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Hey Vijay!

I think I remember that you posted a screenshot of several programms running on a Universal, each in individual windows, like on a real desktop. Now I can't find that post anymore. Did I just dream it, or are you really working on that? Is you are, what the status? Is anything available for testing yet?

Rapax!
Yes, you dreamed it. I was walking back home yesterday and was worrying that I'm dreaming in c++. I started thinking that this must be the Matrix or something - you know that feeling when you're dreaming along, driving your Bentley GT Coupe
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and suddenly wake up to the reality of Buzz's car:
Well I was having that feeling - did I really write VJSihaya or just dream it? I'm so often delirious from a lack of sleep, I'm sure I'm just going to wake up with a buggy version of VJPong or something instead :shock:
The app is called VJSihaya. As the name implies (read the thread for why it's called what it is), it's a long term ambition rather than anything immediate. The windowing system itself is pretty much done, just tweaking and playing with new skins. Although I've promised not to write further code on it until I've bugfixed some old apps, yesterday on a whim I incorporated Today plugins, so you can have windowed Today items (eg a copy of weather panel to open and close as required, a floating Calendar plugin etc) which will turn into hopefully a Today replacement. New screenshots soon.
The next stage is a full desktop replacement (easy! I write those for breakfast ) Once the rough code is in place and functional, I'll then refine to provide an open skin support etc. But this all in a galaxy far far away yet. Three guys are playing with the windowing system preview to get some feedback which will be incorporated.
VJSihaya might just not happen at all, there's a lot of code that I think is beyond me, and it'll be a learning experience. But, who knows. I hope I can get it out, because I think it looks cool, even if it's ultimately useless. And we wouldn't have $1000 phones if we didn't want to show off, eh :wink:
V

LOL @ V
excellent!

You need to get some sleep vijay!

Awesome!
It looks grand. I see you mentioned that you currently don't need any testers, so I won't pester you about that. But I do hope that someday you'll release a finished (or even just fairly finished) version. My Boss has a pretty little Sharp Zaurus, and likes showing of with his pdaXrom --> http://www.pdaxrom.org/screenshots.php?menuid=2. With VJSihaya, I'd have a mighty weapon in the showing off contest (And your absolutely right that it's just for showing off, but thats half the fun, isn't it?)

Hey Vijay
How do you know this is not a looooooo :lol: oooooong dream-?????
and your not really this crazy but have a sane simple life with no stresses and the worlds a peace full place-
dam i think i need some sleep!
lol

V

Hey VJ.
Really nice work....appreciated by your greeeeeeeeeeeat effort on making our Universal running amazingly.
However, I do think you should get more rest..you know, stress ain't no good
Good Luck
Cheers
Julius

Yeh, I'm still awake on 10 hours sleep in 3 days.
I'm starting to worry... but doing some nice work on VJOkButt - thumb friendly reminders are back.
Going to finish that in a moment and then finally get some rest. Thank God it's Sunday
V

All I'll say is that VJSihaya is something I'd actually consider paying for.
BTW Vijay, you wanted a cpy of my ROM didn't you? If you want to meet up in London sometime and take a copy off my phone that's cool.

Riceburner: I've promised that I wouldn't work on VJSihaya until I finish some bug work on older apps, and I've spent the last week or so, when I've not been working at the office, doing that. New release of VJOkButt hopefully tonight. Some other stuff shortly after that.
I've spent a HUGE amount of time doing R&D on stuff you won't see immediate benefits of, but when they come, they come. I had the camera flash hack 99% done for quite a while, but one breakthrough made it happen.
I miss working on VJSihaya. I've got so many ideas for it...
Ok: Riceburner I would love to meet up. You've got a universal right? Why did I want a copy of your ROM? Can't remember, but I spent MANY horrible hours yesterday decompiling Roms for devices I've never heard of (MPX300?!) to try and work on cross compatibilty for the torch app. So I think I've got a Universal rom, but remind me why I asked for it?
Anyway, even if I don't need the ROM, I'm in Central London (near St Pauls) if anyone wants to join me for a coke, coffee, Ball and Biscuit etc.
V

vijay555 said:
Why did I want a copy of your ROM
V
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check your email.

