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[Q] Is voodoo worth the hassle?

Seems like there are a lot of posts/threads with problems.
I'm currently running JT's super clean with 11/06 test non voodoo kernel and few different mods/themes etc...
contemplating voodoo.

andmer said:
Seems like there are a lot of posts/threads with problems.
I'm currently running JT's super clean with 11/06 test non voodoo kernel and few different mods/themes etc...
contemplating voodoo.
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Short answer? no.

Just use the Lagfix in the market, Safe easy....and easily uninstallable

BingoDanny said:
Just use the Lagfix in the market, Safe easy....and easily uninstallable
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It's not uninstalled much easier and all it creates is high benchmarks. There is not the same type of performance gain as with voodoo.
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I had some serious problems with voodoo and I wont install it again, but lots of people love it and have no problems. There are lots of posts on here if you do get in trouble with it tho - up to you I guess.
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Hmmm i begg to differ ive tried both. Fixes browser slow loads and market. I noticed no difference. And im not much into Benchmarks. Whats the point.
Youll be hard pressed to find 5 apps that the fascinate can play.......that a old htc eris cant.
Lag fixes are artficial fixes in my eyes. but thats my opinion....im not a techie!

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Just use the Lagfix in the market, Safe easy....and easily uninstallable
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The ex2 lagfix isn't safe: it's prone to data corruption. I suppose if you're reflashing every other day this won't matter so much.
Voodoo is only ever a hassle on uninstalling, so it depends how often you're planning to swap ROMs. If you just want to set your phone up to an optimum point and leave it there for a while, it's essential. If you're flash-happy with new ROMs, you may want to hold off until we get a Voodoo-enabled CWM.

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s44 said:
The ex2 lagfix isn't safe: it's prone to data corruption. I suppose if you're reflashing every other day this won't matter so much.
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Um, sorry, but I call BS on this one. I have not seen one single thread on this forum that has anyone reporting days corruption resulting from the ext2 lag fix. Furthermore, I have been running it for quite a while, and have had absolutely no data corruption of any kind. I'd like to see some proof to back this claim.
Also, I have enabled and disabled it several times, all without incident, so I would say it's very safe when compared with Voodoo, even if the reward isn't as great.
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You are welcome to call BS, but ext2 has absolutely NO journaling capability. Google it a bit, you will see there is a Hugely increased chance of data loss/corruption on power loss.
Its a fact, not an opinion. Hence, ext3 was superseded by ext3, and eventually, ext4.

Is your phone slow?

Lately i've noticed my phone becoming infuriatingly slow. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but I don't remember it ever being this slow. Overclocking it gives the tiniest speed boost, but later on the phone becomes unusable and I have to reboot.
Are there any ROM's I could use to get it to run better? Besides stock.

Have you tried to uninstall some apps? Maybe there are some apps which don't work correct.
I recommend you to use a custom rom anyway.
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a-k-t-w said:
Lately i've noticed my phone becoming infuriatingly slow. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but I don't remember it ever being this slow. Overclocking it gives the tiniest speed boost, but later on the phone becomes unusable and I have to reboot.
Are there any ROM's I could use to get it to run better? Besides stock.
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maybe an app like virus killer app is running.(knowing our CPU isnt much great)

Im using gingerbread and dont have problem with speed at all. With stock i has to reboot some time
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i've tried floyobread even it becomes slow when installing apps, so use advance task killer to kill apps.

a-k-t-w said:
Lately i've noticed my phone becoming infuriatingly slow. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but I don't remember it ever being this slow. Overclocking it gives the tiniest speed boost, but later on the phone becomes unusable and I have to reboot.
Are there any ROM's I could use to get it to run better? Besides stock.
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Check the new thread in development forum .

Lag while installing apps I can understand, but my phone generally runs like a dog all the time. It's annoying as hell.
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Check the new thread in development forum .
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What new thread?

I used GingerDX v006 freshly it was smooth and fast but when i installed some applications it slowed down my phone i uninstalled those application but not worked
then i installed GDX v007 i found a bunch of bugs in it and performance same as v006
now i m using v006 with a low performance.

Use GingerDX 008.
Uninstall all system apps that you don´t need.
Use a task killer.
If you do this, it should be smooth.

I think you have to use Advance Task Killer, it helped me a lot. There are some apps that are runnning back and you dont ever notice. This may be the cause of your phone's poor speed.

