Does Stock Run Smoother Than Custom ROM? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Whenever I flash a custom ROM, I notice the phone's performance degrade. Is this only me?
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i think it all depends on software and what tweaks you have enabled as to how well it will perform.
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captivated1971 said:
i think it all depends on software and what tweaks you have enabled as to how well it will perform.
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On Stock CyanogenMOD or AOKP, the phone becomes slower. But with Stock ROMs - Linaro Built it becomes faster.
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i have also encounterd some adrops in performance while using custom roms.....maybe bcoz of more features ...stock rom is more stable and simple that makes it perfct for devices as its in its native environmnt.So i assume stock is faster than custom but at same time boring

You can try who is the most faster for you

I'd think a basic aosp build with a good kernel would be faster than stock. (Even though aosp is technically stock)

I've also noticed this, I've tried most custom ROMS and stock is hard to beat in performance although it lacks options

asasione said:
I've also noticed this, I've tried most custom ROMS and stock is hard to beat in performance although it lacks options
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So run the latest stock rom with a custom kernel and some mods and you`ll have the best of both worlds

its the same. but booting into stock is indeed always something special because you're fullwiping into a clean system and that can be felt. the more apps you install, things that hog in the background mostly, you start to notice slight differences but that you get on stock, too. android is much like windows in that regard, it degrades in time. i had stock android for a long time on my nex7, at some point it got so laggy i had to start from scratch. anyway, technically roms are faster, but i doubt it matters in daily use.

molesarecoming said:
its the same. but booting into stock is indeed always something special because you're fullwiping into a clean system and that can be felt. the more apps you install, things that hog in the background mostly, you start to notice slight differences but that you get on stock, too. android is much like windows in that regard, it degrades in time. i had stock android for a long time on my nex7, at some point it got so laggy i had to start from scratch. anyway, technically roms are faster, but i doubt it matters in daily use.
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Very true, it clutters up pretty fast.

molesarecoming said:
its the same. but booting into stock is indeed always something special because you're fullwiping into a clean system and that can be felt. the more apps you install, things that hog in the background mostly, you start to notice slight differences but that you get on stock, too. android is much like windows in that regard, it degrades in time. i had stock android for a long time on my nex7, at some point it got so laggy i had to start from scratch. anyway, technically roms are faster, but i doubt it matters in daily use.
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Try Greenify, its a brilliant piece of software, well thought, stable and helps manage those stuck up softwares, including facebook!

gee2012 said:
So run the latest stock rom with a custom kernel and some mods and you`ll have the best of both worlds
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Exactly. I have stock with all the Faux123 kernel mods running and my N4 is hummin.
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Thinking about going back to stock AOSP rom

