some people simply live to whine and ***** around in their daily life let alone an internet forum.
Love this Vibrant and this great community behind it.
One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
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One of the reasons i think sammy doesnt update is because they dont stand a chance vs our dev field so why bother you kno?
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wait what? I'm sure as hell you know why we don't have a stable gingerbread rom.
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I love my Vibrant also. My phone does EVERYTHING that I could want a pocket sized computer to do; and it does it fast and it does it on a beautiful screen. The folks who have taken the time and energy to mod this rad device are plain and simply: awesome. Thanks to everyone at <TW> and EDT (my favs) for tweaking my phone in ways that I never could. Thanks to all who have worked on this device and produced a dozen + other ROMS. And thank you to the new Devs who are willing to continue tinkering with their own, hard earned, phones for the benefit of us all.
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I so agree with u! this community has been great and theyve been so helpful too. Ty so much and im loving my vibrant.
A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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A thread to whine about other people's whining. Nice...
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+1
Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
#neveragain
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regP said:
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Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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Threads like this are an invitation for the trolls to come eat their next meal.
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Disagree. This post has to reasons. To get people to see how great their phone is and to get them to be grateful for all the hardwork here in xda.
Agreed, the phone is great and still can be considered in top 5 phones out there. However I will like stock gingerbread for the sake of GPS drivers and Voodoo Kernel.
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Yeah and you 2 are probably some of the whiners he is talking about. If you don't have anything positive to contribute to his post then don't comment. He made a very valid statement. I haven't been a member for long, but I have seen many threads that were either titled something about never buying samsung again or whining about not getting stock updates. So unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread then don't come in and bash him for just trying to point out that the phone is awesome and that people are worried about stock updates when they don't even use them
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I never said his statement was invalid. I'm simply pointing out that threads like this often turn into flaming etc. People posting hate threads are a problem on this forum. People replying to those threads with flaming is also a problem. People posting thread that are prone to start flame wars are also a problem. Threads like this pop up all the time and more often than not it ends up being a flame war. I agree with the OP. People should take the phone for what it is or stfu and leave. But making this forum better isnt just about shutting down flamers when they start crap.. its also about not feeding their raging and/or posting things that invite them to start trouble. Constructive enough for you?
If you haven't been here for long than maybe you have yet to see the pattern. And maybe you should at least thing about what I said in my initial post before resorting to insults. While your at it, I invite you to find a single post of me whining about anything. Because I promise you wont.
When Samsung releases updates then our devs can tear them down and make them better. Without that source code it's very difficult to make the custom roms that are so friggin awesome. This is why we don't have a totally stable and working 2.3 rom out yet, and we probably won't until Samsung makes the stock 2.3 upgrade available.
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Haha, nice man.
thanks for all the hard work yall saved me when i somehow erased everything on my phone and was stuck in cwm
I, personally, have nothing to hate on the phone about..
We all complained for 2.2, but knew that our roms that we already have are FASTER and BETTER, when we did get 2.2 stock, no one used it, it was used by devs to probably put a few things in their roms, but after that, its gone.
The GPS sucks, i get it, thats their fault, they made a mistake, other companies have before as well (Apple with their antenna) I don't use GPS i have a GPS so i use that instead of my phone.
Besides that, i can complain for probably... no flash for the camera, but thats it.
MY phone is PERFECT, with the devs all that hard work, and i'm talking about the REAL devs, not the fags who theme and call themselves devs.
(no offence to themers at all, themes are themes, and are not meant to be a full rom, with the exception of Jellette's Bi-Sidekick ofc, it had to be a new rom even though its a theme)
I, Thank you all developers for sticking with us through the hard time that Samsung has given the devs by not releasing the source code, etc.
Thank you.
Just a wee note to remind people to keep it friendly. It's becoming a bit of a habit having to close threads like this because of childish and inappropriate behaviour.
Don't let this one go the same way.
Thanks...
Agreed! Good points!
