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Current benchmark phone, last year it was the iPhone, this year! Whats your pick?

Hey everyone, so I was reading this post from another Xda'er and was reading comments from almost a year ago from this article Here, I came across a post by a person that read this
"Same. iPhone is the de facto benchmark (for now) that this will likely beat by a good measure. The mitigating factor -- for some -- is if you need the variety of iPhone's apps. It'll be a constant balance between that flexibilit*y and the faster network/mo*re power this device is capable of."
This was on the comments section of the CTIA announcement of the Evo, I just came to the realization that I stopped comparing my phone to the iPhone long ago and actually started Benching it up with other Android Devices. I thought it was pretty funny, I mean I like the iPhone if it was on Sprint I would surely get one but now that I am seeing these new phones its just awesome!
Anyone else have a similar experience thus far?

Blitzpwnage said:
Hey everyone, so I was reading this post from another Xda'er and was reading comments from almost a year ago from this article Here, I came across a post by a person that read this
"Same. iPhone is the de facto benchmark (for now) that this will likely beat by a good measure. The mitigating factor -- for some -- is if you need the variety of iPhone's apps. It'll be a constant balance between that flexibilit*y and the faster network/mo*re power this device is capable of."
This was on the comments section of the CTIA announcement of the Evo, I just came to the realization that I stopped comparing my phone to the iPhone long ago and actually started Benching it up with other Android Devices. I thought it was pretty funny, I mean I like the iPhone if it was on Sprint I would surely get one but now that I am seeing these new phones its just awesome!
Anyone else have a similar experience thus far?
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The iPhone never really was the benchmark hardware-wise. They tend to release very competitive hardware for the release period (Ex: iPhone 5 will be one of the most advance phones released on launch) but a month or two later a newer better spec'd phone will be out (Like the SGS vs. iPhone 4). The one thing that the iPhone still continues to do good is in the optimization of it's software. With just one model a year to focus on, Apple will always make sure that iOS squeezes out as much performance from the hardware.

Award Tour said:
The iPhone never really was the benchmark hardware-wise. They tend to release very competitive hardware for the release period (Ex: iPhone 5 will be one of the most advance phones released on launch) but a month or two later a newer better spec'd phone will be out (Like the SGS vs. iPhone 4). The one thing that the iPhone still continues to do good is in the optimization of it's software. With just one model a year to focus on, Apple will always make sure that iOS squeezes out as much performance from the hardware.
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Very true. I dont think I was comparing hardware when I first saw these phones, I was a complete noob I still had a samsung rumor let me tell you that phone was priceless it was a little brute! But I never really cared for specs on iPhones it was more or less how smooth the experience is like you said I commend apple with how amazingly optimized their software is. It is just awesome, I really wish android had this but it is still coming into its own my only fear is that new devices will keep being pushed out like candy and new ones will be completely forgotten after less than 6 months this will be the trend, if so android has no stable platform, I think this is fragmentation but hey it keeps getting better and look at the dev community here they do an AMAZING JOB, they are OUR optimizers just wish they had more back pocket to push them and more people to help like Apple does but then again they have to....I think I just typed what I was thinking....oh well hope some of this had a point.

my roommate has an iphone and they were all up in steve jobs bum about how awesome it is and didn't like my evo when I got it (had 2.1at the time) I didnt care much about how great the iphone screen was as it was too small for me, now that I think about it ever since I rooted I can't recall an instance when their iphone did something better
they are talking about how they want to jailbreak it now and I actually thought " how cute that they want to take their little toy out of the box"
my evo is far superior and I dont think the iphone is competition

With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.

