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Hello all, this is my 1st post on these forums. They are great BTW. Anyway I have a question about radio roms. I've read through the wiki and I've read various posts in here about Radio version: 1.40.30.00, so far from what I've seen a lot of people like and recommend this version. So I successfully flashed to the newest retail firmware from AT&T the 04/09/07 release. I love the PDA features of the phone, but voice call/SMS connectivity is craptacular at best.
I recently upgraded from the 8125 and I never had any problems at all with voice call or SMS connectivity on my old phone. Performance wise it feels like the 8525 is a downgrade. I can hardly receive phone calls/texts from my house, and I can't make calls/texts at all. In fact I have to go get on the highway to get any kind of signal. That was never the case in this area before.
Here's my question. Is there perhaps a Radio Rom fix that I have missed, or do you think that I should swap the phone out (I have 15 days left) at the store? I was considering downgrading to a previous firmware version so I could get an earlier Radio Rom, but I don't know if that is a proper solution, or if I can do so without bricking my phone.
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OK, so if I read what you're saying correctly, the original ROM/radio worked fine? I'm guessing the radio version was 1.16.00.00, which you can technically flash independently. There are also several radio versions in between, all of which can be found here.
That said, bear in mind that monkeying with the radio is the riskiest thing you can do in terms of bricking your device (because the CID "lives" there and if it becomes corrupt, you're "bricked"). Normally the advisable thing to do would be to install Hard-SPL to guard against this, but if you think you may have to cash in on your warranty the safest thing to do might be to downgrade the entire ROM to the original as installing anything "non-factory" will void your warranty. Or, since you've done nothing to void your warranty thus far, you could leave it as is, it in to Cingular and complain.
The current factory ROMs can be found here. My guess would be that yours shipped with 1.34.502.1.
Good luck!
Thx for the advice, I just installed Hard SPL and Flashed Radio:1.41.00.10 and the reception seemed a little bit better, but I still have to go out to the highway to do anything. I think I'm going to put one of the old retail roms back on and loose the Hermes. I may get a Cheetah instead, my wife has one of those and her call reception is great. Plus the threaded SMS is a selling point.
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Thx for the advice, I just installed Hard SPL and Flashed Radio:1.41.00.10 and the reception seemed a little bit better, but I still have to go out to the highway to do anything. I think I'm going to put one of the old retail roms back on and loose the Hermes. I may get a Cheetah instead, my wife has one of those and her call reception is great. Plus the threaded SMS is a selling point.
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If you want to give it a go, I had better luck with 1.40 than with 1.41 for Cingular. The 1.40 radio is specifically a Cingular release. You may want to try that one before abandoning the device, although I am not sure any radio will make a monumental difference. Surprising that the difference between the 8125 and 8525 would be that big.
The 1.40 was the one that I had initially. On HTC's site the 4/09/07 firmware shipped with 1.40, and it's the one that I've been using since I got the phone. I don't think that it's the Radio ROM anymore, I think that it's the device in this area. I just don't want to swap it out for a new one and confirm that it is the device in this area. Then I'll be stuck with a $500.00 PDA with no usable phone.
Lol I was shocked 'bout that too... the 8125 was incredible compared to the 8525 reception wise.
From my experience, I have received better battery life, reception and speed with the .23 radio, since upgraded the spl with haykuro's new one, I have been a bit afraid to downgrade the radio on my phone (running Ion as of today, amazing!). I was wondering if I am the only one who experienced this? And yeah, I did search the forums, however, the thread that was previously up could not be continued as it was no longer a valid link (found the google cache of it).
For those that have tried the .23 radio, what build are you using? Also, can the radio affect applications? I know that from my WinMo days it could, and obviously from our experience with the new spl, it can also in here, but what about the .23 radio with 1.5 ROMs?
What are your experiences with the differences in the sapphire (.23) radio and the newer .26I one? If that thread before was locked or removed and that is the reason why the link is no longer valid, I apologize to the mods and you can lock this thread, I just wanted to continue the discussion on this topic, as if we are getting better reception and battery life from a different radio, why take a step back?
-Brandon
I had the radio 23 on my device and the bluetooth in my car doesn't work with the Dream.. I saw the contacts list, I could receive a call, but I was not able to make a call at all... After upgrading to the new radio everithing goes well, and now bluetooth works correctly! so IMHO the new radio is far better than the old one!
Where to download .23 radio? Links on Haykuros site is not working so there might be some trouble with it?
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
I'm looking around and can't find the .23 radio. Do you have a link?
