Possible Email / Exchange problem - G2 and Desire Z General

Hi there -
I work under contract for my job. At the end of the year, they generally axe all of us, and bring me back. Since I'm a domain admin, they generally strip my rights and disable my account. This time, when I was brought back - I couldn't use my email on my phone (CM 6.1) using either Touchdown or the Email client. I changed my password and everything. I've since installed CM 7 Nightly build 18, and it's still the same. The problem is it says: "Authentication Failed." When I log into my exchange server I'm enabled for Active Sync and OWA. And I've been back for three weeks.
I'm wondering if this is a potential problem with Android 2.2+? I'm going to reformat my SD card in case it has bad SSL certs saved for the app.
Any ideas would be great
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Hi,
I have heard, heard only mind, that exchange can have issues with HTC devices if you do NOT have an HSDCS (HSD, High Speed Data etc)connection and thus you get sync errors.
Never had a problem on my desire with stock 1.72 (damn and double damn as I don't have root as yet!) and exchange. Bar those few occasions I was actually outside a reception area.
Certificates shouldn't cause an authentication issue unless personal ones, no? Sounds odd.
Des. . .

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[Q] Exchange Syncing

has anyone found a way to sync the droid to exchange???? and better yet without a password. We could sync with version 2.1 but since upgrading to 2.2 we can no longer sync to the server
I use it with my work email .... My company is on Exchange 2003. Never had any problems with 2.1 or 2.2. Calendar, Global Address Book and Email all work perfectly. (I don't sync contacts as I use my Gmail contacts.)
i am able to sync to exchange with both touchdown and the preinstalled apps no problem.
+1
Never had an issue with corporate sync or touchdown
It's hard to beleive no one is here or ppcg uses a 2010 exchange.
Yes Sapo! I too am having problems with corp sync. Its all over the Droid forums.
The problem is primeraly with domains having more then 3 letters after the dot. Yes the old 2000 2003 and some 2007 exchanges work.
But its hit or miss...
In our case, we have a .info and no one at Moto, thought people would use 2010 exchanges.
Moto said they are working on it and offer the pos touchdown licence as a temp fix. Problem with td is it does not integrate with phone. It is stand alone. Contacts are exclusively on its UI it sucks!
SOLVED!
If anyone is having exchange problems, your probably on a 2010 or 2007sr2.
Try using the numeric server address. But only in last question or box.
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cyberhern said:
SOLVED!
If anyone is having exchange problems, your probably on a 2010 or 2007sr2.
Try using the numeric server address. But only in last question or box.
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I'm trying to help a friend out with this problem as I have an Evo.
What's the easiest way to get the numerical address as you say?
This really is silly...they should have considered this long ago.
thank for any help you can give...
It's more than that unfortunately. Verizon is apparently aware of this issue with blur email. Stock froyo mail doesn't have this issue. Maybe fixed in the next OTA.