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I remember the good ol days when people just dropped by, downloaded some stuff, left nice comments and went about their day. Lately, bout the last month or so, the threads have been filled with "I donated a dollar, I want my ROM" or "can I get an ETA on this?" (which is the rudest question I've ever seen here) or just people arguing or one-upping each other. I fear we're losing the community-based friendliness of this site as the days go along.
As we can see, a few devs have had enough and already left. How much longer is everyone gonna keep this up? It's like I visited XDA one day and it turned into an AOL n00b forum. It sucks. I want the old XDA back where people didn't cry about CM missing deadlines (they just visited again later and if a new CM was up they were happy, if not they just came back later), people didn't complain about Damageless losing his job and having to focus on his life instead of ours, people simply enjoyed what was available instead of hounding devs about when stuff is coming out.... I must say it'll be released when it's released!
I just don't understand what's so difficult about giving those who give us the time of our lives time to breathe and enjoy their lives too. It shouldn't matter whether a "donation" of a $1 or $1000 is made - the devs (and some of the senior members, shucks, even like me) deserve a lot more respect than what's going around lately. At the end of the day, I just don't want to suffer for following the rules when others decide to wreck it for the rest of us.
Anyway, I just had to rant. I still <3 XDA and always will. This place really has changed my life forever.
That is very well said. Devs should be praised not hounded.
annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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lol ok you got me
LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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That's a great way to put it. Didn't think about it like that.
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annnnnnnd now you're crying lol sorry had to.
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hahaha I knew that was coming from someone.... Hey it is what it is... this place is packed full of redundant and repetitive questions but what ya gonna do...
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LOL, this is what happens when we recommend ROM flashing noobs to XDA developers. Impatient, expecting, demanding & consuming individuals.
The old XDA had it, it just multiplied x3 when Android came into the fray.
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Everyone was a noob at some point. Don't let that be used as an excuse for bad forum behavior.
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I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.
One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.
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I have seen this before with Forums as the user-base grows and popularity increases, which Android brought many non technical users into the smartphone era, your impatient/arrogant/immature user-base grows as well and since they are still learning how things work but want it now since this is the era of entitlement your gonna get alot of asshats wanting there ROM now or there FIX now. It sucks but It happens.
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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
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One thing about XDA is its never been that user friendly or at least as long as I have been here. Seems like a few people come here just to be assholes. They know everything and even if you agree with them they will still act like dicks. With that said I try to stay out of those situations. Sit back in my thread and sometime comment on topics. Sorry but its true.
Try it, post something in the wrong thread by accident and see what happens.
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This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...
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This. The Evo was the first time that an android device really blew up with the non-technical crowd, and of course XDA has a reputation, so all of the new users came here. Unfortunanly, they don't really understand what it means to be a member of a development community though, and look at XDA like it's just another smartphone forum.
This is true, but back then people just took it in stride. Also, people have gotten a lot less militant about posting in the wrong threads. Back in june/july though, it was rough. And god forbid you didn't search first...
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I lightened up my statement a bit.. its not a lot just a select few.
I've been guilty of wrong thread bashing myself it can be kinda fun. All depends on how out of place the topic is.
P_dub_S has it right. the market just expanded so much for androids. its like when blackberry came out with the Pearl and every teenage girl had one lol... most of the new phones arnt owned by tech people. hopefully in the fallowing months they will calm down. stil think the best forum was the xda section for the eris im just happy to have a phone lol so dont mind me
Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...
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Most people just don't see how hard it is to make some of this stuff work. People must think that making roms/themes/kernels is just a bunch of copying and pasting or something...one thing that bugs the living hell out of me is on those Desire HD port threads...if the OP doesn't respond in 3 days, they just bump it saying something like "Well...I guess this is dead..." Devs ain't robots, something wrong with these people...
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Exactly. What people don't understand is this is a hobby. We are not making a living doing this, and I do not get paid for this. Yes its true that we do receive donations but not NEARLY as many as I think people assume.
imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....