Anyone else notice the few amount of kernels and ROMs?

I have only seen one kernel.. the one posted here, works nice but are we going to start seeing more?
Same with ROMs.. there's captains, the cyanogen 5 port, which is buggy and then ozzy's. Maybe another one or two that I missed.. I was just wondering if were going to see a lot more start coming in the future? Or are we losing developers to the MOTO x? :/
I know were getting cyanogen 6 in the near future support too
And I'm not saying it has to be froyo.. just an awesome Rom, something new!
Droid Incredible Rooted!

it's still a bit soon.

what exactly are you looking for in a custom kernel? Now that we can flash a custom kernel, really the top things in my opinion are wifi-tether, VPN, undervolt/under/over clock, and thats about it...the rest of kernel pretty much works fine as is.

That's what I keep saying.. I just see the evo forum and they have a ton of stuff and hacks! Lol
Droid Incredible Rooted!

the phone had 3 roms and a kernel up the day it was rooted, and thats not impressive? i think people are forgetting the amount of work it takes to tailor an entire OS to a phone....

I know people are going to reply and say, give it time, root's still hard to come by and the reflash tool, just came out. But unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder the same as you, that the incredible is being passed over in favor of the motorola droid X. Which is a shame, cause I think the incredible's a great phone. Hope it wasn't wrong place wrong time for it, cause I'd love to see a 2.2 cyanogen 6 ROM for it...
<crossing fingers>

andrew53517 said:
That's what I keep saying.. I just see the evo forum and they have a ton of stuff and hacks! Lol
Droid Incredible Rooted!
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you cant compare the evo's progression to incredibles. the evo's software was released before the phone was, hence its root being achieved before anyone even had the phone, and the result in more roms and dev for the phone..

Well, I think a few of the problems that we have are that first, the nand is not completely unlocked which is why some haven't started doing a lot of work yet, and second, while there are some excellent devs working and providing support for the Incredible, many devs are shying away from it because it is a CDMA phone and cannot be unlocked quite like a GSM phone. I love Verizon's service but I sure do miss the days of swapping my sim card between several phones.
It's coming though, I'm sure we'll see lots of roms eventually (but the important question is how many will be different).

ejkeebler said:
I know people are going to reply and say, give it time, root's still hard to come by and the reflash tool, just came out. But unfortunately, I'm starting to wonder the same as you, that the incredible is being passed over in favor of the motorola droid X. Which is a shame, cause I think the incredible's a great phone. Hope it wasn't wrong place wrong time for it, cause I'd love to see a 2.2 cyanogen 6 ROM for it...
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No its been confirmed that were getting cyanogen mod 6 and future releases. So nothing to worry there. Which is probably the best Rom around, but I'd love to see others. That's all. I just hope we don't lose them to the MOTO X which would be ashame.
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Seriously. Give it time its been 1 week.

Things take time - remember of course that there's a smaller userbase (devs included) for the DI than other phones and that the phone's only been rooted a week.
The way I look at it - in a week's time, I've gotten root, I've had a custom recovery, a nandroid backup, wireless tethering, 802.11n networking and an undervoltage kernel to improve battery life. I call that one pretty sweet week

Thread cleaned up. Please keep it civilized.

Probobly because half the people on this forum cant even get root because of finicky SD Cards not allowing the various methods to work

What about themes ? We need more Roms and themes please !
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All I want is cyanogen mod with a decent theme.. preferably darkedge I could care less about the rest..hopefully wiimote will work with it.

giantcrazy said:
Things take time - remember of course that there's a smaller userbase (devs included) for the DI than other phones and that the phone's only been rooted a week.
The way I look at it - in a week's time, I've gotten root, I've had a custom recovery, a nandroid backup, wireless tethering, 802.11n networking and an undervoltage kernel to improve battery life. I call that one pretty sweet week
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THIS
TBH I am coming from the Hero (waiting...so impatiently for the incredible) and of all the roms, I ended up getting back to the basic root as above here.

