Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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I would also like some info on this. Anyone knowledgable in this area?
I don't know the first thing about radios....please enlighten us.
I tried all three with the phone in the same location. I did two tests with speed test and i watched the signal in dbs. I determined that based on my location (Tampa) the 7.28 worked the best in my location. Just my $0.02.
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Check out the Radio Threads
FWIW, there are at lease two very good threads devoted to radios.
Many opinions and much anecdotal evidence is found in them - they are worth a studious look.
Read the entire threads.
Why? experiences by radio vary widely based on geography, ROM, PRL, and a host of other things.
I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
POQbum said:
I'd say bottom line, there is not a noticeable difference to even bother thinking about it.
Spend hours reading through, I've read a lot (entire threads) and tried them. Some people say GPS finds quicker, some say slower, some say better signal, worse, faster, same, blah blah
You'll hear so much if you read everything, but there is not a significant number going in one direction.
The 7.28 does just dandy.
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Exactly, all those conflicting words to describe the exact same firmware on the exact same hardware, and often the same ROM. Flashing radio firmware is probably the riskiest thing you can do to the Inc. A corrupt ROM without a backup, you loose your apps and contacts. Too bad. A corrupt or mistake with firmware, and the phone will never ever power on again. Period.
Scary stuff.
In my area, 11.19 is the best.
It really just depends.
Just try them all out for a few days each and see which one you like best.
In my area 7.28 works the best. I had incredibly slow 3g with the other radios. Just install one and experiment with it people get mixed results
Results may vary........
Been running 7.28. Haven't felt the need to risk changing it especially with all the conflicting advice.
userjf said:
Regarding the Incredible Radio Firmware 2.15, has anyone used all of these enough to know if the 11.19 really is the best as compared to 9.01 and 7.28?
There are so many conflicting reports, I would like to know if there have been any reliable results determined by someone who really knows how to compare them.
Thanks.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
Grrr
I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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There are so many conflicting reports because there is no hard and fast answer to a question such as the one you posted. The same baseband version is going to give dramatically different performance on to pieces of identical hardware due to external variables. When it comes to radio performance, relying on the anecdotes of others wouldn't be the smartest thing to do and a waste of time.
Try each version for yourself and see what works best in your particular circumstance.
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Although you are obviously correct, it really shouldn't be that way. We are all using the same radio hardware. If certain radio firmware causes my radio to connect better to one verizon tower and worse to another verizon tower, that indicates a problem with verizon somewhere. A properly built radio+firmware should connect as good as possible to any tower.
It seems that generally people have better GPS connection with the newer firmwares... but GPS does not connect to verizon towers.
Perhaps some of the verizon towers need updated firmware.
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I too am itching to get an updated radio. I am usually somewhere between -85 and -92. BUT, the 11.19 stories lead more to the negative, so that is out; and the 9.02 ... well, its been out for 4 months, and no actual update.
As much as it pains me, I think we need to just sit and wait until an Incredible radio is released instead of these Evo ones.
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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11.19 is perfect for mine
I live in Texas tho so there's my geo
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Same here.
Also, as a test for 7.xx and 11.19:
My mom and brother both have DIncs. Theirs are the SLCD and the 7.xx radio, mine is AMOLED and 11.19 radio. I open up the setting to look at signal strength, and mine (11.19) is always highest.
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Also, 11.19 tends to read the actual signal strength more efficiently that the others, i.e. it changes from 3G to 1x when in weak service, something the other 2 radios are much slower to do.
In my area 7.28 has been the best. I noticed large decreases in signal strength when using gps with 11.19.
Overall, I did not notice much difference between the three, but I know that 7.28 works and it eliminates a variable when troubleshooting.
Im in WI and 11.19 is the way to go in my area. Went from -95 db with the stock radio to -60 with 11.19. It also improved my battery life and 3G speed.
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What radio would you recommend me flashing when using CyanogenMod Rom..Anyone have any ideas or input
I would recommend you try all 3 radios and see what one works best for you. For me the latest one is the best, but i still have some problems with 3G connection. The latest also gives me 3G in areas i never got 3G before too. I compared this with my G1 seating next to my N1. My G1 would have 100% all bars in 3G where my N1 would have about 1 to 2 bars less. Over all the latest radio has been the best. Only thing is is that for some ppl the older radios work better. You just need to try out all 3 and see what one works best for you.
It might also depend on where you are. I am in Australia, the original radio was crap, it cut out 3g and drained my battery to all hell in the process. I updated to ERE27, and i have no problems at all, and no desire to move to ERE36B, in case it is not as good. 3g never cuts out, i am in an office with concrete walls and still have 4 bars. try ERE27, if that doesn't satisfy you, then by all means move to ERE36B, but it is not necessary in all cases.
