From my experience, I have received better battery life, reception and speed with the .23 radio, since upgraded the spl with haykuro's new one, I have been a bit afraid to downgrade the radio on my phone (running Ion as of today, amazing!). I was wondering if I am the only one who experienced this? And yeah, I did search the forums, however, the thread that was previously up could not be continued as it was no longer a valid link (found the google cache of it).
For those that have tried the .23 radio, what build are you using? Also, can the radio affect applications? I know that from my WinMo days it could, and obviously from our experience with the new spl, it can also in here, but what about the .23 radio with 1.5 ROMs?
What are your experiences with the differences in the sapphire (.23) radio and the newer .26I one? If that thread before was locked or removed and that is the reason why the link is no longer valid, I apologize to the mods and you can lock this thread, I just wanted to continue the discussion on this topic, as if we are getting better reception and battery life from a different radio, why take a step back?
-Brandon
I had the radio 23 on my device and the bluetooth in my car doesn't work with the Dream.. I saw the contacts list, I could receive a call, but I was not able to make a call at all... After upgrading to the new radio everithing goes well, and now bluetooth works correctly! so IMHO the new radio is far better than the old one!
Where to download .23 radio? Links on Haykuros site is not working so there might be some trouble with it?
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
I'm looking around and can't find the .23 radio. Do you have a link?
Here ya go uploaded just for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/238547044/Radio_Sapphire_2_22_19_23.zip
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New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
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i'm in an EDGE area -- 26I seems to have increased my battery life.
maybe it does different things on different handsets?!
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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Agreed. .26 always has me switching all the time and it's pretty annoying. Makes the Market a real pain.
I also like .23 A LOT better since it was significantly faster; unfortunately .26I will be required for Hero and it's required for 6.0r1 so I'm stuck with it
It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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Interesting, though it makes a lot of sense, I don't know why I always thought the two were inclusive. Wasn't there something about the new SPL bricking non .26I phones?
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With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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I'm in Miami and I get 3G, Edge, etc switching all the time as well. Very disappointed in Tmob down here. It's especially bad around Sunset/87th ave area.
Im in Jupiter and I only get edge and wifi..... :/
I am still running original Cupcake. Is it sufficient to use a Goldcard to flash different Radios? Or do I need Root and/or a different SPL?
I have BT issues with original Cupcake Radio .26I, so need a different Radio.
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What radio would you recommend me flashing when using CyanogenMod Rom..Anyone have any ideas or input
I would recommend you try all 3 radios and see what one works best for you. For me the latest one is the best, but i still have some problems with 3G connection. The latest also gives me 3G in areas i never got 3G before too. I compared this with my G1 seating next to my N1. My G1 would have 100% all bars in 3G where my N1 would have about 1 to 2 bars less. Over all the latest radio has been the best. Only thing is is that for some ppl the older radios work better. You just need to try out all 3 and see what one works best for you.
It might also depend on where you are. I am in Australia, the original radio was crap, it cut out 3g and drained my battery to all hell in the process. I updated to ERE27, and i have no problems at all, and no desire to move to ERE36B, in case it is not as good. 3g never cuts out, i am in an office with concrete walls and still have 4 bars. try ERE27, if that doesn't satisfy you, then by all means move to ERE36B, but it is not necessary in all cases.
I would recommend searching and perhaps reading any of the other threads titled "Radio".
Hi,
This weekend I upgraded my CDMA Hero to DamageControl. Let me say.. WOW.. it is great....
there are a few minor issues..
-gallery landscape issues
-vvm... but Google Voice is great!
-no Sprint TV
-upgrade Radio???
I am here to ask.. should I upgrade the Radio?
did some research and I am getting mixed feeling on this. Since in the past, only real way to brick your phone is to mess with the radio... and all the others that have major issues with the new Radio.
I am having cold feet about this!!
I can see that I am low in signal strength. and my standby time/ 50% of the time my phone is looking for coverage. My battery is not as good as it was before my new 2.1 ROM.
It looks like I should get the 2.41.04.02.(03) version
NOT the (02) version. RIGHT?
Any feedback??
Check this out about 2.1 and poor battery life.
androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/52761-those-worse-battery-life-fresh-2-0b-might-work-1-1-too.html
subscribed
Im in for other's opinions on this. I already upgraded the radio but cant seem to be able to update PRL and signal icon has low bars all the time, even if my wife's Hero has all the bars.
