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King's Kernel - Input Needed

So I basically have Stock 2.2 with a lot of the unnecessary apps removed. The other day I installed King's 4th Kernel hoping for better battery performance but in the end it's a little worse. I'm not blaming the kernel for my performance issues. But I'm looking for feedback to get better battery life.
Right now I am not using Set CPU. I just flashed the ROM, wiped the dalvik cache, and decided not to wipe the battery stats. I've been using the #4 kernel for two days now.
I work my phone pretty hard every day and have a good idea of when it's gonna die. I don't bother bump charging but rather replace the battery with a spare I have on hand.
Any recommendations to fix my problem?
Try a different kernel?
Get Set CPU? I'm not interested in overclocking but I realize other features are available.
Wipe the battery stats?
One thing I can say for certain is that I've been using this kernel with my current setup for 2 days now and battery performance is worse. Something definitely needs to be tweaked in my engine because I shouldn't have to use 3 batteries in one day.
Again, I want to reiterate that I know there are a lot of factors that affect battery life. I'm basing my opinion off of my past battery life throughout the day. It's probably not the kernel but how I have things setup. I'm just looking for some direction to extend the life a bit.

The biggest thing to do will be setcpu. Underclocking during screen off and using conservative governor will drastically improve battery life.

I haven't ever had good luck with the King kernels on my phone. Adrynaline's Custom kernel has worked awesome for me though. Took it off the charger at 11am yesterday, used it regularily and didn't charge until today at 3pm and still had 32% battery left. I use SetCPU for underclocking the phone when the screen is off and that seems to be the best way to save battery. I also don't have anything syncing throughout the day besides gmail accounts.

Ok, well I guess I will start with Set CPU. Sounds like it's worth the cash. Maybe I'll try a different kernel at the same time.
Thanks.

Setcpu is available for free to xda forum members. Do a bit of searching around and you'll find the link to the .apk

Grikshanks said:
The biggest thing to do will be setcpu. Underclocking during screen off and using conservative governor will drastically improve battery life.
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Setting CPU Max at 555 when screen is off took me from 9-14hours to 25-30hours.
Clearing battle stat seems important
I like interactive mode when it seems to be working right. I don't really know what Interactive mode is except that setcpu will show the CPU jumping to differant frequency instead of ramping up like with conservative.
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Setcpu is available for free to xda forum members. Do a bit of searching around and you'll find the link to the .apk
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I knew this and had forgotten. Fortunately, right before I dropped the cash the light bulb came on. I appreciate the heads up anyway.
Has anyone had luck with King's Kernels?
srt4mn, do you have a link to the kernel you are using?

The kernel comes with the Virtuous ROM and can be downloaded as a separate entity from ROM Manager in his area.

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The kernel comes with the Virtuous ROM and can be downloaded as a separate entity from ROM Manager in his area.
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Ok, cool. I'll give it a shot. Is it tweaked to work just with the ROM or is it safe to install in Stock 2.2 as well?

Clambert11- Sounds as if you wrote your post for me. I haven't tried a custom rom or kernel yet but KK was the what I was considering. I do have setcpu running for a couple weeks now with underclocking for screen off, battery under 50%, and battery under 30%. Have noticed a modest improvement, mostly while phone is asleep at night. Not really much difference with day use. I carry a spare battery and charge at every opportunity.
I'll be watching this thread to see how the new kernel works for you. Sounds like it can be installed over the stock 2.2, yes? Does it require a full wipe?

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I'll be watching this thread to see how the new kernel works for you. Sounds like it can be installed over the stock 2.2, yes? Does it require a full wipe?
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I just installed Virtuous Custom Kernel - Version 2 without any issues. All I did was wipe the dalvik cache. I'm still not a firm believer that wiping the battery stats does anything. Now to setup SetCPU... I will report back in a couple days.

I tried bump charging with wiping battery stats a couple days ago. Didn't see any difference.
I be watching for your post. I'm happy with my rooted stock. This phone has more tricks than a $2000 hooker. The battery life is the big problem for me.

In regards to wiping battery stats, here's what I do and what seems to work good for me.
This is best to do when you have times when you wont need your phone to much.
1. Full charge phone while phone is on
2. Leave USB/power cord plugged in and turn power on phone off
3. Wait for the LED to change from orange to green while phone is off, this means you have a full charge.
4. Power on phone to get to recovery
5. Go to advanced > clear battery stats
6. Reboot phone
7. Pull out charge cable once your phone fully boots
8. Fully kill phone battery without plugging it in to USB or power the phone until it dies completely
9. Turn phone back on with charge plugged in after battery fully dies and phone shuts itself off, charge till 100%
I also keep my screen brightness down really low, this seems to help maintain good battery life too.

Those are good detailed directions. I had been wondering about when to plug and unplug. I also never fully discharged the battery. Li bats don't have memory issues so why fully discharge? Is the claim that this effects or resets something in the OS? If so where does this info come from? I wonder if someone pulled it out of his butt and it has become doctrine. Did you really see a difference? Did you try something else like lower screen brightness or setcpu at the same time?

i've been running bfs #4 on stock rooted 2.2 for about a week now. loaded the kernel through clockwork. it's working good for the most part and i've been keeping it mostly at stock speeds. however, i have noticed an occasional lag here and there (that i didn't noticed with the stock kernel) but no reboots or lock ups. i'm going to disable setcpu to see if that has any impact.