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With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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Did you read any of my posts at all. I wasnt bashing the iPhone in any way at all I ACTUALLY SAID I WOULD BUY ONE....I would drop my android phone for an iPhone right now if it was on Sprint but its not and I like android all the same too. I wouldnt mind having both but seriously dude your post accomplished nothing and has proven you didnt read the 2 more verbose posts not that one guys where is he saying his phone can do anything the iPhone can, stop trying to be some hero and be "neutral" when I started this thread not as an iPhone bashing thread I had just realized this point and wanted to see if anyone else had, so before you hijack my thread and at nothing more I PLEAD with you to read what else I have written and edit your post with help information. I actually thing I described fragmentation which Applbots love to talk about Android Fanboys love to omit from their knowledge and sane people who dont really argue over it for we have XDA.
P.S. I dont know where you come from where my opinion doesnt matter, to me it surely does and I could give .02 if it matters to you, the thing is I was curious if anyone else had similar thoughts.

sobis1dm said:
With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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Pretty much. When that Iphone drops on Verizon people are REALLY going to see how popular that phone is. There are still a ton of people that want it but wont switch to at&t to get it. Both OS have their advantages but the thing that I still miss about IOS is the apps by far.

sobis1dm said:
With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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iPhone doesn't have the popularity anymore. Android has been outselling iPhones for months now. So, we have the more popular brand now.
Also, have you ever been on an iPhone forum? All they do is bash Android. They have whole threads dedicated to it. They have fake reviewers ***** about how terrible Androids are:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
They write on our YouTube videos (guides, reviews, just showing off the phone because we love it) being little brats and throwing insults my 12 year old brother would shake off and laugh at.
So, for a couple of Android loving Evo owners to complain about iPhone and it's users in a private environment not only shows more maturity than iPhone users, it shows respect to their videos and forums by not flooding the internet with useless, incorrect rabble. We can admit the iPhone owns benchmark without getting our panties in a twist, but even I'm sick of hearing about it on phonedog reviews for Android phones.
Leave them alone, you can avoid conversations like this, if you don't like them, using this guide.
ABSOLUTZERO'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING CONVERSATIONS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
Step 1: Hit the back button.
Step 2: Go enjoy the rest of your day.

The theme of your post is: "Sup guys I forgot about the iPhone. It's cool and all but these new things rock"
It's really pathetic. I know you're not the only one. But why can't we just enjoy our device without looking like a bunch of idiot underdogs that take every jab we can?

AbsolutZeroGI said:
iPhone doesn't have the popularity anymore. Android has been outselling iPhones for months now. So, we have the more popular brand now.
Also, have you ever been on an iPhone forum? All they do is bash Android. They have whole threads dedicated to it. They have fake reviewers ***** about how terrible Androids are:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
They write on our YouTube videos (guides, reviews, just showing off the phone because we love it).
So, for a couple of Android loving Evo owners to ***** in a safe place to one another about how annoying iPhone and it's users are and how much we hate the phone is not only understandable, it's probably better than if they posted phony reviews and spam youtube videos.
Leave them alone, you can avoid conversations like this, if you don't like them, using this guide.
ABSOLUTZERO'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING CONVERSATIONS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
Step 1: Hit the back button.
Step 2: Go enjoy the rest of your day.
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Ok. So he can have input, but I can't have input on his input. Got it.

sobis1dm said:
Ok. So he can have input, but I can't have input on his input. Got it.
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His input was on topic, your input was not. Of course, mine isn't either so technically we're both trolling now.

sobis1dm said:
The theme of your post is: "Sup guys I forgot about the iPhone. It's cool and all but these new things rock"
It's really pathetic. I know you're not the only one. But why can't we just enjoy our device without looking like a bunch of idiot underdogs that take every jab we can?
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Did you read one WORD even a single sentence, I stated I liked the iPhone, are you trying to troll, this thread needs to be cleaned up.
I admit that title was misleading and was ignorant apologies alright it sounded different to me at the time. It was more personable and was not intended for community interpretation.

