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New to android And Gnote!

Hello,
Just got my phone yesterday and this is my first android phone i am pretty sure my previous phone Windows phone was a lot lot better at most of the things and performance too!!
some times i see lag in scrolling menus,etc! on a Dual core it was hard to believe but anyways i hope it gets better with ICS soon.
So at the moment can anyone tell me where to get good apps (marketplace sucks to find apps)
and some ways to improve battery usage with keeping phone in push mode?
I would highly appericiate if anyone can give me a clue of good ICS custom ROM build there are so many builds and its highly confusing.

There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
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Amen to that. Viamonte is absolutely right, some of IPhone and window phone users have little idea what a good Android phone can do. Anyway welcome to Android, it's worth the switch.
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Viamonte;21979680
As a last Note said:
why not? Curios.
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CorruptedSanity said:
why not? Curios.
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No idea, but it isn't. No matter how much you customize and alter your Android, you'll always find instances where it doesn't wake, or lag on scrolling, or screen changing, or whatever. After using a Titan, a N9 and a 4S for extended periods of time, I can easily say that's an Android problem, no matter how good the phone or the software is.
Except ICS, I haven't tried it yet...

Yes no android I've ever used was as fluid as an Iphone sadly.
I used a Desire and an HD on 2.0 and 2.1 and now have the Note on 2.3.

Android 4.0 is really stable, my kid plays games with my phone and he got gb almost everytime reboot twice a day, but ICS haven't even once rebooted in a month. And android 4.0 is really fluid, due to hw-acceleration, but still not 100% fluid i think, maybe because i have unofficially ics on i9000
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Update to the latest GB firmware (LA4?), it will resolve all your lag issues.

Android Lag Argument Nullified
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBTqYvJVHCA
I know, I know quad core, BUT people say ICS makes a world of difference on any device 4 cores or 1!!

Viamonte said:
There's only one ICS thread for the Note, and it's on Development. About apps for performance and battery, i suggest applying either custom kernel (AbyssNote's or FM) and using SetCpu or Tegrak for overclock and undervolt. Custom launchers might help too, being Go Launcher and ADW two of the most famous. CPUSpy might help detecting any apps that are unlawfuly sucking juice or strange core behavior.
As a last Note, tough (pun intended) your dual core Android will never be as fluid as your 800mhz WP. That's the price we pay for the ability to customize absolutely everything.
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Yes i saw that ICS thread but i was little set back to see it isnt stable yet and being stated as it wont get camera till official ICS rom so i am looking at a no camera rom for at least 2 months for sure so cant dive into ICS as of now.
Your reply helps a lot
Was thinking if i can directly go to install any custom rom although i found more than 9 ROMs on the first page and all looked so same but not being good with technical of android i was thinking if you can suggest me a good rom.
I dont care about the theme and visuals at all i need cutting edge performance and battery life thats the only thing needed/
Do let me know if you have any specific rom in mind.

I guess N7000 and your i9000 both are not the same so probably i cant install ICS in GNote (at least not the stable one right?)

Crummy Performance

I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.

Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".

What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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SirRhor said:
I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!

scottx . said:
Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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theoreticaljerk said:
I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!

I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.

cheatman said:
The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!

Is there really a point?

I'm going to pick up a nexus 7 soon but i'd just like to ask a question.
Is there really a point loading custom roms and kernels?
I know OC is not necassary but it i cool but seriously, whats the point of custom roms and kernels over all when you have a device that is going to get all the updates straight from google for a very long time in which we will not need to port to this device and also this game can run any game with spectacular performance and no lagg. And thanks to project butter as well.
So is there really a reason? Can you please tell me why?
And by the way do you need root to install free apks?

I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?

brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
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Yeah your right.
But what i'm just confused on is which rom or kernel is the best

I'm sticking with the stock ROM but I have it heavily modded.
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Ftwisawesome said:
I'm going to pick up a nexus 7 soon but i'd just like to ask a question.
Is there really a point loading custom roms and kernels?
I know OC is not necassary but it i cool but seriously, whats the point of custom roms and kernels over all when you have a device that is going to get all the updates straight from google for a very long time in which we will not need to port to this device and also this game can run any game with spectacular performance and no lagg. And thanks to project butter as well.
So is there really a reason? Can you please tell me why?
And by the way do you need root to install free apks?
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Your mis informed if you think the Nexus 7 doesn't lag in games at stock.Play a game like spiderman with a fps program running on your nexus .. it's a joke at stock speeds. Even the update for PuddleTHD causes major stutter on some new maps added. The list could go on and on .. Asphalt 7 is another game that at stock speeds is a joke...
Custom roms takes off bloatware and adds features and enhances that bring out the true potential of the tablet.
I'm loving the new features of the CM10 Jelly Bean ROM + Motley Kernel . The added landscape mode is especially useful at the home screen... The pro's of adding a custom rom to your table is endless.