I'm using GingerDX and I'm really satisfied. My phone is hell fast and I don't use any task killers.
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I would use GingerDX but I do not like the developers attitude towards the whole thing. If there is something you do not like, his response is practically "TOO BAD, its MY rom, I do what I like."
For instance, he blatantly refuses to remove the credits from the lockscreen. That is just a god awful place to put it and that bothers me to no end.

a-k-t-w said:
I would use GingerDX but I do not like the developers attitude towards the whole thing. If there is something you do not like, his response is practically "TOO BAD, its MY rom, I do what I like."
For instance, he blatantly refuses to remove the credits from the lockscreen. That is just a god awful place to put it and that bothers me to no end.
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I think he's perfectly within his rights. He's not coding the rom for YOU. It's his rom for his personal phone that he is willing to share with us for FREE..

Okay. That wasn't what I said at all. My point was is that it bothers me and so I don't use it. End of story.
I still respect the developer and appreciate his work. As I understand quite a bit of his modules are in the ROM I am currently using.

[Q] Help a fellow Epic user out please!

So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
I've flashed a number of custom ROM's that speed up the phone significantly and drastically improve battery life. The only problem is after a few days of use I almost always start to get intermittent problems like random reboots, force closes and texts not going through etc.
I always follow the install instructions to a "t" and I still get problems. I must be missing a step somewhere along the way or not fully understand the cons of running custom ROM's or something.
I'm at my wits end. At one time I thought it must be the phone so I swapped with Sprint but I still have the same problems.
Currently I am running Scrambled EGgs22 V7 and I love it (when it works). I've tried bonsai, urban roms, you name it. Its the same results with every one. They work fantastic at first and then slowly become unusable.
Is there anybody out there who has experienced something similar to this and can help me remedy?

Having journaling enabled does help with data corruption if you find yourself having to start over a lot due to force closes.
Are you under/overclocking and/or undervolting at all? IIRC, stock speeds are ~400/1000Mhz.

Sounds like journaling is youjr answer. Make sure it is enabled and never pull the battery without shutting the phone completely down..after the vibration.
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Kafluke said:
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
I've flashed a number of custom ROM's that speed up the phone significantly and drastically improve battery life. The only problem is after a few days of use I almost always start to get intermittent problems like random reboots, force closes and texts not going through etc.
I always follow the install instructions to a "t" and I still get problems. I must be missing a step somewhere along the way or not fully understand the cons of running custom ROM's or something.
I'm at my wits end. At one time I thought it must be the phone so I swapped with Sprint but I still have the same problems.
Currently I am running Scrambled EGgs22 V7 and I love it (when it works). I've tried bonsai, urban roms, you name it. Its the same results with every one. They work fantastic at first and then slowly become unusable.
Is there anybody out there who has experienced something similar to this and can help me remedy?
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Kafluke said:
So I'm really struggling here. I hate using stock ROM's because the battery life really blows and they are slow.
That's about the biggest lie over stock.. I started with a custom rom and it sucked the world's biggest donkey balls on battery life. It can last me the whole day on EC05. Just gotta learn how to optimize bro.
SchizioPunk's Epic Experience 2.1 Eclair -> Odin to EC05 Froyo. Rooted. Bloatware Removed. Voodoo Sound V9 Module Loaded. TouchWiz4. Enjoying my Customized Stock Experience.
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Run 'Fix Permissions' from Rom Manager. That has solved FC problems for me in the past.

Have you tried reformatting your SD card? If it has gotten mucked up, I imagine that could start causing issues.

justppc said:
Run 'Fix Permissions' from Rom Manager. That has solved FC problems for me in the past.
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Dont forget clearing dalvik and cache does also. I'm assuming people think that'll erase their stuff but It doesn't.
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So how do I turn on journaling exactly?

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So how do I turn on journaling exactly?
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Edit: there should be a zip file that came with Epicurean to enable journaling.
There I a zip file that you can flash. I'll look for it
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I can't win. I enabled Journaling and my performance and speed went to crap. I guess I either have to suffer through the crappy stock rom or deal with force closes and random crapiness with a custom rom.

Kafluke said:
I can't win. I enabled Journaling and my performance and speed went to crap. I guess I either have to suffer through the crappy stock rom or deal with force closes and random crapiness with a custom rom.
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If you want to disable journaling then just make sure to never shutdown your phone improperly or drop it and keep good backups to restore from. I like to do a nand every 3 or 4 days then I can always do a restore advanced data only.
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kennyglass123 said:
If you want to disable journaling then just make sure to never shutdown your phone improperly or drop it and keep good backups to restore from. I like to do a nand every 3 or 4 days then I can always do a restore advanced data only.
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Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.

Did you try the stock EG22 leak? Thats what I use, deodexed from decadence with the plus kernal from chris41g. It performs well and is the best battery life I ever had.

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Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
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True, that is why your $400 device comes with stock ROMs that are RFS so none of these FCs happen unless a third party app is written poorly. If you run custom ROMs these are the chances and prices you pay.
A $2000 computer still requires regular backups for the very same reason.