The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Stock 2.3.4 is great stability wise and has tremendous battery life.
Iv been running zuluzulu for about a week now and it flies. Great battery life although I am a heavy user. I haven't experienced random reboots at all with it. Also if you like the notification power widget from cm7 its built into zuluzulu.
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chubb16 said:
The stock AOSP rom seemed to run better than cm 7.03 plus it was 2.3.4. I know tge nightlys are the latest but I need somd stablility on my phone. CM7 seems buggy on this device even a couple random reboots. Anybody else experience similar results?
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Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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lvnatic said:
Try AdamG's oxygen ROM and you'll never want the stock ROM again. It isn't built on cm7, it's based on aosp ROM.
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Agreed. AdamG's Oxygen Rom is my favourite right now. It's AOSP GRJ22 with some of the great features from CyanogenMOD built in (status bar power widget, improved widget picker, etc) and fantastic battery life!
A stable cm 7.1 (2.34) will be out very soon. No worries
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With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
chubb16 said:
I'm on oxygen now. Really a nice rom. I had opensoju downloaded too, but I went with oxygen.
But I do miss the rotary lockscreen on cm, with the messaging shortcut in the middle.
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You can add that stuff with Widget Locker.
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mstevens said:
With many devices over many years, I've consistently found that stock firmware is more stable and functional than enthusiast-developed firmware.
I have literally never found an enthusiast-developed firmware that doesn't have at least some minor interface glitches. Most have some problem that's major enough that after a few hours of playing I revert to stock.
Occasionally I will run something other than stock, but that is typically after the device has aged to the point that this is the only way to get a feature. By that point, it's usually time to replace the device, anyway.
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I agree in general, but of course there are exception. When I had an HTC Evo 4G, I ended up running CM6 as my daily and it was exceptionally stable. At least as good as stock HTC Sense. Unfortunately when Gingerbread came around, that changed, and CM7 was not in the same ballpark.
On my Nexus, though... yeah I run stock ROM. CM7 is cool and if I had any other device (that came with a carrier OS and not pure Android), I would dump that shiz and rock CM7 for sure. But plain pure stock Android developed by a team of amazing developers specifically for this device, that's just not going to be beat
Hah. Google's "official" code isn't really better then what rom devs provide if they know what they're doing. The way google keeps pushing buggy code without giving a s*** is really disappointing. They release updates and then they stop caring about it. As some pointed out the gb update brought call delay and broke aac support, it really seems like they don't even do some basic testing before releasing a new version (which even the crappiest developer on the block generally does). On top of that, there is still no support at all for gpu acceleration in the ui, which is kinda retarded. Day after day i'm getting more and more disappointed about google dev team's job, they don't really deserve half the respect that many geeks keep tributing them.
Stock vs Custom rom on the NS was something I always thought about too! I only ran stock for a few hours because I immediately flashed a new rom when I got my phone LOL But what I can remember from the stock 2.3.4 was that it was fast, faster than any phone I've ever had. But there are so many features that are incorporated in custom roms and it's really hard to forgo these things.
Anyone out there who has used both stock 2.3.4 and oxygen who can attest to better battery life and performance? I am curious as well.
The last phone I used for a long time running stock was my N1 but after flashing CM6 I never really looked back. Speed increase was very noticeable and battery life was better. This is the reason why I never really bothered to use stock software for my next phones.
well, to be honest, i kinda regret to be flashed customs. Stock is so stable and has so good battery life, but now i can't live without cm7 features, just can't...
it's sad story that shows that you can't miss what you don't know! =oP
I agree for the most part, stock gb is pretty good. Using Oxygen now, and the stability and speed from stock + some nice features makes it a good choice!
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Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
kingofthebraves said:
Is there really a difference?? Especially when compared to a bare bones aosp build like oxygen?
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In the case of Oxygen not much difference but I believe CM pretty much guts the framework and replaces it with their own heavily modded version.
does facebook sync work on all ASOP roms? or is it just CM7?
Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
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Just wondering - does CM 7 for Nexus S still have the video capture glitch where a couple of seconds are skipped near the beginning when played back?
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tested right now and couldn't notice... if there is any, it's less than 1sec!

Crummy Performance

I fail to understand why the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 performs so horribly compared to my Galaxy Nexus even when the GNex is in completely stock and unrooted/modified form.
My Tab 2 suffers so much graphical stuttering, lag, etc that I can't even stand using it. Some of the initial custom ROM's (Clean ROM and InfectedROM) help with this but it's still so uncomfortable to use!
Does Samsung's additions to Android really suck that bad?
Sorry if this sounds too much like a rant. I just really wasn't expecting such poor performance when seeing the specs. I wasn't expecting Tegra3 performance but damn, I just need things to stop hiccuping and stuttering all over the place.
Yes there Addons do suck up a lot of performance. I can tell when I switch roms.
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I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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The stock rom is not optimized at all. The g nexus (which I also have) was built to run andriod 4.0. Thing will get better as time goes on but the roms available for the 10" are not as good as that available for the 7".
What this thing needs is some Franco love. LOL
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SirRhor said:
I've seen some people complaining about the same issues. I would recommend you to just return it and get something else, like an Iconia from Acer. It's weird for me to see people complaining about the bigger model, but so far no one complains about the 7 Incher performance wise.
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I have a 7 2 and on the stock touchwiz it is very sluggish compared to a lot of other tabs. Its a lot better when you debloat or run cm9 or aokp. Stock is just to bulky with to many background processes. My opinion if your going to stay stock return it if you think its to slow because it won't get better.
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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Even debloating the stock and using an overclocked kernel its slow. Aokp and cm9 are the only way to go IMO. I rooted and switched ROM's an hour into ownership. I made sure cm9/root/cwm was out before purchasing. If you dislike the lagging, flash it.
Cars, computers, phones and the like are never left stock for long around here!
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I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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theoreticaljerk said:
I would love to but unfortunately those are not yet available for the 10.1 yet.
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As soon as one CM9/AOKP pops up you'll have a dozen to choose from a week later. Patience!
I agree debloating the stock Rom just doesn't help with the performance. Im just gonna be patient and wait for a well developed Rom. Not saying the current custom roms are bad. Much love to all devs that work there ass off
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The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
cheatman said:
The P5100OXXALD9 stock kernel is a jewel. Sure, I cooked my own ROM, had a bunch of stuff to fix, but the Samsung bloatware is all but gone now and using CM9 apps instead of that bloat helps a lot. The UI is a lot smoother now and I no longer get any frames skipped during scrolling etc.
So, after shaving off 250MB of bloat and tweaking the kernel and the ramdisk just a bit, my P5100 feels like something else. It's still about 40% stock and the kernel is also almost stock, so there is still room for a lot of improvements. For now, it's better than what I expected.
It's not impossible, just a lot of work :-D
C.
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I ended up trying your ROM even though I have a 5113 and it is, by far, the best running of the 3. I can accept a few extra useless menu options and a "you don't have a cell phone signal" icon for the added smoothness.
Thanks for your work!

