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Alright, my first thread EVER.
First off, I'd like to say thank you to all of the developers on this forum.
Everyone does amazing work... and I hope to be able to contribute one day soon.
So I claim no credit for any of the work I discuss in this topic.
As for now, I've been tapping my toes for Gingerbread, as many of you may have been as well. I have, though, in the meantime trying out some of the ROMs released by developers ( Evervolv | GRH55/Android 2.3.1 | v1.0.0a15 | [released by preludedrew] && OMGB v5 (Android 2.3) [released by R2DoesInc )
Since the initial release, I have run on either / or of these ROMs and not had to revert back except about twice. They both run great in my personal opinion, and I'm sure there both still being worked on. But I found myself asking which one I should leave flashed?
I said I liked the feel of OMGB 5 initially, vs the Evervolv v1.0.0a13 - Gingerbread... but since then, Evervolv took it up to v1.0.0a15 and now has a working GPS. I'm sure OMGB isn't going to be behind, though. It seems like you initially don't have access to change the layout of the Everlov, though. Instead of trying to go mess with the settings, I downloaded a simple Gingerbread 2.3 launcher app off of the Android Market, and it works beautifully. Only the absence of a Camcorder and a few little things here and there. But I was never able to run daily on an AOSP for more than one or 2 days before going back to a Sense ROM. In my opinion, one of 2 things are going to happen in the near future...
Let me specify though, this is ALL speculation.
These 2 developers, are going to come so close to perfection with these ROMs. But I believe after the OTA is released, we may see HTC perfect it's Sense. I'm curious to see in the near future... perhaps on January 1st, the source at least is leaked out. And let me say again, MERE SPECULATION.
((But based on previous trends, at least in my head, reference Skyraider Froyo 2.2 )) which was out before official OTA release.
Does anyone have a preference, or still need to stick with another 2.2 ROM for some reason? I see why a camcorder may be important to some, but as for everything else, it does what needs to be done. Virtually no hiccups.
Thank you for your responses ahead of time.
_Steven_
I don't think you'll see 2.3 sense for quite some time... probably not until at least spring (IIRC this is about how long it took from 2.2 release until 2.2 sense roms were available). We'll probably never get an official OTA for incredible, but hopefully Evo or another similar phone will get it and we can port it.
As for an AOSP version, I think we're a few weeks or less away from having it up and running fully. The source has already been fully released and the CM team (among many others) is on it. If you can live without sense, I don't think you'll be waiting too much longer.
Hmm, I agree. But I was just thinking it would be something to advertise 5 days before the end of the year, in order to get rid of inventory. But it was just a wild suspision, clearly I haven't a clue about marketing.
Happy Holidays
I'll sample omgb on and off until the real CM7 is released. Haven't tried enervolv though. As far as kernels go, I try invisiblek's builds, reports problems, then roll back to #18.
I believe I've been tinkering alot since I've been off all week (and still have another week to go). Whatever I end up with on Jan 3rd will have to be full featured, stable and last 12 hours on a full charge.
There's a gingerbread version for the incredible that's supposed to be coming to testing soon, but who knows how LTE smartphone testing will impact that. Maybe in march or later (after inc HD is released and out for a month)?
patches152 said:
There's a gingerbread version for the incredible that's supposed to be coming to testing soon, but who knows how LTE smartphone testing will impact that. Maybe in march or later (after inc HD is released and out for a month)?
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I also believe that we are going to have to wait until the Inc HD comes and sits for a while before we see anything related to Gingerbread on our Inc's. We might get lucky and have it released the same day the Inc HD comes out but Moto is more known to do that. One thing I do believe is that the Inc is not one of the phones that will get left out of the update to 2.3. We might be a little behind the Evo but we will see it.
It's not up to moto, though. Has to go through three stages of carrier testing. Unless VZW tries to release both on the same day, you're gonna get one and the other. Ultimately VZW has the last say.
Hi all. I was just wondering if anyone has heard or knows about the "official" release date for gingerbread. Thanks in advance.
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Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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sabeyta said:
Herd it was summer time which is nice to think bout but gives us a 90 day period we could be lookin at based on wut we consider 'summer'
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Same I also heard it was summer
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Q2 of 2011.
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Damn it. Lol I wish it was before summer. No one wants to stay inside playing on their fresh ass g2
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Just run CM7 in the mean time. There are also bone stock gingerbread roms around.
What ones? I know of no totally aosp gingerbread for g2.
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There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.
I obviously don't want a gingerbread based rom, especially since I asked when the official gingerbread would be released. Thanks though.
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dustrho said:
There's not one single pure stock AOSP Gingerbread based ROM for the G2. Period. Every single one of them is built off CM7, which has lots of bugs. If you don't believe me about the bugs, check them out on their site here...