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imho...these forums which used to be filled with great developers turned into a forums filled with the developers wanting compensation or in prettier words "beer money" for their time and effort instead of "joy and fun" or "hobby" of making roms and is slowly becoming more "pay-to-play" and if you don't pay, they take their business elsewhere to their own "pay-to-play" forums....just my own observation going from windows mobile development to android....
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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...
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Not doubting you, but I'm curious (because I don't frequent other forums, or noticed anyone leaving), who took their "business" elsewhere, and where did they take it? I haven't really seen that - those donation links in the sigs have been around forever...
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He is correct I have seen a few developers take their ROMs elsewhere (create their own website) but I'm not sure it was about money. I have donated to a few chiefs because I understand the time that goes into making these ROMs. Its time I could be spending with my kids. People seems to feel chiefs are obligated to do this for some reason. I do it because I like it not because I want to get paid. I get paid at work. When people complain at you all the time it turns it into work and then it isn't fun anymore.
Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.
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Screw all of you....I payed my turkey sandwich and a hooker! I want my damn daily updates with a rom so spectacular that it will make me a full course meal.
Of course im playing but i cant help but agree with you. I find that i spend more time sorting through "non searchers" than anything else. I hope to see this calm down over the next year. Good thing about this is that people will only get smarter and simmer down....My car forums(g35driver.com) is getting worse as the car gets cheaper. More kids and ridiculousness.
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that's where you are wrong...sure "some" people may get smarter, but for every person that gets smarter, 5 more noobs are sure to follow...
You people that are requesting everything on gods green earth just relax. Froyo just dropped yesterday. I'm sure the devs don't want to be up all night porting your theme request, and apps.
Just be thankful that we have froyo. Everyone *****ed about not having froyo. Now your just overloading the forums of request. Just give it time it will come.
Thanks devs for all the work. Happy with a stock froyo !!!
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sent from my fascinating fascinate eating delicious froyo.
I agree brotha! Hell, im loving the vanilla experience alone!
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+1
I approve.
+1 wait for our devs to bring us great things for froyo. If what your looking for is not there in the next weeks or months, then ask.. There is a great possibility that they already know what froyo needs.. I'm sure voodoo and a proper cwm will be first on their list... Then cleaning, fixing, and getting rid of the verizon spy..
Just give them some coffee money to keep them on the fascinate band wagon..and hope it keeps them from jumping on the new dual core phones coming out soon
Thanks jt and kaos!! Good work and thanks to all the rest that I don't know the names of
Rocking dj05 and jt's voodoo 5
Agree completely. I saw requests yesterday evening on the forums, which is absurd. You can't expect the devs to get a froyo leak working AND release a complete library of froyo themes and ROMs on the same day. I'm sure within the next few weeks there will be MORE than enough ROMs and themes to go around.
If anything they deserve a thank you thread for what they do! Not request
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Just because someone requests something does not mean they expect it, much less immediately. Perhaps there have been some rude people who did give off such an attitude, but it's hardly fair to lump the properly appreciative and understanding folks in with them.
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Just because someone requests something does not mean they expect it, much less immediately. Perhaps there have been some rude people who did give off such an attitude, but it's hardly fair to lump the properly appreciative and understanding folks in with them.
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It still doesn't matter. Its not the time. Just relax. I'm sure the last thing the devastate wanna read is requests. How about some thank you threads. It hasn't even been a full day
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You people that are requesting everything on gods green earth just relax. Froyo just dropped yesterday. I'm sure the devs don't want to be up all night porting your theme request, and apps.
Just be thankful that we have froyo. Everyone *****ed about not having froyo. Now your just overloading the forums of request. Just give it time it will come.
Thanks devs for all the work. Happy with a stock froyo !!!
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+1 I've been watchin these forums for a little over a month just waitin for froyo... Im thrilled ****less in 3 days from the official 2.2 leak and we're going to have what 4 diff ROMS... I dont think devs mind bug reports the first while, then maybe some suggestions. If your going to request I'd suggest attatch that to a donation towards there time and hard work...
Blue Froyo
The Nook Color has Honeycomb, where is mine...