Exchange security still not working

hello,
i am so chocked that nobody is complaining about Exchange security not working with GRI40 either. the only ROM working fine are HTC Sense rom...
i know it is not important for most of you but i am stucked with a phone that cannot connect to my Exchange system...but i want vanilla ROM working...
I have no issues.
securities policy
difrnt said:
I have no issues.
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Password/PIN required
failed attempts 10
Min Length 5
Timeout 1800 sec.
Password recovery.
This is what i need and this is not supported by vanilla Android ROM.
Only touchdown and HTC sense support this.
So this work for you but only for basic security, not like 95 % of enterprise companies out there...
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cedricj said:
Password/PIN required
failed attempts 10
Min Length 5
Timeout 1800 sec.
Password recovery.
This is what i need and this is not supported by vanilla Android ROM.
Only touchdown and HTC sense support this.
So this work for you but only for basic security, not like 95 % of enterprise companies out there...
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Maybe only 5% of the companies have that restriction??
I have used my phone with two different "enterprise" companies and have not had an issue.
No issues here either. Using a major law firms exchange.
Liking the update to include signatures on replies now. That's the way it should be.
Exchange Sync Issues
I also had (have?) issues and I mentioned them as part of another note on my overall response to 2.3.3. (in a phrase, not worth it) but nobody else seemed to be interested in that thread. So, welcome.
2.3.3. on my stock N1 has suffered the following problems:
1. Would not connect to Exchange server after I updated to 2.3.3
2. So I cleared data in "email" app, forced close, and tried to reinstall from
Home>Menu>Accounts. Also rebooted.
3. When trying to install from Home>Menu>Accounts I found NO PROVISION FOR MANUAL SETUP, i.e., manually entering domain name and exchange server ID; you can only enter your email address and password. The Gingerbread Manual mentions there is provision for manual setup in case of problems, but they don't tell you that you have to. . .
4. Set up from eMail App in the App drawer. When I set up that way there is a button for Manual Install.
5. Without Manual Install it is probable that your phone is assuming a domain name or ID that is wrong, and it will never connect.
6. After the successful re-install and use for about a day, 2.3.3. wiped out my server connection again arbitrarily (I never turn the phone off/on, etc.; it just did it) and I had to set up again.
This is definitely a BUG in 2.3.3--very definitely the inability to manually set up from any screen on which you can set up an account.
Same problem here, although it looks that Exchange is setup correctly -following instructions of ecdy, there is NO data synchronization at all with my exchange account! As under Froyo there were no problems at all, this MUST be a Gingerbread bug. Anybody any solution, workaround, please?
N1, unrooted stock, 2.3.3. OTA.
ecdy said:
I also had (have?) issues and I mentioned them as part of another note on my overall response to 2.3.3. (in a phrase, not worth it) but nobody else seemed to be interested in that thread. So, welcome.
2.3.3. on my stock N1 has suffered the following problems:
1. Would not connect to Exchange server after I updated to 2.3.3
2. So I cleared data in "email" app, forced close, and tried to reinstall from
Home>Menu>Accounts. Also rebooted.
3. When trying to install from Home>Menu>Accounts I found NO PROVISION FOR MANUAL SETUP, i.e., manually entering domain name and exchange server ID; you can only enter your email address and password. The Gingerbread Manual mentions there is provision for manual setup in case of problems, but they don't tell you that you have to. . .
4. Set up from eMail App in the App drawer. When I set up that way there is a button for Manual Install.
5. Without Manual Install it is probable that your phone is assuming a domain name or ID that is wrong, and it will never connect.
6. After the successful re-install and use for about a day, 2.3.3. wiped out my server connection again arbitrarily (I never turn the phone off/on, etc.; it just did it) and I had to set up again.