Blitzpwnage said:
Did you read one WORD even a single sentence, I stated I liked the iPhone, are you trying to troll, this thread needs to be cleaned up.
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The thread doesn't need to be "cleaned up," the forum needs to be cleaned up. I'm pretty sure the name of the forum we're in is "Evo 4G General," as in, related to the Evo 4G - NOT some roundabout broad topic discussion about the iPhone. Go to the more general forums if you want to talk about that. I'll just keep talking about the phone, as this forum was meant, and deterring those who aren't. Sound good?
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His input was on topic, your input was not. Of course, mine isn't either so technically we're both trolling now.
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o/

sobis1dm said:
The thread doesn't need to be "cleaned up," the forum needs to be cleaned up. I'm pretty sure the name of the forum we're in is "Evo 4G General," as in, related to the Evo 4G - NOT some roundabout broad topic discussion about the iPhone. Go to the more general forums if you want to talk about that. I'll just keep talking about the phone, as this forum was meant, and deterring those who aren't. Sound good?
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First off, look at the link I posted, hmmmm thats not on topic at all, nope that is not about the Evo AT ALL, I changed the title of the thread seriously, grow up and drop it and stop hijacking my thread and maybe have some useful input...
Noob question not directed at the troll.
How do I report my own thread?

Blitzpwnage said:
First off, look at the link I posted, hmmmm thats not on topic at all, nope that is not about the Evo AT ALL, I changed the title of the thread seriously, grow up and drop it and stop hijacking my thread and maybe have some useful input...
Noob question not directed at the troll.
How do I report my own thread?
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Okay. Well I'll create a thread next time I'm on the toilet browsing Engadget on my Evo, and it'll be about the Evo. Sound good?

sobis1dm said:
Okay. Well I'll create a thread next time I'm on the toilet browsing Engadget on my Evo, and it'll be about the Evo. Sound good?
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Ummmmm, yea actually what will we be discussing.
P.S. You should police this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785408
Its the Call of Duty Clan thread on the EVO 4G General section tisk tisk they must be policed... Do your best sobis1dm

Nah. That thread starts, "Flame me if you want." At least he's not blindly defending himself, and knows he's off topic.

I don't think benchmarks matter because... speed doesn't really matter much anymore.
Seriously I haven't had any lag issues with my phone besides the awful GPU.
Nowadays every phone seems to be strong enough to handle anything.
To me, features mean more than specs now... somewhat.

WARNING
this thread is going way off the rails. please stay on topic.
thanx

patelkedar91 said:
I don't think benchmarks matter because... speed doesn't really matter much anymore.
Seriously I haven't had any lag issues with my phone besides the awful GPU.
Nowadays every phone seems to be strong enough to handle anything.
To me, features mean more than specs now... somewhat.
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Speed does matter. Resolutions are increasing, animations and presentation are getting more sophisticated, etc. But the issue isn't the CPU, it's the GPU and I've been saying this for a long time. We don't need a dual core CPU to run the Facebook app; and it's unlikely that we'll be see many apps in the future that require that much power either. It just doesn't fit the on the go and small form factor use case of a smartphone. I still expect the power to increase but I think a much more logical progression in 2011 would be single core Cortex A9. It'd still be way more powerful than anything pre-CES and the power efficiency would be higher especially as the die size decreases even further.
The main bottle neck is the GPU. Think of every app that DOES require power to be smooth and fast: Google Earth, 3D view in Google Maps, fringe features like Live Wallpapers, and of course, games. Basically mobile apps will not need lots of computation power to process tasks but might need graphical power to display the information it outputs. So just pair up a =< 40nm single core A9 with a beast GPU (PowerVR SGX 545 or equivalent), a huge battery (1920 mAh like the Atrix 4G, and why not? the phones are HUGE now), smaller more efficient radios and components, and bam, you got a phone that'll eclipse all current phones, run super smooth, and last all day under heavy use.
Once Android is GPU accelerated it'll be hard if not impossible to tell the difference (visually, not through benchmarks) between a single core and dual core phone that shares the same GPU.