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It still doesn't matter. Its not the time. Just relax. I'm sure the last thing the devastate wanna read is requests. How about some thank you threads. It hasn't even been a full day
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Actually it does matter. Attitudes like this and "angry mob" threads will just scare people off or prevent them from posting for fear of being pounced on. Not the best way to foster a community. And I can't speak for XDA as I rarely post here, but PLENTY of people on another board I frequent have not been shy with their praise of devs and contributors. Just because there aren't specific threads for it doesn't mean no one gets thanked
But anyway just my two cents. You may all resume burning effigies.
on a lighter note, nitsuj is a beast at theming, cranking out a couple themes mere hours after the leak went up.
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on a lighter note, nitsuj is a beast at theming, cranking out a couple themes mere hours after the leak went up.
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Man I agree! Hes being going crazy with froyo..
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Actually it does matter. Attitudes like this and "angry mob" threads will just scare people off or prevent them from posting for fear of being pounced on. Not the best way to foster a community. And I can't speak for XDA as I rarely post here, but PLENTY of people on another board I frequent have not been shy with their praise of devs and contributors. Just because there aren't specific threads for it doesn't mean no one gets thanked
But anyway just my two cents. You may all resume burning effigies.
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You are reading way into this.
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You are reading way into this.
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That's entirely possible, and if I've offended anyone then I do apologize, I just don't see the harm in people (politely) requesting ports of this or that theme. It gives the devs/modders a good idea of what's popular and therefore what to focus on if they feel so inclined.
If the offense scares noobs from posting where's my froyo? I'm willing to do it.
I'm tired of the honeycomb and gingerbread threads...
If it scares them to simply searching and reading threads, than I'm willing to take the hit as an offensive member... It's rediculous how many noobs think they are obligated. If someone needs help, they can follow the proper channels rather than posting on development forum where everyone is eagerly waiting for the latest and greatest...
i dont see a problem with request.. we all love what we have.. but i believe request are an idea.. now ya gingerbread and honeycomb, thats pretty absurd but i believe ppl are giving ideas asking questions.. thats what forums are about right?? we all appreciate what the devs do.. they doo everything.. make all of our hacking dreams come true and its awesome!! and im def down for thank you threads.. they deserve more than that.. any devs in ohio, ide gladly buy u a beer.. but forums are for discussions. ppl should be able to say what they want without being criticized, unless there ridiculous(gingerbread honeycomb)
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i dont see a problem with request.. we all love what we have.. but i believe request are an idea.. now ya gingerbread and honeycomb, thats pretty absurd but i believe ppl are giving ideas asking questions.. thats what forums are about right?? we all appreciate what the devs do.. they doo everything.. make all of our hacking dreams come true and its awesome!! and im def down for thank you threads.. they deserve more than that.. any devs in ohio, ide gladly buy u a beer.. but forums are for discussions. ppl should be able to say what they want without being criticized, unless there ridiculous(gingerbread honeycomb)
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This I agree with, I see no harm in people requesting themes, like someone else said it is good to know what is popular, it's not like most are trying to demand it or expect it to happen immediately.
People asking about Gingerbread and Honeycomb is a little crazy, while I think they should search but it really doesn't bother me all that much. Worse case scenario answer them or don't.
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This I agree with, I see no harm in people requesting themes, like someone else said it is good to know what is popular, it's not like most are trying to demand it or expect it to happen immediately.
People asking about Gingerbread and Honeycomb is a little crazy, while I think they should search but it really doesn't bother me all that much. Worse case scenario answer them or don't.
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exactly.. if you dont like what you see.. ignore it.. plain n simple.. but im not 100% on this but isnt honeycomb a tablet only interface??
I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
Updated - Changed the title because I meant no disrespect
When I say no ROM worth trying I guess I need to be more specific. I currently run Bionix-V and right now don't see any ROM that is a huge improvement worth switching from.. But to clarify there are several very good ROM's out for our Vibrants..
maybe you should wait til they release a source code for 2.2
actually, just leave now.
Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
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No Roms worth trying no kernels no modems. I guess when your phone just runs amazing it is getting hard to make it better. I keep trolling XDA for something worth reading or trying but nodda.