There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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tribestros said:
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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Depends on the user really. I could list a 100 reasons why I choose a newer rom over stock.
But instead I'll list my top 4 I noticed right off the bat going to CM10;
1.)increased stability
2.)No bloatware
3).reponsiveness..touch screen especially
4.) increased boot times

Increased boot times would mean that it takes longer to boot?
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tribestros said:
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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Well, a second advantage of a custom ROM is to add new features, e.g. navigation/notification bar customizations, theming, lock screen options, that aren't present in the stock ROM. It really beats me why the google team hasn't been rushing to kang all the CM, for example, features (Apple et al would be even more left in the dust), but I guess that's bureaucracy for you.

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Well, a second advantage of a custom ROM is to add new features, e.g. navigation/notification bar customizations, theming, lock screen options, that aren't present in the stock ROM. It really beats me why the google team hasn't been rushing to kang all the CM, for example, features (Apple et al would be even more left in the dust), but I guess that's bureaucracy for you.
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Perhaps it's a complexity thing? Google are keeping the Nexus deliberately simple; let manufacturers build their own themes and skins, let the community do the same. But a lot of people getting the Nexus 7 on Christmas Day won't want to know about what modifications could be done to their N7, right..?

Let me play devils advocate. How many who report improved performance, whether it's the touch screen, graphics or other, have validate that perception with hard evidence?
Don't get me wrong, and please try and avoid the flaming. I've nothing against flashing new ROM's or kernals as I've done it with my Fire. I'm just curious.

dferrey said:
Let me play devils advocate. How many who report improved performance, whether it's the touch screen, graphics or other, have validate that perception with hard evidence?
Don't get me wrong, and please try and avoid the flaming. I've nothing against flashing new ROM's or kernals as I've done it with my Fire. I'm just curious.
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The only real performance improvement is overclocking. Anything else is just placebo in my book.

glenn37216 said:
Depends on the user really. I could list a 100 reasons why I choose a newer rom over stock.
But instead I'll list my top 4 I noticed right off the bat going to CM10;
1.)increased stability
2.)No bloatware
3).reponsiveness..touch screen especially
4.) increased boot times
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Bloat ware? Isn't this a nexus device?
Where got lost ware?

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Bloat ware? Isn't this a nexus device?
Where got lost ware?
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What you call bloat and what I call bloat may be different.
G+, Talk, Magazines, Korean Keyboard--All bloat to me. I won't use any of those.
If I ever needed them, I could always re-d/l from the play store. I don't need it built in.
Movies, debatable for me. After watching the free movie, I'll probably never use it again.

brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
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I'm thinking of doing the same as you. Only thing holding me back is that most ROMs I've tried are buggy, at least a tiny bit. I'm on stock ROM with trinity kernel, doing just fine. Don't play many games, so performance bumps aren't necessary for me.
Does removing G+ and such really do all that much? I don't use them, so I figured they'd just be dormant somewhere. Do they slow the system down that much?
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glenn37216 said:
Your mis informed if you think the Nexus 7 doesn't lag in games at stock.Play a game like spiderman with a fps program running on your nexus .. it's a joke at stock speeds. Even the update for PuddleTHD causes major stutter on some new maps added. The list could go on and on .. Asphalt 7 is another game that at stock speeds is a joke...
Custom roms takes off bloatware and adds features and enhances that bring out the true potential of the tablet.
I'm loving the new features of the CM10 Jelly Bean ROM + Motley Kernel . The added landscape mode is especially useful at the home screen... The pro's of adding a custom rom to your table is endless.
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Those games are not optimized for Tegra 3 (except of course Puddle) and there are numerous posts about them.
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Jellybean, disappointed with project butter. anyone else?

I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?

Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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I can definitely see a huge difference it terms of smoothness. You should probably delete some apps you don't need or do a factory wipe.
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I mirror your experience, however am still hopeful that when Sprint releases the actual files, things will be better. I haven't experienced JB on any of the newer devices, but the reports are good. Life is all about expectations ... guess we should be thankful that we're even receiving the updates.

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Nope I can see the difference its faster & smoother than ICS open app draw opens fast in ICS it took a little longer jellybean is the best OS update from Google so far 2 big thumbs up & I'm getting the same or a little better battery life than I was on ICS
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FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.

You still should keep in mind that we're on a 2 year old device... yeah yeah the original Nexus S came out in Dec 2010... not quite 2 years, but it's based off of tech that debuted in the original Galaxy S in the summer of that year. It's great hardware, but it's expected that we'll have a tough time dealing with newer OS' ... quite frankly I've considered going back to a stripped down CM7 just because of the smoothness compared to ICS (and JB) ... we're just running into serious RAM limitations on this device.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Try different kernels as well with the rom.
I definitely see a difference,
I have no more lag at all with what i used to before.

I think, the UI can be a bit smoother, but multitasking and opening/closing apps works smoooooth!

Much faster and smoother than ICS.
Running Jelly Belly 1.5.1
Don't expect 2 much from old device like nexus s.

Google is getting sued for project butter being "too smooth" by apple because apple claimed smoothness was patented.
Kidding,
But, I could see it happening.
JB is 3 steps ahead of any other OS :x

I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.