Kafluke said:
Are you serious? I don't ever drop my phone or shut it down improperly. I shouldn't have to back up my phone and restore twice a week in order to have a working device.I should be able to use this 400 dollar device without restoring it every fourth day or charging it twice a day.
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BUT! Your forgetting something: you paid $400 for a phone
which Sammy provided to you via the vender of your choice with a STOCK ROM preloaded which works that way they have wanted.
Now from the moment you came over to the dark side and preloaded a rom there are good things and bad things that come with the package and you can't blame sammy for them.
Also, this is the world of trial and error: what may work fine for 500 phones will not work sometimes with yours. Every part of your phone though it could of been made the same day and from the same batch of my phone, are different and this will make you have different results.
Keep that in mind, your in a world that pose much risk to your device, but that's the fun part! Taking the risk and rolling with it!
Sent from an Epic with 4G

I am running SFR 1.2 with journaling on and can get all day with 3 to 4 hours screen on time , no force closes or any problems and all the smooth and fast goodness that comes with the rom.
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megabiteg said:
BUT! Your forgetting something: you paid $400 for a phone
which Sammy provided to you via the vender of your choice with a STOCK ROM preloaded which works that way they have wanted.
Now from the moment you came over to the dark side and preloaded a rom there are good things and bad things that come with the package and you can't blame sammy for them.
Also, this is the world of trial and error: what may work fine for 500 phones will not work sometimes with yours. Every part of your phone though it could of been made the same day and from the same batch of my phone, are different and this will make you have different results.
Keep that in mind, your in a world that pose much risk to your device, but that's the fun part! Taking the risk and rolling with it!
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I don't have any problems with the stock rom. I'd love to have a stock rom that doesn't blow on battery life.
I understand that there are risks and pros and cons with custom roms but I can't seem to get a custom rom that is stable in any way shape or form. I assume that its my fault because I don't see anybody else having the same problems.
I guess I'm just looking for some help in getting a "half decent" custom rom experience but I can't even get that far. Without fail, every time I load a custom rom I get force closes and random issues. Then I go back to stock rom and I'm charging after two hours of use. I can't win.
@mark8503 I'll give that stock EG22 leak a shot and see what happens.
Thank you for everyone's help!

@mark8503
I assuming this is the stock rom you speak of:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183558
and this is the kernel:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185221
Please confirm.

IMO, if turning journaling on slowed down your phone enough for you to notice, something went wrong
I've run the on and off zips, and the difference is hard to see
Also, since RFS has a journal feature, I can't see how EXT4 with journaling on would be slower, all other factors being the same
You want stable and solid, ODIN an EC05 modem, install SRF 1.2, do you voltage setting, and call it a day
If you want the bleeding edge, you just have to accept you need precautions, as on the edge, **** happens.
Pick your poison and go with it
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5:50 pm and battery is awesome! So far so good, this deodexed stock EG22 is running great, no FC's, no random reboots and battery life is excellent with chris41gs kernel. I just hope I didn't jinx it.
I'll report back after a few days of use.

Do custom Roms and kernels remove the lag?

Is it worth it to unlock bootloader and root for a custom ROM and kernel? Does it make a big difference in speed? Thanks and if so, any suggestion on a ROM and kernel to try out first?
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nazem said:
Is it worth it to unlock bootloader and root for a custom ROM and kernel? Does it make a big difference in speed? Thanks and if so, any suggestion on a ROM and kernel to try out first?
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I have been a long time visitor to this site and every question like this has been given the same typical response "go try a few ROMs and see what you think". I have flashed a variety of ROMs on my N7 but have yet to find one which truly provides the user with a lag free experience across the board. I personally found SmoothROM to be one of the closest, though there are aspects of that ROM I'm not too keen on. One ROM I always find myself returning to though is Slim Bean; I guess you could make a start with those two. Irrespective of ROM I find turning sync off and removing all widgets etc. helps, though this shouldn't really have to be done!
Some will say my device is faulty, but who really knows. I guess some folk are simply less tolerant of lag than others (me being one of the former).

While it depends on the choice of the individual concerned, I for one do believe that rooting a device does have its advantages. ROMs and Kernels are a matter of choice but the most efficient way of reducing lags and increasing RAM is by removing bloatware and carrier/vendor/manufacturer apps.

diverblue said:
I have been a long time visitor to this site and every question like this has been given the same typical response "go try a few ROMs and see what you think". I have flashed a variety of ROMs on my N7 but have yet to find one which truly provides the user with a lag free experience across the board. I personally found SmoothROM to be one of the closest, though there are aspects of that ROM I'm not too keen on. One ROM I always find myself returning to though is Slim Bean; I guess you could make a start with those two. Irrespective of ROM I find turning sync off and removing all widgets etc. helps, though this shouldn't really have to be done!
Some will say my device is faulty, but who really knows. I guess some folk are simply less tolerant of lag than others (me being one of the former).
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Thanks for your reply. With all these rumors of 4.3 coming in the next few days, i'll wait a couple of days then probably flash slimbean first.