Thanks Dev for all that you have done but are we coming close to the end of development for the Vibrant? Any insight as to what might be some things to look forward to in the future?
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As for your questions, we still have Sense to look forward to (Barak, if you some how see this, good luck with your family situation,) new ROMs from TW/Eugene, etc. Possibilities are truly endless.
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Wow dont you think thats a slap in the face. I mean I actually think eugene is working with source first of all.
Secondly I "hear" they are working on gingerbread as there is a proof of concept in the development forum.
So once again.. dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?
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WHAT???? "dont you think this is a slap in the face to those who are working are to bring more features to us?"
Are you smoking crack? I have donated and appreciate everything the Dev's have done and are doing to make our phones experience better.
But since the last few solid ROMS have come out for 2.2 there really has been little new development that actually improves your phones performance.
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KB1 Modem
I'm confused by this post. Actually I'm very shocked by this post.
Did you even look at the Dev forum? There are a ton of ROMS and the ROMS available are continuously being updated , some even are getting 2 or more updates per week!
How can you say the Vibrant is dead?
I can answer my own question:
1. You are just trolling OR
2. You need to learn how to use your reading comprehension skills and read more
Because there is plenty of action going on for development for the Vibrant. Give it some time man. The source code that is in the Dev section is a leaked one that Eugene got his hands on. Samsung hasn't even officially released it yet. Once they do there will be a swarm of updates to these ROMS we have already AND there will be new ones.
IDK, sorry for my rant. I usually don't even reply to these kind of seemingly troll posts but you probably should just take the other guys suggestion and just leave the forums. Because you just slapped the great Devs that help us all make our Vibrants one of the most customizable phones around.
Don't bash any devs with a statement like yours, and then at the end of your post thank the devs. That brief "thanks" to the devs doesn't take away the SLAP in the face you just gave them
PS. Just for your info and a reply to your last statement about performance enhancements to the Vibrants... My phone KILLS my girlfriends stock Nexus S in performance and looks in every way possible. I can't even bog my phone down and I'm not even overclocked. I'm running a "stock" Bionix V 1.2
stop feeding the trolls
Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
It's a trap!
Let me get my .02 in before this thread gets justifiably locked.
To the OP, what are you looking for? To say this forum is dieing is a joke.....right??
At one point there was only TW, Eugene, and Master posting up Roms; NOW we have about 6-7 options. The theming section is plastered with new options. 2.2 just got released and it opened up more doors.
If you think it's dead then kindly depart, you and all you have contributed will be sorely missed. /sarcasm
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Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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No, you are not attacking anyone directly but you were also not "striking up interesting conversation". "forum is dead" and "no roms worth trying" is a matter of opinion which you are entitled to but not exactly a kind way of asking what's in the Vibrant developments future.
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Ha.. This is funny.. People get fired up and I am not even attacking anyone. I just was trying to strike of some interesting conversation on future project or things to look forward to in the near future.
Geeze peeps.. Chillz the hell out...
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You have "striked" some conversation for sure. And my post wasn't attacking you so I'm assuming you weren't talking to me in your last reply?
Unfortunately your post comes across kind of negative towards the community of Devs that work very hard to keep giving us new stuff for our phones.
So maybe you had very good intentions and the words just came out looking bad in your post.
I mean it is very hard to express intent thru words on a page. With actual conversation in person your words come across better. So maybe you can edit your original post if you didn't mean it to be a slap in the face to the community of devs here?
If not then that's fine too. Everyone is entitiled to their opinions.
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Is the Vibrant General not the place to just have open discussions? Why all the neg responses? I'm a die hard fan of this forum and our vibrant community. I was just trying to strike some conversation.
I agree we have themes out the butt.. Great I have themed my phone to death..
Your wording is not very good, I'm sorry to say. When you say "there are no ROMs worth trying" it sounds like you're saying "there are a bunch of ROMs but they're all shyte." If that is not your intent, I hope you change you original post, because that's exactly what it sounds like.