HTC Sabre - Real or Rumor

Well after all the crying and whining about why/when sprint will release a new EVO, I just wanted to bring up something that I personally want to throw out there. Now im not saying its true or false. You can make up your own minds, however I will point out that this is the direct source where I first heard about a phone called the supersonic. So take it with a grain of salt but it is definately a possibility.
http://www.ozcarguide.com/technology/cellphone-pda/3439-htc-sabor-evo-4g-droid-x
Lil info about the chipset.
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/qualcomm-to-release-dual-core-snapdragon-chip-in-q4.html
Now you tell me? If that phone is coming to sprint with that chipset, are you really gonna care about sprint coming out with that stupid echo? I know I won't. But its rumored to be coming out Q3, which at the look of things is definately a possibility. Atrix who? But we shall see.........

I hope Sprint comes out with a Tegra2 phone.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

You could probably get better tech news from my cat than Ozcarguide. And that's way old. Just kick back and relax till the next two trade shows are done and you should have a good idea of what's on the map.

Please........PLEASE for the love of god, NEVER cite ozcarguide.com as a source. They have been proven time and time again to fabricate lies and formulate their own, almost completely unfounded rumors and 'news'.

HondaCop said:
I hope Sprint comes out with a Tegra2 phone.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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Yea that was my thought at first when all these other phones came out, but after looking around I did see HTC must have some kind of agreement with qualcomm so I doubt tergra is an option. But it seems that chipset listed above outperforms that tegra2 so I don't have that thought anymore. Also rumored that they will be combining it with the Adreno 220 GPU, so as far as a techies wet dream, this would definately be it.

Android 17 said:
Please........PLEASE for the love of god, NEVER cite ozcarguide.com as a source. They have been proven time and time again to fabricate lies and formulate their own, almost completely unfounded rumors and 'news'.
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While all that may be true, I did say that for what its worth, they are the first site that I personally heard about the supersonic, so for me they are 1 for 1.

swaze said:
Yea that was my thought at first when all these other phones came out, but after looking around I did see HTC must have some kind of agreement with qualcomm so I doubt tergra is an option. But it seems that chipset listed above outperforms that tegra2 so I don't have that thought anymore. Also rumored that they will be combining it with the Adreno 220 GPU, so as far as a techies wet dream, this would definately be it.
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I love nVidia gaming on the PC and I believe their line of Tegra chips are here to stay and make an impact. I LOVE my EVO, don't get me wrong, but I truly believe that whenever I decide to upgrade my phone, it will have a Tegra in it.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

HAWT..... Maybe we shall get a little sneak peek at the good 'ol MWC '11

HondaCop said:
I love nVidia gaming on the PC and I believe their line of Tegra chips are here to stay and make an impact. I LOVE my EVO, don't get me wrong, but I truly believe that whenever I decide to upgrade my phone, it will have a Tegra in it.
PS. My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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Yea thats def true, they aint goin nowhere no time soon. The tegra3 is already in the works so someone over there is on top of their game. It would be interesting though if HTC decides to use someone else but im not sure about that.

swaze said:
While all that may be true, I did say that for what its worth, they are the first site that I personally heard about the supersonic, so for me they are 1 for 1.
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1) Engadget was the first site to publically announce the Supersonic. 2) Ozcarguide info in its entirety,stemmed from phandroid forums, and jackson. I won't go there. 3) Read carefully. EVO 2 and HTC Sabor are NOT THE SAME DEVICE, down to the codenames. You see those so called specs? Ignore them. 4) Read 3 again.
Sent from my Thundering Thunderbolt.

popular nobody said:
1) Engadget was the first site to publically announce the Supersonic. 2) Ozcarguide info in its entirety,stemmed from phandroid forums, and jackson. I won't go there. 3) Read carefully. EVO 2 and HTC Sabor are NOT THE SAME DEVICE, down to the codenames. You see those so called specs? Ignore them. 4) Read 3 again.
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I think you need to take your own advice and READ. I did not say that site was the first to announce the supersonic, I said it was the FIRST site I (me, myself) heard about the supersonic. But thanks for the advice.

