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From my experience, I have received better battery life, reception and speed with the .23 radio, since upgraded the spl with haykuro's new one, I have been a bit afraid to downgrade the radio on my phone (running Ion as of today, amazing!). I was wondering if I am the only one who experienced this? And yeah, I did search the forums, however, the thread that was previously up could not be continued as it was no longer a valid link (found the google cache of it).
For those that have tried the .23 radio, what build are you using? Also, can the radio affect applications? I know that from my WinMo days it could, and obviously from our experience with the new spl, it can also in here, but what about the .23 radio with 1.5 ROMs?
What are your experiences with the differences in the sapphire (.23) radio and the newer .26I one? If that thread before was locked or removed and that is the reason why the link is no longer valid, I apologize to the mods and you can lock this thread, I just wanted to continue the discussion on this topic, as if we are getting better reception and battery life from a different radio, why take a step back?
-Brandon
I had the radio 23 on my device and the bluetooth in my car doesn't work with the Dream.. I saw the contacts list, I could receive a call, but I was not able to make a call at all... After upgrading to the new radio everithing goes well, and now bluetooth works correctly! so IMHO the new radio is far better than the old one!
Where to download .23 radio? Links on Haykuros site is not working so there might be some trouble with it?
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
I'm looking around and can't find the .23 radio. Do you have a link?
Here ya go uploaded just for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/238547044/Radio_Sapphire_2_22_19_23.zip
NexVision said:
New radio is great if your in a 3g area I think those of us in EDGE can agree it kills battery very fast I have gone back to .23 radio as I get much better battery life in my EDGE are.
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i'm in an EDGE area -- 26I seems to have increased my battery life.
maybe it does different things on different handsets?!
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
xavier6303 said:
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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Agreed. .26 always has me switching all the time and it's pretty annoying. Makes the Market a real pain.
I also like .23 A LOT better since it was significantly faster; unfortunately .26I will be required for Hero and it's required for 6.0r1 so I'm stuck with it
It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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It maybe required for hero but I doubt it. It is not in anyway require for 6.01 as I was using 6.01 and went back to 5.02 and im still using older radio.
Based on what I know about radios from PPC side a radio will never be requirement for rom SPL is a whole nother story and radio maybe required to flash certain SPL. Rom should not require certain radio though.
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Interesting, though it makes a lot of sense, I don't know why I always thought the two were inclusive. Wasn't there something about the new SPL bricking non .26I phones?
xavier6303 said:
With .23, I was always in 3G but my wifi wont work with .23. With .26, I am always switching back and forth between 3G, edge, and GPRS but wifi works fine. I have both radios on my sd and flash between the two frequently just because I'm not sure which one I like better.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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i used to live in RI, and the new radio was great. I has 3g all the time. i moved to miami last week, and all day i go from 3g-edge-gprs. i called t mo and they said there's nothing they can do.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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Where in Miami? I get 3G 90% of the time all over Miami (Downtown, Coral Gables, Kendall, West Kendall, South Miami). My only EDGE areas are a little zone between Brickel and Little Havana / Coconut Grove.
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I'm in Miami and I get 3G, Edge, etc switching all the time as well. Very disappointed in Tmob down here. It's especially bad around Sunset/87th ave area.
Im in Jupiter and I only get edge and wifi..... :/
I am still running original Cupcake. Is it sufficient to use a Goldcard to flash different Radios? Or do I need Root and/or a different SPL?
I have BT issues with original Cupcake Radio .26I, so need a different Radio.
thx
i was wondering what is the radio in the sprint in the ruu???
i want to try it out since it was released by sprint. i find the others have a big battery drain compared to the stock rom...
i don't want to ruu my phone so i was wondering if someone has the zip file for it????
i'm in a area where i get service no where so thats where my battery life goes to most of the time.
http://geekfor.me/category/radio/
Each radio works differently in different areas. The newest one seems to be the best (that's the one that I'm using). You just have to try them and find which works best for you.
Not sure of the latest...buy fyi, all radios that have been posted (except one from the Desire) came from Sprint. Best to try each one till you get the bast signal.
apr 4th or 11th???
i completely understand that each person will have different experiences with different radios but i found the stock to be the best.
i know there was a verizon one but it was older then the one before that release i don't remember the numbers???
i keep trying different radio but they are all the same to me in terms of single strength... (all still much better then my pre)
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apr 4th or 11th???
i completely understand that each person will have different experiences with different radios but i found the stock to be the best.
i know there was a verizon one but it was older then the one before that release i don't remember the numbers???
i keep trying different radio but they are all the same to me in terms of single strength... (all still much better then my pre)
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Huh... after checking my baseband, I guess I'm using the April 4th 2.42.00.03.10 version. I'm not sure which one is the one that Flipz claims is better than the others, but 2.42.00.03.10 is working great for me. I noticed a massive battery length increase after installing.
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
dondadah88 said:
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
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Just decide for yourself what kind of experience you are expecting and let the placebo effect take care of the rest.
dondadah88 said:
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
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I live about a block from a Sprint tower... So, don't take my word for it. I get full bars everywhere I go, except in my basement - and even then, I get pretty good service. I haven't tested many other places.
But, as Sawawa said, you just have to test it yourself. This radio was my third before I decided I liked what I had.
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I live about a block from a Sprint tower...
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well im jealous.
one other thing, why not just say where you are and see if anybody lives in the same general area? might get lucky and narrow it down as to what radio to use.
i am as well. lol.
i flashed to this radio and the signal is better. i'm using right now a rom that has 4 bars(ice) and i don't have any bars. but with this a bar and sometimes 2 pops up.
i have to check the battery life in the morning to see whats up. that's usually the problem with the new radio compared to the rest. the battery life is bad compared to the stock...