If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
I agree, but Flagship has been beast for me!!
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If that is your intent, then you deserve all the flack that you're getting here
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Not my intent at all..
This thread seems kind of silly since we've just started seeing kernels built from 2.2 source. It's kinda been the Holy Grail for many of us since the Froyo leaks began. Don't know about you, but I'm totally excited about Voodoo sound, overclocking, bln, ulf, etc., and all that with good battery life.
So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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So really, if you think there's nothing exciting now, what exactly do you consider worthwhile?
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I consider worthwhile close this thread!
Please stop with the dumb comments against the devs. This is totally uncalled for and should stop now. I am someone who really enjoy's coming to this site. I come here to read, learn and always am looking for new fun things to flash.
IMO all the devs here are amazing and remember they do this all for free, They dont have to give us nothing but they give us amazing Roms, Kernels and Themes to make our phones better and allows us to customize it how we like. You are all entitled to an opinion but if you have nothing nice to say then you should'nt say it. Dont start crap because your Rom hasnt been updated in a few days, you know the devs are working on it and will release it after its been tested. I know i want something tested before i flash it and i would think you would also. So lets remember we all are here for the same reasons and i would like to make sure the devs know we appreciate them and all they do for us. I dont want devs to start getting pissed and say forget you all so lets try being nicer to them.
Sorry for this but this is just my opinion and i hope you all would agree with me.
^^^Absolutely agree
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+2 absolutely agree. If you don't like how the devs are, STFU and go AWAY. They do amazing things for us. Period.
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Not meant as a rant, just my POV
Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Why, Why would anyone who is a member or user of XDA, bash on the Developers?? This is ASININE!! The developers here have made your devices so much better than they are stock. they spend countless hours fixing what the carrier and manufacturer screwed up in the first place and pawned off on us as GOOD STUFF Every time I have Questions or Issues with something it has been a developer who helped me, so in return they get all my support. Then I take what I already knew and what I learn here and apply it to helping other who are not at the level i am yet. So if this forum is dedicated to making things better for your devices and your understanding of those devices and its OS, which they MOST definitely ARE, why not show support and ask for help if something is going wrong or you don't understand, most of us are truly here to help. Instead of complaining and bashing do some research and find out how to help yourself, who knows, you might get so addicted to it you become a developer yourself.
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Thank you... It's nice to see people are agreeing with me on this.
Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Also, remember to not be frustrated when they can't instantly solve a problem. There is a reason that they make the roms, and you don't. Most people are busy.. maybe they have a job, family, and/or school. The fascinate really has talented people working on it. We are some of the lucky people that flash new toms and kernels without a locked bootloader.
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you know the sad thing about these people, is that they come back.
Could not agree more. There is no need for any slinging in here.
I also get bummed when I sere people *telling* themers what to change.
None of us has to be anything outside of stock. If you opt to participate in the progress, great, enjoy. But know that the guys that build out owe you nothing.
You have it because THEY are awesome.
And OP, I love that you made a thread for this. :thumbup:
Swyped...
Best post I've read in a long while.
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Excellent post.
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Wait, so I can't demand faster updates and better support for all the money that I'm NOT paying? You mean to tell me that I can't catch attitude with the devs who are doing all of this for free? Are you trying to suggest that I can't complain about the bleeding edge software/firmware and a**kicking mods that we get from them when Samsung and Verizon wouldn't walk across the street to piss on our heads if we were on fire? Are you implicating that I don't have the right to leave criticizing posts and berate the devs when this awesome stuff isn't exactly to my liking? Especially when it's user error and all my fault? To sum it all up you're basically saying that it's wrong for me to be an a**hole and totally ungrateul when I've contributed absolutely NOTHING to this community? That's it! I'm getting an iPhone and I'm leaving!
Lol! Great post man! For real! 100% AGREE!
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Great post fitti...and on that note...remember to donate to those you use. It takes so much time to do this kinda stuff, we should at least buy em a beer.
Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer?
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I've no idea what he's referring to either.