I would recommend searching and perhaps reading any of the other threads titled "Radio".
i was wondering what is the radio in the sprint in the ruu???
i want to try it out since it was released by sprint. i find the others have a big battery drain compared to the stock rom...
i don't want to ruu my phone so i was wondering if someone has the zip file for it????
i'm in a area where i get service no where so thats where my battery life goes to most of the time.
http://geekfor.me/category/radio/
Each radio works differently in different areas. The newest one seems to be the best (that's the one that I'm using). You just have to try them and find which works best for you.
Not sure of the latest...buy fyi, all radios that have been posted (except one from the Desire) came from Sprint. Best to try each one till you get the bast signal.
apr 4th or 11th???
i completely understand that each person will have different experiences with different radios but i found the stock to be the best.
i know there was a verizon one but it was older then the one before that release i don't remember the numbers???
i keep trying different radio but they are all the same to me in terms of single strength... (all still much better then my pre)
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apr 4th or 11th???
i completely understand that each person will have different experiences with different radios but i found the stock to be the best.
i know there was a verizon one but it was older then the one before that release i don't remember the numbers???
i keep trying different radio but they are all the same to me in terms of single strength... (all still much better then my pre)
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Huh... after checking my baseband, I guess I'm using the April 4th 2.42.00.03.10 version. I'm not sure which one is the one that Flipz claims is better than the others, but 2.42.00.03.10 is working great for me. I noticed a massive battery length increase after installing.
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
dondadah88 said:
i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
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Just decide for yourself what kind of experience you are expecting and let the placebo effect take care of the rest.
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i'm installing a rom right now so i can't try it. how well is the overall coverage in your area????
i'm going to flash to it but i just want to know what to expect...
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I live about a block from a Sprint tower... So, don't take my word for it. I get full bars everywhere I go, except in my basement - and even then, I get pretty good service. I haven't tested many other places.
But, as Sawawa said, you just have to test it yourself. This radio was my third before I decided I liked what I had.
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I live about a block from a Sprint tower...
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well im jealous.
one other thing, why not just say where you are and see if anybody lives in the same general area? might get lucky and narrow it down as to what radio to use.
i am as well. lol.
i flashed to this radio and the signal is better. i'm using right now a rom that has 4 bars(ice) and i don't have any bars. but with this a bar and sometimes 2 pops up.
i have to check the battery life in the morning to see whats up. that's usually the problem with the new radio compared to the rest. the battery life is bad compared to the stock...
Ive noticed how a lot of people are trying to get the pri 1.40.....i have it and it seems worse than the previous pri (1.34).I am in Chicago so maybe someone can tell me whats the big deal about this pri.
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Ive noticed how a lot of people are trying to get the pri 1.40.....i have it and it seems worse than the previous pri (1.34).I am in Chicago so maybe someone can tell me whats the big deal about this pri.
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i would like to also know what the big thing about it is
i'm in seattle area which cannot get the update at the moment
or at least from what i know i can't
how can we check what pri we have?
it is supposed to control how our phones connect to different towers based on where we are. some say it gives them better 3g speeds, some say it does nothing.
you can check your pri by going into settings->about phone->software version.
menu-settings-about phone-software information..... i believe
I just bought mine and it has 1.40 but it also has 2.2 built in so no root.
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Thanks I thought that was how to check it but I couldnt find it. I am on CM6 though so some things are just diffrent.
It doesn't do anything. Placebo effect.
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It doesn't do anything. Placebo effect.
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I tend to agree, but obviously it does something since they pushed out the update from 1.34 to 1.40 pri.
it depends on the area. some areas ... literally changes very little to nothing. some areas see increased 3g speeds.
I dont agree it is a placebo effect for everyone but i would guess a majority of the areas benefit little besides having the knowledge your phone is truely up to date. For those areas that it does benefit you could see 2x+ speeds from 3g
I'm running into a problem with my phone, and just want a little extra knowledge before I start busting Sprints balls.
What is your average 3G speed using the "Speedtest.net Speed Test" app? Please post in Kilo(bits).
228 ping
428 kbps (Download)
387 kbps (Upload)
You seem overly worried about this. I would of kept your questions in the original thread. They are ordering you a new phone. Keep your original thread updated with your experiences.
Everyone's 3G speed is going to be different based on location and signal strength / radio version.
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Everyone's 3G speed is going to be different based on location and signal strength / radio version.
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But everyone's speed can be averaged out, and if I'm below the average, living in Philadelphia, there's def something wrong. I just want to prove to myself I'm not crazy.