Tianhe said:
While it depends on the choice of the individual concerned, I for one do believe that rooting a device does have its advantages. ROMs and Kernels are a matter of choice but the most efficient way of reducing lags and increasing RAM is by removing bloatware and carrier/vendor/manufacturer apps.
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What is there that i could remove though considering it's a nexus?

Well the nexus 7 doesn't have much lag for me on stock with 1.7ghz over clock. It sits on the dock not used much all day so battery life isn't an issue, but it does only have a gig of ram where 2gb is ideal
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Every ROM I have been on has had lag with any kernel I have tried. Doesn't matter if it is stock or custom. What you should be asking is what tweaks and settings you can apply to reduce that lag. For instance, removing Window animation. That has drastically reduced lag for me. Every device has its own characteristics. What one person uses on their Nexus 7 may work wonders for you or may make things worse. You really have to find out for r yourself.
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I'll add my own "It depends" here as well. Though I've found half the time people who use apps more heavily kill off the lag by simply turning off surface dithering (hasn't really been a problem for my Nexus 7 though, it mainly impacts graphical apps that don't utilize GPU acceleration).

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What is there that i could remove though considering it's a nexus?
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Yes, its a Nexus (lucky you) so that scope is limited. But I even remove apps considered sacrosanct e.g. Google components like Search, Dial etc. Like a said, the choice depends on the individual. However, u have a narrow playing field considering its a Nexus!

Tianhe said:
Yes, its a Nexus (lucky you) so that scope is limited. But I even remove apps considered sacrosanct e.g. Google components like Search, Dial etc. Like a said, the choice depends on the individual. However, u have a narrow playing field considering its a Nexus!
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I'll mess around with diff. apps to see what affects it the most. Thanks for your feedback man, it was helpful.

IRX120 said:
Well the nexus 7 doesn't have much lag for me on stock with 1.7ghz over clock. It sits on the dock not used much all day so battery life isn't an issue, but it does only have a gig of ram where 2gb is ideal
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Yeah i think it's the RAM that probably hurts peformance. I hope the sequel has 2 gigs though.

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Yeah i think it's the RAM that probably hurts performance. I hope the sequel has 2 gigs though.
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But at least it's aosp and not something like sense on 1gb ram.
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kbeezie said:
But at least it's aosp and not something like sense on 1gb ram.
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Yeah that's true.
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I've mastered it, now is it worth rooting?

Since there's no real development yet for this amazing tab, is there even a point to rooting? Any bug fixes? Battery improvements? Performance increase? Or will rooting just void warranty, doing nothing more than wasting a $30 1yr plan?
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prichm1992 said:
Since there's no real development yet for this amazing tab, is there even a point to rooting? Any bug fixes? Battery improvements? Performance increase? Or will rooting just void warranty, doing nothing more than wasting a $30 1yr plan?
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Depends on your demands from the tablet. The tablet is already optimized fairly well so rooting won't help out performance and battery as much as it would on say... a Samsung or nexus tablet, but rooting is always something I do because of the apps I like to use. Apps like clean master and battery doctor need root access in order to function at their full potential. But if you don't use apps that require rooting, I would just hold out; android 4.4.3 just came out for other devices and hopefully its only a matter of time before it comes out for the Tegra Note 7 as well.

That pretty much answers my question. I rooted my old galaxy note 2 to dramatically increase performance while gaining a modest increase in battery life. Along the way, I made the colors more vibrant with less LCD brightness, the speakers louder with less static, the processor faster with less heat, etc etc. If that's impossible with the tn7, I'll stay away from root
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As for demands, I demand gaming performance and at least good (6 hours screen on) battery life
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Well if you are gaming, then you might want to consider rooting for one feature only. Gaming apps take up a lot of memory and if you're on stock 4.4.2, google has blocked all apps fro installing onto your external sd card. so if you're planning on installing games on your external microsd card, you're going to have to root it and install the fix sd card fix so that you can install apps on the sd card. The external sd card can still be used for video files and music but apps can't be installed to it unless you have the fix installed. If that's not something that bothers you, then I would leave it unrooted. If thats absolutely something you need or want, rooting is the only thing you can do to get that feature back right now.