Is there really a point?

I'm going to pick up a nexus 7 soon but i'd just like to ask a question.
Is there really a point loading custom roms and kernels?
I know OC is not necassary but it i cool but seriously, whats the point of custom roms and kernels over all when you have a device that is going to get all the updates straight from google for a very long time in which we will not need to port to this device and also this game can run any game with spectacular performance and no lagg. And thanks to project butter as well.
So is there really a reason? Can you please tell me why?
And by the way do you need root to install free apks?
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
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Yeah your right.
But what i'm just confused on is which rom or kernel is the best
I'm sticking with the stock ROM but I have it heavily modded.
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Ftwisawesome said:
I'm going to pick up a nexus 7 soon but i'd just like to ask a question.
Is there really a point loading custom roms and kernels?
I know OC is not necassary but it i cool but seriously, whats the point of custom roms and kernels over all when you have a device that is going to get all the updates straight from google for a very long time in which we will not need to port to this device and also this game can run any game with spectacular performance and no lagg. And thanks to project butter as well.
So is there really a reason? Can you please tell me why?
And by the way do you need root to install free apks?
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Your mis informed if you think the Nexus 7 doesn't lag in games at stock.Play a game like spiderman with a fps program running on your nexus .. it's a joke at stock speeds. Even the update for PuddleTHD causes major stutter on some new maps added. The list could go on and on .. Asphalt 7 is another game that at stock speeds is a joke...
Custom roms takes off bloatware and adds features and enhances that bring out the true potential of the tablet.
I'm loving the new features of the CM10 Jelly Bean ROM + Motley Kernel . The added landscape mode is especially useful at the home screen... The pro's of adding a custom rom to your table is endless.
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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tribestros said:
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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Depends on the user really. I could list a 100 reasons why I choose a newer rom over stock.
But instead I'll list my top 4 I noticed right off the bat going to CM10;
1.)increased stability
2.)No bloatware
3).reponsiveness..touch screen especially
4.) increased boot times
Increased boot times would mean that it takes longer to boot?
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tribestros said:
There's really no reason to flash a new ROM. Flash a new kernel and over clock it.
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Well, a second advantage of a custom ROM is to add new features, e.g. navigation/notification bar customizations, theming, lock screen options, that aren't present in the stock ROM. It really beats me why the google team hasn't been rushing to kang all the CM, for example, features (Apple et al would be even more left in the dust), but I guess that's bureaucracy for you.
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Well, a second advantage of a custom ROM is to add new features, e.g. navigation/notification bar customizations, theming, lock screen options, that aren't present in the stock ROM. It really beats me why the google team hasn't been rushing to kang all the CM, for example, features (Apple et al would be even more left in the dust), but I guess that's bureaucracy for you.
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Perhaps it's a complexity thing? Google are keeping the Nexus deliberately simple; let manufacturers build their own themes and skins, let the community do the same. But a lot of people getting the Nexus 7 on Christmas Day won't want to know about what modifications could be done to their N7, right..?
Let me play devils advocate. How many who report improved performance, whether it's the touch screen, graphics or other, have validate that perception with hard evidence?
Don't get me wrong, and please try and avoid the flaming. I've nothing against flashing new ROM's or kernals as I've done it with my Fire. I'm just curious.
dferrey said:
Let me play devils advocate. How many who report improved performance, whether it's the touch screen, graphics or other, have validate that perception with hard evidence?
Don't get me wrong, and please try and avoid the flaming. I've nothing against flashing new ROM's or kernals as I've done it with my Fire. I'm just curious.
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The only real performance improvement is overclocking. Anything else is just placebo in my book.
glenn37216 said:
Depends on the user really. I could list a 100 reasons why I choose a newer rom over stock.
But instead I'll list my top 4 I noticed right off the bat going to CM10;
1.)increased stability
2.)No bloatware
3).reponsiveness..touch screen especially
4.) increased boot times
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Bloat ware? Isn't this a nexus device?
Where got lost ware?
mtxx1 said:
Bloat ware? Isn't this a nexus device?
Where got lost ware?
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What you call bloat and what I call bloat may be different.
G+, Talk, Magazines, Korean Keyboard--All bloat to me. I won't use any of those.
If I ever needed them, I could always re-d/l from the play store. I don't need it built in.
Movies, debatable for me. After watching the free movie, I'll probably never use it again.
brando56894 said:
I've had Android devices for two years and always flashed custom ROMs and kernels. Once I got an N7 I was so impressed with the speed I thought the same thing. After a few days I flashed _motley's kernel and it made it even faster, I was still using the stock ROM though. A few hours ago, I flashed glazed jelly donut which is fast as all hell.
By all means, ROMs and kernels aren't necessary, yet you have a Nexus device so why the hell not?
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I'm thinking of doing the same as you. Only thing holding me back is that most ROMs I've tried are buggy, at least a tiny bit. I'm on stock ROM with trinity kernel, doing just fine. Don't play many games, so performance bumps aren't necessary for me.
Does removing G+ and such really do all that much? I don't use them, so I figured they'd just be dormant somewhere. Do they slow the system down that much?
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glenn37216 said:
Your mis informed if you think the Nexus 7 doesn't lag in games at stock.Play a game like spiderman with a fps program running on your nexus .. it's a joke at stock speeds. Even the update for PuddleTHD causes major stutter on some new maps added. The list could go on and on .. Asphalt 7 is another game that at stock speeds is a joke...
Custom roms takes off bloatware and adds features and enhances that bring out the true potential of the tablet.
I'm loving the new features of the CM10 Jelly Bean ROM + Motley Kernel . The added landscape mode is especially useful at the home screen... The pro's of adding a custom rom to your table is endless.
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Those games are not optimized for Tegra 3 (except of course Puddle) and there are numerous posts about them.
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Can touchwiz be uninstalled on a rooted phone?