swaze said:
I think you need to take your own advice and READ. I did not say that site was the first to announce the supersonic, I said it was the FIRST site I (me, myself) heard about the supersonic. But thanks for the advice.
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I will take my own advice, after you show me where in my comments mentioned you stating that ozcarguide was the first site to mentioned the HTC Supersonic? Take your time. My 1.) went hand in hand with my 2.) point. I've checked out the content of that blog twice, and most of everything they stated as breaking news, came from the android fan forums, word for word. If a member said ok, the EVO 2 will be the first quad core tegra 3 processor with qHD display, 2GB of Ram, with 32GB internal, that member is now their "source". They may have been your first source for the phone, but I would not say they are 1 for 1 because of it. Take our word for it, and pretend that site doesn't exist.

at this point..it is all rumors.. and I understand that.
it is just interesting to see and read about what MIGHT be coming to replace MY evo.
so.. add in any rumors of upcoming devices for sprint .. I want to heat it.

popular nobody said:
I will take my own advice, after you show me where in my comments mentioned you stating that ozcarguide was the first site to mentioned the HTC Supersonic? Take your time. My 1.) went hand in hand with my 2.) point. I've checked out the content of that blog twice, and most of everything they stated as breaking news, came from the android fan forums, word for word. If a member said ok, the EVO 2 will be the first quad core tegra 3 processor with qHD display, 2GB of Ram, with 32GB internal, that member is now their "source". They may have been your first source for the phone, but I would not say they are 1 for 1 because of it. Take our word for it, and pretend that site doesn't exist.
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well you dont have to say they are 1 for 1, but I will. Thanks for trying to be Mr. Noitall but anything you say has about as much credibility as you are giving that website which is zero. So I can accept what I feel is a possibility and I could care less if you don't believe it or not. But I will kinda take your advice but I will take your word for it and pretend you don't exist.

http://androidandme.com/2011/02/pho...pyramid-superphone-coming-to-t-mobile-by-may/
the Pryramid has the some of the features that OP has rumored.
and that might lead to the EVO2...per the article i linked.
so... more ammo to the rummors.

Any Sprint users keeping up with CES?

Something lovely was announced:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=SEM:Google:P:Sprint:Samsung
Looks like I know what my next phone is. Discuss.

Been posted all over today. Not only here, but on every major media site.

I haven't seen any posts on here yet. But I do see it everywhere media wise. I'm pretty excited.

I post it yesterday and a ritard mod moved my thread.

Hmm making me question if I should of jumped to verizon
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Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.

z33dev33l said:
Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.
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Their phones are going to suck? Why? Did they make a deal for some Nokias?

Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.

z33dev33l said:
Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.
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Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...

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Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...
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I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.

z33dev33l said:
I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.
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They will always have your evo exclusives. Your views on business are absolutely horrible. You believe everything you read on the internet. Have you ever came up with an original idea? Im guessing no. Well, I guess buying a $500 phone for a 1 year old doesn't make you the smartest though, so it is to be expected.

Yup, just attempt to attack me personally rather than put forth a valid point. I'm used to it by now, and I could probably do it faster on a WP7.

International S3 Quad-Core vs US Dual Core

I haven't seen anything in the T-Mobile Forums on this issue but if anyone is concerned about how the two version compare real world scenario wise here is a good video displaying the differences. Benchmarks aren't everything.
http://youtu.be/-XmfQZoYqbY
**Sorry if this has been discussed in these forums I didn't see anything, Moderator if there is already a thread please Close or delete.**

FRuiTBoOT said:
I haven't seen anything in the T-Mobile Forums on this issue but if anyone is concerned about how the two version compare real world scenario wise here is a good video displaying the differences. Benchmarks aren't everything.
http://youtu.be/-XmfQZoYqbY
**Sorry if this has been discussed in these forums I didn't see anything, Moderator if there is already a thread please Close or delete.**
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DUEL core. I see what you did there! (even though you probably didn't see it yourself)

Outrager said:
DUEL core. I see what you did there! (even though you probably didn't see it yourself)
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Yeah I did that on purpose....actually no I didn't My FAIL.