Subscribed.
zmk76 said:
Check this out about 2.1 and poor battery life.
androidforums.com/sprint-htc-hero/52761-those-worse-battery-life-fresh-2-0b-might-work-1-1-too.html
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Yeah.. I have read that.. and mine was already on CDMA auto PRL.... and 50%
I dont want to be on CDMA only... because.. I think that it will cause lower connectivity.
Dan330 said:
Yeah.. I have read that.. and mine was already on CDMA auto PRL.... and 50%
I dont want to be on CDMA only... because.. I think that it will cause lower connectivity.
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Our phones can only use CDMA so i am pretty sure it will not effect connectivity.... unless i am missing something.
You want it set to CDMA only, otherwise you get problems
i won't upgrade my radio until sprint releases one...too easy to brick your phone.
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Our phones can only use CDMA so i am pretty sure it will not effect connectivity.... unless i am missing something.
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PRL.. is for roaming...
that is what I have read.
I have upgraded the radio. I set mine to CDMA only and I was only able to connect at 1X instead of EV after that. I am not sure what is going on with it.
I installed the radio right after upgrading to fresh 2.0b. My phone has been doing just fine since. I didn't know at the time that it could brick my phone. Glad it didn't. I am happy with the radio.
I flashed this to my Eris and it seems to have faster data speeds and better reception.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657896
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
gohamstergo said:
i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio just because its available for other phones. proceed at your own risk everyone...his boost could easily be coincidence. youre not gonna get that much change.
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As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
I recommend against flashing non-Eris specific radios.
Do it at your own risk.
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This radio works fine on the Eris. Still, use caution when flashing it and if your phone explodes don't spam the dev forum asking for help.
No more not being able to make/receive calls as of yet. Also it seems my wifi tether works now but may have been the new ivan rom that came out.
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It COULD brick your phone... I told myself I would never flash radio images when I gained root. I'm fine with roms and themes thank you very much.
kyrumo71 said:
As long as its CDMA its good.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650121
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Yeah, that's not true dude. Flashing an incorrect radio update CAN completely brick your phone. Flashing a radio update updates your SPL. If the SPL isn't compatible with your phone/kernel, it could very well completely ruin your phone beyond recoverable.
You're lucky, but for future reference, it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio update except one that's been tested and working with your phone and kernel.
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i definitely wouldn't go flashing any 'ole radio
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GrdLock said:
it's a really bad idea to go flashing any ol' radio
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so awesome
This is why I felt comfortable with flashing the radio...
The ONLY reason I flashed this radio is due to the fact that others did this with no bad side effects (so far). Also, toastcfh has tested other heroc radios on an Eris with no bad side effects (so far) as well as done some good research for us by flashing the radios and seems to be quite knowledgeable when it comes to them.
I'm not authorizing that you should go flashing "any 'ol radio" but heroc and desirec radios seem to be created with the intention of being used on Sprint and Verizon according to research by toastcfh.
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now for the question about why some radios say heroc instead of eris...
the heroc radio are just that... heroc radios from sprint. its a cdma radio so it works the same as verizon radio. dont believe me?! do a strings | grep on all the radios and u will see they are all using both sprint and verizon logins and such. also as right now im running the latest radio which is the heroc one. everything works fine and its the one ive had best results with on both my Sprint Hero and my wifes Verizon Eris. although others may find better results with other versions.
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Just make sure you know that just because it worked for someone else doesn't mean you won't find that underlying control signal some day.
sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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sprint uses sim cards right? the reason im askin is cuz for the hell of it i tried this radio and kept gettin no sim card messege lol i just did a restore . my stupid quesion is , the radio went back to the way it was right? im not gettin the error any more so i guess that answers my question , or could it have did other damage ? thanx for any help
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No, only GSM carriers use SIM cards. Sprint is CDMA.
then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
tazzpatriot said:
then thats wierd , i kept seeing that messege , i use the nexus lock and when it woke from sleep the error was there until i unlocked it
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I believe that was/is a bug with the nexus lock mod. I remember when lwp mod first came out I tried it and noticed the sim card message. I have not gone back to that since so I can't be 100% sure.
well whatever it was it went away after i did a restore so alls good
Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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Is anyone experiencing any issues with this one, I have flashed this radio and my 3G signal is not as good as it used to be.
I have 2 Eris' one stock (baseband 2.32.40.11.09) and one rooted with 2.42.00.03.10. The stock gets 4 3G bars with -70dBm while the rooted Eris gets 2 or less bars with -52 dBm.
From what I'm seeing, 3G speed is also suffering on the Eris with the newer baseband. Can anyone make sense of this?
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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FWIW, -52dBm is much better than -70dBm.