This is definitely a BUG in 2.3.3--very definitely the inability to manually set up from any screen on which you can set up an account.
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I do believe there is an issue with not having the manual setup option. I read somewhere on here that someone got the manual option after the automatic setup failed 10 times. A bug yes, but once account is set up, everything works as it should.
derfo said:
I do believe there is an issue with not having the manual setup option. I read somewhere on here that someone got the manual option after the automatic setup failed 10 times. A bug yes, but once account is set up, everything works as it should.
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No, pity, NOTHING works as it should - read my post above, please. Since Gingerbread (N1, stock, unrooted, 2.3.3. OTA) exchange sync lost, although it LOOKS set up correctly (accepts all, password, username) does NOT sync mail, calendar!
Anybody any solution please?
Strange thing noticed: after OTA Gingerbread Hotmail account in mail survived, exchange account (company) went lost.. Anything to do with problem?
bmszabo said:
No, pity, NOTHING works as it should - read my post above, please. Since Gingerbread (N1, stock, unrooted, 2.3.3. OTA) exchange sync lost, although it LOOKS set up correctly (accepts all, password, username) does NOT sync mail, calendar!
Anybody any solution please?
Strange thing noticed: after OTA Gingerbread Hotmail account in mail survived, exchange account (company) went lost.. Anything to do with problem?
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I did a manual upgrade to GB (clean upgrade). Maybe the OTA has broken something.
Exchange Sync problems
As far as other email accounts are concerned: GMail worked fine; Yahoo! Mail, which was originally set up in the OS's "Accounts" mode, didn't work. Downloading the Yahoo! Mail App fixed that.
Maybe there's a Hotmail app too.
It sounds like bmszabo isn't getting refreshed (synced); check all accounts settings that adjust sync frequency and do a "sync now" to see if it works.
Before I erased all the data in my Exchange a/c on the phone I would get a screen with all my emails and contacts up to the point where I had installed 2.3.3, but nothing thereafter. The phone will store old data but if it can't connect to the server it won't add anything new. Why does bmszabo say "it LOOKS set up correctly (accepts all, password, username)"? It will remember the correct pwd and username as you put them in, along with an incorrect domain name and server, and never be able to connect.
ecdy said:
It sounds like bmszabo isn't getting refreshed (synced); check all accounts settings that adjust sync frequency and do a "sync now" to see if it works.
Before I erased all the data in my Exchange a/c on the phone I would get a screen with all my emails and contacts up to the point where I had installed 2.3.3, but nothing thereafter. The phone will store old data but if it can't connect to the server it won't add anything new. Why does bmszabo say "it LOOKS set up correctly (accepts all, password, username)"? It will remember the correct pwd and username as you put them in, along with an incorrect domain name and server, and never be able to connect.
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Sorry, trying to explain things happened since GB OTA upgrade: after setting up exchange account, Exchange sync setup looks allrite, after asking about administrator priorities (and accepting them) sync sign turns green, looks like account setup correct, shows empty mailbox, but it DOES NOT sync with my mail, neither with calendar; as a matter of fact, my exchange calendar does not even show up on the list of calendars in Agenda...
O yes, forgotten: manual sync, although green wheel spins shortly, does not change a thing, neither..
Another similar issue with Exchange not syncing came up with CM 6.1.1. The fix was to reinstall the Email.apk.
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/13900-fix-exchange-2010-activesync/
ecdy said:
3. When trying to install from Home>Menu>Accounts I found NO PROVISION FOR MANUAL SETUP, i.e., manually entering domain name and exchange server ID; you can only enter your email address and password. The Gingerbread Manual mentions there is provision for manual setup in case of problems, but they don't tell you that you have to. . .