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Those are good detailed directions. I had been wondering about when to plug and unplug. I also never fully discharged the battery. Li bats don't have memory issues so why fully discharge? Is the claim that this effects or resets something in the OS? If so where does this info come from? I wonder if someone pulled it out of his butt and it has become doctrine. Did you really see a difference? Did you try something else like lower screen brightness or setcpu at the same time?
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You pose a good question. I myself dont know the source of the battery stat information, and coming from apple products I've been conditioned to not asking questions, but I can claim from experience that wiping the battery stats help the OS more accurately report the battery percentage.
Since I recently reflashed a new rom and kernal, my discharge rates were rather wonky. The first 15% went pretty fast (as they usually do) since I didn't bump charge. Then it remained normal till 50% when it spiked till 20%, then remained normal till 15% where it took forever to diminish.
Wiping the battery stats will help this number be more consistent since (to me) it helps the OS learn about the battery in conjunction to the kernal being used. I'm assuming that this feature exists because we can swap batteries. Ever curious why apple locks their batteries in their devices? If I had to guess it would be to avoid this whole debacle. They only use one type of battery for each device and as such can report battery percentage more accurately. Plus its easier for them to design.
I've gotten sick of bump charging, so I reset my battery stats after charging to full and not bump charging. This should give me a more accurate drop in battery for the first 15%.
This is all information I've gathered through experience. I do not program these devices, so take it for what its worth. If any Li-ion engineers are around here, help!
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Just an update. I've been running Virtuous for a few days now. I thought I installed Custom Kernel v2 but the System Settings say v1. I'll have to look into that. Kinda odd.
Anyway, I also am using SetCPU, which I think is responsible for most of the savings I have received. I've got the default scaling set to Conservative. Additionally, I have a Screen Off profile of 245 max / 245 min in Powersave and a Battery < 10% profile of 806 max / 245 min in Conservative.
I'm still playing the kernel / SetCPU game for the optimum settings but I've bought another 1.5 to 2 hours of life without feeling any real performance woes. I'm hard on the phone and use it a lot. That's what we have them for, right?
I had issues with King's Kernel #4. My phone, at times, would get real sluggish without even using SetCPU. I may try some of his older kernels or his next kernel (when it's released) to see how it behaves.
Just wanted to touch base. Thanks for the previous input and guidance.

Thanks for the update! I think my greatest savings so far has been from a screen off profile at about 460 max. I also have a 50% and a 30% profile.

Appropriate steps to a better battery life?

Hi everyone! Long time XDA reader and I've had my Evo rooted for months. Now I have been dealing with its "poor" battery life for a long time and not really thinking much of it till I finally decided that rooting has to have some advantage for this. I average about 6-7 hours then my phone dies...
After doing a little research I read some people getting 15-20+ hours out of their phone with heavy use...I was amazed...I decided to try to get better battery life on my phone and this is what I am trying right now. I just want to make sure I am on the right path with it and that I am not doing anything seriously wrong.
-I am trying Cynogens ROMs - CM7 I tried for a day and that gave me about 7 hours of battery life...still no real improvments. I am trying Cynogens 7 Nightly 12 now to see if that works.
-I am trying different Kernels. Been getting them on the HTC EVO kernels page. Right now I am using stock HTC one.
-Should I try different radios too? Where can I go to find different radios if so.
-What order should I be installing radios/kernels/roms?
-I have donated and am using Set CPU now also and have the screen off cpu power really low.
-Am I on the right path trying out different ROMS/ Kernels/ Radios to optimize my battery life? Is there anything else I can be trying?

turn off gps when not need
data when not needed

Check out my sig for my full walk-through on battery life (I don't want to repost it here lol).
But you seem to be doing everything okay. My only hesitation would be to say make sure you're giving Kernels adequate time to settle into your phone. Unless something is HORRIBLY wrong with them, you shouldn't switch/judge them until at least two days in
Radios should not make a difference in your battery life.
Also, be aware that CM is NOT optimized for battery life. There are a couple of ROMs that will give you unheard of battery life if you would like though (Myn's comes to mind). It's a trade off though. CM is hands down the fastest ROM you'll run...but in my experiences is in the lower tier of battery.
Hope that helps

also when the newest version of ultimate Juice is released that will help you i have the closed beta and im glad to have it back and running

@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time >_<
@Green: Really? Myns is good on battery life? I tried that before and was dieing with battery. (Was getting my average 6-7 hours) I had that one for about 2 weeks. Do you think it was my Kernels that were bad then? Isn't Myns warm 2 pt sense based? The one I used was...I had thought sense UI drained battery more than CM for example that is just plain stock android gingerbread?
@Cheesy again: Ultimate Juice? Is that an app on the mkt place? How much did it help you? I'm willing to donate and pay for apps to support the devs if they really make a noticeable difference.
Another thing..when you install a ROM does it automatically install a Kernel too? Or are those 2 separate?