I wish it was that easy, but it isn't. Electronics like a radio don't "fizzle" out. They work and then they don't. You want anecdotal evidence to prove to Sprint you have a defective phone when you don't have a defective phone. You just have bad luck.
Do some searching on how cell phone towers choose which phones go on which tower and how network speeds work before going out on a limb. I think it's a rather simple explanation really why your speeds stink: bad reception. Especially in an urban sprawl city.
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I wish it was that easy, but it isn't. Electronics like a radio don't "fizzle" out. They work and then they don't. You want anecdotal evidence to prove to Sprint you have a defective phone when you don't have a defective phone. You just have bad luck.
Do some searching on how cell phone towers choose which phones go on which tower and how network speeds work before going out on a limb. I think it's a rather simple explanation really why your speeds stink: bad reception. Especially in an urban sprawl city.
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Seriously, can you go back to your original 4 posts and let me try to collect what I want? You're seriously wasting precious mySQL table real estate here. Is it really that hard to ask for someone to post speeds, whether it means something or not.
Quit being argumentative.
mintee said:
Seriously, can you go back to your original 4 posts and let me try to collect what I want? You're seriously wasting precious mySQL table real estate here. Is it really that hard to ask for someone to post speeds, whether it means something or not.
Quit being argumentative.
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Stop fighting guys....
OK, so in my area of work, LTE speeds have been way down for the last couple weeks or so. I'm talking around 500k/s download speeds, and that is on a good day. Around home I get 20mb/s which I feel is good for the area, and around 30-35mb/s at my girlfriends house
I'm still on MF9 baseband and firmware. Would going thru the steps to update to MJA have any affect on my data speeds? I've already kinda deducted that it's the area I'm at that is the cause of the slow network speeds, even though its not out in the boondocks, (northside Indianapolis, IN).
So yeah, pretty much just curious about any data speed improvements from updating to MJA baseband/modem/firmware yadda yadda.
If you flash the MJA modem you will lose sound, unless you're talking about the OTA?
Well I was considering flashing the MJA modem via Odin. I saw the post about how to flash just the modem in another thread, but I don't recall seeing anything about losing sound. Time to start researching whats going on with that.
Have people had that issue when doing upgrading to full MJA (rom/firmware) then going back to a 4.3 aosp rom? Seems like im gonna have fun borking my device tonight!
Thanks!
Your phone is obviously LTE capable. Your actual network speeds are a function of Sprint and flashing an updated modem isn't going to make Sprint any faster, just as switching to a different brand of gas isn't going to give you any more horsepower.
That's not true. I'm not saying it will change it in his case.... and while it wont change what sprint is putting out itself, different modems often affect data speed. And it's often different for every phone and area.
In the year and a half I owed a e4gt, there must have been more than a dozen modem releases. Everyone had their favorites. I had fav one for GB, one for ICS, and another for JB that gave significantly improved speeds and service over the other options.
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That's not true. I'm not saying it will change it in his case.... and while it wont change what sprint is putting out itself, different modems often affect data speed. And it's often different for every phone and area.
In the year and a half I owed a e4gt, there must have been more than a dozen modem releases. Everyone had their favorites. I had fav one for GB, one for ICS, and another for JB that gave significantly improved speeds and service over the other options.
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I had the e4gt myself and I have never noticed a significant difference with any modem that was not attributable to the quality of my connection to sprint. I found that most claims of better performance with a different modem turned out to be more of an anomaly or wishful thinking, at least for me. Likewise with my s3 and s4. I maintain that an updated modem is not going to give you significant improvement by itself, unless the previous version was particularly bad. I have never seen one that was.
You are in the minority in your opinion.
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I had the e4gt myself and I have never noticed a significant difference with any modem that was not attributable to the quality of my connection to sprint. I found that most claims of better performance with a different modem turned out to be more of an anomaly or wishful thinking, at least for me. Likewise with my s3 and s4. I maintain that an updated modem is not going to give you significant improvement by itself, unless the previous version was particularly bad. I have never seen one that was.
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to the OP:
I like to listen to a radio station while i shower in the morning before work. In this part of my house only certain modems on the e4gt would get wifi coverage. There are bars that i would like to eat at where only certain modems would get data access to. I would keep a bunch of flashable modems on my sdcard for when ever I got stuck.
The radio in the S4 seems to be very much better than the e4gt. They may not be able to improve it much with new modem upgrades. I know i will test them out myself though....
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You are in the minority in your opinion.
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That doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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That doesn't mean I'm wrong.
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true... but you clearly are
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true... but you clearly are
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ok buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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ok buddy, whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Lol. If I let know it alls cause me to lose sleep, I wouldn't sleep a wink ; )
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I myself have seen an increase in speeds, not sure why but, I went from 8Mb to 18Mb since MJA.