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Firstly, you enter email and password. If you want to include domain name - you write your email like this: domain\[email protected]
After you enter it, whether it fails or succeeds - it presents you with manual setup screen.
derfo said:
Maybe only 5% of the companies have that restriction??
I have used my phone with two different "enterprise" companies and have not had an issue.
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5 % pf the companies uses Exchange security? you must be kidding right? what my company is asking for in term of security is just basic. So i cannot believe that sorry.
This is really basic functionalities for security. It works on iphone, on Sense, on Symbian, but not on Android. So i am not getting it. If it works everywhere else than Android, it means that definitively more than 5 % of companies are requiring these basic security features.
My 2 cents of course and nothing personal!
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cedricj said:
5 % pf the companies uses Exchange security? you must be kidding right? what my company is asking for in term of security is just basic. So i cannot believe that sorry.
This is really basic functionalities for security. It works on iphone, on Sense, on Symbian, but not on Android. So i am not getting it. If it works everywhere else than Android, it means that definitively more than 5 % of companies are requiring these basic security features.
My 2 cents of course and nothing personal!
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What I am saying is that there are plenty of people who are able to connect to their Exchange servers just fine which do HAVE exchange security enabled. Maybe your company has additional security restrictions enabled. If so, then your company will fall in the 5% subset.
derfo said:
What I am saying is that there are plenty of people who are able to connect to their Exchange servers just fine which do HAVE exchange security enabled. Maybe your company has additional security restrictions enabled. If so, then your company will fall in the 5% subset.
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well got your point... But why does all vendors supports the ""Only"" 5 % but not Android?
well...
who cares... probably the answer...
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I am using cyanogenmod 7 RC1 (gingerbread) and have tried multiple roms including googles vanilla and NONE of them have supported my company's exchange setup. This was supposed to be fixed in froyo and for people using sense it is fixed.
Basically when i manually setup activesync it says the phone doesn't support the security features.
Who cares if my company uses extra security or not. It works on HTC and iphone/ipad.
Google is basically doing half assed exchange support and I will keep telling people they will probably need to shell out for touchdown if they move to android until they fix it.
Google needs to support ALL ACTIVESYNC SECURITY settings, anything less isn't good enough.
I think You are right; Exchange sync (cal, mail) worked PERFECT with Froyo, and with Gingerbread it is completely lost.. I don't think any firm can do this to customers using their OS, and I do hope somebody gots a solution soon (or: Google fixes the issue?).
In the meanwhile: as I cannot use my company mail/ calendar: I wish I stayed with Froyo!!
jerkfaceirl said:
I am using cyanogenmod 7 RC1 (gingerbread) and have tried multiple roms including googles vanilla and NONE of them have supported my company's exchange setup. This was supposed to be fixed in froyo and for people using sense it is fixed.
Basically when i manually setup activesync it says the phone doesn't support the security features.
Who cares if my company uses extra security or not. It works on HTC and iphone/ipad.
Google is basically doing half assed exchange support and I will keep telling people they will probably need to shell out for touchdown if they move to android until they fix it.
Google needs to support ALL ACTIVESYNC SECURITY settings, anything less isn't good enough.
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Agree with you...
thank you for your support. Started to feel alone here!