syypher said:
@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time >_<
@Green: Really? Myns is good on battery life? I tried that before and was dieing with battery. (Was getting my average 6-7 hours) I had that one for about 2 weeks. Do you think it was my Kernels that were bad then? Isn't Myns warm 2 pt sense based? The one I used was...I had thought sense UI drained battery more than CM for example that is just plain stock android gingerbread?
@Cheesy again: Ultimate Juice? Is that an app on the mkt place? How much did it help you? I'm willing to donate and pay for apps to support the devs if they really make a noticeable difference.
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with UJ i get 18-19 or more on a full charge with phone being used 80% of the day .
with out i was changing out batteries after 9 hours or so ( i normally work 12 - 13 hours a day )
yes its in the market but gingerbread support is not public yet ( closed beta )
also check in spareparts for any wakelocks you might be having
for a sense rom myns are great so are Ava's,caulkins and Miks

Hmm Thanks Cheesy. I'll take a look at that.
So if I flash a ROM that is not Gingerbread...I can use that app. But Gingerbread is anything 2.0+ right?
I'll try out those ROMs too and different kernels...test them for 2-3 days.
Whats wake lock? I'll download that spare parts thing and see if I can figure it out.

I just recently started seeing great battery life with my rooted Evo. I flashed MikFroYo 4.5 with a stock htc kernal.
I use juice defender and that's it. I've been getting just over a day per charge for the past two weeks.
I wouldn't say that's with heavy use as a good 6-7 hours of that time are accounted for when I'm asleep. I do about 30-50 texts a day. About 10 minutes of calls and I check facebook and twitter all the time. My data use varies depending on the day but I do use youtube and pandora pretty regularly as well.

just make sure background data is disabled. accounts and sync>background data. I have no issues with battery life on stock sprint evo.
of course it is a 3500mah battery

My wife and I just bought two EVOs a week and a half ago, and I quickly became interested in improving the battery life on the phone. My first attempts were rooting my phone and installing OverClock Widget, and using minimal settings when the screen was off. With that change alone, and comparing to my wife's phone from a full overnight charge, my phone was able to make it 14-16 hours with moderate use. My wife's phone would die after 8-9 hours of moderate use. Granted, there's obviously going to be a difference between my moderate use and hers, but even testing with screens off and letting them idle for an hour, there was a definitive difference in battery consumption between our phones.
I went one step further and installed CM7 Nightly 12 just yesterday... already I'm noticing even further improvement in battery life, but the majority of those savings are when my phone is idle. Overnight, my battery only drained 7%, whereas my wife's drained much more than that. My battery has been at 39% for the past 3 hours at idle, so I imagine that with my version of "standard usage", I would be able to possibly get higher than 16 hours of usage per charge (can't wait until I do the full calculation testing tomorrow!).
Here are some observations I've had in all of this:
1) Check out Greenfieldan's list of battery tips and tricks. Some of these are very simple and actually had a significant impact on both my phone and my wife's phone (especially shutting off data and disabling auto-synch). I'm new to the forums, but this is one of the first things I checked out. This is a great place to start.
2) Battery consumption is obviously affected by how frequently you use your phone, and what you are doing with it. I say this because it's easy to read threads about what techniques work and see mixed results, but I don't see alot of people really admitting how much or how little they use their phones. I'd say I'm a more conservative user of my phone, but I still have my texting, browsing, and even occasional streaming, GPS using and general fiddling. So in other words, your mileage may vary with any given technique.
3) This is my personal opinion, but think about when you ideally want to be charging your phone, and try and anticipate usage around it. It sounds strange, but I've come to my own conclusion that an optimal charge for me (not necessarily possible, but optimal) will give either 12 or 36 hours of usage time. This is because I like to charge my phone overnight, so if I get 18 hours of battery life, I'm unfortunately wasting 4-6 of them. If I get 24 hours of usage, then that means that by the next morning, I need to charge again. So I plan ahead and charge at night, and use through the day. This was particularly useful when I first started with the phone and was getting a max of 8-9 hours. I'd know when to unplug, and how well it would get me through the day.
Anyway, at this point I'm rambling, but since it is still very fresh in my mind I wanted to share my thoughts. Hopefully this helps.
(Btw, apologies for the huge post!!)

syypher said:
So if I flash a ROM that is not Gingerbread...I can use that app. But Gingerbread is anything 2.0+ right?
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Gingerbread is Android v2.3. Froyo is v2.2.

syypher said:
@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time >_<
@Green: Really? Myns is good on battery life? I tried that before and was dieing with battery. (Was getting my average 6-7 hours) I had that one for about 2 weeks. Do you think it was my Kernels that were bad then? Isn't Myns warm 2 pt sense based? The one I used was...I had thought sense UI drained battery more than CM for example that is just plain stock android gingerbread?
@Cheesy again: Ultimate Juice? Is that an app on the mkt place? How much did it help you? I'm willing to donate and pay for apps to support the devs if they really make a noticeable difference.
Another thing..when you install a ROM does it automatically install a Kernel too? Or are those 2 separate?
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Sorry it took me so long to reply.
Anyhow, from my testing on mine and three other phones Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo has the best battery life (although some of them were right on par with it). Specifically his RLS 3 and RLS 4. Did you try Warm Z? Because the battery life on that ROM is no where NEAR his 2.2 ROM.
Also, Sense CAN be a major drain on battery. If you make it so it's not syncing all the time/doing the random shenanigans it defaults to I'd argue it's better than AOSP (based on my experience with both).
Yes, your Kernel might have been an issue. Do you know which one you were using? HAVS? CFS? BFS? Etc.
Just for my phone comparison, CM7 (which I am running now) requires me to charge my phone at least once a day. Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo was every other day/every day and a half.