Anyone in the DC area recommend an updated radio? I'm still on stock, and battery life is.....not so hot when I'm using the 3g radio.
I'm terrified to do radio flashes, but if someone can say whether they have a better radio for this area, I'll be willing to give it a try, after checking it 10 times to make sure it is a CDMA radio! LOL.
Thanks in advance.
I used the newest one from Fresh and then I went to one that is a bit older, but is based off of Verizon. It is simply the best! Here is the link http://geekfor.me/radio/baseband-232401109/
I also recomend using Freshs Roms, they are amazing and have great battery life!
So I've been having issues where my 3G connection would sometime be at a 3 bar, go down to a 1 bar or a 2 bar and then it would switch to the EDGE network and then sometimes the "G" network.
Is this supposed to happen?
Also if anyone near the Mt. Prospect area has the same issues it'd be nice to know that.
Try experimenting with different radios. Check the radio thread in this section if you're not sure on how to do that.
All right, found the thread, also how do I check what radio I currently have?
Settings tab, About Phone (all the way at the bottom), Software Info.
Also, make sure you read about which radios are compatible with your phone on the radio thread. Flashing an incompatible radio is probably the most common way to brick your phone.
Found it, and should I get a higher radio or a lower radio?
Also any thread for how to install radios and what I should watch out for?
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
That thread will guide you through your first ROM/Radio flash. They both use the same method. You don't have to change your ROM to change your Radio. Just read carefully first, and make sure you are using a T-Mo US HD2 compatible radio:
X.XX.50.XX (as long as it's 2.07.XX and up)
Edit: I'm assuming you have a TMOUS HD2
One last thing, will changing my radio void any warranty I have on the phone?
Not sure, but probably. You can always change it back to the one that came with your phone before you take it back.
How is your radio working so far?
Do you have 4 bars on 3G all the time?
SecrtAgentMan said:
How is your radio working so far?
Do you have 4 bars on 3G all the time?
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At my job, I do. At my house I get two bars if I leave the phone flat on a table. I'm experimenting with the newest 2.12 radio. So far the reception seems to be the same, but it usually takes a day or two for the signal to "settle"...if the battery usage is better I might keep it.
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Also if anyone near the Mt. Prospect area has the same issues it'd be nice to know that.
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Does this happen everywhere or just at home? You might just be in a bad or borderline area. Try going to www.tmobiletowers.com to get an indication .
This is only at my house, haven't really tried it outside, but I can get a really good connection when it's about 2 AM.
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Does this happen everywhere or just at home? You might just be in a bad or borderline area. Try going to www.tmobiletowers.com to get an indication .
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I just checked the map and there seems to be one within about 5 minutes from my house (driving)
I got a Unlocked T mobile HD2
& am useing it on Att & am not getting 3g only E
Is there a Rom I can flash to & get Att 3g working
Thank you
ilordvader said:
I got a Unlocked T mobile HD2
& am useing it on Att & am not getting 3g only E
Is there a Rom I can flash to & get Att 3g working
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Short answer: definitely not.
Longer answer: poke around here and find the other threads dedicated to this topic.
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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I would also like some info on this. Anyone knowledgable in this area?
I don't know the first thing about radios....please enlighten us.
I tried all three with the phone in the same location. I did two tests with speed test and i watched the signal in dbs. I determined that based on my location (Tampa) the 7.28 worked the best in my location. Just my $0.02.
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Check out the Radio Threads
FWIW, there are at lease two very good threads devoted to radios.
Many opinions and much anecdotal evidence is found in them - they are worth a studious look.
Read the entire threads.
Why? experiences by radio vary widely based on geography, ROM, PRL, and a host of other things.
I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
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I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
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Exactly, all those conflicting words to describe the exact same firmware on the exact same hardware, and often the same ROM. Flashing radio firmware is probably the riskiest thing you can do to the Inc. A corrupt ROM without a backup, you loose your apps and contacts. Too bad. A corrupt or mistake with firmware, and the phone will never ever power on again. Period.
Scary stuff.
In my area, 11.19 is the best.
It really just depends.
Just try them all out for a few days each and see which one you like best.
In my area 7.28 works the best. I had incredibly slow 3g with the other radios. Just install one and experiment with it people get mixed results
Results may vary........
Been running 7.28. Haven't felt the need to risk changing it especially with all the conflicting advice.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
Grrr
I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
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Although you are obviously correct, it really shouldn't be that way. We are all using the same radio hardware. If certain radio firmware causes my radio to connect better to one verizon tower and worse to another verizon tower, that indicates a problem with verizon somewhere. A properly built radio+firmware should connect as good as possible to any tower.
It seems that generally people have better GPS connection with the newer firmwares... but GPS does not connect to verizon towers.
Perhaps some of the verizon towers need updated firmware.
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I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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Same here.
Also, as a test for 7.xx and 11.19:
My mom and brother both have DIncs. Theirs are the SLCD and the 7.xx radio, mine is AMOLED and 11.19 radio. I open up the setting to look at signal strength, and mine (11.19) is always highest.
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Also, 11.19 tends to read the actual signal strength more efficiently that the others, i.e. it changes from 3G to 1x when in weak service, something the other 2 radios are much slower to do.
In my area 7.28 has been the best. I noticed large decreases in signal strength when using gps with 11.19.
Overall, I did not notice much difference between the three, but I know that 7.28 works and it eliminates a variable when troubleshooting.
Im in WI and 11.19 is the way to go in my area. Went from -95 db with the stock radio to -60 with 11.19. It also improved my battery life and 3G speed.