rom chasing...
I had a G-1 Dream and the devs were churning out roms right and left. I do remember it starting very slowly at first and 1 or 2 devs. Hero and a couple others. and then everybody and his brother got on board. Same with the ppc apache. Off we went chasing the latest revision of our favorite devs build. It will happen here as well. It seems slow, but we are at the very forefront and on a platform that is a bit more difficult than the dream. Give it time and give yourself some patience. And definatly give these guys your support as they start to churn out a new batch of software. Don't give them a bunch of winy impatient user base that they would end up tiring of developing for and end up feeling that we are ungrateful. Hell I cant even root mine yet and kinda gave up for awhile until an easier, surer way is found and the nand thing is solved. And wow is it so much easier to come in and read the posts and not get so caught up into the hype and the sometimes disappointment involved with this whole process. I chased roms through a few platforms and finally learned to relax and let it happen. What a difference it is from chasing them down...

The Problem with the ROMs is YOU.

You as in me. Me as in us. Us as in everyone here.
In my time here I've begun to notice a trend we all tend to follow. We as a community of Evo 4G owners are already committed to the bleeding edge. By contributing additional time and effort to rooting, romming, and pushing our hardware, we gleefully fling ourselves over that bleeding edge into the dark abyss below.
I've reformatted and wiped my phone completely somewhere north of 200 times. Now I'm to the point where I just want something that works while I focus on other projects. In an effort to find the Holy Grail of "perfect" implementations, I've noticed that it is my own finagling with the distributions that causes instability and poor battery life.
The devs are pretty clear about what the goals of their distributions are, what you can expect, and what happens if you don't read directions. If a rom isn't living up to YOUR expectations, then either you should take inventory of what you expect from a voluntary effort or take up the mantle of cooking your own.
So next time you complain that you are on an AOSP that can't use Sense widgets, a ROM that doesn't have HDMI (and clearly states it in prior to installation) for the 1% of people who think their phone is a VCR, or doesn't get the same battery life as a nuclear submarine; you might want to take these facts into consideration.
Honestly, I know this rant is wasted on those that complain in the rom threads over and over and over again. They've already demonstrated they can't read anyway.
Be kind to our Devs. The last thing any of us needs is them to feel suffocated by our insane demands and to run off screaming into the night. Without them, you'd still all be stuck on an unrooted phone pushing 30 frames per second and getting 14 minutes of talk time before it exploded in your hands.

Well said!

well said indeed.
though i think some feedback is always need as it helps the devs in some ways. I to have noticed a lot of people have moved from feedback to demands. (the damage control rom is a good example of this. they havent put an update out in while. All yuo see when your ead the thread now is hey why isnt there an update we need an update. but when these people are asked what they think needs fixed or what they need in the update ... most just cant tell you. I'm not saying damage control is perfect as is because it isnt. there are new tweaks i am sure they could put in to adjust this or that a little. I just think it is funny how so many are demanding an update for an updates sake in that instance and because there hasnt been one refer to the rom as being dead.)
seems like a lot dont read the op for the rom either and complain. anther example is in evio 1.2 calk switched the home and back buttons function purposely. it says he did in the op and says he feels it works better and provides a zip to revert that change if you dont like it. still tons of posts of people complaining and demanding a fix yet ... its already done and explained its a feature.
sorry thought i would join your rant lol.

Until someone makes a rom with the gbs and the wifis, I reserve the right to complain like a little school girl whose shoes are too tight.

rugedraw said:
Until someone makes a rom with the gbs and the wifis, I reserve the right to complain like a little school girl whose shoes are too tight.
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i want the one with more gbs kthx.

also please remember that its a phone

oh it's always nice to get that rom that "works". but sometimes it's fun to try out a new feature. if you are a constant flasher, time reinstalling is the price you pay. if a person finds themselves constantly flashing, they should make sure they use backup programs to make the process take less time. there are also OTA rom updates now, which were hinted at on WM, but since it's current iteration (6.5.x) is about to be "legacy" soon, i don't think it was made a reality. the demands vs. request thing can get annoying though. maybe an update to the forum rules where such behavior and be reported might be an option. lastly, yes, we understand that some of you paid good money for your phone and don't have a ton of cash, but there are people doing stuff for free that they could keep to themselves. skip a lunch out or a combo meal ONE time, and donate that to someone whose roms you use on a regular basis or a really cool app. if you wrap your head around it, it is reciprocation for the unselfish act these devs are doing.