It's been awhile since I haven't been on pure AOSP. I can't remember if Touchwiz can be uninstalled on a rooted phone or just like an app or is it hard coded in the OS.
Lag on such a powerful phone should be embarrassing to Samsung!
Thanks.
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It's been awhile since I haven't been on pure AOSP. I can't remember if Touchwiz can be uninstalled on a rooted phone or just like an app or is it hard coded in the OS.
Lag on such a powerful phone should be embarrassing to Samsung!
Thanks.
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It's not an app. It's built into various parts of the OS as far as I know. I have no lag though so I'm always surprised when people mention lag. Actually, to clarify I have seen some lag since I started doing some tweaks and mods posted on here but they usually clear up after a few reboots. OS seems pretty self-optimizing to me. But again, I always say this, lag depends on what phone/OS you are coming from. Someone coming from AOSP will probably notice lag where as someone like me coming from a stock S3 finds this much faster.
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It's been awhile since I haven't been on pure AOSP. I can't remember if Touchwiz can be uninstalled on a rooted phone or just like an app or is it hard coded in the OS.
Lag on such a powerful phone should be embarrassing to Samsung!
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Depends on what you mean by TouchWiz. If you mean just the launcher, it can be frozen/disabled or removed. But the hooks of the TW framework go deep because a lot of the features in the ROM depend on it. TW can be tweaked, and various unused RAM wasting TW related services can be frozen/disabled. On my previous S2 and S3, I ran custom tweaked TW ROMs with Nova or Apex launchers that were as smooth or smoother than AOSP/AOKP ROMs. Once the bootloader gets unlocked on the AT&T S4 and the devs get to do their stuff then things will get better. Who knows, the lag could just be the result of a kernel governor that needs a little tweaking. These days, running AOSP will make you lose a lot of the features that the manufacturers are putting into their phones. Of course whether or not someone would consider all of these new features useful or gimmicky is another story entirely.
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It's not an app. It's built into various parts of the OS as far as I know. I have no lag though so I'm always surprised when people mention lag. Actually, to clarify I have seen some lag since I started doing some tweaks and mods posted on here but they usually clear up after a few reboots. OS seems pretty self-optimizing to me. But again, I always say this, lag depends on what phone/OS you are coming from. Someone coming from AOSP will probably notice lag where as someone like me coming from a stock S3 finds this much faster.
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Thanks, Yeah it's nothing substantial but noticeable to me. Just scrolling from page to page on the home screen it's just a little jerky, poweramp has skipped a few times, stuff like that. hopefully a root and de-bloat will help.
Over 1 gig of ram is comsumed just with the phone idle and no open apps. I know Android will manage memory well when needed but shesh.
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Have you turned off all animations in developer settings? My phone didn't lag, but doing that made it even faster.
TW is so integrated into the ROM you really wouldn't want to uninstall it. Stuff just wouldn't work.
Just be patient and wait for our awesome devs to put together a custom ROM for this wicked cool phone.