Thanks for sharing that video. It was really nice to see that the S4 could really hang neck and neck with the exynos.

lame comparison!

dasistsparta said:
lame comparison!
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The internet is a strange place. Would it be too much to ask for you to elaborate on that? In the limited amount of time he had I thought he covered just about everything that I wanted to know about.

Paging Dr B said:
The internet is a strange place. Would it be too much to ask for you to elaborate on that? In the limited amount of time he had I thought he covered just about everything that I wanted to know about.
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+1 :good:
my thoughts exactly...well, yours is worded better with absolutely no profanity in sight unlike mine would've been. except i don't care what that user thinks.

Better battery life. twice the RAM, cheaper for US buyers, same speed and performance, has LTE. Only reason you would want to pick the international version is for the better GPU, if you play a lot of 3D games on your phone that is (I leave that to my playstation and big screen TV). It'll also get faster updates, but for those who care about updating, most will have already flashed a third party rom. Oh, and benchmark numbers. Very few and specific benefits if you ask me. You can unlock the AT&T or T-mobile phones with a cheap unlock code from eBay, or probably for free if that unlock app carries over to the US versions.

katamari201 said:
Better battery life. twice the RAM, cheaper for US buyers, same speed and performance, has LTE. Only reason you would want to pick the international version is for the better GPU, if you play a lot of 3D games on your phone that is (I leave that to my playstation and big screen TV). It'll also get faster updates, but for those who care about updating, most will have already flashed a third party rom. Oh, and benchmark numbers. Very few and specific benefits if you ask me. You can unlock the AT&T or T-mobile phones with a cheap unlock code from eBay, or probably for free if that unlock app carries over to the US versions.
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Much better devs as well.
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Most biased review of the galaxy s 3 I have read yet.

This review screamed "apple fan boy" from the start. Smdh at so many android haters in the world. Especially one who works for a irrelevant news outlet
He says the s3 has an outdated processor. Is he serious? Thy shows me he knows nothing about this phone
http://www.examiner.com/article/rev...axy-s3-is-just-another-ordinary-android-phone
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phyba said:
This review screamed "apple fan boy" from the start. Smdh at so many android haters in the world. Especially one who works for a irrelevant news outlet
He says the s3 has an outdated processor. Is he serious? Thy shows me he knows nothing about this phone
http://www.examiner.com/article/rev...axy-s3-is-just-another-ordinary-android-phone
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First of all who is "examiner.com"? Secondly, the author lost all credibility with me when he wrote: However, you definitely feel the height and length when talking on the phone for a long time.What the heck is the difference between height and length?

Ansextra said:
First of all who is "examiner.com"? Secondly, the author lost all credibility with me when he wrote: However, you definitely feel the height and length when talking on the phone for a long time.What the heck is the difference between height and length?
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Lol. Good point. Wth does that mean??
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That poor soul... c'mon guys give your sympathy to another iSheep added to the flock, scared to broaden his horizons. I pity the foo.
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He's more than entitled to his opinion but he should write about it intelligently.

Think the author of this article still drinks from a sippy cup, and needs to be led places, because he obviously has no thoughts of his own and is hand fed his knowledge from his mommy.... LOL... that or his IQ is very low.
All kidding aside this was so funny. I always love the apple fanbois.
I had the first iphone (before android was out), and I was part of the guys that was hacking it at version 1.02 of IOS, and figuring out jailbreaking and such.
I have owned Macs since the early 90s, but the iphone in my opinion is a kids toy, compared to Andriod based phones (much more customize-able, and "hack-able")

From the author of the article, "Fabio, any dual-core processor is outdated. The US version uses a dual-core processor."
I wonder if he even knows that his iPhone is outdated now.

El Nivek said:
From the author of the article, "Fabio, any dual-core processor is outdated. The US version uses a dual-core processor."
I wonder if he even knows that his iPhone is outdated now.
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Why is this guy even writing tech articles he obviously knows nothing about technology.