syypher said:
@Cheesy: I turn off all those things If I turn off "data" that turns off Exchange push right? I really need that on all the time.
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You can set juice defender to turn on data to sync at set intervals; anywhere from 15min to every couple of hours. If you can stand to wait 15 minutes for that email then I would recommend it. I personally like not being interrupted every time I get an email.
Also, make sure your kernel and setCPU aren't trying to both control the same thing. I really like using a kernel with HAVS so I avoid apps that also try to modulate my CPU.
I've tried warm 2.2 and really like it. Although I think I'm getting slightly better battery with Azrael X 4.0 with netarchy 4.3.1-cfs-havs-nosbc and ultimate juice controlling only my data and WiFi connections.
Also,the 3500mah battery is worth every penny if you don't mind the extra thickness.

i owe setcpu and screen off seting for my battery life

I read Greenfieldan's step on the forum here about a week ago, and jsut the HTC Method of battery calibration alone changed my battery life completely.
I also dumped Advanced Task Killer.
In another thread, I rad that CM is the worst drain on a battery and I personally think the guy that wrote that is sadly mistaken. Even with all the steps taken in Greenfieldan's guide, Sense based ROMs are battery killers. They are the worst, by far, and I average battery drain at about 15-20% pr hour, even with screen off.
The #2 killer, is having your screen on. Waiting for that next text to come in with the screen on is not worth it, so turn it off when you're not using it.
With the setup in my sig, and moderate to heavy use, in 12 hours, I only drop about 25% with a Sedio 3500maH battery.
With Sense, like I said, quick battery death.

I'm using CM7 - Nightly 12 right now + Stock Kernel...I also have set cpu to change cpu usage when screen is off.
This combo was my first combo I started trying (2 days ago when I posted this) to test for increased battery life. I followed what some of you guys suggested and let it "work into my phone." Instead of giving up after 1 day of test.
Results! Just yesterday I had my phone on for 14 hours and it was at 18%! That is a HUGE improvement. Right now it is at 65% and I've had it on for about 5 hours. That's really long compared to what it was before! Before I tried changing the ROM, kernel and using Set CPU I would be at the red right now or around 15%.
Thanks you guys for all the suggestions! Any further advice would be greatly appreciated! (Only sad thing is that my GPS doesn't work with CM7 - Nightly 12 >_<...) Other than that I love it!

Which ROM and Kernel for better battery life?

I'm looking for a ROM which can make my device hit at least 24 hours with light/moderate use. I know it's based on how the much the user interacts with the phone, signal strength, etc but there has to be a ROM which made your battery life amazing! I'm currently hitting about 12-14 hours with light to moderate use. I've seen people that use it the same amount and get nearly 2 days, how can I achieve this? I read somewhere that Pershoots kernel does well with extending battery life.
I'm currently on CM7 with the stock cm kernel.
Thanks for any helpful posts!

Okay so in my experience to get 'good" battery life with a g2 you need to turn off your push updates, stay off of data as much as possible, and only hook into wifi when you need it. Make sure your screen is on for no longer than 30 seconds, turn down your brightness, and set some profiles under setcpu to downclock you after you get to sub X battery life. Just make sure to increase the priority the lower your battery life goes.
The best and most consistent battery life figure I've gotten is 42-48 hr by generally not being a complete dickwad. If you flash a rom and have to download all your apps again it is going to suck you dry. I ran Cm6.1.1 with preshoots kernel for a goodly while and have pulled the same speed/battery life as I do on Virtuous with Advanced Kernel. It's taken a couple days for it to settle in but yeah, you're looking at 42ish with moderate net usage, full signal, and darn near constant texting.
Edit: Let me clarify. As your power goes down you should downclock in 5% increments. For every 5% less battery power you have, you need to increase the priority of that profile by 5%. Make a profile that is 100% priority but downclocks your cpu to 350ish max and 200ish min. Also something to keep in mind is that every piece of hardware is different. Some people can report fantastic life on the same kernel and OS. Just one of those weird machine god things.

durps said:
I'm looking for a ROM which can make my device hit at least 24 hours with light/moderate use. I know it's based on how the much the user interacts with the phone, signal strength, etc but there has to be a ROM which made your battery life amazing! I'm currently hitting about 12-14 hours with light to moderate use. I've seen people that use it the same amount and get nearly 2 days, how can I achieve this? I read somewhere that Pershoots kernel does well with extending battery life.
I'm currently on CM7 with the stock cm kernel.
Thanks for any helpful posts!
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I am running Desire_S_G2_Port_Sense2.1_Gingerbread_2.3.3 on my DZ and i am very happy with the battery life..