Corporate sync not working after GB update

Spotty with froyo. Now does not work at all.
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Cant even do it with touchdown. Everything else works great.
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I'm syncing with a hosted Exchange 2010 server (outlook.com). I had to change the server address from m.outlook.com to the actual pod*****.outlook.com address, but after that it's working perfectly with my DX on GB.
We have Exchange 2003. Tried everything.
I lose synch whenever my ROM changes.
The first time, I deleted my corp account, and recreated it...that worked.
The second time, I re-entered just my password and the last field had changed the name, not sure why...but fixed that and it resynched after both of those.
It stopped working for me too, but I haven't tried inputting the actual outlook exchange address. We always used m.mycompanyname.com.
Apparently Motorola knows about the problem. I just did a simple google search on my pop up about not being able to provision for my device. So much for "enhanced activesync" lol:
http://motorola-global-en-usa.custh...id-pro-after-mr2-update-(copy-of-answer-67174)
Still no corporate email or calendar sync. I've nuked phone clean and it still won't update.
Another e/ee here received the OTA update from Verizon and it ruined her corp sync too. So it has nothing to do with root.
I think there is some issue with pulling the certificate.
Corporate Email won't configure OTA GB 2.3
crawcraw said:
Still no corporate email or calendar sync. I've nuked phone clean and it still won't update.
Another e/ee here received the OTA update from Verizon and it ruined her corp sync too. So it has nothing to do with root.
I think there is some issue with pulling the certificate.
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I think you are right about the issue having to do with pulling a certificate.
In my case, first OTA install failed, then Verizon folks had me flash back to 2.2, wiping my existing settings.
After the rollback, I was able to install the OTA to get to 2.3 successfully, but now I am not able to setup corporate sync on the phone. All correct settings gets me an error message saying "Login to the server failed, please try again."
One thing I notice is that on the 2.2 Corporate Sync settings, it asks for:
"domain/username" in one textbox
where on the 2.3 settings page, the username and domain are entered on separate textboxes.
Maybe that has nothing to do with anything, but it was something I noticed.
I'll update if I find anything about this issue.
****update
Call was disconnected with VZ, Moto, and I'm too mad/tired to go through the hassle again. Boo.
Droid X - Activesync issues after GB Update
So this is really strange, and I'm truly frustrated. The Mobile device policy in our Exchange 2007 environment will not allow the Corporate Mail application on our DXs provision with the server... unless we check the Allow Simple Passwords option in the policy itself. Then the device is provisioned properly and email, calendar and contacts sync.
This is not optimal as we have a strict Policy for passwords and using a simple password violates that.
Regards,
Edge
I feel your pain Edge... same for me.. doesn't allow for simple passwords. So now I am receiving the provisioning error. I called Verizon lastnight... they forwarded me to motorola and they said for me to send a document stating the settings my company needs to change.. what a joke. I am furious. I don't want third party software to download email... Although my HTC Eris sucked because of the speed.. the company HTC supported my email. Every time there was an upgrade it continued to work.
still busted. Tried several things with my company's outside tech support.
Exchange 2003. Factory reset of phone (twice). Even pulled the SD card after the second factory reset. I manually added certificates. Tried Touchdown. turned SSL on, turned off.
tried all kinds of domain settings. Tried stuff on server side. Still nothing.
Now I'm getting error messages with Gmail.
SUCCESS!
Our certificate expires in August so the IT guy went ahead and updated it. When turning on account, I left off the domain name and checked SSL. Worked immediately after that. Good luck.
FWIW, i just upgraded to p3droid's rooted GB (performed a full data reset in the process). Setting up my corporate sync was painless (worked first try) and it works flawlessly. Our IT guy is sharp and knows how to configure and maintain our Exchange server with all the latest updates and such. If anyone is having issues with Corporate Sync, I'll bet a dollar that it's a problem with your Exchange Server and not GB.
BBJohnnyT said:
FWIW, i just upgraded to p3droid's rooted GB (performed a full data reset in the process). Setting up my corporate sync was painless (worked first try) and it works flawlessly. Our IT guy is sharp and knows how to configure and maintain our Exchange server with all the latest updates and such. If anyone is having issues with Corporate Sync, I'll bet a dollar that it's a problem with your Exchange Server and not GB.
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Exchange support on any android platform is usually from a mis-maintained Exchange server, but it just seems that motorola is extra messed up with their support. I know how my Exchange server is set up and I still have a hard time getting full functionality out of my DX and my corporate email account. At my work I depend on calender support because it's the main means of communication between our IT staff as to who is going to in the office at what point. As of right now, I'm using my work phone to keep up with work which is... Normal? I dunno, but I just know I'll have to float until I can get my hands on a decent root and ROM for the OTA update. I've tried using P3droid's patched version and out of the six times I've tried it, I've either gotten into a boot loop or I've lost all data connectivity- weird.
Laramie1997 said:
Exchange support on any android platform is usually from a mis-maintained Exchange server, but it just seems that motorola is extra messed up with their support. I know how my Exchange server is set up and I still have a hard time getting full functionality out of my DX and my corporate email account. At my work I depend on calender support because it's the main means of communication between our IT staff as to who is going to in the office at what point. As of right now, I'm using my work phone to keep up with work which is... Normal? I dunno, but I just know I'll have to float until I can get my hands on a decent root and ROM for the OTA update. I've tried using P3droid's patched version and out of the six times I've tried it, I've either gotten into a boot loop or I've lost all data connectivity- weird.
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I had lots of weirdness with GB too when I upgraded (twice) using P3droid's update. I SBFed back to .340 and then did a Factory Data Reset just prior to booting into Clockworkmod's Recovery to do the upgrade. Haven't had one lick of problems since. Give that a try.