This thread-full-of-win calls for a toast, a toast with awesome sauce
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hold it...you mean we're supposed to read the whole OP? that's a lot of reading to ask of some folks.

tl;dr
well put

Very well put.
I'll be linking your post in every new "THIS ROM SUCKS / NEEDS THIS / DOESN'T HAVE THIS" thread I see.

DraginMagik said:
hold it...you mean we're supposed to read the whole OP? that's a lot of reading to ask of some folks.
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Reading???!!! There's an app for that.....

These things make phone calls
I learn something new everyday, now if I could just find a ROM that'll let me do that.

VSack said:
for the 1% of people who think their phone is a VCR
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The reference to a VCR made me laugh hard enough that my wife looked at me like I was crazy.
Good post though. I agree with you. I'm still very new to Android, but I think some people take these things way too far.
I appreciate all of those who put so much time into helping others here, whether they be finding new root exploits, cooking roms, putting together new kernels, or designing new themes, apps, boot animations, etc.
The thing those people need to keep in mind is that the devs aren't doing it for a paycheck. They're doing it because they enjoy it. They just happen to be nice enough to share, so we can enjoy it too.
Sent from my Burnt EVO via the XDA app.

your post is to hard to read. what are you talking about.. will you update with new info. oh and then spoon feed it to me cause my browser magically is missing the search button and Google FC's everytime I try to use it.
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[TEASER] MultiROM for HTC One M9

[TEASER] MultiROM for HTC One M9
yep, i'm just teasing here :angel:
very early testing phase (and obviously no kernel yet either)
MultiROM recovery:
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MultiROM Boot Menu(s):
No kernel with kexec hardboot :crying:
Not sure why I'm teasing at all... guess just happy to have gotton this far
when / (if?) I get a better build it'll go the the dev section, but just had to post those screenshots

You might want to speak with Paul from Modaco about this. He's done this before.

dladz said:
You might want to speak with Paul from Modaco about this. He's done this before.
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nice thanks :good: does he have a kernel for us
I was/am hoping for @flar2 ... as far as I am concerned, he is the leading authority on kernels, imho.

nkk71 said:
nice thanks :good: does he have a kernel for us
I was/am hoping for @flar2 ... as far as I am concerned, he is the leading authority on kernels, imho.
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He's pretty much one of the original android pioneers, and an all around nice chap.. Not sure if he has a kernel but he was working on a dual boot for the m7 I believe, and that was functional.
Not sure how you'd even contact him, Paul O'Brien I think his full name is. Has a website called Modaco. He may be able to help with some things.

dladz said:
He's pretty much one of the original android pioneers, and an all around nice chap.. Not sure if he has a kernel but he was working on a dual boot for the m7 I believe, and that was functional.
Not sure how you'd even contact him, Paul O'Brien I think his full name is. Has a website called Modaco. He may be able to help with some things.
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Many thanks again, but I'm actually working off a port from @Tasssadar
I have been able to get [modified] TWRP recovery to work, as well as get to the multirom (both by tassader) boot menu
"we" still have to implement a kernel with kexec-hardboot, I will be looking into it, but as mentioned before the most qualified person is still @flar2

I can't wait for this! It's one of my most-missed features from my old m7. Since we've got a SD card slot, storage shouldn't be an issue!

nkk71 said:
Many thanks again, but I'm actually working off a port from @Tasssadar
I have been able to get [modified] TWRP recovery to work, as well as get to the multirom (both by tassader) boot menu
"we" still have to implement a kernel with kexec-hardboot, I will be looking into it, but as mentioned before the most qualified person is still @flar2
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Fair enough, all in saying is, this guy has already done it before

I asked @flar2 if he could add kexec to elemental. Hopefully he can find time to do it, fingers crossed!

skulldreamz said:
I asked @flar2 if he could add kexec to elemental. Hopefully he can find time to do it, fingers crossed!
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it does look like a LOT of work... i'm by far the most idiotic person (including kernel development) but if the source isnt already in place, then YES, it will be a handful
then again, i'm no kernel dev, nor would i even know where to find all those "missing" files
"perhaps" someone will :fingers-crossed:

Hi there
What s the status of this project ? is the code available anywhere on github?
Cheers

gnuton said:
Hi there
What s the status of this project ? is the code available anywhere on github?
Cheers
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Unfortunately, had more than enough setbacks
Laptop died
Repo(s) gone along with it
Etc.
Actually tried rebuilding yesterday, but now I have bunch of errors
Can't even compile properly
I had it working, difficulty, but working for a while.
Until I can figure out what's wrong (since the help, or lack thereof is abundant.. To say the least) it's on hold
I never pushed my changes, since they are way too early
But if you want my patch sets, you can pm me
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

project is back online, with quite some progress
feel free to vote, if you'd like
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nkk71 said:
project is back online, with quite some progress
feel free to vote, if you'd like
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YES PLEASE!!! :victory::victory: I have been waiting for multirom ever since i got my m9 when it was first released, i love it on my Nexus 7 and have been missing it dearly.:crying:

I follow Multirom project since it started for nexus 7 2012, and tried it for several different phones and tablet....
even if I think that is amazing, and many devs said what I say is no sense, I think that it screws something up. I feel secondary roms and also primary slower or laggier, maybe is a placebo but I never changed my idea about that. though I would use this
keep up! let's bring to this section something nice

As an ex active theme maker, you'd probably make me start making some once again if you could figure this out. I really like Sense, but I need fast transitions to CM - so backups we not an option.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

Ramazor said:
As an ex active theme maker, you'd probably make me start making some once again if you could figure this out. I really like Sense, but I need fast transitions to CM - so backups we not an option.
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I may take you up on that quite soon
or even sooner,
can confirm the following (a couple of hours or so ago)
Current ROM: ViperOneM9 3.5.0
flashed, modified TWRP (TWRP-multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.img)
installed new MultiROM zip (multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.zip)
Code:
07/12/2015 16:46 4,381,644 multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.zip
07/12/2015 16:43 40,296,448 recovery-multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.img
for testing, flashed straight into secondary: "Slim-himaul-5.1.1.beta.0.8-DM-DEV-20151002-1240.zip"
and yep, MultiROM boot menu popped up properly, selected Slim, booted fine.... okay didnt test it too much, then selected reboot, and chose internal again
.... and it's working, no damage, as far as i can tell
but I do have waaaaay too much [added] debug code in there, so that needs to be cleaned up, before a new development thread can [finally] be opened.
(didnt have to do any of the manual stuff I had to before, everything worked as expected; obviously this is a huge workaround, and yes, there are circumstances that can get you into "a bit" of trouble, for the time being, let's call it a "lingering" primary_boot.img.... you'll hear that term again)
soon I hope
.
PS: I'm not a video kinda person, though it would be a nice proof that it works,
but, I don't like videos, I just tease
and it will be released as a "beta" even if functioning properly / as expected

nkk71 said:
I may take you up on that quite soon
or even sooner,
can confirm the following (a couple of hours or so ago)
Current ROM: ViperOneM9 3.5.0
flashed, modified TWRP (TWRP-multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.img)
installed new MultiROM zip (multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.zip)
Code:
07/12/2015 16:46 4,381,644 multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.zip
07/12/2015 16:43 40,296,448 recovery-multirom-20151207-v32-01-UNOFFICIAL-hima.img
for testing, flashed straight into secondary: "Slim-himaul-5.1.1.beta.0.8-DM-DEV-20151002-1240.zip"
and yep, MultiROM boot menu popped up properly, selected Slim, booted fine.... okay didnt test it too much, then selected reboot, and chose internal again
.... and it's working, no damage, as far as i can tell
but I do have waaaaay too much [added] debug code in there, so that needs to be cleaned up, before a new development thread can [finally] be opened.
(didnt have to do any of the manual stuff I had to before, everything worked as expected; obviously this is a huge workaround, and yes, there are circumstances that can get you into "a bit" of trouble, for the time being, let's call it a "lingering" primary_boot.img.... you'll hear that term again)
soon I hope
.
PS: I'm not a video kinda person, though it would be a nice proof that it works,
but, I don't like videos, I just tease
and it will be released as a "beta" even if functioning properly / as expected
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This is awesome news! Thank you so much for putting the time into this project.