Thanks for the replies guys, looking forward to more!
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I can get a day and a half with team villian sense ginger. The one before 3.0 best battery life i have seen yet. This is a 1.5days with constant OC no screen profiles or any kind of battery saving profiles. I would say im a slighty less then heavy user. Wifi always runs and i use gps for about an hour depending where im going. Now i normally charge her up every night but i have forgotten on ocasion and made it till i got home from work the next day.
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+1 on villan rom, i set an off screen OC to 300MHZ and an on screen to 1.5Ghz, and i get 20+ hours out of it with mild data. wifi off unless im home and location always turned off unless i need it.

Might give that villian rom a try, is there a specific kernel I should use? Or should I just use the one that's already on the villian rom?
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just download from the current thread, the 1.5 version, it has an kernel that OC's to 1.5GHZ and works well.
i would download as is, and if you like, play with the kernel later on if you really want to.

Or if you like sense get sense ginger. Im not sure how you can get the older version but you could try the new one.
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Okay so in my experience to get 'good" battery life with a g2 you need to turn off your push updates, stay off of data as much as possible, and only hook into wifi when you need it. Make sure your screen is on for no longer than 30 seconds, turn down your brightness, and set some profiles under setcpu to downclock you after you get to sub X battery life. Just make sure to increase the priority the lower your battery life goes.
The best and most consistent battery life figure I've gotten is 42-48 hr by generally not being a complete dickwad. If you flash a rom and have to download all your apps again it is going to suck you dry. I ran Cm6.1.1 with preshoots kernel for a goodly while and have pulled the same speed/battery life as I do on Virtuous with Advanced Kernel. It's taken a couple days for it to settle in but yeah, you're looking at 42ish with moderate net usage, full signal, and darn near constant texting.
Edit: Let me clarify. As your power goes down you should downclock in 5% increments. For every 5% less battery power you have, you need to increase the priority of that profile by 5%. Make a profile that is 100% priority but downclocks your cpu to 350ish max and 200ish min. Also something to keep in mind is that every piece of hardware is different. Some people can report fantastic life on the same kernel and OS. Just one of those weird machine god things.
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He is right, but lots of us has been through several ROMs and I can say that from the look of it all the ROMs use lots of battery life due to all the running processes. If you end up finding a ROM that supports your needs post it and let everyone know. Hope I helped

consistently mediocre battery life even after calibration and undervolt

I just can't seem to crack the battery life conondrum. I've calibrated (charge to 100%, wipe stats, then full cycle).
If I'm listening to music its consistently I'm sucking ~10% an hour, if idling ~4-5%. Which means I'm getting around same battery life as my old nexus one – mediocre, I end a working day with around 30-40%. If I want to go out after work i have to remind myself to charge during the day...
Right now I'm even running a mild setcpu undervolt (with faux123 kernel) and profile (screenoff max cpu 600mhz) but seeing not much improvement if any.
I am on gingerbread AT&T radio so thats not it either... any tips aside from 'use juice defender' (which I don't want to do as I want always on data instant push etc., I know juice defender basically shuts your data radio off)?
Note this is the same with stock gingerbread as well as the ROM and kernel I'm currently on (redpill, faux123 kernel)

I've done everything you have and i'm on a Bell Atrix....i have been looking into this for about a week or more and i just can't crack it either!!! it's driving me nuts and i have spent sooo many hours googling, searching xda and other sites and have tested MANY different methods and still can't seem to figure it out. For me i know its the phone idle...but what it is i can't tell, i have SystemPanel monitoring as as well as watchdog which i alternate with. Flashed the battery calibration fix and calibrated the meter blah blah blah....driving me nuts and i know its not a faulty battery because before i unlocked and flashed 2.3.4 i could get about 30 hours with heavy to moderate use!!!
For the love of god i wish a team of dev's would look into this!!!!!!!!

Honestly none of the faux kernels worked for me... Try gobstopper, stock kernel with watchdog was the only combo to give me good battery life. Not to mention lock sounds works properly, and its fast. All bell users should use it. Seriously... 19+ hours worth moderate usage.
phone idle is still high but it seems to be a slow drain.
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a.) not an option for me, AT&T phone
b.) I'm not seeing faux's kernel do any worse than stock kernel, I don't think its the kernel?
c.) yeah I tried system monitor as well, the highest process was opera at 3%.... 3 lousy percent lol

1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.

xploited said:
1. Calibrate your battery again (I have posted a guide in the General section)
2. Flash a kernel which allows overclocking, install SetCpu, add battery saving profiles (downclock to 500mhz on screen off, downclock to 800 mhz when battery less than 30%, downclock to 800mhz if temperature higher than 50C)
3. Freeze all MotoBlur bloatware (there's a guide in the general section)
4. Disable data and wifi unless you need it
5. Install Watchdog and set it up according to instructions I provided in my calibration thread.
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all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P

dLo GSR said:
all your solutions he basically either already did (1 and 2), or stated he does not want to (#4) =P
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Well, if you keep data or wifi turned on at all times, then there's no way you can have something more than mediocre battery life, sorry.
It's not the Atrix'es fault, its the brutal truth with all modern smartphones.