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yeah that's what doesn't make sense to me. the rooted phone says it has a better signal strength, but I'm only getting 2 3G bars (at most!).
I would like to test it but I am unable to find the original 2.32.40.11.09 radio image.
@above
metering has changed in more recent radios. aka bars vs signal strength is different.
soooo is this a yes or no go for flashing?
I tried this out, no noticeable difference in signal strength or speed where I am. Flashed it back to the newest ERIS radio...
I updated my radio earlier today to 2.42.00.03.10 and have PRL 60663. I am seeing a significant increase in battery life. Is anyone else seeing this or is it just my imagination? I'm running the new DamageControl 2.06 ROM.
I am running under the same conditions and have definitely seen better battery life.
I have seen better battery life with this radio too.
Also...I more than doubled my battery life by going into settings>Wireless and Networks>Mobile Network Settings> and UNCHECK "enable always-on mobile..."
Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
The only thing is that with enable always-on mobile unchecked, your phone only updates data when the screen is on, which means that it will only fetch emails/gmails when you turn the screen on. If it's idle, you won't get your gmail, but if the screen is on (for any reason)...then it'll fetch and update all your data. For me it's worth it to get my gmails a little later and more than doubling my battery life.
Hope this helps someone
I have definitely seen an increase in battery life with this new Radio.
I'm new to Radios... Since this new radio seems good, how do I go about flashing it? Is it a zip file like if I were doing a rom?
danman132x said:
I'm new to Radios... Since this new radio seems good, how do I go about flashing it? Is it a zip file like if I were doing a rom?
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How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
flipzmode said:
How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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Thanks! My baseband is still 1.04.01.09.21
Haven't had any battery issues, but an update should be well worth it.
flipzmode said:
How To: Flash a Radio Update Sprint HTC Hero
Download: Radio Baseband 2.42.00.03.10 for Sprint CDMA Hero
That should be everything you need. Ask away if you have any questions.
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hey flipz figured i would try to catch you wjile your on and before you dissappear like zorro have you found any concrete facts upon the location variable to this radio...i see nothing but positive things about it although i dont see the positive effects...im still go back to the eris radio for fresh 2.0b2 and works the best for me...im also in northwest ohio but i figured the radio things had to be like a east coast west coast thing...any insight?
aauussttiinn88 said:
hey flipz figured i would try to catch you wjile your on and before you dissappear like zorro have you found any concrete facts upon the location variable to this radio...i see nothing but positive things about it although i dont see the positive effects...im still go back to the eris radio for fresh 2.0b2 and works the best for me...im also in northwest ohio but i figured the radio things had to be like a east coast west coast thing...any insight?
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In theory they are designed to work the same everywhere. Once an update rolls out it will only be one radio, just the same as our 1.5 one was. However without a doubt, some seem to work better for people based on their area and it's always been that way on every phone. Unfortunately there is no concrete way to know which one will work better for people. I suppose it just depends on what hardware they are using in the towers around you. But I'm not a mobile network engineer so I'm honestly not 100% sure.
flipzmode said:
In theory they are designed to work the same everywhere. Once an update rolls out it will only be one radio, just the same as our 1.5 one was. However without a doubt, some seem to work better for people based on their area and it's always been that way on every phone. Unfortunately there is no concrete way to know which one will work better for people. I suppose it just depends on what hardware they are using in the towers around you. But I'm not a mobile network engineer so I'm honestly not 100% sure.
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yea thats what i thought..because even when i ran 1.1 with the stock radio @ work i would never get a 3g sig...when i moved up to that 2.1 eris leak on got that new radio i got a substancially better at signal and greatly improved my battery and i couldnt of been happier...so when i saw the new new radio i was like wow can it even get better??? but then it was same as stock radio basically i never got a 3g sig..and i was scared about this first since the radio was i geuss for "verizon" and im now not runing the eris leak but it works great...all my co-workers on verizon always had better service than me...but ever since the eris radio i get just as much service as them btw flipz cant "flippin" wait to get 2.1 support on the kitchen!
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i was scared about this first since the radio was i geuss for "verizon"
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Yea, on my touch pro I used to use a telus radio on Sprint because it gave me the best signal and speed. It wasn't the newest version or even made for Sprint, but it's what worked for me in my city!
ive seen a great improvement with this radio on 2.0d. they seem to have tweaked the bars b/c now im at 4-6 whereas previously id be 2-4, though the dbm is right around the same as always at home. i am, however, getting through the day with 50% battery left whereas before i would be 20% or less
Improved Battery and Radio performance in NYC. THANKS
Wait flipz... so you're saying we could use Verizon radios on our phones if we live in an area where Verizon gets excellent signal everywhere, and then our phone (on Sprint) would get signal like a Verizon phone?