Do custom Roms and kernels remove the lag?

Is it worth it to unlock bootloader and root for a custom ROM and kernel? Does it make a big difference in speed? Thanks and if so, any suggestion on a ROM and kernel to try out first?
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nazem said:
Is it worth it to unlock bootloader and root for a custom ROM and kernel? Does it make a big difference in speed? Thanks and if so, any suggestion on a ROM and kernel to try out first?
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I have been a long time visitor to this site and every question like this has been given the same typical response "go try a few ROMs and see what you think". I have flashed a variety of ROMs on my N7 but have yet to find one which truly provides the user with a lag free experience across the board. I personally found SmoothROM to be one of the closest, though there are aspects of that ROM I'm not too keen on. One ROM I always find myself returning to though is Slim Bean; I guess you could make a start with those two. Irrespective of ROM I find turning sync off and removing all widgets etc. helps, though this shouldn't really have to be done!
Some will say my device is faulty, but who really knows. I guess some folk are simply less tolerant of lag than others (me being one of the former).
While it depends on the choice of the individual concerned, I for one do believe that rooting a device does have its advantages. ROMs and Kernels are a matter of choice but the most efficient way of reducing lags and increasing RAM is by removing bloatware and carrier/vendor/manufacturer apps.
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I have been a long time visitor to this site and every question like this has been given the same typical response "go try a few ROMs and see what you think". I have flashed a variety of ROMs on my N7 but have yet to find one which truly provides the user with a lag free experience across the board. I personally found SmoothROM to be one of the closest, though there are aspects of that ROM I'm not too keen on. One ROM I always find myself returning to though is Slim Bean; I guess you could make a start with those two. Irrespective of ROM I find turning sync off and removing all widgets etc. helps, though this shouldn't really have to be done!
Some will say my device is faulty, but who really knows. I guess some folk are simply less tolerant of lag than others (me being one of the former).
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Thanks for your reply. With all these rumors of 4.3 coming in the next few days, i'll wait a couple of days then probably flash slimbean first.
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While it depends on the choice of the individual concerned, I for one do believe that rooting a device does have its advantages. ROMs and Kernels are a matter of choice but the most efficient way of reducing lags and increasing RAM is by removing bloatware and carrier/vendor/manufacturer apps.
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What is there that i could remove though considering it's a nexus?
Well the nexus 7 doesn't have much lag for me on stock with 1.7ghz over clock. It sits on the dock not used much all day so battery life isn't an issue, but it does only have a gig of ram where 2gb is ideal
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Every ROM I have been on has had lag with any kernel I have tried. Doesn't matter if it is stock or custom. What you should be asking is what tweaks and settings you can apply to reduce that lag. For instance, removing Window animation. That has drastically reduced lag for me. Every device has its own characteristics. What one person uses on their Nexus 7 may work wonders for you or may make things worse. You really have to find out for r yourself.
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I'll add my own "It depends" here as well. Though I've found half the time people who use apps more heavily kill off the lag by simply turning off surface dithering (hasn't really been a problem for my Nexus 7 though, it mainly impacts graphical apps that don't utilize GPU acceleration).
nazem said:
What is there that i could remove though considering it's a nexus?
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Yes, its a Nexus (lucky you) so that scope is limited. But I even remove apps considered sacrosanct e.g. Google components like Search, Dial etc. Like a said, the choice depends on the individual. However, u have a narrow playing field considering its a Nexus!
Tianhe said:
Yes, its a Nexus (lucky you) so that scope is limited. But I even remove apps considered sacrosanct e.g. Google components like Search, Dial etc. Like a said, the choice depends on the individual. However, u have a narrow playing field considering its a Nexus!
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I'll mess around with diff. apps to see what affects it the most. Thanks for your feedback man, it was helpful.
IRX120 said:
Well the nexus 7 doesn't have much lag for me on stock with 1.7ghz over clock. It sits on the dock not used much all day so battery life isn't an issue, but it does only have a gig of ram where 2gb is ideal
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Yeah i think it's the RAM that probably hurts peformance. I hope the sequel has 2 gigs though.
nazem said:
Yeah i think it's the RAM that probably hurts performance. I hope the sequel has 2 gigs though.
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But at least it's aosp and not something like sense on 1gb ram.
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kbeezie said:
But at least it's aosp and not something like sense on 1gb ram.
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Yeah that's true.
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