1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.

samcripp said:
1 personally run ninja speed freak, i get amazing battery life. simply amazing, days on worth of battery!
it is not a kernel issue, i simply dont know exactcly what hack in particular gives ninja the amazing battery life. but im working hard to determing this so i can share it.
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Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in

I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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wintermute000 said:
I'm not signed into motorblur either.
I do turn off wifi when out, but bluetooth is normally on.
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The people in this thread have listed all known steps to improving battery life.
If you really follow all of these guidelines and have bad battery life, you might want to try a battery replacement.
If you are sure your battery is not the problem, you might also want to try a couple of custom roms. Who knows maybe you will get lucky with one of them.

xploited said:
Perhaps, bypassing MotoBlur sign in
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Is there any way to log off from motoblur once you are in so you can stay offline? Of course any connection that gets cut will increase battery life.

I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.

tehrules said:
I don't understand all these battery life problems. Its got to be an app you are installing or your battery is buggered!
Admittedly when I first installed 2.3.4 OTA, battery life dropped like a stone, but I drained it flat, and then charged it up again and its been fine ever since.
I'm running on stock 2.3.4 without root, and I have quite a lot going on (IM's/Facebook/Twitter) and I can last well over a day and a half with moderate use, this includes sms and calls.
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Battery life is a very subjective issue. One person might be fine with the phone, while the other person will say battery life is terrible with the very same phone.
Besides the obvious drainage problems, it all depends on how you use the phone.

Honestly the best thing that worked for me was turning off "Syncing".
I currently have 3G on, BT on, ETC...
Syncing in the background killed my battery life. Now I usually make it through the day without the need for a top-off...
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Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Im in stock gingerbread and battery life is definitely worse than on stock 2.2.2 and and im basically running the same Apps. I am a heavy user and I used to drop 10% per hour. Switch on at 7am and by 5pm I was changing battery. Now I am switching around 3pm.
That's why I have 3 batteries!
I still think its better than nearly every other device I have owned but that nay be because battery is larger. I dont know why they don't design to put in 2400 mah batteries (my treo 650 had one!).
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The treo 650 also had a thickness double that of the Atrix .

The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.

edgeicator said:
The batteries in your phone are high-capacity lithium-ion batteries. This kind of battery technology cannot be simply reset and “re-calibrated.” When you follow the steps to recalibrate your battery and delete the batterystats.bin file from your phone, you are getting rid of more than what you think… Stored inside that batterystats.bin file, your phone keeps detailed logs of the capacity of your battery and uses it on how it can be utilized more efficiently. By deleting this file, it basically wipes the phone’s memory on what the battery can really do. This actually does damage to your battery by using up valuable charging cycles, all while giving a fraction of battery life and performance.
Now, you might be saying uh-oh, I’ve already re-calibrated my battery! What do I do?!
Well here’s your answer. Use your phone like normal. Yes, your battery and phone wont perform as good as it can for a while, but after a few days, you will notice that it starts doing better and better. Give it time, its trying to rebuild all those logs that you just deleted.
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This is the first time I am reading this sort of opinion, though I have read countless info on the subject.
If you want to make such a strong point, you better have source to back up your opinion (article, studies, other source of proof, etc).

These threads are all USELESS without NUMBERS.
Like another person with common sense already stated in this thread, you need to provide numbers.
GB has this improved tool (over 2.2) where you can see how your battery is wasting its juice. Watch those numbers for a few charges and then POST THEM TO COMPARE.
Saying your battery sucks without giving any numbers is like calling a color ugly.
(just in case someone misses the points, without numbers it's hard to compare, since it mainly becomes an opinion at that point)
P.S.- Please don't post "My battery lasts for over 9000 hours." and think that's enough info. Use your head.

[ICS] We need your help... Battery life...

Since the beginning of Android one thing has always been an issue with some of the greatest ROMs.
........................Battery life.
Every day lives are drained away by the pleasures and features of such fantastic ROMs... and such things at time seem so hard to bare that we try to change the lives of our battery by going to a different ROM.
So now you have a chance to make a difference, nay, an opportunity to change the lives of many...
This thread is strictly for how to save Battery life. CM9/AOKP have amazing battery life by themselves (but yet can always be made better) But for those on MIUI (Not so great battery life) this will be really useful.
Understand that everyone's device is different and although you may get 15 hours off MIUI/AOKP/CM9 others may only get 4 from them.
Post what it is that helps you achieve maximum Battery life. You may be the one to solve the cure to wowhowdidmybatterylifedroptwentypercentinanhourosis.
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help

Eclair
Just Eclair
Any Eclair
Shoot me......
But seriously, disabling 3g on ICS saves a ton of battery life.
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marcusant said:
Eclair
Just Eclair
Any Eclair
Shoot me......
But seriously, disabling 3g on ICS saves a ton of battery life.
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Uhhh,,,on ANY ROM...but not a practical solution.
I think the OP is looking for more practical solutions where they are not disabling major features of the smartphone.