Here ya go uploaded just for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/238547044/Radio_Sapphire_2_22_19_23.zip
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New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
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i'm in an EDGE area -- 26I seems to have increased my battery life.
maybe it does different things on different handsets?!
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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Agreed. .26 always has me switching all the time and it's pretty annoying. Makes the Market a real pain.
I also like .23 A LOT better since it was significantly faster; unfortunately .26I will be required for Hero and it's required for 6.0r1 so I'm stuck with it
It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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Interesting, though it makes a lot of sense, I don't know why I always thought the two were inclusive. Wasn't there something about the new SPL bricking non .26I phones?
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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I'm in Miami and I get 3G, Edge, etc switching all the time as well. Very disappointed in Tmob down here. It's especially bad around Sunset/87th ave area.
Im in Jupiter and I only get edge and wifi..... :/
I am still running original Cupcake. Is it sufficient to use a Goldcard to flash different Radios? Or do I need Root and/or a different SPL?
I have BT issues with original Cupcake Radio .26I, so need a different Radio.
thx
Hi, i have a HD2 unlucked using it with AT&T US. the signal is quite bad, i dont have 3g at all, ive realised the bands dont match up but is there any way to increase signal strength or something. The signal is ridiculous at times where i have no signal at all in my house.
try different radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733
Unless you bought a T9193 (look below the battery cover, is there a "Next G" or "T"?), you won't get 3G.
You might have luck playing with different radios to see if you get better coverage. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=713977 for more info. If you have a TMobile HD2, then you might want to check the other HD2 forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=631
If you have any questions, read up on the Q&A forum either way.
thats why I was asking about best/latest Radio Version for AT&T. Is your Radio Version the same as mine, identified in earlier post about AT&T Radio Version?
I have at&t (but I am using a t9193), I am having good results battery & signal w/ radio 2.12.50.02_2 (link in my sig)
what exactly do i do with these radio roms?
sorry im new to this whole thing and dont know alot. thanks
Arkalos13 said:
what exactly do i do with these radio roms?
sorry im new to this whole thing and dont know alot. thanks
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HSPL from here
grab a radio file from here
follow the steps here
Non-U.S. HD2 are not compatible with TMOUS 3G regardless of the radio Rom being used. A more current ROM may provide a better basic 2G/GPRS signal.
I searched through the threads and really couldn't get a definitive answer I know a lot of people will say there isn't really any best radio just one that is best for you. With that said is the anyone in from this thread in the USA specifically in the Virginia Area more specifically in the Hampton Roads / Williamsburg area running TyphooN CyanogenMod 7 RC1+ v2.4.4 on their HD2?
Currently I am running this build on my HD2 with radio 2.15 but everyone who I talk to tells me I sound like I'm talking like I'm on speaker, in the bathroom, hallway, etc.
With that said anyone else running this Build with a different radio in this area with better experience?
Thanks to all who answer
try a 2.12 radio. in my experience anything before 2.12 doesnt work good at all. 2.12.50.02 seemed to work ok for me, but i still went back to 2.15.
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try a 2.12 radio. in my experience anything before 2.12 doesnt work good at all. 2.12.50.02 seemed to work ok for me, but i still went back to 2.15.
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Ya I just put on 2.12 lets see what happens I guess
2.12 fixed the problem I called one of my buddies who was the first one to say he you sound like your on speaker or in a bathroom or whatever and now he says it sounds like a regular call, plus on 2.15 I was getting like two bars three tops now I'm getting full bars to maybe one less then full at all times.
Thanks
I have just got a Used Tmobile Unlocked HD2 today it is running Android but don't know if its from SD Card or from the internal memory.
But I want dual boot WM7.5 (Mango) with the Android.
No Idea how to do and which HSPL, Radio & Rom Should I choose for both Android & WM 7.5 ( Mango)
Just need a suggestion and if there is any link, so that I can get all the info as newbie, it will be really helpful for me....
Thank....s in advance
P.S I have not found any thread for my ans. & that's the reason I have create a new thread, If I have done any mistake sorry for that.
which HSPL, & Radio
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When you say t mobile, do you mean t mo USA? Only the USA version (the "tmous") is different.
Always and only 2.08.hspl for android and wp7.
Radio, there are two families of radios, 2.xx.51.x and 2.xx.50.x,, (shortened to ..50.. and ..51.. ) take special note of the 50 and 51. For magldr, android, wp7 you MUST have a ..50.. radio, and the 2.xx.50 xx must be higher than 06.
To keep it simple, if you DO have a tmous, the radio will already work. (..50.. radios are tmous radios)
If you have a regular hd2 (all white hard key lights) then go flash 2.15.50 radio.