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list
There's currently 305 issues with CM7, which blows my mind. I've always loved the CM ROMs for my MyTouch3G, MyTouch4G, and 6.1.1 for the G2. However, CM7 has too many bugs for me to use as a daily driver. I prefer running either Sense or Froyo ROMs on my phone, but once the official Gingerbread source code is released and used by devs I'll probably hop on that in a second.
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strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.
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strange, I don't experience a single issue with CM7 or CM7 based roms.
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The only issues I ever experienced was video playback in portrait mode (which I believe has been fixed now) and the Gmail marginal issue (which is STILL broken). Other than that, it's been good to me. But, because I use Gmail religiously throughout the day, I can't use it as my daily driver.
xboarder56's stock gingerbread rom is pretty awesome. it is very stable and has enough mods that you can really tweak your phone, also it is crazy fast and he updates regularly.
On a side note since it's not really thread worthy, If I'm running stock rooted de-odexed Rom, will I be able to just upgrade to Gingerbread as if I wasn't rooted. I mean would I be able to just upgrade to it with no problems.
Not sure what"s exactly meaning of "Official", from T-mobile ? There are so many GingerBread ROM, i vapourily see a office ROM publish in forum, not quite sure.
For most devices it comes stock or has an update released. If you have a rooted device, and want it, download "ROM Manager" and download "CyanogenMod 7.0.0" and this will not give you 2.3.2. but it will give you 2.3.3! But if you want to get it through, Android Via OTA Upadate, you will need to wait til late June 2011.
If it makes anyone feel better the euro galaxy S has an official release + published kernel source, looks like moto is also rolling out GB for it's X's.
For the newly released devices it comes stock, if you want it, Via OTA Android Update, for the T-Mobile G2 you will need to wait til late June 2011. If your device is rooted and you want Gingerbread you will need to download ROM Mangaer and Flash the CyanogenMod 7.0.0 ROM.
Great advancements have been made with the HD2 over the course of the last 6/7 months none more so than us being able to have NAND Android on our phone and much credit and respect due to everyone involved.
I've noticed though over the last few months that Gingerbread with Sense seems to be all the rage, unfortunately I don't believe any great major progress has been made recently, I'm looking through and have flashed various gingersense builds but its the same problems with them all camcorder,graphic glitches, Wi-Fi trouble,etc etc seem to common reoccurring problems,I've no doubt in time that these issues will be resolved but it seems some people who are content to have a build that might only be say 80% complete on their phone just because it is gingersense as opposed to a build that is 100% stable and thats a bit baffling really, as I said no doubt these issues will in time be resolved but until then personally speaking ill just stick with my stable froyo build until I get my Samsung Galaxy S2.
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.....and the point of this was?
MagikWorx said:
.....and the point of this was?
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bit of a smart ass aren't you
The point being that im wondering why no real advancement has been made with gingersense builds, for months now the same issues are still there,im sure in time they will be resolved but to date they haven't been.
Cuz the source code was not released.
gingersense is the most godawful ****ing word I have ever heard. I hate hearing that word, even in my own head.
gingersense.............
!~!!!!!!!
I can do without sense roms personally, but I feel you, fully functional sense builds would be a dream, truly.
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Cuz the source code was not released.
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I wasn't aware of this, i knew that Google didn't release the source code for Honeycomb.
kypeth said:
gingersense is the most godawful ****ing word I have ever heard. I hate hearing that word, even in my own head.
gingersense.............
!~!!!!!!!
I can do without sense roms personally, but I feel you, fully functional sense builds would be a dream, truly.
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BTW i didn't coin the phrase "gingersense" ive no idea who did i just read it on here.
Well google did release gingerbread's source code, but they don't handle the releasing of source code for phones'. The manufacturer's do.
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.....and the point of this was?
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I agree. You never stated that you had a question in the OP. Just that you're staying with froyo with sense. Cool story, bro.
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I have gingercyanomod (did i just make up a word too???) and i tell you pal, ginger is worth it in some perhaps little aspects! (nothing compared to cyanogen mods which i love above all)
all is working ok for me on Android 2.3.4 ...ok, i could do with native usb tethering (theres an app for that!) and true hd camera drivers but these are little things i can live without.
Better that than having to use windows mobile right?
As for sense builds etc, i dont see the point unless you are lucky enough to have bought the TMOUS HD2... every single sense build i tried on my EU HD2, regardless of overclocking, just runs laggy and annoyingly freezes all the time... sure i can have data and sync off and it will run smoother, but thats crap innit?