kennysvgp08 said:
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
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1. CM9, although i think aokp does better.
2. Samurai Kernel, although just about any other ICS kernel should help. The biggest thing that you can change between kernels is the Governor and I/O depending on these two will determine how the CPU runs and in effect will determine battery life. Conservative is just about the best for battery life. If you need slickness and not too worried about battery Ondemand. If you want the best of both worlds i Think Wheatly is a good compromise. Also I/O , Sio is "simple" but VR is flash based so it tends to be the best. Otherwise Noop/Deadline. Also voltage.. undervolting will help limit the amount of well voltage to the CPU. So the lower you can get it the better.
3. Dont have tweaks i apply through CWM but i Run the V6 Supercharger, 3G turbocharger(optional), and the Kick Ass Kernelizer from Zeppelin.
4. I cannot stress this enough, Apps that say they save battery... run... which uses RAM and Resources... meaning its running trying to save you battery, Using battery. Which is stupid... and useless.
5. I have two a 3500Mah and the stock 1.5 year old 1500mah.
6. Typically with 3 hours of display over a period of 15hours (1500 mah) and around 5 hours of display over a period of 22 hours (3500 mah). However this is on wifi, 3g would deduct these a pretty good amount if you have sucky speeds.

He needs to get over it... lol. The only thing that truly saves battery life is managing your connections. There is no magic bullet unfortunately.

PLEASE! Don't tell us to turn off data and never sync the phone. Obviously if you don't use the phone the battery will last forever. I need a phone that can do the following:
Receive emails and texts as they are sent. (I use exchange push)
Last 18 hours on a standard or 1800 mAh battery.
I can just barely make that with stock FC09, I'd love to run ICS but with either CM9 or AOKP I barely make 10 hours.

schnowdapowda said:
He needs to get over it... lol. The only thing that truly saves battery life is managing your connections. There is no magic bullet unfortunately.
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Why must people post unhelpful comments such as the one above? I don't understand the logic there...
anyways since this was aimed at miui I get pretty good battery life with it... (3.5 hours screen on time) nyan v5 ftw! No special features... uv a lot (won't list my settings cuz every phone is different) and no oc... used to use jd but, it saves more battery if you just switch things off manually... really though until I flashed nyan my battery life was atrocious, but now just about on par with the peoples rom (4.5 to 5 hours screen on time!) Oh yeah, all this with the stock battery...

poit said:
PLEASE! Don't tell us to turn off data and never sync the phone. Obviously if you don't use the phone the battery will last forever. I need a phone that can do the following:
Receive emails and texts as they are sent. (I use exchange push)
Last 18 hours on a standard or 1800 mAh battery.
I can just barely make that with stock FC09, I'd love to run ICS but with either CM9 or AOKP I barely make 10 hours.
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On aokp with 1800 mAh i can do about 3Hours of screen on time and 15 Hours of battery life and my phone was awake 75% of the time.
Screenie was at 15%
This was stock Everything Except ROM haha

XxLostSoulxX said:
On aokp with 1800 mAh i can do about 3Hours of screen on time and 15 Hours of battery life and my phone was awake 75% of the time.
Screenie was at 15%
This was stock Everything Except ROM haha
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Think about if your screen was on while the device was awake..your time would be cut in half
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Oh my good golly gosh.
I just realized the best battery life I ever got was on DK28.
So take that. Let's go Frankenstein.
1. CM9 KANG June 02 build.
2. Stock
3. Services for V6 and Search Key Remap
4. Ha!
5. Stock. Came with device...need new one.
6. Depends on use. But I usually get the estimated six hours consistently.
7. If you're going to use a task killer just use the built in one. Overclocking is bad, and in my experience so is undervolting. GTalk, official Facebook application(especially this. Even with notifications off it still is always going), G+, and more are always running and are a drain. No live wallpapers, and no widgets that require constant updating. As much black as possible. Don't use third-party batteries. Obviously turning off 3G, 4G, sync, and such will dramatically increase your battery life.
WAIT! Why am I writing this? There is a freaking optimization guide. Why does this exist? For ****s sake.

Running AOKP build 36, stock, FC09 modem 15 hours running takes me down to 50% batt hour of screen time, constant crappy wifi connection in an area with crappy cell signal sync for everything but email and g chat is every 2 hours (weather and all that). Big thing to save batt for me was turning down my screen brightness. I was also getting crappy battery life till i let this rom install run the battery down to 5% twice.

flastnoles11 said:
Why must people post unhelpful comments such as the one above? I don't understand the logic there...
anyways since this was aimed at miui I get pretty good battery life with it... (3.5 hours screen on time) nyan v5 ftw! No special features... uv a lot (won't list my settings cuz every phone is different) and no oc... used to use jd but, it saves more battery if you just switch things off manually... really though until I flashed nyan my battery life was atrocious, but now just about on par with the peoples rom (4.5 to 5 hours screen on time!) Oh yeah, all this with the stock battery...
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By no means was I saying never enable your 3g/4g.. but the fact remains that the single best way to conserve your battery life is to be smart about managing your connections. I.e. not leaving it on ALL day and to only turn sync on when your actually checking your e-mail.. be that through an app like juice defender or manually toggling. If that's not more helpful than what you posted (UV a lot and don't overclock??? Duh.) than my bad bro!

darkierawr said:
Oh my good golly gosh.
I just realized the best battery life I ever got was on DK28.
So take that. Let's go Frankenstein.
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Something we can all get behind here... I remember I used to get 24+ hours on froyo w/o customs kernels. Le sigh..