If you do have a tmous NEVER EVER flash a ..51.. radio, or a non tmous stock winmo rom, or ..50.. radios lower than 2.06.50, because they will always brick tmous phones.
Yes it is Tmob USA version
Its different??
Thank you for your reply Sir
Can you please suggest me a hspl & radio for my tmous, I have found HSPL4 from your signature & the radio from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
that link (1st radio of that link) i.e Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14**: MultiUpload
Can I use those or it will brick??
Thank you again
use hspl4 to set 2.08.hspl (android / wp7 will ONLY work with 2.08.hspl) and yes that radio is fine.
samsamuel said:
use hspl4 to set 2.08.hspl (android / wp7 will ONLY work with 2.08.hspl) and yes that radio is fine.
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Thank you Very Much
Returned the phone today & now waiting for money back from seller, there was an issue related network signal. I have tried 2 sim card but no signal was there. Don't know what was the problem actually.
SOHOM said:
Returned the phone today & now waiting for money back from seller, there was an issue related network signal. I have tried 2 sim card but no signal was there. Don't know what was the problem actually.
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either the phone was locked to any service provider or it has signal hardware issues !!
anyways !! you're getting ur money back !! !!
check and buy a device this time !!
good luck....
SOHOM said:
Returned the phone today & now waiting for money back from seller, there was an issue related network signal. I have tried 2 sim card but no signal was there. Don't know what was the problem actually.
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Maybe it needs to network unlocked. Did you have an unlock code?
or it could be hardware related:
"Probable Hardware Fix For HD2 Poor Signal (Confirmed):"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1190180
I got my money back )))
and another Tmous is coming day after tomorrow..... but now its new ( and unlocked) ))))))))))))))))))
I can't say how happy I am.
oucha said:
Maybe it needs to network unlocked. Did you have an unlock code?
or it could be hardware related:
"Probable Hardware Fix For HD2 Poor Signal (Confirmed):"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1190180
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It was unlocked.
Seem to me had hardware problems.
aaki_rocker said:
either the phone was locked to any service provider or it has signal hardware issues !!
anyways !! you're getting ur money back !! !!
check and buy a device this time !!
good luck....
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Got my money back 100%. I am happy now
I think phone has hardware problem, because I was getting network signal but 1bar and some time it goes off, where as my N8 is getting full signals in my room also.
Whatever be.....
I ma getting new unlocked Tmous day after tomorrow
Where did you buy it and how much it cost (new one) ?
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Where did you buy it and how much it cost (new one) ?
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Hi,
I am from India and I have friend in US he is sending me this phone I really don't know from where he got new , you can get new from ebay also its cheaper thn mine, but I can't trust ebayer any more that's the reason I bought from local US market by my friend.
Good Luck
SOHOM said:
Got my money back 100%. I am happy now
I think phone has hardware problem, because I was getting network signal but 1bar and some time it goes off, where as my N8 is getting full signals in my room also.
Whatever be.....
I ma getting new unlocked Tmous day after tomorrow
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not trying to disappoint you, but hd2 got lower signal then other phones..
in my house i get at least 2 bar less then iphone unlocked for t-mobile and htc aria unlocked for t-mobile...
i tryed wm 6.5 several....mango 7.5.....androids from sd from nand....sense not sense....clk and mgdlr...doesn't matter still low compare to other phones...still i love it its like old car you want to use on the weekend....
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not trying to disappoint you, but hd2 got lower signal then other phones..
in my house i get at least 2 bar less then iphone unlocked for t-mobile and htc aria unlocked for t-mobile...
i tryed wm 6.5 several....mango 7.5.....androids from sd from nand....sense not sense....clk and mgdlr...doesn't matter still low compare to other phones...still i love it its like old car you want to use on the weekend....
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Thanks...
But let me tell you that now my HD2 is working like charm, no issues at all...
and I am really happy to be a HD2 Owner .
I have a another question here...
I flasher that 6.5 os at the day 1.
Using Mango Pdaimatejam ROM 8107 v7.2
and ICS from SD
But somehow I found there is two types of radio...
1. Hardware Radio.
2. Software radio.
As I came to know Radio version ....51.... will brick the Tmous, and that's why we have to flash with ....50.... radios. And I think this is the Hardware Radio Part... If I am wrong please let me know.
But...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21988711&postcount=1876
Here Dxdy has given different types of Hardware as well as Software radio link along with latest rom.
Now please tell me If I use
Hardware Radio= Radio_Leo_2.15.50.14.
And Software Radio radio =5.51
Will this combination brick my TMOUS HD2??
Thanks in advance