Using NAND Typhoon for HD2 3.3.2v MAGLDR (clk still has a few bugs imo)
I was looking around to see if the source code for gingersense had been released and I went to http://developer.HTC.com and the first thing on there is HTC Desire HD - GB MR - 2.6.35 kernel source code and when I downloaded it the file is called ace-2.6.35-gb-MR.tar. now I have no idea but isn't that what they need? Or is it there something else?
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Well what the devs have right now is the sensation's build, atleast I think so. Haven't been in that forum in some time.
The devs are waiting for the Desire GB kernel source to be released...then well see some major leaps forward.
Oh and I'm happy with GINGERSENSE because minor graphic glitches don't bother me and I don't use camcorder. WiFi has no issues either for me.
The devs are waiting for the Desire GB kernel source to be released...then well see some major leaps forward.
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well that is good to hear anyway.
Oh and I'm happy with GINGERSENSE because minor graphic glitches don't bother me and I don't use camcorder. WiFi has no issues either for me
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each to their own my friend but a working camcorder is absolutely essential for me and every gingersense build ive tried has had some sort of issue with Wi-Fi so ill just keep the stable build i have.
GB 2.3.3/4 with CM7 runs so smoothly, couldnt change to a sense rom and lose all the smoothness
if ur waiting for anything
its htc to release the source code for their ginger sense and or a group of devs to write up some new drivers for the hd2 case alot of the driver arent compatible with the hd2
Take a look at this!
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
So will our device be from the first to get it?
Shadow_Android said:
our device be from the first to get it?
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Where does it day that?
Take a look at this link for a more detailed post!
CM9 Progress report
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Read caefull dave ...he speculated by stating so will our device? Not our device......read...not rush my friend...
kinda sucks that Motorola Droid users are getting dropped.
But I imagined it was only a matter of time...
The hardware is starting to get limited.
But I wonder if a dual core phone will be the last phone I will ever buy?
It would take quite some time for the OS to exceed the power of a dual core phone.
I think there's a pretty good chance the G2 will be one of the first devices, based on this update.
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The first devices ... that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos.
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The G2's SOC is based on the MSM7230 chip:
http://www.htc.com/us/products/t-mobile-g2/#tech-specs
We'll see what the future holds. Very much looking forward to trying out ICS!
Humm!! I do not see a lot of change for the MSM7230 on cyanogen's git
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But I wonder if a dual core phone will be the last phone I will ever buy?
It would take quite some time for the OS to exceed the power of a dual core phone.
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Surely it's down to how much CPU the apps use, rather than the OS ?
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Well, Cyanogenmod himself owns a G2, so he'd be working on it personally.
Amy news here? I see a new room based on the cm9 code, but no word on the actual cm9...
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I'm also very much looking forward to CM9 for the Desire Z.
All good things come to those who wait!
"The first devices that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30,"
Sounds Desire Z is surely had the arrow on the knee ...
Hope they got the graphical and camera driver developed better than the current ported/AOSP based ICS.
I posted this the other day in the CM7 thread in the dev forum :
Update on CM9 from Cyanogen (Steve Kondik) himself :
We've been seeing some alpha builds of CM9 for a few devices. Where are things at right now?
We’re working on adding a lot of new features ... the theme engine needs to be totally rebuilt. Overall things are going to be a lot cleaner. The CM settings will all be integrated into the stock control panel. Everything in it's place, where it should be. The hardeset thing about CM9 is that Google has changed so much internally with ICS. Issues with graphics drivers are an issue. We can’t even write a transition layer to use. We’re just waiting on Google at this point. I’ve ported CM9 to the galaxy tab 10.1, but with no hardware acceleration... well, it just sucks. A lot of things don't work. We're not going to release something at this stage of development.
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Looks like it's not going to be very soon.
By the way, I clarified with Steve that it is not Google they are waiting on, but graphics drivers from official vendor ICS updates.
Source : http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/meet-the-devs-cyanogen-r318
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steviewevie said:
I posted this the other day in the CM7 thread in the dev forum :
Update on CM9 from Cyanogen (Steve Kondik) himself :
Looks like it's not going to be very soon.
By the way, I clarified with Steve that it is not Google they are waiting on, but graphics drivers from official vendor ICS updates.
Source : http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/meet-the-devs-cyanogen-r318
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Thanks for the update, I have to admit though that I am becoming more and more impatient.
But, I know it will be worth the wait.