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Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
i don't know how you can say that you get more battery life with this tweak. In my nexus righ next to the box where you can chek this option, has the following saying: "uses more battery"... is to you to think about.
Sent from my Nexus One using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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mrinehart93 said:
Wait flipz... so you're saying we could use Verizon radios on our phones if we live in an area where Verizon gets excellent signal everywhere, and then our phone (on Sprint) would get signal like a Verizon phone?
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It worked for WinMO. I used to use a Telus radio on my diamond. But I'm not sure I'd mess with flashing other vendor's radios on your hero. TECHNICALLY it should work. But I wouldn't want to be the test case.
new radio
i just downloaded this radio to see what all the fuss was about, and in my room it dropped my signal, now it keeps going back and forth to 1x now just over and over, im using the new damage rom, you guys think if i change to the newest flipz maybe it would be different. i know this sounds strange but i do feel like with certain roms i get better signal in my home, cause i tried the previous damage roms and all the previous flipz and for some reason i always get better signal in my home with the flipz roms! im just a confused soul.......
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Then I went into Settings>Location> Uncheck "Use wireless Networks", and Check "Use GPS".
With these settings and GPS on, I used my phone pretty heavily for 15 hours and had 54% battery life when I went to bed.
i don't know how you can say that you get more battery life with this tweak. In my nexus righ next to the box where you can chek this option, has the following saying: "uses more battery"... is to you to think about.
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That's why I'm saying to uncheck it. Cuz the option to have it checked uses more battery. Read it again.
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Would this Radio be compatible with Cyanogen 6.1 froyo extremely blue rom? its 2.2.1 android.
Embargho101 said:
Would this Radio be compatible with Cyanogen 6.1 froyo extremely blue rom? its 2.2.1 android.
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This thread is old. There are newer radios out.
Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Froyo-on-Hero action here!
So I've been having issues where my 3G connection would sometime be at a 3 bar, go down to a 1 bar or a 2 bar and then it would switch to the EDGE network and then sometimes the "G" network.
Is this supposed to happen?
Also if anyone near the Mt. Prospect area has the same issues it'd be nice to know that.
Try experimenting with different radios. Check the radio thread in this section if you're not sure on how to do that.
All right, found the thread, also how do I check what radio I currently have?
Settings tab, About Phone (all the way at the bottom), Software Info.
Also, make sure you read about which radios are compatible with your phone on the radio thread. Flashing an incompatible radio is probably the most common way to brick your phone.
Found it, and should I get a higher radio or a lower radio?
Also any thread for how to install radios and what I should watch out for?
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
That thread will guide you through your first ROM/Radio flash. They both use the same method. You don't have to change your ROM to change your Radio. Just read carefully first, and make sure you are using a T-Mo US HD2 compatible radio:
X.XX.50.XX (as long as it's 2.07.XX and up)
Edit: I'm assuming you have a TMOUS HD2
One last thing, will changing my radio void any warranty I have on the phone?
Not sure, but probably. You can always change it back to the one that came with your phone before you take it back.
How is your radio working so far?
Do you have 4 bars on 3G all the time?
SecrtAgentMan said:
How is your radio working so far?
Do you have 4 bars on 3G all the time?
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At my job, I do. At my house I get two bars if I leave the phone flat on a table. I'm experimenting with the newest 2.12 radio. So far the reception seems to be the same, but it usually takes a day or two for the signal to "settle"...if the battery usage is better I might keep it.
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Also if anyone near the Mt. Prospect area has the same issues it'd be nice to know that.
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Does this happen everywhere or just at home? You might just be in a bad or borderline area. Try going to www.tmobiletowers.com to get an indication .
This is only at my house, haven't really tried it outside, but I can get a really good connection when it's about 2 AM.
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Does this happen everywhere or just at home? You might just be in a bad or borderline area. Try going to www.tmobiletowers.com to get an indication .
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I just checked the map and there seems to be one within about 5 minutes from my house (driving)
I got a Unlocked T mobile HD2
& am useing it on Att & am not getting 3g only E
Is there a Rom I can flash to & get Att 3g working
Thank you
ilordvader said:
I got a Unlocked T mobile HD2
& am useing it on Att & am not getting 3g only E
Is there a Rom I can flash to & get Att 3g working
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Short answer: definitely not.
Longer answer: poke around here and find the other threads dedicated to this topic.