And the use of the prefix, "[ANNOUNCEMENT]" for this self-righteous rant seems rather pretentious.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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Well there has been people coming into the posts and complaining that this Rom or theme hasnt been updated. i mean i am all for the newest updates to any of the Roms, themes, launchers and anything you all do for us. So basically i was just trying to put it out there that anyone who is not contributing to any dev or mods should just be patient and in time all their ROMS, Themes, CWM and everything that you all do will get done. I was just getting tired of people demanding stuff, i mean come on if you want something bad enough and you can't wait then oh well learn to do it yourself. There are plenty of people waiting for Comrom v 2.0 and they will have to wait until it has been tested and released, when it is it will be awesome b/c these good people who have jobs and lives outside of this posts are willing to do amazing stuff in their free time. I know your Tw4 is going to be awesome and you do amazing work.
I just want everyone to be nice to you all as they should be showing their appreciation instead of sometimes being asses to some of the devs. I didnt enjoy my phone when i first got it and now i love it because of all that you all do... I just wanted you all to know it and i hoped everyone else agrees with me.
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I think this thread was started in response to chronster's comments in your Crysis Revolution thread about Community ROM being broken and your theme not being made for other ROMs.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Landshark you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for that.
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Well, remember the troll from that thread blamed his lack of meds as the problem.... yeah I didn't buy it either.
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Our devs rule and everyone knows it. Anyone who would bash them is clearly a troll or an idiot, or both, and shouldn't be paid an ounce of attention.
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Just curious, but where did you see anyone bashing a developer? The only bashing i have ever seen in the fascinate forum was of people who post things that are obviously not their own work. A lot of comm rom supporters used to have bad attitudes towards nitro for including tsm parts in his rom, but he has gotten rid of those now so there is no reason to be mad at him.
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yeah it wasnt just chronster though....if you actually want to bang your head against the wall there are dozens of lousy comments in the com rom thread about "this rom is broken, why release this..blah blah"
really irritating
Guys we can kiss the Black render app for the Galaxy Note goodbye.. i was really looking forward to it nevermind... The good news is the official Samsung forums have taken note of the issues and they have passed on to HQ So hopefully there should be a fix coming soon
bummer, glad I returned my gnote. highly doubt Samsung will do anything about it either.
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Best to keep on returning them till you get a good one, I was second time lucky, I love my Note
This is what happens when people complain and whine because they feel entitled to get everything from the devs. As nice as it would've been to have a fix from SuperC, you have to realize that he's releasing apps for soooooo many devices, he really is a truly awesome developer but he's still human and doesn't owe anyone a damn thing. If people want fixes for stuff then start reading and code you're own damn device or shut the hell up.
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This is what happens when people complain and whine because they feel entitled to get everything from the devs. As nice as it would've been to have a fix from SuperC, you have to realize that he's releasing apps for soooooo many devices, he really is a truly awesome developer but he's still human and doesn't owe anyone a damn thing. If people want fixes for stuff then start reading and code you're own damn device or shut the hell up.
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This is what happens when people complain and whine because they feel entitled to get everything from the devs. As nice as it would've been to have a fix from SuperC, you have to realize that he's releasing apps for soooooo many devices, he really is a truly awesome developer but he's still human and doesn't owe anyone a damn thing. If people want fixes for stuff then start reading and code you're own damn device or shut the hell up.
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I concur 100%
I won't go on and state how the flaming and the attitude that the devs work for us is BS. Every time I defend the devs or flamees I get a bad pm from a mod.
It will never stop though
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The thing is people didn't ask for the fix right now or even later, it was not a ETA question, but more like: was he still working on it or not, so people could move on and stop waiting for a fix that would never come.
That got him mad. I can understand that. Maybe he was in a bad mood or something.
It's true a couple of dumbass talked about spamming him to get him to move, and that was just so stupid I can't believe it happened.
Now everyone that was just genuinely hoping that the dream of a perfect screen would come true one day can just say goodbye to that.
Everybody is punished for the sin of a few. It always works like that in real life too.
A very sad Galaxy Note user.