I have also been waiting impatiently for CM9, i've been a die-hard CM user since my G1...but a good alternative until they are done is Virtuous Quattro...right now at RC2, but it runs very well on my G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428866
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I have also been waiting impatiently for CM9, i've been a die-hard CM user since my G1...but a good alternative until they are done is Virtuous Quattro...right now at RC2, but it runs very well on my G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428866
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I've been following the thread and there seems to still be many glitches in RC2. Does it run smoothly on your phone? Also does the camera work if u use a 3rd party app? I'm think of switching over to virtuous quattro
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Virtuous Quattro is pretty cool, and once the display issues stabilize, it will probably get a permanent place on my phone unless cm9 blows me away.
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thecompyoda said:
I have also been waiting impatiently for CM9, i've been a die-hard CM user since my G1...but a good alternative until they are done is Virtuous Quattro...right now at RC2, but it runs very well on my G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428866
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I think I may try this one Monday. I had a replacement phone sent to me last week because of a display issue (turning shades of green and sometimes not waking up). The replacement they sent me is now going into a boot cycle when I try and turn on the WiFi, and it doesn't find any networks. Plus, I updated the stock Froyo to Gingerbread, and it looks like a pain somewhat to downgrade.
So maybe when I get the new one in Monday it will have stock Froyo and I can root and install the Virtuous Quattro ROM then.
Maybe you guys can answer a question since I am thinking about it now, if I do root it and everything with stock Froyo, do I just make a backup with ClockworkMod to keep the stock image?
my ics experience: virtuous quattro RC2, Andromadus Alpha 8, ICS Slim 1.2
I tried all three ICS ROMs on my G2 this weekend. Kudos to the devs -- they are all worthy projects. I am back to CM7, though while waiting for CM9 or a more stable version of the other three. Here is my feedback:
Virtuous Quattro RC2:
This is an impressive ROM, but definitely not RC -- the launcher display glitch is a showstopper if only for aesthetic reasons. I'm glad that the camera hack exists (progress!), but it's not yet usable, or at least not reliable. It often crashes, doesn't show preview until the second picture, and often corrupts part of the photo. Also, no wifi-calling which is a must have for many T-Mobile G2 users.
Andromadus Alpha 8:
This ROM is more stable than Virtuous Quattro in terms of visual glitches, but it lacks camera and wifi-calling. I missed some of the settings and features built into Quattro.
ICS Slim 1.2
This ROM performs quite nicely and is definitely slim. I missed the stock Email app, but it was easy to add back in by unzipping an ICS Gapps file. Wifi-calling is installed but not working for me. I was able to launch the app, and get the icon in the notification bar, but wasn't able to actually place or receive calls. Incoming calls were ignored, and outgoing calls would spin on dialing for about 20 seconds, and then end with a beep.
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I have to admit though that I am becoming more and more impatient.
But, I know it will be worth the wait.
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Same here I was thinking we'd see CM9 sometime in february but by the looks of things and how slow the development is, I can only hope for march/april
Just read over on the Xperia blog that in order for SE to get ICS out in the quickest way they will not be upgrading the kernel to the lates version (3.0 I believe) but will be using the same kernel that is currently used in all 2.3 Xperia phones. Here is the link to the article.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/01/0...unchanged-kernel-for-android-4-0-ics-release/
SE says that they have made extensive tweaks and testing to the current kernel and see no benefit to upgrade to the lates in ICS, but rather prefer to maintain the same kernel in order to get ICS the all phones as quickly as possible. I am totally cool with that and I applaud them for their excellent work thus far. I am wonering though if they plan on after releasing ICS if they will release a new upgraded kernel..... either way extremely happy with SE is doing, much better then B.S. Motorola is givine to their customer, aka middle finger.
SE has already learn from their mistake 2010 ago.
2010 ago they are the slowest company for updating, now them maybe the fastest
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SE has already learn from their mistake 2010 ago.
2010 ago they are the slowest company for updating, now them maybe the fastest
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Agreed, yes they have certainly learned from 2010.
They won't update the kernel:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/01/0...unchanged-kernel-for-android-4-0-ics-release/
So we will get ICS, just not a new kernel? Will ICS slow down our phones if we are still using the old kernel?
Couldn't a dev just make a kernel based on the new sources? Or would that be just absurd?
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Couldn't a dev just make a kernel based on the new sources? Or would that be just absurd?
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It would be a ton of work, I know cause I used to own a P500 ( Optimus one) and devs over there have been working on the .35 kernel since july and it's still not in good condition(graphical errors, heavy battery drainage) not to mention that it was not from scratch.
So yeah it would be absurd for the devs to do so much work for free
i'm fine with this, the problem i have is verizon will never update this phone again, but hopefully we'll see some cdma love from the devs
I hope most people are aware that ICS will break some apps that normally work now. Facing the same issue with my Transformer Prime, but all in all it's a great step up for the OS.
Meh, its a little disappointing, but no big deal. Maybe once they get the updates out they can look at it