ICS Problem with Exchange 2007 accounts

hello friends,
maybe someone of you is able to help, or at least enlighten me about the cause of this:
since i use ICS on my note (about for 2 weeks, starting with stunner) i have REALLY BIG problems with one of my exchange accounts, the one which is running on a hosted exchange 2007 (second account with my corporate exchange 2010 is fine)! so until today i hoped that the "official ICS" for the note won't show this behavior, but now with a total clean install of the today released LPY and therefore OFFICIAL SAMSUNG ICS rom, the problem persists!
description:
95 out of 100 trys to connect to my exchange account fails with a message telling me that there is a security error (if needed i can provide some screenshots) telling me that either my username and/or password is incorrect! this makes it almost impossible even to simply add the account. and, on the rare occasions (which SOMETIMES can be triggered through a connection change between wifi and 3g) when the phone is able to connect (and sync), it stops after a few minutes again with the same error.
i re-added the account numerous times, tried everything which came through my mind (change password, enabled and disabled sec features) and trust me, i know what i'm doing here. i configure exchange accounts since almost 10 years from now!
clues:
there are a few tickets existing on http://code.google.com/p/android regarding this issue, but with different "flavours":
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16992
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=19366
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25315
to sum it up:
google developers are recognizing the problem (it seems to exist since android 3+ to some extent) but are unable to provide a solution until now. it seems to be a problem with an EAS policy refresh, which fails and therefore closes (or does not even open) the connection! a guy suggested to disable these policy refresh in the EX2007 config, but this would only be possible if you are the admin of this server (and i doubt that it would make sense, security-wise, too)!
another theory says this mess is due to implementation errors in the connection layer, which directly affects wifi and 3g connection behavior...
i guess that this problem would now get's more imminent, as this security error wasn't occurring at gingerbread. and now more and more people with smartphones will migrate to ICS!
what do you think?
does anybody else experience this? or am i one of the few unlucky bastards?
regards,
markus
so, is exchange 2007 working for everyone?
this would be important to know for me, because in this case i would have
to blame my exchange provider for wrong EAS settings!
can a few people with an exchange 2007 account confirm that their sync work flawlessly? anyone please?
Just realized my exchange account is not syncing unless I open the client.
My work is running exchange 2003
Never had this issue with imilka ROM weird
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mardos said:
Just realized my exchange account is not syncing unless I open the client.
My work is running exchange 2003
Never had this issue with imilka ROM weird
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This seems to be the case on all TW based roms, no matter if GB or ICS at least for me. It syncs fine with Hotmail service but not with my company's 2003 server so there has to be some incompatibility there. When disabling all syncs and re-enabling them it started syncing. Just had to wait for about 30 minutes to get all info synced.
E: On AOSP based (CM9, AOKP) everything works as it should right from the beginning without the extra hassle.
I'm working properly in Galaxy Note, from KKA to LPY, with Exchange 2007 SP3.
Syncing is correct in my case.
Samsungs version of ICS (or Gingerbread) doesn't communicate with Lotus Notes traveler active sync. Cyanogen 9 (ICS) is working out of the box. In Gingerbread the Traveler App is working but in Samsungs version of ICS the widgets dont work.
after fiddling around this WE i think there would be no other solution as reverting back to GB (which would suck, and therefore is no real option), or to change to a hoster with exchange 2010!
every client i tried shows the same behavior, if i'm able to establish a connection it won't last long till the security error reappears! this renders my account almost useless...
i will update this post if something changes!

[Q] Problem setting up exchange sync?

Just got my N10, and have been trying unsuccessfully to set up the device to sync with my office's exchange server. I am using the same settings that already work with my Galaxy SIII, but I keep getting an error message that it could not connect to the server. Anyone have any ideas?
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Update; I spent about 30 minutes with Google tech support - the person helping me was singularly unhelpful. I'm checking IT issues on my end, and will try calling back later this evening to see if there's someone more knowledgeable available.
Nexus 10 Exchange sync issue...
Buck1969 said:
Update; I spent about 30 minutes with Google tech support - the person helping me was singularly unhelpful. I'm checking IT issues on my end, and will try calling back later this evening to see if there's someone more knowledgeable available.
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I had the same problem ... but a bit different ... I can sync all except my inbox... a paid app called Touchdown by nitrodesk works but I'm not happy about having to pay $20 to do what I've been able to do on my phone for over 2 years... This is old tech and should be baseline functionality for any tablet.
Let me know if anyone gives you the real solution
David
Sorry guys, But I don't see how this is Google's fault?
Exchange Mail is Exchange mail.
I'd be leaning on your work's IT staff to figure out why it's not working correctly via Active Sync.
One thing to check, depending on what/how you have yours set up.
My Exchange limits me to 10 mobile devices. Now I know that doesn't sound like much...but once you start testing ROMs, etc., that gets filled up quick.
So check and see if you have a limit on devices, and if so...clear out any old or unneeded devices.
My Mail also asks for Administrator permission. Before it'll sync, I have to drop down a notification and allow it administrator access.
(I can remotely wipe a device if I log into my account via our WebMail interface)
My guess is either too many devices or your naming schema/paths you're using on the tablet.
I had the same sort of problem with my Apple iTurd mini. S3, Nexus 10 and Desire all worked fine, but the iTurd did not. Logged into OWA with my laptop, went into options and then mobile devices and I removed ALL devices from there. Now my S3, N10, desire and iTurd all work.
More than likely an issue atteh exchange end. Some are also set up to only allow x number of deivces.

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