ÜBER™ put's it pretty well.
ÜBER™ said:
1. CM9, although i think aokp does better.
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-CM9 still seems cleaner, but AOKP seems better.
ÜBER™ said:
2. Samurai Kernel, although just about any other ICS kernel should help. The biggest thing that you can change between kernels is the Governor and I/O depending on these two will determine how the CPU runs and in effect will determine battery life. Conservative is just about the best for battery life. If you need slickness and not too worried about battery Ondemand. If you want the best of both worlds i Think Wheatly is a good compromise. Also I/O , Sio is "simple" but VR is flash based so it tends to be the best. Otherwise Noop/Deadline. Also voltage.. undervolting will help limit the amount of well voltage to the CPU. So the lower you can get it the better.
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-Spot on.
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3. Dont have tweaks i apply through CWM but i Run the V6 Supercharger, 3G turbocharger(optional), and the Kick Ass Kernelizer from Zeppelin.
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-I don't use the supercharger, but I do apply the same oom ram mods. These help close unused apps when they exceed the applied limit. Based on my experience, it's kept apps under control.
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4. I cannot stress this enough, Apps that say they save battery... run... which uses RAM and Resources... meaning its running trying to save you battery, Using battery. Which is stupid... and useless.
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-THIS +9000! An app that spends all of it's time stopping other apps is wasting just as much "battery." I maintain, Advanced Task Killer, with NO, I repeat NO AUTOKILL. Set a widget on your home page, tap it occasionally to make sure everything is closed. Same effect as the built in task manager, but one single convenient tap.
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5. I have two a 3500Mah and the stock 1.5 year old 1500mah.
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-I use two stock 1500mah batteries and one 3500mah. My wife has the same. All are about 1.5 years old now.
ÜBER™ said:
6. Typically with 3 hours of display over a period of 15hours (1500 mah) and around 5 hours of display over a period of 22 hours (3500 mah). However this is on wifi, 3g would deduct these a pretty good amount if you have sucky speeds.
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-These numbers are pretty much the same for me. I almost always average 3 hours display on the stock battery between games and internet. 5-6 hours on the 3500, but I'm pretty sure it's not reaaallly the 3500mah it claims to be... . I NEVER turn off wifi or 3G, but google autosync is off until I edit my contacts.

schnowdapowda said:
By no means was I saying never enable your 3g/4g.. but the fact remains that the single best way to conserve your battery life is to be smart about managing your connections. I.e. not leaving it on ALL day and to only turn sync on when your actually checking your e-mail.. be that through an app like juice defender or manually toggling. If that's not more helpful than what you posted (UV a lot and don't overclock??? Duh.) then my bad bro!
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I don't turn off my connections at all and get great battery life... and seens how the op states don't say anything about disabling 3g or anything id say your comment was the least helpful on the thread... but at least you tried... don't get into a battle of witts with me, I'm afraid your unarmed...

flastnoles11 said:
I don't turn off my connections at all and get great battery life... and seens how the op states don't say anything about disabling 3g or anything id say your comment was the least helpful on the thread... but at least you tried... don't get into a battle of witts with me, I'm afraid your unarmed...
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Firstly, I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you. Its pointless. Secondly, the op makes no mention whatsoever of connection status. Thirdly, while you might get decent battery life w/o doing it.. I guarantee you'd do better if you did. Straight facts.
Edit: I am armed. With a small slide out keyboard.

Please follow the format specified by the OP. List the 7 items. Bickering in this thread will not be tolerated.
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kennysvgp08 said:
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
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1. CM9
2.ShadowKernel (I find nyan colonel to be a little more draining) SIO, conservative
3. None
4.System Tuner Pro configured to UV, under clock to 400mhz on screen off, to close apps that don't automatically restart themselves, configure "auto-kill" so its not as aggressive with killing apps that just stay on, and a few sysctrl edits that I honestly don't think make a difference.
5.stock epic 1500 mAh, my sprint store wouldn't give me an sgsII battery
6. 12-18 hrs depending on use, though it has definitely drained quicker
7.be easy on data! (There kennyG) turn off wifi when your not near your networks, turn off mobile data, Bluetooth, and autosync when your not needing it. (Unless you absolutely need PUSH email for your job or whatever though honestly as far as my job goes if its important enough for me to need the message immediately they will simply dial my phone number. Yeah I'm old fashioned.

- Cm9
- Shadow kernel
- No tweaks
-1800 D710 battery
- I get 15-20 hours depending on how much music I stream during the day.
- I got the biggest boost by using the profiles in CM9 to optimize my connections and syncing depending on where I'm at during the day. I have Wifi at work and home, so I have it toggle my data off during that time period and vice versa when I'm mobile.
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Using AOKP with shadow kernel.
Best thing I did to help with battery life was to turn off all notification options in the FB app. And I set haxsync to download photos only when plugged in.
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