This thread is no longer needed
so I'm closing it
You can find the real thing here: [MOD]MultiROM v32a-beta for M9

We need Cyanogenmod or Devs to make a unofficial port

Honor 7 is a very good phone never been so surprised over a phone in this price range has so good quality and functionality have to add it has the best fingerprint sensor out there and looks great. Enough about that.
Huawei have released the kernel that stopped devs to start developing not so long ago. So there is nothing in the way anymore. Or is it anything more?
Was looking around and came over someone who was willing to pay for a dev to do this Job for him on Guru.com hes Guru Username is CU T and from Malaysia he got ok rep on the site. He offered $3500for the job.
Here is hes listing on Guru.com
www.guru.com/jobs/cyanogenmod-rom-for-huawei-honor-7/1185430#proposalModal
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Only one that had a offer. I do not know how much time this takes but would it take a year and $24000 to make a unofficial port to Honor 7?
Get involved everyone and post on cyanogenmod official forum link is provided at the end and ask for a Unofficial port! HONOR 7 is better than so many smartphones on the marked they have supported.
[Request] Cyanogenmod For Huawei Honor 7
Will also add they seems to have stopped supporting newer Huawei they have official CM for Huawei Ascend Mate 2.
LOOK! Forum have a section for Huawei. (Made my dog pee inside he was so excited)

:laugh: hilarious
off you go then...
"i demand you make something just because i want you to! never mind it's gonna be a real ball-ache, and there will be about 50 total downloads, and you'll have to spend months bug-fixing and doing updates, and listening to people moan that it doesn't have this or that, who cares it's not a snapdragon, or qualcomm chipset, i want code written for that running on my Kirin, and you probably don't even own the handset, but do it for me!"
sarcasm is hard to get across in text... but i tried..
I'll drop this in just for fun.. codeworkx (an awesome CM dev) did and unofficial CM for honor 6...
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Huawei is not worth my time
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good luck :silly:

Agreed sminki.
I certainly don't 'need' anything. I have a great phone and am grateful for the updates and tweaks we already have. The two other phone in our household have CM and I much prefer my H7.

i was a bit harsh, and in a bad mood, so to put my point a little more diplomatic...
to get CM (or any other) on here will require someone with dev abilities and the handset, because it cannot simply be "ported" over, there is no base to work from as such, it has to be built for the handset. someone with the handset and drive to get it done will, not because people want it, or because of a thanks button.
shouting "i want" in a forum, be it here or CM isn't going to suddenly make a capable person do it. paying someone will only end in disaster, they're not doing it for the 'right' reason, and even if they cook up something and not just "take off with the cash" - long term will offer no support
just to make myself even more unpopular, i prefer OMNI anyway :laugh:

why this?
CM is aosp rom as other nothing special same things for the last 10 year only news is CAF version.
PA stop developer and same AOKP and all aosp rom are similar
EMUI is a new way have a good battery saver and lot of feature that we missing with aosp.
if want modding the only best devices are Nexus easy step for root/recovery all team support device and all source are available on Google site.
Obviously my thoughts

I've started playing with CyanogenMod on my Honor 7 (because I made the fatal mistake of buying it instead of something with actual devs working on it), however it's very early on - all I have is working ADB access and a lot of things to learn. Don't get your hopes up too quickly, Mali drivers are apparently painful to get right.

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asiekierka said:
I've started playing with CyanogenMod on my Honor 7 (because I made the fatal mistake of buying it instead of something with actual devs working on it), however it's very early on - all I have is working ADB access and a lot of things to learn. Don't get your hopes up too quickly, Mali drivers are apparently painful to get right.
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By saying that, you already have everyone's hope up
I wish you all the luck, especially as I'm now out of the game :good:

sminki said:
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By saying that, you already have everyone's hope up
I wish you all the luck, especially as I'm now out of the game :good:
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