The fact is he was avoiding the status update like a plague.
Basic communication doesn't cost a thing.
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The fact is he was avoiding the status update like a plague.
Basic communication doesn't cost a thing.
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The fact is, that he has every right to do as he pleases.
A fact is also that many good programmers are very bad in communication.
Maybe we should get a collection together or bounty for a dev to make an app for us, then if the app does not turn up, or does not work correctly working, no money.
Just a list of members names, everybody pays 10$ on completion of the app via paypal start a new thread just for this.
My Note works great, and i don't want to root it, so i don't really need the app myself it was just a thought.
John.
I knew it would happen.
Time and efforts wasted both SC and the waited.
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The fact is, that he has every right to do as he pleases.
A fact is also that many good programmers are very bad in communication.
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So very true, but one in modern world will face repercussions for that.
SC can not be surprised for community backslash. He manifested such surprise.
Thats what happens when people put a slur a dev's character in a thread - I don't blame the bloke for closing it and wiping his hands with the Note Community, some of the posts were downright personal.
Come on People. Note doesn't ends here. Someone will step-in the shoe (one fine day). Besides there are other worlds to sing in.
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The thing is people didn't ask for the fix right now or even later, it was not a ETA question, but more like: was he still working on it or not, so people could move on and stop waiting for a fix that would never come.
That got him mad. I can understand that. Maybe he was in a bad mood or something.
It's true a couple of dumbass talked about spamming him to get him to move, and that was just so stupid I can't believe it happened.
Now everyone that was just genuinely hoping that the dream of a perfect screen would come true one day can just say goodbye to that.
Everybody is punished for the sin of a few. It always works like that in real life too.
A very sad Galaxy Note user.
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nobody talked about spamming SuperC,what was suggested was to send him a PM so that people with this problem will show him that he should kindly assist and update the status of the project.it was made clear that nobody is spamming him and the Gnote owners are just desperatethis got him angry but yet an apology was rendered
OK; some of you here are *****ing about members asking about updates or annoying him. He said "I never promised anything" but, and I quote:
"And after that.. there will be fixes and solutions."
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21084016&postcount=3
Like anyone who says stuff on the internet, it has to be taken with a handful of salt but saying something as clear as that from a recognized dev DOES inspire hope in a fix.
Quit defending him. He's old enough to defend himself if he indeed feels he's being attacked, and by my standards he should've expected at least some reaction. Bait and switch will piss people off; according to the closed thread he was holding off for public ICS release because it was required for the app to work.
Personally, now that I have an S3, I can return the note under warranty for a fix.
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OK; some of you here are *****ing about members asking about updates or annoying him. He said "I never promised anything" but, and I quote:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21084016&postcount=3
Like anyone who says stuff on the internet, it has to be taken with a handful of salt but saying something as clear as that from a recognized dev DOES inspire hope in a fix.
Quit defending him. He's old enough to defend himself if he indeed feels he's being attacked, and by my standards he should've expected at least some reaction. Bait and switch will piss people off; according to the closed thread he was holding off for public ICS release because it was required for the app to work.
Personally, now that I have an S3, I can return the note under warranty for a fix.
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Thank you for understanding what is happening i guess when someone offended you and latter genuinely apologies you shouldn't hold grudges
I don't think he did anything wrong by closing the thread.
Some trolls wanted to 'seek attention' and started spamming the thread.
If there was NO solution, he would have closed it long ago.
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This is what happens when people complain and whine because they feel entitled to get everything from the devs. As nice as it would've been to have a fix from SuperC, you have to realize that he's releasing apps for soooooo many devices, he really is a truly awesome developer but he's still human and doesn't owe anyone a damn thing. If people want fixes for stuff then start reading and code you're own damn device or shut the hell up..
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Nono, it doesn't work like that. You just can't open a thread and say you will save the world, and then let it dye not answering doubts and questions from other users. Next time, FIND a solution first and THEN tell the world. OR accept people *****ing.
I can already see this thread will die an early death, how about people just stop *****ing and we are all friends again