Ummm... Because anyone can call themselves a blogger and publish what they want?

ick!
I'm fed up with apple BS. I just had an argument this morning about android and ios with one of my close friend's who's also in IT. I'm an android fanboy but i can clearly say without any hesitation that apple does make great products. I had an iphone4, an ipad, and an apple tv. Good stuff. As much as I like their stuff, I don't think it's necessarily better; Just different. I like having a choice. I've been with android since day one and know that android is just as capable as any ios device, and in some cases more capable. I love than I can get a phone in any size shape or color from any carrier. Apple people think that's bad for some reason.
Ever listen to any of their presentations? They sound like this.
"70% of apple users upgrade to the latest version of our OS 100% more than any other OS. Today we're announcing that everyone can get the latest version for only... $20"
Does that make any sense to you? They actually said something like this at WWDC2012. Every one of their slides and charts has all sorts of skewed information and apple sheep eat it right up. Like when they say that the ipad has over 200k apps designed for it, then they diss android. But they don't mention that every single android app since ICS built for both phones and tablets. Nah they leave that part out.
Apple gets praised for selling OS updates for $20.
Windows gets slammed for giving people service packs for free.
Apple gets praise for updating it's last two iphones, but google gets slammed for only upgrading their last two and not the every other manufacturers phones. It seems unfair, and simply childish at this point trying to talk to apple people. God (for those who believe in him/her) could come from heaven and say that Android is really better, and apple people would still deny it.
This writer should be ashamed of himself for not only drinking the cool-aid, but for letting it skew his review and putting out bad information to consumers.

just left a nice comment under the name LearnGadget

Apparently many many people are annoyed with him...

Oh this kid clearly has never had 4.8" in his hand before

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Oh this kid clearly has never had 4.8" in his hand before
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He probably has in his mouth.

"The GPS eats a lot of battery life fast, so it's important to keep this off when you don't need it"
What? Really? So the phone uses GPS 24/7 now?
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"The GPS eats a lot of battery life fast, so it's important to keep this off when you don't need it"
What? Really? So the phone uses GPS 24/7 now?
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Yeah that guy is a tool that doesn't know what he's talking about.

That article is funny, he's obviously clueless.
He comments later, "any dual-core processor is outdated."

This one is pretty funny too, not as bad but some of the claims are really biased-sounding.
It's at gadgetreview . com, can't post links...
"Compared to the Galaxy S II, the newer Galaxy S III looks plasticy and somewhat poorly built. The back panel is a single bendable plastic glossy slab, and the front is all display. Compare that with the iPhone, or any recent high-end smartphone, and the GS3 looks like a kids toy from the back. "
"My opinion is that iOS is still the stronger operating system; it’s simpler, easier to manage, and anyone switching between the two OS’s will be better off with iOS in any case."
"Samsung has included some great additions using their user interface, but it isn’t likely going to make the overall OS better than iOS. "

I don't think the guy has even held a gs3. And a simpler os does not make a better os. And any iphone ive used is always cluttered because the home screen holds all the apps.
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I just sent him this in an email, not because he doesn't like a phone that I do, but because he's an idiot! Lol
Dear uninformed,
Wow is all I have to say! I own several smartphones and one of those is a US Galaxy S3 variamt. I'm well aware that you did not ever actually use one of them before you wrote this review.
If you in fact have used any of them, then you have zero credibility when it comes to technology! Even if you don't care for the phone, which I personally like but there are others I care for more, your conclusions of outdated processor, bad camcorder, and camera is not as good as the s2, are so completely far off from what is obvious to even a smartphone beginner!
Total crap journalism, and absolutely the most uninformed, uneducated, clueless "tech journalist" (if that's your title at this.... Blog Site?) that I have ever layed eyes on!
By the way, we are having a hell of a time laughing our asses off at you in a thread dedicated just for you at XDA!
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.... SELECT A NEW LINE OF WORK!