I just don't like the fact that it keeps the phone awake over night. You ask me jellybean trying to do too much in the background. Last night I turned off 3g. When I woke up someone sent me a mms at 12am. When I check the battery stats it kept my phone awake trying to download a mms without data on. Not to smart
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Dialer slow, opening Apps in Settings freaking slow, chrome slow...

JB gave new life to my NS, definitely the smoothest it has ever been, and I don't feel the need to OC. As I do with all phones/roms, all transitions and animations are turned off, including the third one added with JB. Also using Nova launcher, but am going to try Apex again now that they updated it with JB base.
And the biggest thing I noticed is how quickly the recents come up now, it's instant. I honestly didn't think that would be possible on the NS.

Piaband said:
I have been loading most of the patchwork JB Roms that have been popping up here. I like some things about it, like Google Now, but I cant seem to understand "project butter." I cannot tell any real difference in smooth-ness. It still seems pretty laggy on my NS4G. I am hoping this is because either I have been using a newer device as my daily driver, or just that these Roms are hacked from other releases.
Does anyone else feel this way? What are your experiences with devices like the nexus 7 that were designed with JellyBean? smoother? same?
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Pick up the Galaxy Nexus and you'll see the difference much clearer. NS is just plain old.

Why don't you try setting animations to 0.5?
Nexus S (GMS i9020a)
Paranoid (1.6 - 4.0.4)
Matrix Kernel (CFS - 20.0)
Ondemmand (800/100)
Deep Idle (On - Deadline)
Live OC - 100 (400/800)
BLX - 98 (Inverted Apps)

People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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smoka206 said:
People don't like change, I remember seeing threads bashing ICS when it came out. Its new and the devs here have done made great progress in the short time since its release.
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I'm not bashing at all, love jelly bean.
Just mentioned where is slow.

Piaband said:
FYI---it is VERY hard to understand you without any punctuation.
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I didn't know I was in school & you where an English teacher. I think you need an eye exam if you can't see or feel that jellybean is faster than ICS.
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lekhwani said:
I am on jelly bean. I want to ask too why browsing in chrome is laggy? Opening apps and switching between apps is smooth though, but I dont feel that only switching and opening apps constitute the project butter.
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Chrome is a ram hog. Add in all the other processes eating ram, and you'll see why it's laggy.
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Does Stock Run Smoother Than Custom ROM?

Whenever I flash a custom ROM, I notice the phone's performance degrade. Is this only me?
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i think it all depends on software and what tweaks you have enabled as to how well it will perform.
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captivated1971 said:
i think it all depends on software and what tweaks you have enabled as to how well it will perform.
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On Stock CyanogenMOD or AOKP, the phone becomes slower. But with Stock ROMs - Linaro Built it becomes faster.
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i have also encounterd some adrops in performance while using custom roms.....maybe bcoz of more features ...stock rom is more stable and simple that makes it perfct for devices as its in its native environmnt.So i assume stock is faster than custom but at same time boring

You can try who is the most faster for you

I'd think a basic aosp build with a good kernel would be faster than stock. (Even though aosp is technically stock)

I've also noticed this, I've tried most custom ROMS and stock is hard to beat in performance although it lacks options

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I've also noticed this, I've tried most custom ROMS and stock is hard to beat in performance although it lacks options
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So run the latest stock rom with a custom kernel and some mods and you`ll have the best of both worlds

its the same. but booting into stock is indeed always something special because you're fullwiping into a clean system and that can be felt. the more apps you install, things that hog in the background mostly, you start to notice slight differences but that you get on stock, too. android is much like windows in that regard, it degrades in time. i had stock android for a long time on my nex7, at some point it got so laggy i had to start from scratch. anyway, technically roms are faster, but i doubt it matters in daily use.

molesarecoming said:
its the same. but booting into stock is indeed always something special because you're fullwiping into a clean system and that can be felt. the more apps you install, things that hog in the background mostly, you start to notice slight differences but that you get on stock, too. android is much like windows in that regard, it degrades in time. i had stock android for a long time on my nex7, at some point it got so laggy i had to start from scratch. anyway, technically roms are faster, but i doubt it matters in daily use.
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Very true, it clutters up pretty fast.

molesarecoming said:
its the same. but booting into stock is indeed always something special because you're fullwiping into a clean system and that can be felt. the more apps you install, things that hog in the background mostly, you start to notice slight differences but that you get on stock, too. android is much like windows in that regard, it degrades in time. i had stock android for a long time on my nex7, at some point it got so laggy i had to start from scratch. anyway, technically roms are faster, but i doubt it matters in daily use.
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Try Greenify, its a brilliant piece of software, well thought, stable and helps manage those stuck up softwares, including facebook!

gee2012 said:
So run the latest stock rom with a custom kernel and some mods and you`ll have the best of both worlds
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Exactly. I have stock with all the Faux123 kernel mods running and my N4 is hummin.
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